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>> What's up? What's going on? What's
happening?
>> Chaos. I love it.
>> Everything.
>> Yeah. The world's crazy.
>> Center of the storm. I think I think the
world's back at war today again. Like
officially,
>> right?
>> I don't know. I don't think that
agreement with Iran lasted at all.
>> Which one?
>> I think there's there was bombings today
in Lebanon and I think there's bombings
today in American bases.
>> I try to not pay attention, dude. I
really do. I try to distract myself with
science stuff and space. Uh, I was
watching this documentary yesterday on
how they make chips, like how they make
like semiconductor chips. Dude, this
[ __ ] machine that they use. I'm going
to send you this, Jamie, because it's
bananas. It's like one of the most
complex machines in the world. And this
this machine they use to make
semiconductors, make chips. And they
were explaining the process of making
these chips, how [ __ ] nuts it is,
man. the the amount of atoms that are
stacked on and like the way they do it
to make these like super complex
high-end chips. There's people out
there, Tony, that are doing things way
different than us. Okay? We're out there
talking about sucking dicks and
people [ __ ] themselves. And what's
going on in other parts of the world is
people are doing science fiction. like
they're they're actually doing science
fiction. Uh here it is. Give me a
second. I uh like to save things. Here
it is. The world's most important
machine.
>> It's the one that's an hour long.
>> Yes. Did you find it?
>> Yeah. Just an hour long.
>> Yeah. But go just go to the There's some
animation where they show how they make
these things. Like it was right where
you were at.
>> This is right at the beginning.
>> Yeah. Okay. Oh, okay. So, they're just
showing some of the um the different
aspects of how these things are made.
Look, go back to where that guy had the
laser beam. That's perfect, actually,
where that guy had the laser beam. So,
this is him explaining this. So, look at
this. Back it up a little bit and give
me some volume.
>> Can you back it up a little bit, please?
>> I want to introduce it to you with a
thought experiment. Imagine
you are shrunk down to the size of an
end and you're given a laser that's
strong enough to melt through metal like
butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten
tin, roughly the size of a white blood
cell, is shot out in front of you around
250 km hour. And your task is to hit
this not once, not twice, but three
times in a row in 20 microsconds with
your little laser. Well, that is exactly
what this machine does. It hits one tiny
tin droplet three times in a row,
heating each one up to over 220,000
Kelvin. That's roughly 40 times hotter
than the surface of the sun. And it
doesn't just hit one droplet. It hits
50,000 droplets every single second.
>> How often do you miss a laser shot?
>> We don't miss them.
>> What? You do 150,000 laser shots a
second and you don't miss one.
>> Exactly. The same machine also contains
mirrors that might just be the smoothest
objects in the universe. If you scale
one up to the size of the Earth, then
the largest bump would be no thicker
than a playing card.
>> On top of that, it is able to overlay
one layer of a chip perfectly on top of
another and never be off by more than
five atoms. And this is all happening
while parts of the machine whip around
at accelerations of over 20 GS. For 30
years, almost everyone thought that
actually building this machine was
impossible. And yet, it exists. There is
only one company in the world that can
make it. So, what is this company? And
what is this impossible machine they've
built? This video is
>> There you go.
>> That's it.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> What are they doing with that?
>> All computers, like computer chips that
are getting better and better and
better. All these AI chips. This is how
they make One interesting thing I can
just add, I know when they make those,
they make like a big sheet of chips, you
know?
>> Mhm.
>> Like there'll be like 30 or 50 of them.
They'll test each one in the ones that
are the best, but test like one out of
100. The ones that are like closest to
100 become like the i9 chip. And if it's
like uh 85 out of 100, it becomes like
the i7 chip. So they all come off the
same sheet. Like the best ones become
the best chips. They sell them for the
most money.
>> The next ones are just a little
degraded.
>> No kidding. Interesting.
So where there was that issue with that
Samsung chip factory and it was about
they weren't getting the results that
they wanted. So it's probably they were
getting more of the shitty chips
>> and not enough of the perfect
>> chips. They want really high-end chips
and it's the real
>> you can smoke. We have a fan in here,
dude.
>> Sweet.
