What were you doing before we left the
house? I
>> I was listening to Nickelback on 2x
speed.
>> You were listening to Nickelback on two
times speed?
>> Yeah.
>> We just let that sit for a second.
>> Mhm.
>> And you've been listening to Phil
Collins on 1.5 times speed?
>> Yeah. Sometimes 1.6.
>> Do you want to explain yourself?
>> Well, I I went through a phase that I'm
still in. um that I think YouTube is
better to listen to music on than
Spotify or Apple Music because you can
get live tracks way more like it's
underrated
live tracks on YouTube just hearing the
crowd. Um and I've also stopped
listening to hip-hop as much.
>> Okay.
>> Cuz I don't know about you, I started
becoming a bad person when I'd listen to
hip-hop too much.
>> Did you not get did you never get the
one? Well, if you just listen to people
committing crimes in your head all day
long, you do become you do become a bit
of a terrible person. So, um well, this
was what we found. Where were you
working? Was it when you were at Social
Chain and we were talking about uh
serotonin George, serotonin Chris
listening to Anduna Deepep and then it
was Cortisol George and Cortisol Chris
listening to Kanye West. That was
pre-ancellation as well.
>> Yeah. I mean, even even Kanye wouldn't
be full Cortisol. It would be like it'd
be like DMX.
>> Okay. or like very angry two pack.
>> Okay. Vinnie Paz is great. Jedi mind
tricks.
>> You've explained you've explained to me
why
you think that YouTube is a good
platform. You haven't necessarily
explained to me why you've been
listening to
>> taking a just taking a little interlude.
>> Phil Collins at 1.6 time.
>> So when I go to um the gym,
I put tunes on on YouTube, usually live
tracks. Um but then I was listening to
Nickelback Rockstar, which is a
completely underrated song. And I was,
but if you listen to that at 1x speed,
it's quite hard to work out to. But if
you go and listen to
if you go and if you listen to hip-hop,
it's um it's too
>> you want to go and commit a crime.
>> But Nickelback at 1.8x speed rockstar
customizer. He changed the beats per
minute and great workout. But this is
actually really sad. This is really sad.
part which was on if you look look look
at Nickelback Rockstar and you go in the
comments it's like um it's this boy
talking about how his dad used to listen
to Nickelback Rockstar and he's now just
about to have surgery and he's unsure if
he's going to wake up and he's listening
to Nickelback Rockstar so I'm there like
listen to it at 1x speed reading the
comment section I'm in the comments
incredibly sad I don't little speed
you're speed listening to Nickelback
reading sad comments okay well have you
seen the there's a conspiracy theory
that Nickelback's downfall in the mid
2000 thousands was to try and demoralize
America after 9/11.
>> No. Why? Why demoralize America?
>> That Nickelback was kind of on this
surgeent. It was sort of American
spirit. It was the equivalent for them
in the new world after this horrible
catastrophe that had occurred. And uh
it's this huge long documentary like I
don't know 40 minute 50-minute breakdown
of exactly why Nickelback was sort of
taken down from the inside. M but N I
think Nickelback are one of the most
underrated bands of all time because
people thought they were one of the most
overrated bands of all time. They're now
one of the most underrated bands of all
time until they then become the most
overrated because it's swung back again.
Yeah. Well, this is like Creed, right?
Creed Creed got to come back around.
>> Well, there's talk that um uh there's
like this great videos breaking down why
do people hate Nickelback and one of the
theories is that they try a little bit
too hard as well. Whereas some of these
edgier bands during the era, which
ironically everybody's forgot, and there
was this interview with the lead singer
of Nickelback, and he's talking about
how he would study songs, like figure
out why songs work with the music.
>> Yeah.
>> And because he was trying so hard, well,
there's something about being nonchulant
that's cool. There's always going to be
something cool about being nonchulant,
especially if you're British. But it's
not a very American
>> uh like personality trait
>> to enjoy nonulence in the same way as a
Brit does because the Brit, everybody
enjoys nonulence, but the Brit enjoys
non nonchulence. I nearly said
nonsulence.
>> It's just something very different.
>> The Brit enjoys nonulence in a different
way, which is that it protects us from
having to be called a kino.
>> Like you don't want to be called too
keen about anything. M
>> and you inherently don't like anybody
that does seem too keen or excitable.
>> Yeah. When you took me to that uh gym
opening the other evening, I was talking
to um a lady there and she was implying
she was an introvert and yet she was
like one of the most extroverted people
like American I don't think American
introverts truly exist compar
comparatively to a Britain scale. Yeah.
If you here's a question, right? If you
had introversion, extroversion and
you're massively grouping countries
together, what do you think is the most
extroverted country and most introverted
country? If you're grouping the
populacees,
>> you're probably not far off with America
and the UK.
>> You're probably not far off.
>> Yeah. Who's more Who's more introverted
than us?
>> Japanese.
>> Japanese probably cut themselves off 60
years.
Hardcore hardcore introversion.
>> They did a national a national
introversion push them. I mean, who's
more extra? I guess it's probably some
South American places, you know, like
some Latino
>> extroverted, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like Brazil.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh
but you know, we really have gone from
one end of the Overton window to the
other when it comes to extrovert. But
you're right. Like an American
extrovert, an American introvert is a
British extrovert. M an American
extrovert is a British extrovert, an
afterparty at 4:00 a.m. on every single
substance that's ever existed trying to
talk about how he's going to fix the
interest rates of the Bank of England.
>> Yeah, we need to talk about your
sneezing. I'm sorry.
>> Okay,
let's go for it.
>> Do you think that there might be an
issue?
>> Like a medical issue?
>> No, I you sneezed 15 times.
>> I did.
>> Yeah, I did.
>> And they were over a minute apart. I
didn't realize you heard me. I was
upstairs thinking
>> you shook the house.
>> Yeah.
>> You shook the house with them. It was
thunderous.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, it was a bit of a doom loop.
Um because I would sneeze, blow my nose,
and then whatever something was going up
my nose when I was blowing the nose, and
it would then create this economic doom
loop like Gary Stevenson's uh in charge
of the economy. It was um it was rough.
Yeah, it was rough.
>> I don't think I've ever sneezed that
much in my entire life. I think that's I
think and also I think this is you
struggling with not having a girlfriend
in the house.
>> Yeah, that's a nightmare. Yeah, I do.
We've discussed this before that uh
guys over a certain age between the
hours of 5 to 900 p.m. Like if the hours
of 5 to 5 to 9:00 p.m. was 24 hours, I
think the economy would go down by about
30%. Like we're just useless. Like
nothing's happening. Um, it's scrolling,
it's checking stuff, it's relaxing but
stressing that you should be working or
working whilst thinking that you should
be relaxing. This is a real
domesticating influence of having a
partner.
>> Yeah.
>> This is why you need one.
>> Yeah. Just purely for the nervous
system.
>> It's for It's so that you don't like
regress back to the mean of just doing
[ __ ] that you really wish that you
weren't. How do you think you've wasted?
What's the biggest um like evening waste
that you've had when you've been single
or not been with your girlfriend?
>> [ __ ]
It's got to be fun. It's got to be fun.
>> Yeah, but where like what's Yeah. So,
zoom in. Open your iPhone. What?
Instagram.
>> Instagram typically.
>> And what what sort of stuff on
Instagram?
>> Instagram or YouTube? But it's not
YouTube on TV is really when I watch
stuff on my TV, it's always very
conscious cuz I it's such a [ __ ] on to
try and change from one video to
another. I'm I'm much more uh uh
scrutinous, way more discretion
>> around what I'm going to watch if I'm
watching on TV cuz I can't be bothered
to change what I'm watching.
>> So true. Nobody Nobody uses YouTube
shorts or Tik Tok really on TV.
>> There's an Instagram app for TV now for
smart.
>> Is anybody using it?
>> I don't know. I have to assume so. I
have to assume so. M I've seen I saw a
video of a guy who ran a 5K underneath a
table and in the background throughout
the entire video took about 30 minutes
he just like spun round under a table
like this for 30 minutes and in the
background was someone was watching on a
TV was watching Tik Tok swiping through
Tik Tok.
