There's something going on that's not
being disclosed to us.
>> As you probably know, if you don't live
under a rock, Steven Spielberg just
dropped Disclosure Day, his magnum opus,
alien movie to end all alien movies, the
bookend to a career exploring the
unknown and portraying it wondrously for
global audiences.
The Hollywood legend is no stranger to
movies about extraterrestrials.
from Firelight, a movie he made at the
age of 17 for $500 following a group of
scientists as they investigate a series
of strange abductions in their small
Arizona town to the legendary Close
Encounters of the Third Kind, where
civilian contactes and a group of elite
researchers are led through
synchronicities to converge on Devil's
Tower in Wyoming for a face-to-face
meeting with the Grays to ET, where a
lovable shipwrecked little alien is
given shelter by abandon of suburban
kids to the cold machines, lifeless
invaders reigning terror on an urban New
York landscape in the War of the Worlds
to this Disclosure Day. Perhaps the
capstone to them all, and maybe the most
mystical and esoteric of Spielberg's
long list of alien movies, if I do say
so myself.
Spielberg's interest in UFOs isn't new,
and it's not superficial. In fact, he
casts J. Alan Heinik, the chief
astronomer of the Air Force's project
blue book in Close Encounters of the
Third Kind. And he portrayed Heinik's
assistant, the French godfather of
modern UFO research, Jacqu Valet,
casting the legendary Francois Trufo, to
play him.
>> You were the person that Steven
Spielberg modeled a character of a UFO
researcher on in his classic movie,
Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Famed UFO documentarian James Fox
revealed a letter that Spielberg had
sent regarding his 2009 documentary, I
Know What I Saw. In the letter,
Spielberg praised the film, stating,
"With great curiosity, I watched the
documentary you sent over and found it
compelling. Personally, I would like to
think we are not alone. And even though
I have devoted a generous percentage of
my movies to extraterrestrial related
themes, I for one have never seen a
UFO." At that time in 2009, Fox was
operating on a shoestring budget. UFO
documentaries weren't really a thing,
and Spielberg took the time to call his
movie compelling. My point is, Spielberg
genuinely loves UFOs. He's not a fair
weather fan going with the tides or
riding off the modern surge of interest.
>> I mean, the movie for me is a summation
of my life in science fiction, which is
started when I was 17 years old. Now, if
you listen to Spielberg's interviews
about Disclosure Day, you might be
familiar with this narrative. He had
five ideas for movies he wanted to make
at this juncture in his life. He's now
mostly spending time with family and
just enjoying himself. And this concept,
Disclosure Day, just happened to keep
nagging at him.
It rose above the rest organically. Yes,
he was also inspired by Leslie Kane's
New York Times article in 2017 about the
2004 Nimttz incident with Commander
David Fraver and his Navy crew seeing a
tic-tac UFO off the coast of San Diego.
It also included details about the
existence of Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid's UFO program named OAP that
ran from 2007 to 2012. And finally,
Spielberg notes as inspiration all of
these whistleblowers coming out over the
last decade, saying, "Not only are UFOs
real, but in many cases, they've seen
firsthand evidence of them."
So, Steven started taking notes in his
notes app. He hit up his longtime
writing partner, David Cop, and magic
ensued. But you, the audience, might be
wondering, is the timing of this movie
literally concurrent with sequential
data dumps of UFO evidence from the
Department of War, really just a pure
coincidence? At South by Southwest, when
asked if we are in fact alone, Steven
caveed his answer with this. I only know
what you know. I have no access to
special information.
But Toby Hooper, the director of
Poltergeist and Texas Chainsaw Massacre
and a close contact of Spielbergs,
apparently said this. So we're sitting
there and all the producers, Bryce,
everyone else is kind of talking and
we're kind of and I said to him, "So
Toby, you're you're finally going to
have one up on Steven cuz I know he's
very competitive with his buddy Steven
Spielberg." And uh he goes, "What do you
mean?" And I said, "Well, you're going
to be the first one to put a crop circle
on film."
and uh and he hasn't done that yet. And
he's like, "Yeah, I'm never going to
beat Steven in that category."
>> And I go, "What do you mean? Why?" And
he goes, "Uh, you know, after Jaws, he
you know, he was like, really big deal?"
And he apparently he got approached by
some guys from Naval Intelligence or
something and they came and offered him
a deal. And uh
>> did he actually say naval intelligence?
>> Yes, he did. Oh, he did. All right. Wow.
>> And uh and yeah, and he took it and he
he you know, he got he got all sorts of
information. I mean, Close Encounters is
based on a true story. And I was like,
"What?" And he goes, "Yeah, I mean ET
too, like he got access to a bunch of
really like interesting case files and
stuff."
>> And yet I ask you, is not an alien force
already among us?
>> And President Ronald Reagan during a
showing of ET to highlevel national
security personnel at the White House,
apparently said this as relayed to us by
Spielberg himself.
>> And he said, "I want to thank you for
bringing ET to the White House. We
really enjoyed your movie." And then he
looked around the room and he said, "And
there are a number of people in this
room who know that everything on that
screen is absolutely true." And he said
it without smiling. And everybody
laughed, by the way. The whole room
laughed because he presented it like a
joke, but he wasn't smiling as he said
it.
>> Accordingly, there's a long history of
Easter eggs, little hints of UFO truths
dropped by Spielberg that are way ahead
of their time in all of his movies. He
shows crates in Close Encounters of the
Third Kind with the names Loheed and
TRW, two likely active legacy UFO crash
retrieval programs at the time of the
movie's making. In the movie, Richard
Drifus even gets a sunburn due to UV
damage when he comes into close contact
with a UFO. That movie is probably the
first time the wider public has heard
anything about electromagnetic radiation
damage or burns from a UFO encounter.
But now the UFO whistleblowers we listen
to most are talking about this all the
time.
>> Well, that sounds like visible band
light being blue shifted in the
ultraviolet and you're getting literally
a sunburn.