>> Um yeah. Uh, I mean, imagine if
everybody died
and it was just us in this room and
there was like three late Well, be more
than that. We'd have to have more
people. Otherwise, we're going to [ __ ]
up the gene pool. We're all going to
look like the English royals. We need We
probably need a few thousand people. A
few thousand people like regular people
like you and I that don't know [ __ ]
about how these things work.
>> Yeah.
>> How much time would we need if we
repopulated the earth with what we know?
Basically, you're starting out like a
[ __ ] like a halfass prepper, you
know, like someone who's on an episode
of Lost, you know, like a one of those
plane crash people trying to figure out
how to survive out there. You're [ __ ]
>> Oh, yeah.
>> You're not inventing that.
>> Uh-uh.
>> How long is it going to take?
>> Infinity.
>> And how many people have to pave the
way? This is the thing. For every one of
these people that makes uh an invention
like this, you're making this on the
back of thousands and thousands and
thousands of [ __ ] super geniuses that
have figured out each and every step of
the way that can lead you to thinking,
is this possible that we could do this
next? You know, they all build on each
other. So, you need all these guys and
hopefully they don't get any [ __ ]
because otherwise they're going to get
distracted,
>> you know? Well, I bet if one of them
gets a hot wife, like one of their
patents kicks and they they start making
bank and then all a sudden he shows up
for work in a Ferrari and next you know
he's got a hot wife. Everybody's like,
"Oh my god."
>> Yeah. Civilization just went back 100
200 years.
>> We're going to lose Tim.
>> Yeah.
>> Tim Tim's taking Adderall, coding 18
hours a day trying to figure out how to
get us to Mars. Actually, that's a bad
point because Elon clearly gets [ __ ]
and doesn't seem to be affecting him at
all.
>> I think Elon's different.
>> He's definitely different.
>> Yeah. I mean, some people are different,
different different.
>> It's fascinating how many people want to
find flaws in what he's doing
>> instead of just looking at this like,
wow, this is an extraordinary time to be
alive. But it's because of this
narrative that people have. uh one of
them the big one is this US aid is
killing people narrative that people
have died because of US aid then a bunch
of people have given examples of how uh
them cutting the funding has led to the
end of certain people's lives like where
they were in hospitals that didn't have
any funding and there's a lot of that
that you could point to say right if
they had the money they would have had
the funding and they would have had that
equipment in place or maybe they
wouldn't have but here's the other thing
that's not discounting the fact that a
lot of that money is fraud.
>> Yeah.
>> A lot of it. Like it's not a little
amount. And the idea that you should let
it go on because it's going to save
lives and there's a bunch of people that
are stealing money. Okay, I see that
argument. But why are we sending them
money in the first place? Like wh what's
Did we do something to them? Do we owe
them money? No. Okay, we're just being
nice. Are you sure we're just being
nice? Is there anybody profiting of us
off of us being nice? Cuz usually just
being nice for no reason and just giving
tax money away for no reason. I don't
think they do that. I don't think that's
real. I used to think that was real. I
used to think that charity was real. And
now I look at I go, "Oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. This is a giant scam that's
wrapped up in virtue. It's wrapped up in
a nice cozy blanket of being kind and
compassionate and virtuous and doing
good things for people all around the
world." I think a lot of people get
involved in those things because that's
what they think. We're going to do good
things around the world. They're good
people. I really believe that. And then
they find out how it really works and
then they get stuck in that system and
then they're making their way up their,
you know, air quotes corporate ladder to
the point where some of them are making
a million dollars a year and you're
like, what is this?
>> Yeah.
>> What is this? This is a business. This
isn't really charity. Most of the money
is going to your employees and your
overhead and your why do you have such a
big building? Like what are you doing?
How come you're not just funneling the
money to these people?
>> Exactly.
>> What? Like the LA fire aid. Yeah. Great
example. Spencer Pratt told me how many
what number did he say of nonprofits got
that money? So over a hund00 million
gets raised. I don't know the exact
total.
All of it goes to these different
nonprofits. I think he said 200
different nonprofits got the money.
>> Yeah.
>> So and then what happens to that? Well,
they just pay their employees. They pay
overhead. They pay their rent on [ __ ]
nice office on wherever they live.
>> Mhm.