>> What do you mean somebody's running
underneath the table? I'm so confused.
What do you mean?
>> I mean he did it is Straa said that he
did it.
>> Uh but in the background it's Tik Tok on
a TV. The people have got to be doing
it. People have to be
>> Jesus.
>> Christ.
>> Wow. Wow.
>> But you're not a vertical video
consumer.
>> No, no, no, no, no, no.
>> I'm so confused.
>> Me running a 5K under my therapist's
table. Can't imagine that's his
therapist. Anyway,
>> there you go. That's what you should be
doing. That's actually that's that's the
greatest advert. That's the greatest
advert for having a girlfriend that I've
ever seen. That's after 7 p.m.
>> Yeah. Wow. Well, if the CCP could see
see this, they'd be delighted.
>> If they knew what was going on, you see
the uh the guy who accidentally hacked
7,000 DJI Roombas.
This dude was trying to control his
Roomba with his PlayStation controller.
Hey,
>> and
ended up using Claude. Here it is.
>> So, in theory, you could have used
someone else's vacuum and navigated it
around their home to see whatever you
wanted to see. are launching a deep
cleaning at 420 for everyone. Yes.
>> Software developer Sammy Ezu was
building an app to hack his DJI Romo
smart vacuum. He wanted to use his
PlayStation controller to make it move.
But in the process, he accidentally
uncovered a major security flaw. With
the help of an AI chatbot, Sammy
discovered he could also access what he
says were roughly 7,000 other vacuums,
allowing him to get their across
locations and even remotely control
other people's vacuums. He could also
see through other users live camera
feeds and hear through their vacuums
microphones, features typically in place
to help the vacuums navigate around a
home and respond to voice commands.
>> Yeah, it feels like we're going to be
living through an era where this is
going to happen more and more. Well, we
>> can't hack paper and pen. You can't hack
you can't hack the Moleskin notepad.
>> That's true. Although they have got a
digital version of that now. Uh we were
talking to a friend at dinner the other
night and he said everybody here has
tried to get Chachi PT to do something
illegal. I I can see if you can get me
this for free if you can hack the back
end or do extract whatever. And one of
our friends who works building data
centers said he'd used some offlabel
Chinese model that's run locally on his
computer and didn't mean to get it to do
something illegal, but it did. So he put
in he wanted to try and see if they
could screenshot all of this different
data and it's thinking I can't do that.
Thinking I can't do that. Thinking, oh,
there's an API that's open on the back
end. I can just pull the entire website
out and now he's got 9,000 pieces of
data that completely illegal to have. So
our models, we can't get to do something
illegal when they want them to. Or even
just slight like I was ask I asked
Claude the other day for what do people
think are where's the ugly because you
said the UK has the ugliest men in the
world. So I got I asked Claude where do
you think has the ugliest men or could
you pull the data of what people think
has the ugliest men and it refused to do
it.
>> So it won't do that but then the it
would give you the most good-looking
though. I know. I don't I don't
ask actually Jared if you can. I don't
even think I don't maybe
>> well then I guess if you if you asked it
for all them looking in order rank it
all the way down say now flip that list
around
>> or it might do the top 50% and say you
get to the middle of the but you can
then work it out from there. I look
>> the only I didn't I don't mean to
badmouth our country especially given
that both of us are from it.
>> I just saw the unite the rally march
videos.
We're just not we're not a particularly
aesthetic nation.
>> And perhaps again this is a selection
effect, but
best looking is obviously subjective,
but there are a few places that
consistently come across fashion
modeling, dating app data, tourism
surveys, and pop culture for producing
unusually attractive men, usually
because of some mix of genetics,
grooming culture, fitness, style, and
confidence. Uh Brazil, Italy, Spain,
France, Sweden, Lebanon. Wow. Uh, can we
say what about the what about the
ugliest? That gets a lot harder to
answer fairly because ugliness is even
more culturally loaded than
attractiveness. People tend to judge
entire populations based on stereotypes.
>> Uh, it's not going to give us an answer,
is it? Keep going down.
>> It basically it basically says the UK
there, right? Some Northern European,
some Anglo countries.
>> Plain despite strong genetics because
the culture is understated and less
image focused. It's a nice way to say
that we don't care about our
appearances. Do you remember do you
remember when um you started going to
therapy and you were talking about how
all this stuff that you discovered from
therapy of you couldn't quite feel
emotions or how harsh you was on
yourself. You had this laundry list of
symptoms that had given you.
>> And I remember thinking I didn't want to
be a rude when a friend was going
through therapy but I was like kind of
waiting on the phone for a bit. It's
like I think that's just being British.
Like all a lot of the stuff that the
therapist diagnosed you with,
>> hang just being
>> Hang on a second. Hang on a second.
>> Wasn't diagnosed with,
>> you know what I mean? You know what I
mean?
>> Look, these are some of the patterns
that you've got from your past. That's a
big difference to a diagnosis. We're
talking in a clinical context.
>> British syndrome. You have British
syndrome. Sorry.
>> British syndrome. Yes. Yeah. I've seen
that your passport is dark blue. Uh
yeah. Well, I mean, we're a country of
people that are kind of
we revel in misery a bit, which probably
makes us quite resilient. Probably why
we did well in the B battle of Britain.
It's probably why we don't have the same
victimhood culture that somewhere like
America might do.
>> It's also the same reason that we hate
ourselves quite a lot.
>> And no one was the last time you heard
anybody say that they were proud of the
UK?
>> Me. When was the last time you heard
someone that wasn't you say that they
were proud of the UK?
>> The st the strange thing is is the more
that I travel. It I always describe the
UK as like having a autoimmune condition
that it attacks itself from within. But
the UK, if you travel outside of the UK,
most countries that you travel to, the
people will talk about how much that
they love the UK. So, it's weird that
the the people that hate the UK the most
are often inside the UK and everybody
outside
>> quite like it.
>> Well, we've discussed this before, but
you go, "Oh, okay. JK Rowling, Harry
Potter,
>> Paul McCartney, John Lennon, William
Shakespeare, Charles Darwin. Should we
just do the entire episode just like the
guy?"
>> And guess what? You could
>> Harry M freestyle rap. Yeah. But no one
no one would.
>> Where do you end up with like wretch 32?
>> Yeah, exactly. You're really scraping
the bottom of the barrel once you get
beyond the year 2000. Like after the
Spice Girls, everything really went
downhill.
>> Adele.
>> Okay.
>> Uh Ed Sheeran.
>> Mhm.
>> Um
>> Olivia.
>> Olivia Dean.
>> Oh, Christopher Nolan. Ridley Scott.
Don't get me wrong, just we're starting
to run a little thin on worldwide
>> quantum computing.
>> Yeah. You always
>> You didn't think we could go from Olivia
Dean to quantum computing. True.
>> But we can Dennis whatever his face is
from Google. He's not British though, is
he?
>> Dennis is British, is he?
>> Dennis. Yeah. Um, yeah, he's born in the
UK.
>> Oh, okay. That's interesting.
>> Yes. Or at least he at least grew up in
the UK. He's famously stayed in the UK.
>> Wouldn't that be a wonderful way to get
our own back on a world that's forgotten
us to unleash a super intelligent AGI
that nobody can control. That would be a
wonderful footnote. The Empire's back
briefly before it gets subsumed by this
monster it made itself.
>> And it only uh allows people to spell
with S's. Yes, I find that so offensive
when I'm writing and uh Grammarly will
try and auto correct me for even even
chatbt or even the autocorrector will
try and correct me to the
>> you got it on American English that's
why
>> yeah but I then make a decision of do I
want most of the people that read this
who speak American English to understand
it or do I just really in the ground
>> you got to you got to hold on to it dude
it's the same reason we both got plus 44
phone numbers
>> this country can take my taxes but it's
not going to take my plus 44.
>> It's not going to take my [ __ ] area
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I learned about savant syndrome.
>> Okay. You heard of this?
>> No.
>> Okay. So, there was a guy who shot
himself so badly.
>> Okay. Great start.
>> That he gave himself the art arteries in
his brain exploded and then when he woke
up he was an artistic genius who wanted
to paint for 19 hours a day.