>> The tones played to make alien contact
at Devil's Tower in Wyoming were
probably directly inspired by Ethership,
a musical duo in the 70s which pioneered
sonic xenolinguistics and performance
art ensemble. Basically, they used sound
and light to attempt communication with
non-human extraterrestrial intelligence.
Now, on the face of it, this might sound
like a bunch of hippies who've done too
much LSD and have lost their mind, but
the group was contacted by Valerie
Ransone, who is an intelligence
operative during the Nixon years,
connected at the highest levels of
government. Ransone really wanted to use
their work to attempt official
extraterrestrial contact through a
growing field at the time called
seiotics. Ransone was also coordinating
with Jacqu Valet on this effort. And
again, Jacques is depicted by France
Rufo as this eccentric French scientist
literally on Devil's Tower trying to
make contact with aliens through
different musical tones. So, this whole
ether ship saga sounds a lot like Close
Encounters of the Third Kind, if you ask
me. I just found out that ET may also
have been loosely based on a true story
from the ' 70s. The ET thing, we haven't
done the episode yet, but we're going to
do a whole episode. There was it's
actually based on a true story, a case.
I know that, right? Yeah. In Kentucky or
>> Well, that's what got it started.
>> That's what got it started. That was the
impetus for it. Wow. Where a far a
family found an alien on a farm and they
hid it in their barn and the whole
thing. It was a movie called Night
Skies, which he was developing as a
producer.
>> I had no idea.
>> Yeah. And it was communicating with a
kid who was autistic.
If you recall the plot, there's a
symbiotic connection between ET and
Elliot, the little boy that takes him
in. Their behaviors perfectly mirror one
another. When ET drinks a beer, Elliot
gets drunk at school. When ET gets
critically ill, Elliot's body mimics the
decline. In fact, they have to sever
their connection when ET's health goes
downhill so Elliot can survive. This
mimicking phenomena is remarkably
similar to how crash retrieval operators
explain the relationship to the crafts
they encounter. It's almost as if the
crafts they're coming into contact with
awaken feelings deep inside of them.
Just listen to the experience of Jake
Barber. I felt that there was something
conscious about the craft um during the
recovery process that had tapped into me
and was disruptive in the most beautiful
way in my ability to operate a
helicopter and almost led to me punching
this craft off and creating a whole
another crash site like in between where
I picked it up and dropped it off.
Finally, we can't forget that Spielberg
produced Back to the Future, a movie
directed by Robert Semechus, the
legendary filmmaker behind Contact. The
movie involves time travel and perhaps
not coincidentally, the wacky scientist
who discovers time travel is named EMTT
with two T's. Brown, Thomas Townsen
Brown, an obscure yet legendary
inventor, notorious, but only in certain
intelligence circles at the time the
movie was made. Brown was responsible
for the famous Philadelphia experiment
in the early 40s. He also thought that
he had unlocked time travel with his
gravity manipulation technology. If you
think that's far-fetched, then you have
to realize that gravity and time are
very interrelated in general relativity.
And you also have to deal with the fact
that we have an FBI document saying that
Brown was deeper than anyone in the Navy
on radar. You see, the wacky scientist
from Back to the Future, Doc Brown, was
also Towns and Brown's nickname. His
time and gravity manipulating
experiments involved high voltage
capacitors. Doc Brown's time travel
machine that he invented was called a
flux capacitor. The house in the movie
is in Pasadena where Towns and Brown
lived and his original lab was for many
years. And Doc Brown goes back in time
from 1985, the year Towns and Brown
died, to 1955, the year Brown proved his
experiments. I spoke to Brown's daughter
directly, who is sure that the character
is based on him. You're the only one
that's noticed that. Uh, so I can
graduate you.
>> So you tell me if all of that's a
coincidence. Spielberg and Zmechus also
hint at the fact in the movie that
aliens might actually just be a popular
modern meme and it's really all a cover
for time travel. When Marty McFly uses
the Delorean time machine to go back in
time, it crashes into a family's house,
the Peabodies. Their youngest child,
Sherman Peabody, points at the Delorean
and shouts that it's a flying saucer. He
thinks Marty in his radiation suit is an
alien who's come from space. He's
holding a comic in his hand about space
aliens, implying that he's been primed
or conditioned to believe that anything
anomalous is from outer space. Once
Marty McFly was back in the ' 50s, he
also needed to ensure that he wouldn't
alter timelines too drastically. He
needed his father, George, to end up
with his mom, Lorraine, so he wouldn't
disappear in the future. That's a
classic physics paradox around time
travel. So, he decides to sneak into
George, his father's bedroom at night
while George is asleep, wearing his
radiation suit and playing a loud
distorted Van Halen tape. He poses as an
alien, calling himself Darth Vader from
the planet Vulcan. Marty threatens his
father, George, and says that he must
take Lraine to the dance or face dire
consequences. The disorienting music and
the costume terrify George into
compliance. The implication being that
aliens are really just future human time
travelers showing up in the way that
will impact us most. And in the ' 50s,
that form happened to be UFOs and space
aliens. Spielberg apparently also
privately told Deadpool creator Robert
Leefield that aliens were time travelers
and implied that again in an interview
with Steven Colbear. What if they're not
from an advanced civilization 300
million lighty years from here? But what
if it's us 500,000 years into the future
and they know something that we don't
quite know. And then you have the
littleknown story of the official
Hollywood CIA liaison Chase Brandon who
operated publicly as the AY's Hollywood
point person for a decade helping on
movies like The Recruit, The Sum of All
Fears, Meet the Parents, and The Born
Identity.
Brandon had worked in black operations
for decades, even training at the
legendary farm. He knew the ropes, could
help Hollywood directors write about
intelligence in a less armchair way,
probably shape the narrative, and plant
Easter eggs, hide truth in fiction.
Now, Brandon started his gig shaping
public perception in 1996, the year that
Men in Black did most of its filming.