>> [ __ ] man. It's so disheartening because
you you've so that's what all that stuff
is and it's also if you listen to it
when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a
few times and explains us a
people think of it as aid you think of
it as oh we're helping the world which
is great right but it's not that it's
the agency for international development
and it involves funding rap bands
overseas that are uh the subversive rap
bands that are supposed to uh excite
people to take over the government.
There's like a bunch of like weird [ __ ]
funds rebels. It it funds newspapers.
And what was he talking about? Like the
there was a lot of it like funding rap
music.
Like this is crazy. People have
long said that rap music even though
listen you love hip-hop. I know you just
got back from Kanye West. I'm a huge
hip-hop fan.
>> We got to talk about that at some point.
>> We definitely do. I love hip-hop. Um,
but there's some people that believe
that gangster rap in particular when it
came about in the 1980s was a part of a
the push to popularize it and produce it
was a a part of the government. some
faction of the government, some faction,
some intelligence agencies, wanting to
create more crime, wanting to fill more
private prisons, wanting to erode the
fabric of society so they could push for
more laws to keep you safer. This is
like the one of the most tinfoily of
tinfoil hat conspiracies. But people are
pointing out that right now it's like
one of the rare times where no rap music
is on the charts.
>> Yeah. And they're saying, well, how does
this coincide with US A? Was US A like
actively promoting rap music? Was that
one of the reasons why rap music was so
poss?
>> Is that real? That can't be real.
>> Maybe back in the day. It seems like
that would be more manipulative. I I
don't see how.
>> I believed that until I heard mumble rap
and I'm like, this makes this is not
real. This is trying to make people
stupid.
>> Yeah. There's there's something about
this, you know, and obviously some
artists are better at it than other.
Some of them are fun the way they do it,
>> but I'm saying there's a giant chunk of
them that are inaudible.
>> You don't know what like who's who's
into this?
>> Oh, almost all of them are inaudible.
>> Like what what's going on there? Imagine
if like that was it. It was like uh
people heard Nas and like this guy's too
smart. Uh we got to dumb it down a
little. We got to promote some people
that could barely talk.
>> Yeah. We got to promote some people that
are on cough syrup apparently.
>> Yeah,
>> that's the Have you ever done that cough
cough syrup?
>> No.
>> They seem to love it.
>> Yeah.
>> A lot of dudes who are into that that
cough syrup, man. They they swear by it.
>> It's crazy. It's got to be fun. It's got
to be enjoyable.
>> Is it codine? Is that what they're
doing?
>> I think so.
>> Have you done it, Jamie?
Bro, we talked about this before, but I
remember um back in the 90s I got a hold
of some Nyquil, the real Nyquil. Like I
guess they changed the formula for
Nyquil and uh I had you know whatever
the flu or something and I took some
Nyquil and I was laying in bed and I was
like this is wonderful. Yeah,
>> it was wonderful. like the just the
warmth, the softness of the pillows and
the warmth of the bed with the covers
over me like, "Oh, this is wonderful."
And I remember thinking, "Oo, this is
dangerous."
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Like, this is a dangerous feeling.
Because if your life was [ __ ] and you
found that like that's better than
anything else that's happening in your
life.
>> Yeah.
>> And you can get it at CVS.
>> Crazy. Crazy.
>> Who was in the old Nyquil
>> before they switched it?
I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm
afraid of medicine.
>> So, this stuff probably was like sitting
in my house if I took it. So, it might
have even been older than 97 or 98
whenever this was that I was sick. But
I'll never forget it cuz then I never
get like getting scared like I could
love this. Like I could just drink this
during the day and just like sit on my
back porch if I have the day off.
>> Yeah.
>> Just get obliterated with Nyquil and
just enjoy the universe. I told you
about that time I took a half of the
pain pill that the dentist gave me for
my wisdom tooth. I was like, "Oh, [ __ ]
This is lifechanging."
>> It says, "The earliest Nyquil formula
include Ephadrin, which is a
decongestant, docam,
doc, docyamine,
sisinate, which is an antihistamine,
acetaminophen,
dextro
methorphan, cough suppressant, and about
25% alcohol." Mhm.
>> Oh, I was getting drunk, too.