>> This can't be real.
>> It's true. Tommy McHugh was a British
artist and poet in his early life.
Mchugh was a builder and also involved
in youth crimes. When he was 51, he
suffered a stroke on both sides of his
brain that resulted in two burst blood
vessels. He was sent into a coma for a
week and that acquired savant syndrome.
Mchugh attempted to evacuate his bowels
quickly due to a knock on a toilet door.
So he didn't want someone to find him
[ __ ] Then the sudden pressure led
to an artery being severed in his
frontal and temporal loes causing him to
hemorrhage. So what happened was he like
squeezed And then he heard this big
explosion inside of his head and sort of
half collapsed to the ground. Apparently
the reason that he said that he kept
himself conscious was that he wanted to
pull his pants up so no one would find
him naked on the floor of the toilet.
And as he was pulling his pants up,
that's when the other one went. So it
was like the two it was like the the
first tower and the second tower.
>> Jesus.
>> Uh by the way, British.
>> British indeed. Uh while uh relearning
after he strugg
rhyming, so he's speaking in rhymes.
uh he began to write poetry to express
everything he was experiencing. He also
experienced an identity crisis which was
the most likely motivation for his
artistic outputs. He was painting three
to six to nine different paintings at
any one time all at the same time.
Speaking in poetry, he basically became
like a Buddhist monk. Was terrified of
hurting anything. He saw the entire
cosmos as beautiful. He's like sweeping
away bugs that he might step on on a
This is a guy that was in youth crimes.
Damn. shot himself so badly that he
acquired savant syndrome. Wow.
Wow.
>> I mean, I don't know what to say.
>> Unbelievable.
>> You know,
>> unbelievable.
>> My um my grandfather um who I greatly
love didn't didn't shirt himself, but he
>> famously Tommy M
>> he had he had a stroke and beforehand he
was quite some people would maybe call
it tight. He was quite conservative with
money. And then after the stroke, he
would just be watching the shopping
channel
>> and just be going like shopping left,
right, and center, all all sorts of
stuff. He actually, unfortunately, the
stroke was so bad that he couldn't pay.
So, we managed to stop like him being
able to put the payments through, but
otherwise he would have just spent
everything.
Um
but but
uh keeping things on the British topic,
the the Gallagher brothers, Liam Null.
>> Uh they've fallen out again.
>> No, Null was always the musician cuz
they grew up in is it B is it B?
Burbridge I can't I can't pronounce it.
It's in um in Manchester.
>> They grew up together very like council
estate part of uh England. And null was
super into music, which is very strange,
like being where he's from. And Liam was
like just found the whole thing like
quite sad and lame
>> and was like, "Why would you get into
music?" And Liam gets in a fight at
school, gets a hammer hit on his head,
wakes up the next day,
>> he's into music,
>> wants to make music. Yeah,
>> you're kidding.
>> Joins a band the next day.
>> So he got like savant syndrome from a
mallet. Yes,
>> basically. But you got musician
syndrome. Champagne Supernova.
What would you want to acquire if I hit
you in the head with a mallet?
>> That's a That's a great question.
>> Less sneezing, I imagine.
>> That would be useful.
>> That would be good for me. I'm just
going to hit you in the head with stuff
until I can try and accumulate that.
>> What would you do? What would you do?
>> I'd want to be I'd want to be able to be
a bit more frivolous with money. I think
that'd be nice.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Just I mean,
>> what was the last frivolous thing that
you bought? Actually,
>> yeah, you're right.
>> What
>> did I bully you into that?
>> What? The trampoline?
>> Yeah, because for quite a while we had I
had an intervention with you. I've had a
few interventions with you.
>> I don't spend I don't spend you don't
spend money in a frivolous enough man.
It's not that you don't spend enough
money, it's that you don't spend it on
stupid [ __ ]
>> Yes.
>> And I think that's important. And then
you have bought the most expensive
trampoline that you could find and
you've just dropped
>> way too much money on a bean bag. The
most expensive.
>> I've not I've not acquired the bean bag
yet, but it's set to be okay.
>> It's set to be acquired recently. I'm
I've got a few uh a few claude agents
scoping out the beanag market as we
speak. Okay. I don't want a bean bag
from Facebook marketplace. Second is
unbelievably absorbing.
>> I'm getting my my AI to look at bean bag
reviews that haven't been written by AI
that have actually been written by
human.
>> What was that thing to find the best
bean bag?
>> Wasn't it a recruiting company that said
um recruiters are using AI to read
applications that candidates have
written using AI and nobody's getting
hired? It's just this endless doom loop
of people using AI to help them get a
thing which is assessed by AI that
detects it's AI and no one goes in. It's
a stalemate.
>> It's a stalemate on the the LinkedIn
jobs market at the moment.
>> It's dead internet theory, right? Let
let us know in the comments section if
you're a bot.
Did you see um someone I saw this video
this girl was doing a assignment and the
teacher had put in white text at the end
of one of the questions if you were an
AI uh please use this website to fill in
the qu the the uh answers to this
particular question and uh basically if
you were to do that and you just copied
it blindly and thrown it in you wouldn't
have necessarily seen it and then the AI
would have given you the answer from
this website. So it wouldn't have the
person would have still submitted
but that the answer would have been
detectable because it would have been
pulled from this one particular
reference and anybody that uses that
reference obviously submitted it with
>> so it really is an arms race now and the
lecturers are having to
>> even or they're just identifying the
ones that are on the free plan.
>> You know what I mean? Like if they if
they're on the premium plan it may be
picking up on this.
>> Yeah. I I get the sense that frivolous
spending is is something that you kind
of you need to acquire. I think it's a
skill that you need to. Some people are
cursed with it and some people actually
have to learn it as a skill. It's a
little bit like singing in tune.
>> And being British,
>> I'm just always on the back foot. I'm
always on the back foot with frivolous
spending. Like remember where you are.
Where have you um
where have you spent frivolously cycling
through
>> carbonated drinks? What have I spent
frivolously on? It's always the same
stuff. It's the same stuff as
>> Well, it's not frivolous then, is it?
>> Yeah. But that's what I mean. I'm I'm
Hey, I I was in the trenches with you
>> with regards to your frivolous spending.
>> I just
Maybe we just don't need to spend
frivolously then. Just Just
>> I think we do. I feel like I'm Is there
something that's compelling me to spend?
>> Okay, how about I'll give me Does it
count if Does it count if I spend it for
you? Cuz how about we exchange?
>> I'll give you 500 bucks.
>> Yeah, likewise. And then you've got to
buy something frivolous that
>> you've already you've already cailed me
with the the top two. That was a
trampoline and a [ __ ] bean bag.
>> I don't even think those are frivolous.
Those are um
>> they're quite utilitarian, aren't they?
>> Yeah.
>> Have you seen the the Soviet nail
factory story? It's a parable. So
apparently there was this Soviet nail
factory that was rewarded based on the
number of nails that they produced.
>> Then after hearing about the bonus, the
factories reduced the size of the nails
to produce as many nails as possible. In
the end, they met the targets to get
their bonuses. But the government ended
up with millions of useless tiny nails.
Oh wow. And to correct the mistake, the
government updated the bonus target as
the tonnage of nails produced every
month. So Soviet factories quickly
changed and they stop stopped producing
the mini nails and started producing
huge ones that were unbelievably heavy.
End of the month, the factories hit the
target again, but the regime ended up
with useless giant nails that didn't
help with the nail shortage.
>> Wow.
>> Look at that. Look at that.
Who needs such a nail? It doesn't
matter. What's important is that we
fulfilled the plan for nails. God's law.
>> Wow. Yeah. The Soviets uh
Soviets is just an underrated part of
history. It feels like the Nazis get so
much attention, but the USSR or even
communist China, like Ma China, is just
it's just an afterthought.
Have you spent much time learning about
those?
>> Um, no. Because I'm mainly focused on
World War II like everybody else. Not as
efficiently as I'd like to, but um it
feels that it's clear if I say, "Hey
mate, I'm going to bring a Nazi
>> to the drinks." It's it's a big no no.
Yeah, a mauist.
>> But like they're a bit more
>> net net like in terms of people killed.