They needed to rework the plot before it
was released a year later. Here's the
kicker. Chase Brandon, the official
Hollywood CIA liaison, was cousins with
Men in Black co-star Tommy Lee Jones.
Men in Black was made by Amlin
Entertainment, Spielberg's production
outfit. As you know, if you take UFOs
seriously, the Men in Black are a very
real, consistent phenomenon where tall,
nondescript, and sometimes alien looking
men in black attire try to collect and
suppress UFO sightings, wreckage, or
truths. For really large-scale UFO
flyovers or crashes, they almost always
show up on the scene. So maybe, just
maybe, I'm speculating here. Tommy Lee
Jones hit up his cousin, Chase Brandon,
the brand new official Hollywood CIA
point person, for advice. Jones himself
is no stranger to the intelligence
world. He played the only person to ever
get prosecuted in connection with the
JFK assassination, Klay Shaw, in Oliver
Stone's JFK.
Now is probably a good time to be super
clear. I don't know how connected
Spielberg is with intelligence. And I'm
not knocking him at all as a filmmaker
or calling him some deep state plant.
>> I'm not a plant of the Pentagon or the
government or any deep state contracting
company.
>> I think his filmm is a gift to humanity.
Everyone covering UFOs and I mean
everyone has some intelligence contacts
or uses some information from
intelligence. It's a main conduit of
information about this stuff, however
you look at it. I see UFO content
creators all the time act extremely
irreverent about the intelligence world
and then proceed to state something as
fact that they were clearly fed from
intel sources. If you're trying to
discuss the government's relationship to
UFOs, of course, some of your sources
are going to come from the government.
Having said that, I do think context
matters and the whole I wrote this movie
on my notes app might not be the full
picture. And accordingly, I think
Spielberg dropped some deep hardcore
truths in Disclosure Day that maybe
weren't completely based on open- source
research. And the fact that he might be
connected should just make you want to
search for those truths harder. So,
without further ado, let's unpack the
bombshell truths Spielberg hid in this
movie. for his indelible contributions
to the field. Let's make him this week's
American Alchemist, Steven Spielberg.
First, spoiler alert. Here's the basic
premise. There's a shadowy government-
linked corporation called Wardex, and
they're sitting on the single biggest
secret in human history. Aliens are
real. They've been here for decades, and
they come in peace. Wardex isn't the
government. They're their own
government. almost like a breakaway
chain of command, far more powerful than
our civilian-elected leaders. The
company has also hoarded and suppressed
the scientific breakthroughs that have
arisen from the alien presence, keeping
everything to themselves to maintain
their technological superiority. That is
until one of their own breaks ranks.
Enter Hugo Wakefield, a former Wardex
higherup turned defector, a kind of
soothsayer who decides the world
deserves the truth. He hatches a plan to
dump decades of evidence into the open
all at once.
>> There will be no other day like
tomorrow.
>> His unlikely accomplice is a
mildmannered, somewhat hless, but
extremely intelligent cyber security guy
named Daniel, played by Josh O' Connor.
Daniel ends up sprinting across the
country going on the run with proof of
aliens literally stuffed in his
backpack. I'm talking videos of alien
bodies in cryionic chambers in
hospitals, crash retrievalss, the whole
nine, along with an alien artifact
called the device that enhances the
telepathic powers of anyone touching it.
So Daniel is on the run taking this
damning evidence with him. Wordex's
former employer is hot on his heels,
hunting him every step of the way. In
parallel, there's Kansas City News
anchor Margaret Fairchild, played by
Emily Blunt, who spontaneously starts
speaking Russian in her apartment with
her confused boyfriend.
>> When do you speak Korean?
>> I speak Korean. What?
>> She also seems to know things about
random strangers.
>> You're not FBI.
>> It's like dormant psychic powers have
been activated inside of her. It gets so
intense that when she goes live to do
the weather at work one day, she loses
the ability to speak altogether and
starts making alien clicking noises,
freaking out her colleagues and
garnering the attention of Wardex, who
confirms that the clicking noises are in
their records as a real documented alien
language. And she's somehow connected to
Daniel in some primordial inexplicable
way. Daniel sees the viral clip of her
on air clicking noises and understands
the language immediately. So Margaret
and Daniel aren't just messengers.
They've got strange unsettling powers
that might be the actual key to making
contact with whatever's up there. They
each have one half of the puzzle.
Hugo Wakefield is pulling the strings at
a higher level. He's somehow able to
call each of them perfectly right in the
nick of time. Engineer their
interactions in narrow escapes from
Wordex. And while these two are running
for their lives, the rest of the world
starts to crack.
Corporate titans, scientists, TV
networks, even nuns wrestling with their
faith, all at war over one impossible
question.
When the universe turns out to be way
bigger than your god, your government,
or your worldview ever admitted? Does
humanity come together or unravel and
fall apart? Throw in World War II
anxieties, crop circles, real historical
UFO crashes and lore, and a final shot
of a UFO descending out of the clouds
straight out of Close Encounters. And
Spielberg basically ties a beautiful bow
on all of the alien movies he started
making back in the 70s.
Okay, so what about any of this is
possibly real? Well, I think a lot of
it. Wex operates a lot like the Real UFO
Legacy Crash retrieval program. Wardex
is located in Northern Virginia. This is
also the site of Grey Fox, an elite of
the elite reconnaissance unit for the
United States Army. Rayfox is not its
own independent program, but rather one
of the many historical top secret cover
names for a tier 1 unit within the Joint
Special Operations Command or JC,
officially known as the US Army
Intelligence Support Activity or ISA.