>> Mhm.
>> Wow. Um, what changed the mid-200s after
the combat methamphetamine at There it
is. They removed pseudo epidurine. So,
was that the stuff? So, it wasn't
coding. But is there I think there is
Nyquil with coding though, right?
>> What I had was pretty good. I don't
think it was as simple.
>> Yeah. You had the stuff they could make
mess out of or whatever.
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay, we'll put it in
perplexity
and perplexity says in the mid 20ou.
Yeah, Nyquil brands sold in the US do
not contain codin and there's never been
a standard Vix Nyquil with codin in its
active ingredient lineup. Typical Nyquil
form. So codin. So does any cough syrup
have codin in it?
>> That's what lean is. So you're talking
about
>> they add it
>> or is it just prescription cough syrup?
>> That was the whole thing about it.
Maybe I am [ __ ] up my memory and
maybe it wasn't Nyquil cuz whatever it
was. It seems like
>> you get [ __ ] up off Nyquil but you
have to drink like the whole bottle. You
get Nyquil like just get [ __ ] up.
>> I definitely didn't drink the whole
bottle. I I know I took a dose
like a strong dose.
>> I mean you're just getting [ __ ] up off
25% alcohol and a little bit of a
>> maybe
>> a little bit of side mess.
>> See the thing is it's so long ago I
can't remember. I say Nyquil because
it's like saying Q-tips.
>> Yeah. you know, or Kleenex just because
it's tissues or ear swabs. I don't know
if it was Nyquil, but it was cough
syrup, whatever the [ __ ] it was. And I
felt wonderful. And I remember thinking
like, this could be a real problem.
>> Like that one day in bed, cuz I'm always
scared of stuff like that. I'm always
scared to get I knew too many people
when I was growing up that got hooked on
stuff. Yeah.
>> And it just derailed their life. So
lying in bed, I was like, "Oh, you're
going to do this again. No more this."
>> Right.
>> I like it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I got a knee surgery once. They
gave me morphine. They made morphine in
a drip.
>> And they say that you can only hit that
button so many times it stops giving to
you. Yeah. But every time you feel pain,
you can just hit the button cuz I was on
like a perpetual motion machine. Yeah.
>> So my legs going and I'm just bang bang
bang bang.
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closest I come to that because I've
never had like a serious surgery or
anything, but I go to this uh they have
a dental office here in Austin called
the Austin Dental Spa. So their whole
thing is like a luxurious
dental experience and they will hook you
up to laughing gas and they let you like
if they're like they're like you want a
little more and I'm like okay yeah and
that's like the closest I get to it is
once every 6 months or so I go there and
dude I'm always excited about this
[ __ ] experience. It is so awesome.
>> Do you ever come up with bits after
doing laughing gas to give you any
ideas? No, but during the thing it makes
me weirdly honest. You ever seen in Kill
Bill when he shoots her in the knee with
the honest gun cuz he was a chemist for
like a living is like his secret job. So
he comes up with this truth serum and
I've noticed that it makes me like
weirdly very honest. So one time when I
was in the dental office, the guy's
doing whatever and I'm like and I'm
jacked on laughing gas cuz it's not
really you're not really like cracking
up. you're just like in heaven and
you're like it's kind of smiling ear to
ear. And I remember going like how long
did you go to school for dental school?
And he's like whatever the answer is
like 8 years. And I'm like did you ever
think about going longer and becoming a
real doctor? And then I and I realized
like kind of in the moment even though I
was [ __ ] up like that's that sounds
mean but I think they're totally used to
it. I think they know that laughing gas
makes people [ __ ]
>> I bet they're not used to that dude.
That's so mean. It's not supposed
that's what I'm saying is it's like a
dangerous
>> a real doctor
>> a dangerous truth serum.
>> Some people want to be dentists.
>> Yeah,
>> we need them too.
>> Yeah,
>> you know
>> crazy gig.
>> Yeah,
>> it's a weird one.
>> I know. Imagine how much bad breath they
smell
>> and just weird things lodged in teeth
for God only knows how long. When I got
my root canal, um, one of the reason why
I had to get it is cuz, uh, I had a cap
on my tooth or a a filler, whatever it
is. What's it called?