>> They were more efficient. So maybe you
should bring them. Have you have you
heard about the guy who um wanted to
go to Cambodia to meet Paul Pot? So he
was this academic that was a big
defender I think of the Vietkong and
then Paul Pot in Cambodia and so much so
he flew out to meet Paul Pot like tried
to give him a little bit of advice as
like he's a big admirer of like how he
could potentially improve things. Killed
him. killed him. Like he's the original
Midway. I don't know if you could look
that up, um Jared, of the guy that got
killed, the American academic that got
killed by Paul Pot. It's like all of
those people that go to North Sentinel
Island, all of these people that try to
go and convert the North Sentinel into
Christianity or whatever and they end up
being skewered and eaten for dinner.
>> Do you do you think if you was in the
North Sentinel there, if you was in the
North Sentinel Island, would you want to
be contacted? Yes.
>> Okay, go on.
>> Would you want to have been contacted?
Do you know I find it's a bit like
asking what it would be like to be a
dragon, isn't it? Are you just the man
the man dress?
>> I'm not far off actually. Uh I just I
don't know what I would want. Do you
know what you would want if you were
someone that's totally different to you?
>> No, of course. But of course, but I feel
like I'd want to be contacted.
>> I think I would as well, but that's the
adventurous spirit.
>> I guess the example now would be like
ali if aliens exist
>> Mhm.
>> I would like to know that they exist.
Well, there's there's a problem with the
aliens thing because there's Meti and
there's SETI
>> searching for extraterrestrial
intelligence and there's Meti which is
messaging
>> and a lot of people have got a problem
with Meti because let's say you've got
um whatever it's called dark forest
theory for uh why the Fermy paradox
exists that everyone is too worried of
giving away the location in case
somebody decides to go to war with them.
Uh, but the radio signals that we've
been sending out, we've been going for
what, 100 years? A little bit more than
100 years or something. I'm pretty sure,
can you search, Jared? What was the
first radio signal ever sent into space?
I'm pretty sure it was something that we
really don't want out there. Like the
first ever radio broadcast that
happened, I'm pretty sure was something
that we that if that's the first thing
that the aliens see of us.
>> Why? What was it? I can't I feel like I
feel like it was something to do with
the Berlin Olympics.
>> Really? I really think it was something
to do with the Berlin. I can't remember.
Better be a banger.
>> If it wasn't a banger, you'd be
thinking, "What will the aliens think?"
The first accidental radio broadcast
that escaped Earth will likely the
high-powered radio transmissions.
>> Uh commonly cited milestone is a
transatlantic radio transmission. The
famous one is Regginald Fessendon's
Christmas Eve broadcast. That's not bad.
voice and music over radio for ships at
sea. That signal would have leaked into
space unintentionally.
Uh
yeah, well that's okay. That's not bad.
I uh those signals have now traveled
more than 100 light years away from
Earth.
>> Wow.
How far how far is 100 light years away?
>> Uh Proxima Centuri is four, I think.
>> I feel like I'm going to have to ask you
another question. What's that? Proxima
Centuri is the the next closest star
that isn't our sun. It's the next
closest star system to us. And I think
Proxima Centuri is a I think it's a two
star system. It's also where we are the
Goldilock zone as well, right? We're the
perfect if you were to be slightly
further away from the sun,
life couldn't exist. If you to be
slightly nearer to the sun,
>> life couldn't exist. Well, the only
reason that Yes. And the finetuningness
not only of the universe, but the
finetuning of our planet in this system
with the fact that we've got Jupiter
that's this big hoover. It's basically a
Roomba that's controlled with a [ __ ]
PlayStation. Uh that hoovers up all of
the bad asteroids that would come and
hit us, all of the meteors that would
come and hit us. It's just got such a
big gravitational well. Uh I think you
can fit
it's it's unbelievably massive. And then
the the maddest one for me is the moon.
So the only reason that life exists on
Earth is because of the moon. If you
didn't have the moon, it would it
stabilizes the axial tilt. So we're at
whatever it is 23°. That's why we have
seasons because as you go around the
sun, you've always got this sort of 23°
angle. But if you didn't have the moon
there, it's kind of like a counterwe. So
imagine that I'm swinging something on a
on a a big rope and there's a weight at
the end of it. If I wasn't holding on to
it, you actually kind of run out. You
get out of control quite quickly. But if
you've got something that's holding on
the other side, this mutual
gravitational pull, it stabilizes the
tilt or else it would be wobbling a lot.
It would be way more chaotic. Also, the
moon does the tides, which without that,
the weather would be way more chaotic,
too. Like the moon's the moon's the
goat. The moon is the support staff that
nobody sees behind the scenes. Everyone
wants to talk about the Goldilock zone.
Everyone wants to talk about the fact
that we've got liquid water, etc., But
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a checkout. It feels uh it's very trit
to discuss how strange it is or why are
we here. It almost feels like if you
bring that up, people are like
>> roll their eyes. It's like it's the most
absurd uh most absurd [ __ ] thing.
Well, I think the only way that you can
answer why are we here is by trying to
look for an answer outside of this.
That's what most people are doing
because you can either say there's no
reason or there's a reason that's bigger
than us.
>> Neither of those are particularly
satisfactory. So, if you're looking for
a reason that's outside of us,
inherently that means it's difficult to
prove. And if you're saying, well, it's
nothing. It's just arbitrary
fluctuations in, you know, [ __ ]
matter coming together. That's also
pretty unsatisfactory. So, I don't know
what I mean,
humans were always personifying [ __ ]
right? We're always trying to put some
sort of a narrative together. That's why
the ancients would look up at the sky
and they'd see thunder and it would be
the gods fighting. Well, obviously, that
makes way more sense than this
microscopic interaction of clouds and
electrons and [ __ ] you know, the
lightning coming down to the earth. Why
would you you wouldn't go to that? you
would go to something that suits you,
which is story and narrative and
mythology and and [ __ ] So, we're always
trying to explain things away with
story.
>> Why are we here?
>> Stop it.
Stop it. Okay. I'm sweating. I'm
sweating in this outfit. It's too hot.
It's too hot. It's not breathable. They
haven't made these things breathable.
>> You look very comfortable, actually. How
where do you think let's say you would
have been born uh 5,000 years ago,
10,000 years ago? How do you think you
what do you who do you think you would
have been? Do you think you'd be the
same guy? Do you think you'd be so
different you'd be unrecognizable to
your current self?
I think it would be difficult to be
anything like the sort of guys that we
are 5,000 years ago. There wasn't much
room,
>> too much autoimmune conditions going on
as well. You'd be wiped out.
>> That Well, I also wouldn't live in a
moldy house, you know. So, and COVID and
the vaccines wouldn't have been around.
So, that would have I would have [ __ ]
escaped that. Um,
I think I'm at least a little bit
fortunate that I would have been able to
did a good bit of sport
that might have held me together. I
mean, probably probably dead in child
birth, mate.
>> That's just like everyone else. Just
like every other person except for the
small number that made it to 5 years
old. Well, I once ran the numbers that
if you had every single human being to
ever exist, so everybody alive right now
>> and everybody that ever existed.
>> Yep.
>> So, assume that they're brought back on
their final day as they go.
>> Okay.
>> I think the average age of the room is
about 14.
>> So, it means that assuming you're over
the age of 14, 15,
>> okay,
>> you're already one of the oldest people
to ever exist. I find that so strange
when you go through history and you're
like how old certain people people were.
I think we've discussed it before that
the um the as the luwaffer the German
air force were bombing our grandparents
and great-grandparents they were 27.
Right.
>> Mhm.
>> But the RAF that fought them off the
average age was 21.
Which means that and you know how
averages work. There's there's a few
Gordons in there that are 37
>> Mhm.
>> in the RAF that are bringing it up and
the the the life expectancy was 2 weeks
when you signed up initially.
>> Well, there's that sketch in Black
Adder. Do you remember where he joins
the Air Force? It's in Black Adder goes
over the top from World War I and I
think it was even less time because that
was imagine that when you you know the
Wright brothers when were planes
invented
>> uh it would have been late 1800s early
1900s is when
>> pretty much turn of the century. Okay.