Within the military and intelligence
community, the unit is most commonly
referred to simply as the activity or
task force orange. The unit is so deeply
embedded in Northern Virginia. Again,
the location of Wardex in Disclosure Day
that one of the unit's most famous
insider nicknames is the Army of
Northern Virginia. This is exactly how
they function. JOC or the Joint Special
Operations Command is the umbrella
headquarters that controls America's
elite special mission units. Delta Force
is the direct action assault unit under
JOCK. Basically, the door kickers. The
Activity or Grayfox is Jox's dedicated
intelligence unit providing the signals
intercepts, human intelligence, and on
the ground target finding that tell
Delta and SEAL Team 6 where to go and
who to hit.
Gray Fox is often first on the scene,
knowing things about sensitive people
and areas before anyone else. Again, we
have some parallels here. Word stands
for watch, recon, develop, and extract.
They were forged from failure. Born in
the ashes of the disastrous 1980 Iran
hostage rescue when America swore it
would never send in special operations
again blind. They needed a unit that
could see literally everything. Grey Fox
flew ghost planes over the jungles of El
Salvador, snatching guerilla radio
chatter out of thin air before the enemy
even knew anyone was listening. They
hunted the most feared drug lord on
earth, Pablo Escobar, pinpointing his
phone signals until the net finally
closed around him in Colombia. They were
in the chaos over Moadishu, the eyes in
the storm during the brutal firefight
the world would come to know as
Blackhawk Down. They stalked war
criminals throughout the shattered
Balkans, turning whispers into
coordinates. And after 9/11, they
vanished into Afghanistan and Iraq, the
invisible hand behind the hunt for
terrorists, helping run down targets
like Zarqawi himself. Now, if you know
anything about the UFO crash retrieval
program, it's rumored to be closely
coordinated with JOCK or the Joint
Special Operations Command, which is the
umbrella organization again that Grayfox
sits within. If this is true, Gray Fox
would be one of the first lines of
defense for UFO crash retrievalss
globally.
Maybe it's not a coincidence then that
former American alchemist and the UFO
whistleblower responsible for that 2017
New York Times article, who also has
honestly inspired a lot of modern
disclosure, is a guy named Lou Alzando.
Lou's been a past guest on the show. As
he'll be the first one to admit, Lou is
definitely sitting on more sensitive UFO
related information than he relays in
general interviews. I get the sense that
you're sitting on things that feel like
very hard truths.
>> Time is not a luxury that we can afford.
>> And you see, Lou Alzando is an alumni of
Greyfox. So, we have two pretty
interesting data points. Gray Fox does
recon and goes into the most sensitive
areas before J-A does. And we know that
Jay- Sock probably has something to do
with UFOs. And Lou Alzando, a man who
seems to know a lot more than he can say
about UFOs, used to work there.
Another entity, this time a private
company located in Northern Virginia, is
Science Applications and Integrations
Technology, also known as SIC, and
headquartered in Reston, North Virginia.
SIC has openly studied exotic
propulsion, anti-gravity, directed
energy, and other exotic science. They
also seem to work handinhand with
Stargate, the CIA's psychic spy program.
Finally, former NSA director Bobby Ray
Inman, who's openly spoken about UFOs to
researcher Bobby Oxler on a phone call,
was on the board of sic. Do you uh
anticipate that any of the recovered
vehicles would ever become available for
technological research?
>> 10 years ago, the answer would have been
>> whether as time has evolved, they're
beginning to become more open on it is a
possibility.
>> The former head of the all domain
anomalies resolution office or arrow,
the official Pentagon UFO Investigation
Group, also used to work at SIC, Sean
Kirkpatre.
I have no idea if Grayfox and SIC work
together. It would likely be pretty
classified and off the books if they
did, but it's my belief that Grreyfox
probably uses remote viewing as an
intelligence modality. If you're going
into the most sensitive areas on Earth,
why wouldn't you? And if any of this UFO
crash retrieval stuff is real, of course
you'd use remote viewing on it. And SIC
being the inheritors of the CIA's best
remote viewing protocols makes them a
great candidate for consulting with
Grayfox. The fact that they're a private
contractor also makes them not subject
to Freedom of Information Act requests
for say UFO material. Again, sounds a
lot like Wardex. And remember, in the
movie, Wardex uses remote viewing
regularly. Noah Scanland, played by
Colin FTH, is the sinister leader of
Wardex, and he regularly remote views,
or as he calls it, dives on targets to
figure out what they're up to. Some of
the depictions of remote viewing are
accurate down to a tea. For example,
when Colin FTH remote views a subject,
his eyes change color to match theirs,
almost inhabiting the body of the person
or thing he's remote viewing. Top
government spy Lynn Buchanan said that's
happened to him before on my show. Your
eyes turned to the same color as
>> That's what she said. That's what she
told me. Yeah. Uh-huh.
>> So, it was like you were merging with
him.
>> Merging sort of. Yeah.
>> Wow. And speaking of UFO legacy program
gatekeepers, Noah Scanland looks like
the spitting image of former CIA
director of science and technology Glenn
Gaffne, who many on my show have accused
of running the entire UFO program. In
fact, journalist George Knapp even
testified to Congress saying that Gaffne
was personally responsible for blocking
the transfer of UFO materials from
Loheed Martin to Bigalow Aerospace in
2008. Glenn Gaffne, CIA.
>> Glen Gaffne, CIA.
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Number two, The Majestic 12 and Deep
State Timeline Wars. Hugo Wakefield
isn't the only defector from Warex. 12
in total left, including someone named
Nathan Twinning. Twinning is a play on
the head of air material command for the
air force in the ' 40s. The main
responsible for all aircraft development
back then. His real name was Nathan
Twining. He was also one of the first
head honchos in the federal government
to begin to take UFOs seriously. After
Roswell in the famous sighting of pilot
Kenneth Arnold months earlier, he wrote
the famous Twining memo on UFOs in 1947.
a letter that's become canonical in UFO
lore because he openly says that these
aerial objects aren't visionary or
fictitious. What may also not be
fictitious is the Majestic 12 committee
he was rumored to be appointed to by
President Truman, an elite group of
scientists, military and intelligence
officials who directly advised the
president on UFOs. Remember that
Hollywood liaison Chase Brandon? Well,
he wrote a book called Crypto's
Conundrum, and in it was a committee
that sounds exactly like Majestic 12.