>> Fillings.
>> No, the when they just fill your tooth
up. Why? Why can't I remember?
>> Filling.
>> Fillings. Why did I say filler?
Whatever.
>> Yeah. Uh, it was old school one, you
know? It was like white plastic. And
when I was a kid, I used to have them.
They were like [ __ ] lead. They used
to give you lead fillings, which is
crazy. Like kids had lead in their
mouth.
Um, and it was hurting. It was bothering
me. So, what had happened was uh I had
cracked the tooth and it had gotten
infected underneath the uh filling. So,
he takes the filling out and drills into
it and the smell
>> that came out of my mouth. It was so It
was pus. All this pus came out and this
[ __ ] horrific smell.
>> I was like, "Oh my god, is that coming
out of my mouth?"
>> Yeah. He's like, "Oh, that's normal.
It's decay.
There's an infection under here. We're
going to treat it. You're going to be
fine."
>> Yeah. Piece of elk from seven years ago.
>> This is a long time ago. This is a long
time ago. It was before I was hunting, I
think.
>> But it was uh I you know, people die
from that stuff, which is really crazy.
Like, if you don't take care of your
teeth and you get that kind of
infection, those kind of infections can
become septic.
>> Yeah. Well, it's nuts. Sometimes I'll do
a thing where I'll water floss after I
brush my teeth just to see what would
have been left in there if I just did
what normal humans do cuz high pressure
water flossers that I [ __ ] love.
Complete game changer for life. And it's
insane what will jet out of there with
gets stuck deep in between the teeth and
everything. And you know I think you're
I would for the most part I do it before
I brush but every once in a while I'll
be like I wonder if there's anything
left in there you know. Yeah, you have
to floss. You're gonna get a bunch of
[ __ ] stuck in there.
>> But
>> and even then, sometimes I'll regular
floss and then brush my teeth and just
out of curiosity go, I wonder if there's
anything left in there. And I'll do a
one silver with a water flosser and you
see like ding ding ding, three little
things come out. It's like that would
have marinated
>> in between my teeth or in the back of my
gum line or whatever.
>> Yeah, that's not good. But according to
my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar. He
thinks if you go back and you look at
like when people started developing
serious cavities, it's the people have
always had abscesses and broken teeth
and there's always been like dental
problems that haunted people because
back in the day, man, they just pull the
tooth out and then who knows what kind
of infection you still have in there and
they don't treat it. In the 1700s, if
you broke your tooth and got an
infection, you could be [ __ ] dead,
you know? You could die from that [ __ ]
But he was saying that the the amount of
cavities like steeply increased when
people started putting sugar and
everything and then kids started
drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary
candy and that stuff gets stuck in your
teeth. It's like I think that's the
cause of it.
>> Yeah. And probably high fructose corn
syrup's probably just as bad or if not
worse than actual sugar.
>> That stuff's not good for your body.
That's for sure. Your body doesn't like
it. Someone explained to me what's the
difference in the absorption of high
fructose corn syrup versus natural cane
sugar. I completely forget how they
explained it, but they were they were
basically saying that there's some
issues with how the body breaks it down.
>> Well, when you drink a soda, just think
about that. Where in nature do you get
20 grams of sugar just in liquid form
and you just pump it downug?
Ah, refreshing.
>> Crazy. My buddy that I uh went to school
with just flew in from Hawaii, which is
where he's lived for like 20 years. He's
like he's like a wilderness guy. Climbs
trees and cuts down his own pineapples
and coconuts and stuff all the time.
He's he's got a great life. And um he uh
he checked a bag this trip just a few
days ago. Um and he brought it to the
mother ship because that's where we met
up. And he surprised me with this
checked bag that was like that had the
moldings built in and everything. It had
four coconuts and two white Hawaiian
pineapples, I think they're called,
which like run like $65 each or
something in the US. Like it's
impossible to get. And um according to
him, I don't know. Uh he's a real
hippie- dippy type.
>> Is that the dude that you brought to the
mother?
>> Yeah, Anthony. Yeah.
>> Your friend from high school, which is
crazy.
>> Yeah, he's the he's the man. He's just a
real dude.