And within the space of 14 years, you've
got something that's [ __ ] battle
ready,
>> bro. This thing just flew.
>> This thing just flew and nobody
believed.
>> And now you're telling me that I'm going
to the Red Baron with his triple stacked
wings like
>> I told you. So, in the book, The
Splender in the Vial, which is an
incredible book, he talks about how
lingerie sales went up significantly
during the World War II bombings.
Sorry, no, it's the wrong way around.
Laundry sales went down significantly
during World War II bombings, but uh
casual relationships went up
significantly.
Why? I guess the theory would be
don't have time to go shopping for
lingerie or don't even care how I think
how I how I think that I look when I
might not be here tomorrow.
>> People having ugly sex whilst being
bonded. That's your theory.
>> Yeah,
>> it might be true, but I What would I be
5,000 years ago? or even even in even in
World War II. Um if for example you was
trying to have the maximum impact on
World War II that you could have just
based off your personality type, your
archetype, where do you think they would
have put they would have put you?
>> I would have probably been pretty good
at, you know, one of the people pushing
the troops around on the board, helping
feed up to some some commander person at
the top. That could be good. Uh not bad
as an operate. I quite like operating. I
said before if I didn't have this career
I'd quite like to be an air traffic
controller.
>> Mhm.
>> I think that'd be pretty fun. Why? I
don't know. I just do you not think it'd
be fun to do that? Like air traffic
control. You very sort of rigid and
strict operational guidelines. It's
quite intense. It's but but you know you
you know that you've got it under
control. I think that'll be that'd be
that would be a rush. That'd be pretty
fun.
>> Consequences if you have a bad day.
>> Yeah, of course. But that adds that adds
some value. You know what I mean?
>> Uh yeah. I think 5,000 years ago,
probably dead in childbirth. If not, uh,
I would be
breeder.
Breeder. I'd be a breeder.
>> What do you mean?
>> I'd be I'd be doing the breeding.
>> Well, like just
>> breeding.
>> Okay. But why? Why would you Why would
you be the breeder versus all the other
eligible mates that are trying to breed?
>> Better at breeding.
>> Okay. Based off zero children that
you've had so far. What mean? That's
correct. That's correct. It's correct.
>> I'd be I'd be the I'd be the the the
lead breeder.
>> Okay. The leader breeder. The leader of
the breeders.
>> Correct.
>> Wow.
>> Um what about you? Interesting cuz I
thought that you'd have said that.
>> I I I think I would have been um some
kind of pseudocientist alchemist.
>> You'd have been burned at the [ __ ]
states for being a wizard.
>> Yeah, I would have been um e either
caught jester or pseudocience.
>> I could have seen you as a druid. I can
see you through it.
>> Kind of like what you're I think it's a
little bit like what you're talking
about. He's basically trying to do tech
before tech existed.
>> Yes.
>> He's like mixing herbs and stuff, but
the dyspraxia would actually cause a
massive error here. Your ability to
measure [ __ ] forgetting things. You
would definitely kill an entire tribe.
>> That would be a nightmare.
>> Yeah,
>> that would go badly. Uh, speaking of
stuff that you haven't seen before, a
cow has been filmed using tools for the
first time ever. Stunning scientists.
Tools. Tools. The first ever known
example of a multi-purpose tool used by
a cow was reported with a brown Swiss
named Veronica using both ends of a
broom to scratch her own back and
underside. Nice cow.
>> It's a slow new day. It was a slow news
day here, wasn't it?
>> Brown Swiss, mate.
>> Now she uses the smooth bit when she's
got to do her delicate under parts. Wow.
There is I was thinking about this when
I watched it the first time. And now
look at this. Look. So, she's used the
smooth bit and now she's going to
>> she's going to use the scratchy bit
to get
>> Wow.
>> to get up there. Multi-use and then
drops it. Uh, I was thinking about this.
The physiology of a cow
highly inefficient if you've got an
itch. Physiology of a dog actually. But
I think dogs are pretty bendy.
>> You know, they can scratch themselves
quite easily.
>> Cow, you're screwed. And then you've got
a hoof. How satisfying is a hoof for for
scratching? Not very. Or was the It's
the famous anecdote that you can take a
cow upstairs, but you can't take a cow
downstairs. And there's this old British
joke of which farmer found that out the
rock the hard way.
Is that true? Yeah. You can take a cow
upstairs, but because of its joints, you
can't take it downstairs. You can't take
a cow downstairs because of its joints.
>> I always think that when I see um is it
emuse? I think. And their knees go
backwards. Like our knees bend forwards.
If we were to squat down, our knees bend
forwards.
>> Their knees go the other way.
>> Oh, wow. Okay.
>> Cows can walk upstairs fairly well, but
walking downstairs is a different story.
The main issue comes down to anatomy and
perception. A cow has knee and leg
joints that don't bend easily in a way
that supports controlled downward
stepping. The weight distribution cows
carry a lot of weight toward the front
of their bodies, making descending steep
steps risky and unstable. Depth
perception. They have poor perception
for vertical drops. So stairs can look
like a confusing or even dangerous
surface. And instinct is prey animals.
They're cautious about terrain that
could trap or trip them. So, while a cow
can technically go downstairs in some
situations, especially shallow ones,
they usually avoid it and often need
guidance or special ramps instead. Wow.
You know, a cow's keeping on the cow
theme. Um, a cow's stomach is called the
rin. Yep.
>> Uh, a few different mammals have it. Um,
where they have like six to seven
different stomachs inside of it. And the
way a cow eats, you'll see it in a
field. It'll be grazing and it's just
constantly grazing all day long. And
essentially what it's doing is grazing
>> with carbonated beverageages.
>> It's like me with carbonated beverages
where it's grazing, regurgitating it,
then grazing on it again, swallowing it,
regurgitating it, and it's this loop
from the room.
>> So it goes from mouth to one.
>> Yeah.
>> From mouth tomouth to two,
>> then mouth to one to two to three. I
don't know if it goes in the uh the
sequential order, but it goes through
its stomachs, regurgitates it, and
through like that, which is why when you
see a cow in a field, it's constantly
chewing. And then,
>> but you don't realize putting new food
in, that's old food.
>> It's old food. It does it for a process
of up to 6 to 7 hours, which is where
the word rumination comes from. So, when
a human being loops on the same forts,
it's it's the process from a cow. What
do you think about the rumination [ __ ]
maxing
great men of history didn't
Yeah. introspection. What do you think
of that?
>> It seems like one giant
test of the difference between the
words. But if if you say rumination, I
think everybody agrees that rumination
for the most part is uh mainly negative.
But if you say introspection, that's
when it gets into this uh you know what
it is that introspection debate is the
current version of the you know the blue
and gold dress. It's like that where
some people imply introspection that
they're meaning the word rumination
where other people imply the word
introspection that they're using some
kind of form of clear thinking or
reflecting to take action and they're
just it's just one giant game of
semantics. M but how do you get around
that? Because it's always hard unless
someone's going to define something.
Unless somebody on one side is going to
define it and no one's defining the
terms,
>> then you always if you're going to try
and win an argument on the internet,
you're always going to straw man what
the other person's saying.
>> Mhm.
>> Always.
>> Which means that you're going to say
great men of history didn't spend their
time worrying about their problems and
overthinking things. You go, "No, no, I
don't mean that. I don't mean
ruminating. I mean I mean reflecting,
thinking, improving, acting in a loop
like an udala loop type thing and that
but the response will never get that
that the conversation is never allowed
to have enough nuance to be able to get
there.
>> Mhm.
>> What do what do you think?
>> Bias for action is a big deal.
>> Yes, 100%. having a bias for action. And
it's the advice hyperresponders thing
where
most people mo on average most people
probably need to think more. They
probably need to be less rash uh more
rational,
more considered and considerate when
they go and do stuff.