Brandon starts the book with a Francis
Bacon quote, "Truth is so hard to tell
that sometimes it needs fiction to make
it plausible."
This committee that sounds a lot like
the Majestic 12 had access to a sacred
object similar to the device in
Disclosure Day, but in this case, it was
a crystal tablet that gave them access
to reading future timelines. When I
interviewed the eminent statesman and
white house adviser Harold Mamgrren,
this is what he had to say about the
majestic 12 who he believed was tracking
him personally.
>> Your name went in
all the important books of talent
>> that
keeps
>> that that that who keeps
>> CIA.
>> Wow. They not only CIA but you know all
the majestic all these guardians
they also themselves to protect the
world.
>> Malmrren held pieces of a UFO in his
hands directly given to him by head of
the Albuquerque branch of the atomic
energy commission and the eventual
founder of DARPA Lawrence Preston G who
also happens to be Jeff Bezos's maternal
grandfather. Look
>> wow that's amazing. These are things
that have come down.
>> Malmgrren's whole life feels led by
synchronicities dealing with much higher
ups. People like his mentor Richard
Bissell, who founded Area 51 and was
deputy director of the CIA. All of these
synchronicities seemed to lead Malgm to
the ultimate disclosures he made at the
end of his life. Similar to Daniel and
Margaret in Krypto's conundrum, this
majestic 12like committee is brought
together by synchronicities and by
beings that seem to know more about the
individual members of this committee
than they know about each other. In our
interview, Malgrren made it clear that
he had a very important but almost
hermetic purpose. And when I dared to
ask him about the existence of a
timetraveling intelligence agency at the
risk of completely embarrassing myself
in front of this elder statesman, he
went silent.
>> If you ask me, did I have a purpose?
Yes.
>> Now, the Majestic 12 was most famously
written about in a series of documents
anonymously dropped in the hands of
various UFO researchers throughout the
80s and '90s. I personally think many of
these documents were created by longtime
CIA counter intelligence agent James
Jesus Engleton, mainly to catch Soviet
spies. A lot of what's in them is
seductively adjacent to truth rather
than true or just plain false at times.
But there are things about the documents
that line up with real historical dates.
For example, the Foresttoall memo was a
memorandum from Truman to Defense
Secretary James Forestall dated
September 24th, 1947, authorizing him
and Vanavar Bush to proceed with
creating the Majestic 12. Legendary UFO
researcher Stanton Freriedman anchored
this to real history by noting that the
first National Security Council meeting
was held September 26th, 1947,
and it involved Truman, Foresttol,
Sours, and Hillenccoder. a date he
argues aligns perfectly with the
documents own timeline for the Majestic
12's establishment. And the Majestic 12
documents were the first to reveal that
meeting. The other thing I'd say is if
UFOs are real, and by God, it really
seems like they are at this point with
all of these department ward drops,
whistleblowers, all of the evidence
we're now getting, then of course you'd
set up an elite advisory panel, and the
people on the Majestic 12 documents list
would be your top candidates. According
to Chase Brandon, this committee or
group was way more than your
run-of-the-mill advisory panel. Thinking
about cosmic scale problems. Think
Philip K. Dick's adjustment team, which
spawned the Matt Damon movie, The
Adjustment Bureau. Intelligence
operatives that have the power to change
variables in reality itself in order to
alter timelines. Again, this theme shows
up in real modern UFO history. A book I
can't recommend enough, especially to
the mystics out there interested in the
deeper threads of modern ufology, is
Diana Pulka's American Cosmic. One of
her primary sources for that book is
NASA mission controller and NRO
operative Tim Taylor. In the book, Pulka
claims that Taylor was part of a secret
space program involving UFOs. But when
she really pressed him on his job, he
said it involved adjusting timelines,
like the movie The Adjustment Bureau.
>> When I knew Tyler, he was always he was
always talking about time travel.
>> And yeah, whenever a new movie about
time travel would come out, he would go
see it.
>> Like the Adjustment Bureau.
Yeah. Yeah.
>> That's fascinating. He relayed the same
thing to UFO super experiencer Chris
Bledsoe. Taylor also told Bledso's son,
Ryan, that he was part of a secret time
travel group and that mid-century
anti-gravity inventor Thomas Towns and
Brown was the president of it. A
statement I would completely discount if
there wasn't an Amazon review from Towns
and Brown's daughter on Tim Taylor's
obscure autobiography.
This book, Launch Fever, was written
almost 15 years before Diana Pulka's
American Cosmic had ever been written.
So it does seem like there's a
connection between Towns and Brown and
Tim Taylor. And independently, if you
read Towns and Brown's biography, The
Man Who Mastered Gravity by Paul
Shatskin, Brown was constantly saying
that his time travel technology was
taken by a group in Nassau in the
Bahamas. And his daughter is on record
remembering him frequently going to the
Bahamas alongside Church Hill super spy
in the inspiration for James Bond,
William Stevenson. Lo and behold, Tim
Taylor's autobiography is full of trips
to the Bahamas where he cryptically
writes that time moved differently.
Anyways, we are going deep down a rabbit
hole now that is going to be very hard
to get out of if we don't stop now. But
the point is these intelligence
factions, a deep state war, if you will,
related to time isn't just in UFO
fiction. It comes up in real UFO
research. Of course, we can't take all
of this research at face value, but it
is a very real fact pattern that we have
to contend with. There's also a Netflix
show called Dark, and according to Jay
Anderson at Project Unity, a senior
member of the American intelligence
community told him that the show almost
perfectly encapsulates the true UFO
program. In the show, there are two
waring factions in the deep state who
can both manipulate timelines, and they
each want diametrically opposed things.