>> That's crazy when you know people for
that long.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so this dude is
just living in Hawaii, living his best
life.
>> And I I mean, holy [ __ ] these [ __ ]
pineapple. He's like, "Dude, you're
going to love this pineapple. Pineapple.
Pineapple." He just kept going on about
it. I'm like, "All right, okay." Sure
enough. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] man. It's
nature can deliver you a sugar dose cuz
he was saying that white Hawaiian
pineapples have higher sugar but much
lower acidity
>> than what we're used to. So it makes a
whole different and since obviously it's
natural sugar and this and that. It just
makes a whole different type of [ __ ]
fruit. It's crazy.
>> Sounds good.
>> Wild how we have to go other places to
get unbelievable [ __ ]
>> Well, of course Hawaii.
>> Yeah,
>> Hawaii really should be its own country.
>> Yeah,
>> I listen. I love Hawaii. I'm glad
they're protected by the United States.
People are cool as [ __ ] It should be
its own country. It's 5 hours by plane.
>> I mean, come on, man. Yeah,
>> white pineapples primarily known as
sugarloaf or white jade pineapples.
>> Highly prized rare variety grown in
Hawaii. Unlike standard yellow, they
feature creamy white flesh, particularly
uh practically no acidity and a complex
completely edible core.
>> It was great.
>> And [ __ ] he climbs a goddamn tree
>> like a little [ __ ] monkey boy. Normal
little white dude.
>> How did he wind up in Hawaii? Uh, he's a
real free spirit. He always was. I think
he just went out there, visited, and
stayed. He's the kind of guy that just
gets a one-way ticket places, and
figures it out as he goes. He's in
Youngstown right now. That shows you how
adventurous and crazy he is. He's like,
I'm going to spend a week and a half
there. I'm like, a week and a half in
Youngstown.
>> Why is he doing that?
>> Visit family and friends? He said,
>> is there a good hotel to stay at in
Youngstown?
>> No. And I even had to look this up
recently because I'm like, I'm not
staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed
at last time I was there. So I'm like,
best hotel in Youngsttown. And the
funniest thing is the actual closest
option was in Pennsylvania, like 50
minutes away. Truly, I mean, there's one
like Double Tree downtown, but it's in
an area of absolute chaos. I mean, just
death wish.
>> Do you ever go back there and go, I
can't believe I grew up here?
>> Always. 100% of the time. I got a
feeling for it immediately when I went
to LA and I didn't hear police sirens
anymore, like as often at least. You
know what I mean?
>> Isn't that funny? Like LA with LA's
crime.
>> That's what I always thought. I'm like,
"Oh, this is going to be crazy. I've
heard these Tupac songs. Like, this is
going to be nuts." And it was
>> That was US A.
>> So peaceful. Yeah, exactly.
So peaceful. In Youngstown, at least
when I was growing up there, you could
hear a police siren or an ambulance
siren almost at any point of the day.
>> God,
>> my buddy sent me a shirt recently, too.
Another one buddy um that has the stats
on it of us being the murder capital. I
think it was 90, 91, and 96 per capita.
Not the biggest population,
but per capita, it was the most
dangerous place you could be. when I was
in those most developmental years when a
kid shouldn't be having his head next to
the window. Yeah, there it is. I got
that shirt.
>> Wow.
>> Fourtime defending champion, murder
capital of America.
>> Wow.
>> Yep. In 01 02. That puts me as a
sophomore and junior in high school.
>> 9597. I'm 112.
>> And you're being raised by your mom.
>> Yeah. on the north on the craziest
[ __ ] area of the whole goddamn thing.
The most dilapidated part of the north
side of Youngtown.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. I can't believe it. That's why
like every part of my [ __ ] story I'm
like, "This is so goddamn weird." So
weird.
>> It is when you think about it, right?
When you really stop and think about it,
it doesn't seem real. 60 years ago, this
Ohio city was named Crime Town, USA.
>> Yep. Crime Town
>> 75 bombings.
>> Yep.
>> Oh, this was the mob days.
>> Yeah.
>> So, it used to be a mob run town, right?
>> Totally.
>> They were called bomb town.
>> Yeah. It was a Youngstown tuneup is a
car bomb.