But there's a small cohort of people,
mostly the sort of people that listen to
podcasts like Senrose or this one, who
don't need to hear that. They actually
need to hear the opposite message. they
actually need to be doing [ __ ] maxing
which is why [ __ ] maxing I think has
taken off
>> because it's a counterveailing force to
people who already thought too much were
told that thinking and doing your
journaling and having a Ali Abdal 90day
sprint broken down into daily actions
and 25minut pomodoro blocks that doing
that that's the way to get to success
but that already played into the thing
that they had a predisposition for what
they didn't have a predisposition for
was a bias for action. So if there was
some way of being able to gift those
people, but the problem is
>> you're getting people who overthink and
have a tendency to overthink to work
against their nature, which is always
going to be hard.
>> Like lots of the people, like I look at
Dana White, I do not see a person who
has a problem with overthinking. I look
at Mark Andre, I don't see a person who
has a problem for overthinking.
>> But if you were to say that advice to
someone else, it's going to go down very
differently. So this the the whole
advice hypers respond is advice doesn't
land evenly. It distributes unevenly to
the people who
me too right guys that were told don't
be pushy with women
that were already blowing through
boundaries they just disregarded it.
They already disregarded the boundaries.
The guys that were already a bit nervous
and worried about approaching a woman
they were the ones that took it to
heart. So it just makes you more of what
you are. A lot of the time advice makes
you more of what you are.
>> I I think it comes down to you need new
words. So I I like like low agency
thinking and high agency thinking. So
the clear difference between the two is
is one getting you closer to some form
of action. Are you progressing or are
you ruminating? I think a clear issue
with rumination or overthinking is when
three things. One, most of your thoughts
aren't new.
>> They're repetitive.
>> They're cycling. M
>> two, most of your thoughts aren't
useful. They're not looking at ways you
might fix this problem. They're just
replaying a certain scenario again and
again and again. And three, the most
important part is that most of them
aren't even true.
>> Most of our thoughts that we think
aren't even true. So the difference
between I I would say when you're in low
agency thinking is uh new, useful, true.
And if you can go, if you can have new
thoughts, if you can find useful
thoughts, and you can find true
thoughts, that's the difference. That's
so good. That's really great. I guess
>> how do you get around the bias for
action even if you've managed to do
that? Or do you think that having new
useful and true thoughts tend to
encourage you to act because
>> exactly low low agency thinking will
lead to more thinking more rumination by
definition and high agency thinking will
it's soon it's almost like the claude or
chat GBT thinking time duh duh bull and
ahead however I think we discussed this
that netnet which I know you love the
term netn net
>> netn
I would you'd rather be a bit of a idiot
than a bit of a coward.
>> What's the difference?
>> Well, I'd rather be
make an error with high conviction than
make an error with low conviction.
>> And again, you've got a huge
generalization there where it's it's
kind of Charlie Munger's advice of don't
race trains, don't get involved in AIDS
situations. like this. There's the
obvious nuance there, but it's better to
be quick to act whilst thinking through
some initial risks and looking at the
downside
>> and moving fast than just sitting there
for years without ever finding out.
>> The reason type one, type two decisions.
>> Yeah. The reason that that's interesting
is most people who probably are making
decisions that are too rash aren't that
fussed about listening to nerdy
podcasts,
>> right? So, you almost don't need to
caveat it that if if you're the sort of
person that's reading Robert Green's 48
Laws of Power and is thinking about what
time they get up and tracking their
Whoop scores, like you're you've already
pre-selected. You're not going to be in
the [ __ ] maxing bin by nature. You're
going to have to learn [ __ ] maxing
through discipline, through through
trial. And uh yeah, I guess that means
that if it's the sort of thing that
speak that you're listening to, it's
probably the sort of thing that you need
to hear because the platform that you're
listening to it on is exactly the sort
of one that the sort of person who needs
to hear it would listen to. Does that
make sense?
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> Where do you think you need to do it
more?
>> [ __ ] everywhere, dude.
>> Yeah.
>> Jesus Christ. Yeah. I horrendous.
Horrendous at overthinking. I mean, I've
got a good bias for action, but uh it
takes too long. My confidence threshold,
if I could get in and adjust the
settings in my brain,
>> have a [ __ ] yourself and have a stroke.
>> That's actually that's a great idea.
>> If I was to go if I was to go and have a
really, really, really hard [ __ ]
>> which I had the other day, you couldn't
believe that I had a [ __ ] in the middle
of the day.
>> Yeah, it was impressive. That was the
most surprising thing of all of the
things that I've done since we've lived
together. Just having a [ __ ] at 1 p.m.
to you.
>> It was four.
>> It wasn't.
>> It was like four.
>> Okay. Well, I mean, look, I'm I'm an
equal opportunity [ __ ] and I'm
desperately trying to have a [ __ ]
aneurysm, so I acquire sant syndrome.
>> My latency. If Hitler If Hitler had
this,
>> if if Hitler had had a hard enough
>> significant artwork being produced,
>> if Hitler had had a hard enough [ __ ] we
would wouldn't have had World War II.
>> Yeah. If Hitler had shot himself more
and more aggressively out. Yeah, but the
[ __ ] numbers. Do you know what I mean?
He's got the face. Yeah, he's got a
face. Wasn't there a guy There was a guy
who laughed so hard at a guy missing a
football kick recently that it caused
him to have an aneurysm in his brain or
I think he had a stroke and then when
they went in to find
to work out what the [ __ ] had gone on
they there was this huge tumor that was
going to kill him and he had that done
and it was because some guy had missed
kicking the ball in a NFL game.
>> Wow. and a fan of the opposing team
laughed so hard that he basically did
kind of similar to the Savon syndrome
thing. Damn. Just had a full-on a
full-on explosion, head explosion. Most
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>> Are you Have you not got into American
sports since since moving here?
>> Fan of Rangers. I'm a fan of the Texas
Rangers, dude. I
>> meant Rangers FC.
>> No, fan of Texas Rangers. So baseball
became a fan of the Rangers. They won
the World Series first year that I was a
fan. I was like, "This is easy. This is
brilliant." Following you
not as successful. I have got into
baseball. Baseball is the closest proxy
for cricket.
>> Huh.
But that's it. I I watched the Super We
watched the Super Bowl. That was good.
>> What else? Can't get basketball's all
right, but highlights good. Which is
strange because baseball and American
football are much slower moving sports.
H and even though basketball is a much
faster moving sport generally I think
per minute of broadcast
how long's a NFL game like 80 minutes?
>> No, it's an hour.
>> An hour.
>> 15 minute quarters.
>> An hour. I think the total amount of
play time
typical in a oneh hour NFL game, I swear
it's less than 10 minutes.
>> Damn.
>> of action. It's a sport entirely reverse
engineered to allow adverts to be
played.
>> The American dream.
>> It is. Well, I mean, that's the most
sort of American thing that you can do,
right? To flog drain cleaner
in between.
>> It's it's a [ __ ] Ponzi scheme. This
country's sport system is a Ponzi
scheme.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's rough. I I've um I've
struggled to get into American sports so
far. And you realize that like Yousef, I
tried to sell him on getting into sports
because wherever you are in the world,
you can have a conversation with a taxi
driver. Apart from America, I can go
anywhere in the world and if football
comes up, if I say I'm from Manchester,
we can immediately like have a great
conversation for about 20 minutes. But
we in American sports, it's just
slightly it none of it makes sense. The
same way British sports make sense.
>> What is it? The the Premier Football
League. Is that technically what it's
called?
>> Premier League,
>> right? But I swear that people I swear
that when I meet people in America, they
say, "Oh, who'd you sport in the PFL?"
>> Yeah. I'm like, "Hey,
>> I called the EPL."
>> EPL.
Yeah. Who do you sport in the EPLL? And
it took a little while for me to go,
"What are you?" Tommy Robinson,
>> EDL. Uh,
I just I that's not that we don't speak
like that
in England. We don't talk about
>> the ECC, the English cricket or ECB,
English cricket board. We're not talking
about stuff like that.
>> But yeah, I I
>> I like baseball. Baseball's good. It's
[ __ ] slow. It's really slow. Have you
heard of
>> Hurry up, dude. Have you heard of Ali
Dier?
>> No.
>> British football player.
>> Ali Abdal.