One wants disclosure, representing the
apocalypse in the show, attempting to
accelerate or hasten it, and the other
wants to hold things back or deter it.
So, you have these groups deep in
intelligence, almost architecting
reality. In Disclosure Day, Hugo
Wakefield is pulling the strings on the
Majestic 12 side of things. Fittingly,
he's calling all the shots and calling
Daniel and Margaret in a staging room
for sets. He's wearing a headset and on
the phone with both protagonists while
he's directing set designers in the
background. It's as if he's manipulating
reality itself. And he literally tells
Daniel and Margaret they are just
hapless passengers in their own lives
who must have faith in his plans for
them. He gets them out of some pretty
tight spots. Always adjusting the
minimal amount of variables for them to
survive. Acting with complete faith they
will. engineering synchronicities and
timelines while debating Colin FTH's
character Noah, his arch nemesis leading
Wardex, who is actively trying to deter
disclosure. In an emotional plea to him,
Wakefield points out that Scanland's
stated reason for holding disclosure
back, social stability, and the idea
that people can't handle the truth is
just a cover for protecting the rich and
powerful. So again, the society in
disclosure day is one in which remote
viewing, sigh warars, and timeline
manipulation are occurring at the
highest level and all terrestrial
politics exists downstream of that.
Fittingly, in the opening scene of the
movie, Daniel and his Wordex capttors
are at a wrestling match. Everyone is
waving American flags and wearing
American flag hats. This symbolizes the
charade that is modern politics and the
deeper wars going on behind the scenes.
You're saying the person is a storage
mechanism and can walk right through any
security system undetected is carrying
all that information in the DNA of a
human.
>> Wa. So it's just fascinating. So it's
almost like we're walking hard drives or
something.
Number four, humans as walking hard
drives and encrypted puzzle pieces.
Margaret Fairchild, Emily Blunt's
character, is the right brain, pure
empathy. Daniel is the left brain, pure
logic, math, and reasoning. Together,
they are encoded with cryptographic
messages downloaded into them when they
were abducted by aliens as kids. They
were lured out of their respective
bedrooms by a troop of friendlylooking
animals. Hansel and Gretle is used as an
analogy for these abductions, which it
also is interestingly by UFO researcher
Carla Turner. In her mind, aliens often
presented a friendly veneer for a more
sinister motive. In this case, the
aliens motive wasn't sinister at all,
they imprinted a message in both to be
decoded when the time was right. Had
they not been compartmentalized from
their own message, they may have acted
too early on it or rashly or may not
have properly integrated the
information. Where do you think a past
civilization if they were trying to make
themselves known? What do you think they
would do? Leave something in a lrronian
point or
>> Well, that's a great question, isn't it?
If you were going to make something
truly enduring, truly enduring. There's
really only two ways to do it. You
either put something out in deep space
where the chances are of it coming into
contact with something are minimal or
biology genetics
>> because genetics is a fingerprint and
that will continue as long as a species
>> survives and finds other places to live.
>> So will that message and you can put a
lot
>> and the beauty about DNA is that it
self-replicates.
>> Yeah. Hugo Wakefield along with acting
as a sort of majestic 12 reality
architect also plays the role of Harvard
psychiatrist John Mack. In the9s Mack
would use holletropic breath work and
hypnotic regressions to recover the
abduction memories of his patients. In
this case, he aids in Margaret and
Daniels, recreating Margaret's childhood
home for her to reexperience her alien
encounter and experience noises,
knowledge of her true soul self and her
purpose on Earth. The key to fulfilling
her purpose in her disclosure mission.
Now, this part isn't even speculation.
We basically know that this whole scene
is inspired by real hypnotic regressions
executed by people like John Mack
because Coleman Domingo, who plays Hugo
Wakefield, basically admitted that. But
here's where I'm going to speculate even
more. Margaret's psychic powers are
reactivated in her apartment by a Red
Cardinal. Now, I could be completely off
base here, but I think Red Cardinal is
actually an homage to the CIA's Project
Bluebird, which was the original name
for its mind control efforts in what
became MK Ultra. Bluebird took its name
from Maurice Metlink's 1908 play, The
Bluebird. The play, like Hansel and
Gretle, revolves around two children
searching for the bluebird of happiness,
questing for answers and moving through
shadow realms and encountering
fantastical creatures and sometimes
scary ones along the way. Former
American alchemist Peter Levender finds
the play deeply meaningful in its hidden
esoteric structure. On the surface, it's
a children's fairy tale. Instead of
finding the bluebird of happiness, every
bird they catch escapes, changes color,
or dies. They wake up on Christmas
morning back in their own cottage and
discovered that their own pet turtle
dove had been blue all along.
The moral like Sedartha or the Alchemist
is that happiness isn't found in distant
exotic places. It's been at home all
along. This also encapsulates the UFO
issue. Searching for the alien artifacts
and UFO crash retrievals are ingredients
for disappointment. Lenda says that the
whole play is an initiatory process like
a masonic initiation laid out in
dramatic form. He says it's a coded
ritual of consciousness transformation
which is precisely why he finds its
connection to a consciousness altering
CIA program significant rather than
coincidental.
Number five, let's get into some real
UFO crashes depicted in this movie. In
Disclosure Day, they show video of the
Roswell wreckage and the Kexsburg UFO
crash. I will say that the craft at
Kexsburg in the movie was incorrectly
portrayed as a flying saucer when in
reality it was shaped like a bell or
acorn. The aliens here are also typical
grays, which Bud Hopkins even said
Spielberg based off of real experience
or testimonies for Close Encounters of
the Third Kind. collection of drawings
very similar to these that date from
actually back into the late 60s and
early 70s that Dr. Alan Heinik uh handed
to Spielberg to use uh for his special
effects. So the those figures in that
movie were based on uh accurate UFO
research.