>> Look at this. 75 bombings,
11 killings in a decade, and no one
seems to care.
>> They were so nuts in Youngstown that
somebody tried to kill the actual
prosecutor, the actual DA. Oh, isn't
that normal that they always try to do
that?
>> Well, it's kind of the stupidest,
craziest thing you could do because then
the entire FBI comes down on you. It's a
little shortsighted to go, "Ah, we're
going to kill the main cop of this city
and not think that anything's going to
happen from that. Well, we beat the
game. We beat the main cop."
>> Imagine trying to be an intelligent
businessman and also a mob leader.
Imagine like planning things out in
advance and but also you're a mob
leader.
>> There was a lot of that going on and I
got to see quite a bit of it. Like there
were uh let's put it this way mall
developers in Youngstown and things like
that. And I got to see firsthand very
young that they were communicating with
politicians at lunchtime and stuff
because I was working at this little
Italian restaurant at the time right out
of high school. and um and having they
were having these quiet meetups in a
quiet in the corner of a quiet Italian
restaurant and you would see these huge
moguls, you know, I won't name any
names, but big business people in
Youngstown meeting with the local this
and that and congressmen. I got to meet
that congressman and that congressman
because they're there meeting with these
super duper rich people. And I'm like, I
wonder what the correlation is there,
>> bro. Back then when there was no cell
phones
>> Yeah. And you know, they had to bug
people. They have to They had to
literally bug businesses to get
information.
>> Like they were all doing something.
>> Oh yeah.
>> You couldn't be involved in any big time
business if you weren't down with the
Teamsters. If you weren't down with the
Long Shoreman,
>> you had to you had to We got TO WORK
THIS OUT, BOBBY.
We're businessmen.
>> That's That's how you did the business.
>> Give a little money to their campaign.
Not a little, but a bit. And then you
can get your stuff passed and make life
easier down the road.
>> Dude, I had friends that had no show
jobs.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I had a friend of mine that had a
no-show job in New York at the Javit
Center.
>> You know, the Javit Center is like a big
convention center.
>> He had a union no-show job.
>> Wow.
>> So, he was a mob guy.
>> Yeah.
>> And they they just gave him money.
>> I only get a free check on the Sopranos.
They had those no-show construction
jobs. They're sitting there with their
portable fans. Yeah. No, that's real,
dude. That is a real thing.
>> Yeah.
>> There's They get a certain amount of
jobs. Like they would make agreements.
Like the union would make an agreement.
We get a certain amount of these jobs.
There's like, you know,
>> it's crazy.
>> There's really a hundred jobs, but we
want 130.
Uh, Youngstown was uh a haven for
organized crime related corruption was
ingrained into the fabric of its
society. A 2000 publication, New
Republic, listed a chief of police, the
outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the
county engineer, members of the local
police force, a city law director,
several defense attorneys, politicians,
judges, and a former assistant US
attorney as controlled by the mob.
>> So if they have that, if they found that
for sure, imagine how many others there
are,
>> right? That's everybody. That's
everybody. the prosecutor, the sheriff,
the county engineer, the police force,
city law director, defense attorney.
Imagine not being down with the mob.
Like, do you want to stay alive? Like,
do you want to work in this business?
>> Right. And this is a city. I think we
looked it up the other day, actually. I
think it only has 25,000 white people.
>> So, knowing that black people tend to
not be in the Italian mob, just going
off of 25,000,
and that's current. I don't know what it
was back in the day, but the point is is
like it's not a big city.
It's not I think 50 60,000 half or less
white. So
>> there's Tony.
>> Yeah,
>> there's little Tony watching pro
wrestling.
>> Oh yeah, pro wrestling. And even then I
was obsessed with Good Fellas and a
Bronx Tale and a Godfather because it's
like it's just what you're taught is
humanity. Like that's life.
>> Yeah.
So getting out of that and going to LA
and thinking it was going to be all it's
going to be crazy gangs and stuff and
it's just quiet. Granted, I started in
Burbank, which is a [ __ ] television
studio essentially. But when I moved to
New Jersey and I didn't have any money
when I first moved to New York, I I
couldn't afford to live in New in New
York City or I didn't even have an
apartment. I stayed with my grandparents
cuz my grandfather lived in New Jersey
in New York. And um he bought a house
there in I think it was like the 1940s
and they did a thing called
blockbusting. Do you know what
blockbusting is? They would go to door
to door and they would say black people
are moving into the neighborhood. You
got to sell now. And everybody sold. It
used to be an entirely Italian
neighborhood.