>> He's no relation to Ali Abdal
unfortunately. So Ali Dier was a a
Southampton player. How he joined was
you ever heard of George Wer? So George
Wea was like the African player of the
year. I think he briefly played for
Manchester City back in the day. But um
he was one of the best players of all
like certainly from Africa but one of
the best players in the world at the
time. He might have even won a Balandor.
and Graeme Sunnes was the manager of
Southampton and he gets a phone call
from George Wayer saying there's this
new guy um who has just played at the
African Cup of Nations. He's like
incredible. Um I think he even claims
it's his nephew. He goes, "You've got to
give him a trial for Southampton." So
Ali Dier turns up at Southampton. It's
like one training session before the
game and they have such a small squad at
the minute that they just put him on the
bench. Um, one of the key Southampton
players gets injured. They sub Ali Dyron
and it's the worst like debut of all
time. This guy's [ __ ] terrible. So
much so, and this almost never happens
in football. He gets subbed on and then
subbed off.
>> Mhm.
>> Which is extremely rare.
>> Y
>> and he never played for Sam Hampton ever
again. And then when they begin to
investigate it, it wasn't George Wayer
on the phone. It was him. This guy used
to play like Sunday league. So he
managed to black his way to play in
Premier League football. So there's
always a chant now with the Southampton
fans of Ali Dier is a liar is a liar. So
So he just blacked his way in.
>> Jamie Vard's got a documentary coming
out.
>> I want to I saw that this morning. I
want to show you. I want to watch that.
Jamie Vardy, I don't even think started
playing professional level until the age
of 25.
And he's just you the thing is you
almost need like so much British
knowledge to understand who Jamie Vardy
is.
>> Couched inside of a very deep and
spiralally community and where does he
come from and what does it mean and
what's his background
>> unless you've been to Magalof Zante.
>> He is Jamie Vardy is Magalof. If Magalof
coalesed into human form, it would be
Jamie Vard.
>> He would take that as a compliment. Like
he he loves it. He [ __ ] loves it.
>> Yeah. but he uh he ends up making it pro
at such a later age in life but just
plays like a a conference league player.
So he even in the documentary the
trailer I watched he talks about no
striker tackles but this guy tackles or
he's drinking like two red balls before
the game. He's just constantly he almost
quit at like 27 28 after making it pro
cuz he wanted to go and do a season in
Zante. He wanted to go and be a
full-time nightclub promoter.
>> It's an alluring industry to get into.
And then because he was in Yeah. some
[ __ ] Sunday league team.
>> Yeah.
>> And then got picked up by Leicester.
>> Mhm.
>> And then went on to have the most insane
the first season wins the Premier League
with Leicester, which is
it's the biggest you'd argue it's one of
the biggest sporting achievements of all
time. It's one of the biggest underdog
stories.
>> And a lot of that was because of him and
his performance. He he broke the Premier
League record for the most amount of
consecutive goals. Like I think it was
12 games, 12 or 13 games.
>> Scored 13 games in a row, right? Which
is insane.
>> Whilst like eating Monster Munch and
just being an absolute generous Yeah.
>> I That's another thing that I think
Americans really struggle with, which is
there are some very good niche British
snacks that you can't get over here. Uh
because there's American aisles,
American candy aisles now at Tesco's in
the UK. So if you go and look and and
you'll be able to get Lucky Charms and
and Cheetos with America, all of the
seed oils and the red 40 and stuff
included. Uh but you can't come over
here and get Jaffa cakes and jammy
Dodgers and Cadbury's fingers and stuff
like that. And I think
>> we're missing out, man. That would be I
think that would be a gift that we could
give back to America. I I um wrote this
thing recently about the uh Roman
Empire. I relate it back to Britain. Um
but I think we've spoken about this
previously, but I did a research for
this piece called Don't Wait for the
News. And essentially
the Roman Empire, do you know when the
Roman Empire fell? 400ish. So the thing
with the Roman Empire falling, it's it's
up for debate. Even historians debate
it. But the mainstream historical point
of view, which is not the weird niche
stuff that you get into, but the
mainstream historical point of view is
476 AD that Romulus, who um was the
founder of Rome, so it's poetic. I think
this is why we like that as the ending.
Romulus, who was the founder of Rome,
then young Romulus, who was in the
throne when it ended, got replaced by
the barbarian Odisa. So Romulus saw Rome
uh rise and Romulus saw Rome fall for
clarity. It's not the same bloke.
>> It's not the same bloke. This is over
like hundreds of years. Um but that's
just the poetry of why they say that
date.
But if you woke up that day after the
Roman Empire that we now say has fallen,
there was no there was no big
announcement. There was no news. If the
book the sovereign individual has this
beautiful line which if the CNN existed
during the fall of the Roman Empire the
headline would not have been the Roman
Empire has just fallen. So you have the
split of the Roman Empire you have the
Eastern Roman Empire and you have the
Western Roman Empire. The um Eastern
Roman Empire goes on to about 1300 AD.
Charlemagne becomes the emperor he calls
himself the emperor of Rome in about 700
to 800 AD.
So the eastern uh empire falls. Voltater
famously says in 1700 that the entity
that calls itself the Holy Roman Empire
is neither Holy nor Roman nor an empire.
That was in 1700s. It was only in the
1800s when Napoleon was invading did um
I think it's Francis II dissolve the
Roman Empire. So if you would have
waited to be told that the Roman Empire
was over, it would have been your great
great great great great great
great great
great great great great
great
great great great great
grandchild. 48 generations it would have
taken. So I kind of wrote this this
piece and then I said that this story
terrified me because when today's
biggest empire falls nobody's going to
tell me like nobody's going to tell me
that the British Empire is no longer the
most powerful empire in the world.
Obviously it is right now.
Obviously, the British Empire is the the
most powerful empire that exists right
now. I can't tell if what I don't want
to have happen is for me to be the one
that lives in denial long after the
event.
>> I think you already are.
>> The rise of Gary Stevenson.
>> So, but I uh Yeah. Well, the Gary
Stevenson will be like the 1800 one.
That's when when Gary's when Gary's in
office with the [ __ ] like tucked in
tucked in like this. That'll be when
it's like the British Empire. We all
admit the British Empire is over. But
it's funny. So I posted that as a like a
trolling like kind of sarcasm statement
of like oh lecturering about the history
of the Roman Empire whilst pretending
that I still think the British Empire is
the biggest thing. And there was quite a
few people in the comment section who
was going along with the the humor of
it. But the amount of emails I got of
people saying you do realize the British
Empire is no longer the most uh powerful
thing. And I was like let's just go
fully fully in with the joke. I'm like
why are you still talking English?
and just like kept going back and forth
with them that the uh the British Empire
But you know what that's actually the
saddest thing um I know don't really do
geopolitics on the show but the saddest
thing of the Ayatollah dying is that
when he used to address um the world
stage he would often talk about Great
Britain as if we're still the most
powerful country in the world or one of
the leading countries so that's the one
thing I did appreciate about the
Ayatollah of Iran that it's Something
that completely blows my mind that I
don't understand. People who regularly
get into small back and forth spats in
the comment section. James does this all
the time.
>> Smith.
>> Yeah, all the time, mate. He loves it.
He loves it. He just loves winding
people up. But I I just
I I sometimes will post something on
Twitter and there'll be all of these
replies and all of these people and
weeks later there'll be two people still
going at it.
It's It's [ __ ] infuriating. It's in
my notifications.
>> Oh man.
>> It's in my It's in my notifications.
It's like Do you know what it's like?
It's like having two neighbors that are
having an argument with each other, but
you live in the house that's in between.
Like, can you not go over to his house
directly? Because at the moment, I'm
caught in this crossfire. Unbelievable.
>> Have you ever seen the meme? It's one of
my favorite ones. uh where it's a guy on
his deathbed and he's kind of like lay
there like just about to die and he's
got like the speech bubble for like the
Bronny wear deathbed regrets and it's
just I wish I spent more time arguing
online
>> people on the internet. Yeah.
>> But yeah, I I mean I rarely ever do the
spats, but when it's pure, oh, this
person doesn't understand the joke.
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we I was thinking about this the other
day. What's the longest ever traffic jam
in terms of duration? So, I'm just
thinking about what's the longest ever
internet argument is is still ongoing.