I think Roswell and Kexsburg crashes
happened and I won't get too deep into
corroborating Roswell because honestly
that deserves its own video. But Army
intelligence officer Jesse Marcel held
the wreckage in his hands, even showing
it to his son. We even have a possible
piece from the crash, which is made of
bismouth, a very important material for
anti-gravity experiments. Go check out
my episodes with Thomas Towns and Brown
and my interview with Bob Lazar if you
want to know more about that.
>> You said bismouth seemed to have come up
like that was something.
>> There is something about bismouth. But I
actually looked at one of these alleged
Roswell pieces with Stanford professor
Gary Nolan. And the godfather of UFO
science himself, Hal Putoff, called in
to tell us about the piece's origins.
>> Story was that it was sent anonymously
by someone claiming to be an army
officer and written in the diary was
that it was a piece from
uh Roswell.
>> The Roswell film depicted in Disclosure
Day is pretty explicit and intense. you
see an injured alien. Was Spielberg
going off of any tips he got from the
inside?
>> I had to base our aliens on what people
have reported who claimed to have had
close encounters to the third kind.
>> The movie also says that the Kexsburg
crash cleanup was overseen by a
civilian. This civilian is likely Dr.
Eric Walker, alleged Majestic 12 member
and president of Penn State. When UFO
researcher Bill Steinman directly asked
Walker about the Majestic 12, he said
he'd known about them for decades. He
also told Steinman that because he
didn't understand extrensory perception,
he was going to be chasing his tail. The
truth is more about a person's
orientation towards the truth. It's not
about learning a little piece of
information. Walker was executive
secretary of the research and
development board in the 1950s. In the
60s, his ordinance research laboratory
at Penn State did Navy underwater
acoustics and weapons work. And as a
university president, he continued to
sit on numerous federal science and
defense advisory bodies, but he was
technically just a civilian and a
civilian rumored to oversee the Kexsburg
crash retrieval in 1965. Penn State was
just a 2 and 1/2 hour drive away from
the crash.
>> The folks we look in now on the
honeymooners are played by Jackie
Gleason and Audrey Mills. Number six,
Joe Rogan's favorite apocryphal UFO
story might be true.
>> Nixon and
Jackie Gleason were drinking and they
were having a good old time and Nixon
was like, "You want to see some shit?"
And uh I want to show you a UFO. This is
the full story. Picture Jackie Gleason
at the height of his fame.
The honeymooners and away we go. The
biggest grin in America. But behind the
showman was a man with an obsession that
bordered on religious. By 1973, Gleason
had built a house in Peak Skill, New
York, shaped like a flying saucer. He
called it the mother ship with curved
walls and a UFO library running to700
books. He'd later subscribed to the UFO
secrecy newsletter, Just Cause,
published by Citizens Against UFO
Secrecy. This wasn't a bit. The funniest
man in America genuinely believed we
were not alone and he wanted more than
almost anything to know.
Enter Richard Nixon. The two were
genuine friends, golf partners, cigar
companions. Gleon had been a longtime
Nixon supporter. And here's the one
piece of this story that is rockolid
documented fact. On February 19th, 1973,
Nixon met Gleason on the 18th green of a
Florida golf course. Everything after
this is where history ends and the
legend begins. As the story goes, Nixon
allegedly turned up at Gleon's door with
no secret service present. The two men
supposedly drove through the night to
Homestead Air Force Base in Florida.
Armed guards escorted Gleon to a
building in a remote part of the base.
Inside, the legend turns genuinely
chilling. Gleon described going into an
inner chamber where there were six or
eight what looked like glass topped Coke
freezers. And inside them there were
mangled remains he first took to be the
bodies of children. Then the initial
horror clarified itself. They were the
imbalmed bodies of four small alien
beings about 2 ft long with small bald
heads and big ears. This is the
emotional core and it's the detail
that's launched a thousand retellings.
Gleon's wife, Beverly, said that around
11:30 p.m. that night, her husband came
home, slumped white-faced into an
armchair, and finally blurted, "I've
been at Homestead Air Force Base, and
I've seen the bodies of some aliens from
outer space. It's top secret. Only a few
people know, but the president arranged
for me to be escorted in there and see
them." The man who made a nation laugh
sat in his own living room, rattled to
his core.
Gleason swore Beverly to secrecy. But
here's where it gets very human. The
marriage didn't last. After their
divorce, Beverly, now Beverly Mkhitrich,
freely discussed the story. And in 1983,
she took it to a tabloid. She gave the
interview to the National Enquirer,
claiming the events happened on February
19th, 1973, recounting exactly what
Gleon told her. She'd reportedly written
the whole saga up in an unpublished
manuscript about Gleason called The
Great One.
Who knows if this story is true. It's
certainly a weird chain of custody, but
Spielberg depicted all of it down to the
core details in Disclosure Day. Maybe
Trump will treat Rogan to a modern
Jackie Gleason experience and show him
the goods. Number seven, the movie
accurately portrays UFO science. When
Margaret Wakefield finishes her
regression, Wex starts to close in on
her, Daniel, and Hugo. So, she grabs
hold of the device, which turns her
entire house and everything in it into a
flaming little firecracker floating in
the air. The holographic principle is
that the lower dimensional boundary like
a 2D surface of a black hole can encode
the 3D information about it. This
principle is often alluded to by UFO
whistleblowers like David Grush.
>> It could be that this is not necessarily
extraterrestrial and it's actually
coming from a higher dimensional
physical space that might be colllocated
right here. It seems like UFOs are
rendered in 3D reality, but are coming
from a higherdimensional space, just
like Margaret, Hugo, and Daniel
collapsing into a little firecracker. In
other cases, UFOs are often seen as 3D
objects that are windows into even
higher dimensional space we can't
conceive of. I cannot show you a
tesseract because I and you are trapped
in three dimensions. But what I can show
you is the shadow in three dimensions of
a four-dimensional hyper cube or
tesseract. This is it. Jacqu Valet even
discusses a case in San Jose that's
typical of this holographic experience
where the UFO appeared much smaller on
the outside than it ended up being on
the inside.