It's something from 2008 that's still
going in a weird forum somewhere,
Mumsnet or whatever.
>> Uh there two different records people
people usually mean when talking about
the longest traffic jam ever. longest by
duration. The most infamous was the
China National Highway 110 traffic jam
in 2010 stretched about 100 kilometers
near Beijing and lasted 12 days
from August 14th to August 26. Some
drivers reportedly moved only 1
kilometer per day. It was caused by a
mix of road works, overloaded coal
trucks, and traffic volumes far beyond
the highway's design capacity. The
longest by distance, Guinness World
Records, the traffic jam in France in
1980 is the longest by length. It was
109 mile backup between Lyon and Paris
caused by holiday traffic and bad
weather. It's also a bizarre contender
by sheer scale after German
reunification in 1990. Reports described
around 18 million cars clogging roots at
the East West German border. Do you
imagine living through that
reunification?
You've been part of the same country but
essentially different universes.
Jesus.
If you like traffic data,
I've got some Go on.
>> Cracking traffic data.
>> Go on. So, in the 1960s,
>> here's a little little question.
>> Okay.
>> Can you guess where the most deadly
roads in Europe were?
>> Is of man.
>> No.
>> In the UK.
>> No.
>> Right.
>> We're not in Europe.
>> Brexit means Brexit, Christopher. It
does. That's true. Island.
>> No. Um,
>> okay. I was trying to own something
close to home there.
>> So, it's uh it's Belgium. Surprising
location of Belgium. Okay. So,
they had a policy which was known as the
18th birthday party gift by Belgians.
So, here's how it would work. You'd turn
18, walk downstairs, parents would do
happy birthday. Can you do it in
Belgian?
>> No. Can you?
>> No. um happy birthday to you. Um they'd
then take you down to the car
dealership. You'd get a little birthday
plaque from them. They'd say happy
birthday as well. You'd pay for a car,
show your data buff, you'd get the car,
and you'd attempt to drive away. So
Belgium had no driving test policies at
all.
>> So you could just fullon libertarian
style just attempt to drive away. And
the 18th birthday party gift in Belgium
was the number one killer of Belgians
between the age of 18 to 24. So Belgium
had the most deadliest roads in Europe,
certainly per capita. So you know what
the government did to try and fix it?
They said, "Right, we're putting an end
to this." In 1969 they said before you
can drive
you have to do a mandatory theory test
because if you go and study and then
drive at least will prevent these
mistakes. So what happens is 1969
there's this cut off everybody from then
onwards has to do theory tests and this
Belgian transport official like releases
the results and he goes it's appears to
be the case that the accident rate
amongst the theory drivers is higher
than the ones who never got theory
tested at all. So the death rate went up
by 32% with the theory test drivers.
Why?
>> Um, one theory is, there you go. One
theory is that they have this kind of
false sense of confidence going into the
roads that at least the ones that knew
they couldn't drive didn't have. But the
Belgian mate, the Belgian traffic stuff
goes on for years. There's like iconic
cartoons of like how dangerous the roads
are in Belgium. And there's a great
thing in the 80s where I think it's
Jeanl de Harm could be could have
butchered that, but we'll go with it.
Jean Dhan he becomes transport minister.
This man ends up becoming PM but just
listen to the job that he does transport
minister. So he one day gets into office
to fix the Belgium road. So he's done
all this campaigning about the issues
around it. He gets clocked going I think
it's like 70 and a 40
and he does the the beautiful
politicians answer where he says it
wasn't me it was my daughter. And then
they quickly find out it wasn't his
daughter, it was him in the car. So he
goes, "Okay, I'll hire a chauffeur from
now on. So I'll only get driven by a
chauffeur." So he starts with a
chauffeur. And a journalist one day
tailgates the chauffeur. The chauffeur
commits 12 driving offenses in 30
minutes. And this is one of the best
political statements of all time. When
the transport ministry was pressed,
well, are you going to fire the
chauffeur now? the lady who's the
spokeswoman, just a rare moment of
honesty. She said, "If we fired
everybody in the Belgian transport
ministry that was committing traffic
offenses, there'd be nobody left here to
work." So, that's some cracking traffic
data. Well, I know that Egypt got the I
think it's the easiest
driving test in the world, which is
crazy cuz I've done the one in America
and that explains a lot about American
drivers. It's not The British one's kind
of hard. Yes. You must know what what
what do you reckon the failure rate
among your friends was for the first
time test?
>> Did you do did you pass first time?
>> I passed first time.
>> You catch me as a first- timer.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah, I know. [ __ ]
Hermione Granger over here. Um,
>> but then you look at somewhere like Bali
and these guys are essentially surgeons
with with scooters and they're able to
thread this needle. I remember the first
time I went to I'd spent time in
Thailand, but I'd gone up north and up
north in Pi, really, really close to the
northern border.
There's no traffic. So, yeah, people had
riding around a family of five on a
single scooter and there's a goat on the
back and stuff, but there wasn't any of
that crazy weaving [ __ ] And I flew back
through Chiang Mai and it was insane.
And you've been to Thailand? Yes. And
you've seen the roads, right, in Bangkok
and and Chiang Mai. It is out of this
world. It is [ __ ] insane just how
chaotic it is. And it really they kind
of that scared me a bit. Like holy f
like it's just so danger. I didn't I was
in a car so I'm going to be okay I guess
unless someone smashes through the
window. But it made me it made me kind
of fearful for all of the other people.
This is your dayto-day. You're arriving
at work. That's your commute right now.
Let's sit down and go over the quarterly
earnings report. Thinking I'm sorry, my
adrenaline is just as if I've been in a
fight with a bear. But I I wonder with
time, do you adapt to it? I think where
it doesn't get enough criticism for
their roads is everybody talks about how
safe Dubai is and it's this hub of
safety. The roads in Dubai, I think
you're four times more likely to die on
than the British roads. And one of the
>> drivers or because of the roads?
Definitely the the design of the roads
are are peculiar um and not optimal. But
I have a theory that there where you
have 90% expats from all over the world
that there's actually no cultural
like grounding on the roads cuz you've
got one guy got one guy from Pakistan
here
>> that you should let you out.
>> One guy from the UK here, one guy from
France here, one guy from Germany here,
one lady from Usbekiststan here. like it
just lady from US is not allowed to
drive but go on I think you can drive
inistan I don't know um but as a result
there's no cultural crossover where for
example if I'm driving in the UK I know
that if a guy gets really angry beeping
his horn at me it's like it's what it is
like it's chill whereas I also wouldn't
do that I would never I'm not a big horn
beeper anyway but I would be way more
like to beep in the UK than I would here
>> everyone's got guns
>> yes so it's just understanding the lay
of the land. But when you're in
somewhere like Dubai where it's just it
there's there's no cultural uh attitudes
on the roads, it's just
>> it's too much of a melting pot and you
need consensus cuz that's the only way
that it works. I told you about the the
guy who uh I was in a Uber. was like a
this was in Dubai and it was like a
Sprinter van and I'm in the back of the
Sprinter van and we're on the roads and
there's like loads of other people in
the Uber on the way to a steak
restaurant and I'm just kind of lonely
looking out the window and I kind of
look at the driver and he's on his phone
and he's goes off the the maps for a
second. What's he going on? And I look
at it and he's on trading 212. He's
trading crypto, wasn't he?
>> And he was he was shorting I think the
Japanese yen as he's going 70 on the
highway.
>> And I so I I shouted at I go I go stop
right now and this you know this is the
most British thing ever. I thought why
not say don't want to say anything.
>> I'll risk I don't want to make a fuss. I
shouldn't make a I shouldn't make a
fuss.
>> If I die cuz some
>> trying to short Japanese yen. So I
shouted at him and he stopped. Start
looking out the window again. Come back.
He's doing it against the pound.
>> Yeah. The issue was my issue wasn't the
currency. My issue wasn't the currency.
It wasn't the trade. It was the fact
that you were doing the trading.
>> Man,
>> I'm here for the self-driving cars.
>> So you can So you can do as much trading
as you want.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] yeah. All right. I appreciate
you, man. Until next time. So much fun.
>> See you everybody.
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