>> When you went inside, you said uh you
know there was this being and the being
took you on a staircase. I say, "Where
did the staircase go?" Well, the
staircase went up the side of this big
round room. They say, "How would you
compare it to?" Well, like a like a
movie house, you know, like an
amphitheater. I I said, "That's bigger
than your house. Why is the inside
bigger than the outside?"
>> UFOs and aliens also seem to engage in
something called signature management.
Basically, they can completely
manipulate our perception of them.
different forms and maybe different
sources.
>> These days since our technology
platforms are
so high to generate effects and uh our
detection platforms are so well advanced
so we could see a lot more. And that's
exactly what Margaret Fairchild does to
escape Wardex. She shows up as past
loved ones in their lives. She even
turns into Noah Scanland's ex-wife. In
other words, she shapeshifts and she
weaponizes her empathy. Finally, there's
a recurring trope in the movie that you
can't quote unquote dive on an
experiencer. You can't remote view them.
It feels too specific to have not come
from an inside source. There's also a
fascinating and clearly deliberate
discrepancy between the Disclosure Day
trailer and what ends up making the cut
in the movie. a discrepancy that
possibly implies that there are a
billion people on Earth that aren't
actually people. The line in the trailer
was 7 billion people have the right to
know the truth,
>> which set everybody off cuz people were
saying either they don't know how many
people are on the planet, which seems
unlikely, or maybe it doesn't take place
in the present, or maybe a billion
people are alien hybrids or whatever.
But isn't it interesting? It's in the
trailer.
and then it's not in the movie. The
final piece of possible truth in
Disclosure Day has been speculated on by
UFO researchers like Chris Ramsay, and
it's a super fascinating question we all
have to ask. Was there a real piece of
physical evidence, perhaps material from
a craft, a video, or a photo of a UFO or
an alien being in this movie that was
actually real? This would be impossible
to deduce, especially in the closing
montage in which all of Wardex's UFO
evidence gets aired live on Margaret
Fairchild's cable news show. There are
so many wild photos and videos of UFO
crashes, alien bodies getting inspected,
UFOs caught on thermal imaging, flying
in a V formation, and diving underwater.
Most of these photos and videos look
pretty abjectly fake. But were any of
them actual UFO material shown in the
movie? It would be a pretty reasonable
reward for America's preeminent alien
movie director who has clearly released
a lot of truth in fiction in the past. I
think the public's urge to know is more
like a right to know. UF ufology could
be considered by some mythology, but
when you look at the consistency of the
reporting, how it it's so consistent for
80 years, you know, um uh you know, I I
am on much firmer ground now certainly
for me to believe that, you know,
they're here.
>> So maybe they gave Spielberg access to
the goods while making his ultimate
Capstone movie.
Disclosure Day started production in
February of 2025, just a few months
after the crazy New Jersey drones flap
of UFOs being seen across the state.
>> The drone drama continues as more
sightings reported over the weekend
across our area.
>> And the movie was filmed in Morris
County, New Jersey, probably only a
halfhour drive from Pikatini Arsenal,
where a lot of the first UFOs were seen.
As you know from previous interviews
we've done, UFOs often show up during
exotic science experimentation, but also
during the handling or transport of UFO
material. This was just a few months
before the filming of Disclosure Day.
Did that movement cause the Jersey drone
UFO flap?
>> Officials with the Federal Aviation
Administration told Pixel 11 News it
received no reports of unusual activity
for the area. Future American Alchemist
and NewsNation reporter Rob Jones has a
very interesting theory. He thinks that
the Loheed Martin UFO that was going to
get transferred to Bigalow Aerospace in
2008, but was actually blocked by the
CIA ended up at Pikatini Arsenal in New
Jersey.
>> I believe the company that currently
holds that material is a company by the
name of Peritin.
>> Okay.
>> Heritin Labs, one of their subsidiaries.
>> Okay. Where are they based?
>> New Jersey.
>> Whoa. Oh, which is where the uh
Disclosure Day Spielberg stuff is being
filmed.
>> Yeah, but it's also where the drone flap
happened.
>> It's also where the drone flap happened.
Yeah.
>> Right. And they have offices at Pikatini
Arsenal.
>> Whoa.
Crazy.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, there you have it. All of the
possible truths hiding in plain sight in
Disclosure Day. There are other more
obvious overlaps with reality, like
depicting a world on the brink of World
War II. Searching for meaning amidst the
decline of religion. experiencers
struggling with their past and
struggling to interact with normies as
you see with Margaret and her boyfriend
and the use of decommissioned Air Force
bases as UFO legacy program operations.
But this is the list that I thought was
most mind-blowing and crosses over with
hardcore UFO research that we and others
in the space have done. Sadly, Steven
Spielberg has turned down an interview
with American Alchemy, so we will never
get a chance to fully nerd out on UFOs
with him unless one of you in the
audience happens to be connected with
him and wants to advocate. But
regardless, he should be celebrated and
congratulated for a legendary and in my
opinion very deep movie. His ultimate
message is that in a fragmented world of
miscommunication, strife, and chaos,
listening and being receptive is what
will keep us alive and what will allow
us to weather the onlogical shock of the
truth when the truth does arrive. That's
probably something we can all agree on.
that in the age of everyone having a
digital soapbox, shouting on social
media, and believing they are worthy of
philosophical axioms on Twitter and
other platforms, we could all use a
little humility, a little quiet and
genuine intake of each other's points of
views. If there is a prime directive and
the aliens are waiting for certain
conditions to arrive and interact with
humanity, I'd think that that might be
one of them. The final question this
movie asks is what side will you choose?
Uncomfortable truth or convenience,
individual enlightenment or
institutional stability, self-interest
or that of the whole? That is perhaps
the most real thing about this entire
movie. The choice is yours and all of
ours. Until next time, my name is Jesse
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