>> Uh and he was like I like black people.
Get the [ __ ] out of here. And he kept
his house but it was like one of very
few families that stayed. And then black
people moved out. And then they started
getting like different people, Spanish-
speakaking people, like Dominicans and a
bunch of other. And that's how it was
when I stayed with them. So this is like
nu 91. Yeah, I was three years in the
comedy, so it's probably 91. And uh
while I was living with them, the next
door neighbor's house got broken into by
the cops. The DEA smashed down his door.
The dude had an Audi parked in a
driveway. He was selling crack like
right next door to my grandpa.
>> Wow. The whole neighborhood was just
nuts, dude. Like he would get really
nervous when I would leave. Like I would
leave to go play pool somewhere and he
like be careful. Like it was [ __ ]
sketchy.
>> Yeah.
>> But it didn't used to be like when he
first moved there. It was just an all
Italian neighborhood.
>> Yep.
>> Real estate people even back like what a
dirty thing to do.
>> Scare people into moving. That's
probably the first project of US Aid.
That's probably
>> Yeah.
They probably got real estate people to
destroy neighborhoods.
>> There's something to it. I don't know
the correlation of Italian neighborhoods
being taken over, not taken over, but
whatever by black people like the mobrun
cities like Youngstown, like Chicago,
like Detroit. Um,
it's an interesting anomaly. I wonder if
there's any correlation between the
things. Well, you know, most of the
Italians that came in the early 20th
century were very poor. You know, they
were all coming over here for labor or
jobs and things along those lines. And
um you know, when they started doing
better, they you know, they started
moving out and moving into the suburbs
and moving into you know, more
gentrified areas. It's always what are
the new immigrants that are going to
come and take over this area that was
like formerly a lowincome Italian
neighborhood or a lowincome Irish
neighborhood. It's the same thing. Like
there's cycles, you know.
>> It's like there's cycles in fighting
too. Like in the early 20th century,
there's a lot of Jewish fighters like
Slappy Maxi Rosen Bloom. You never heard
of him, right? Some very good Jewish
fighters. um because they were poor and
there were the the new immigrants, you
know, and this is like before World War
II. And then in and even afterwards
there was some but then you get
Italians, you get a lot of Italians, get
Rocky Marciano, Rocky Gratziano, there's
a lot of like uh Jake Lamada, there's a
lot of these like Italian bad
[ __ ] because they were poor.
>> Yeah. And then what happened? Then you
got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of,
you know, it's always like who's the new
immigrants,
>> right?
>> And who are the most hungry, come from
the most povertyridden areas. Like
Roberto Duran came from a terrible part
of Panama. Like not terrible, but I mean
like very poor, very violent.
>> Yeah.
>> And he was one of the baddest
[ __ ]
>> Boom. Manini was right down the street.
>> Yep. Yeah. I mean, Youngstown's known
for boxing.
>> Yeah. Kelly Pav. Kelly Pavick, who's
been on the podcast. He's awesome.
>> Yeah,
>> he was a beast, dude.
>> Oh, man.
>> That fight with him and Germaine Taylor
won. Sometimes I still rewatch the end
of that to
>> How did he survive?
>> Give me a burst of energy.
>> I mean, how did he make it through that?
That was a crazy I mean, he got dropped.
He looked like it looks like the fight
was over. And then when he's got him in
the corner and he rocks him
>> and you you go, "No way. He's coming
back. This is crazy." Easy.
>> This Did you watch uh the fights this
weekend? Geron Boot Boots Enis and I
forget the the dude he was fighting.
>> No, I was at that concert. I missed it.
>> Boots is very good. And for the most
part, he beat his ass. But the third
round he got rocked. The third round was
incredible cuz he the kid he was
fighting, who's the gentleman that he
was fighting, Jamie?
>> Zas.
>> Zas. Yeah. Young kid. He uh got dropped
in the second round like pretty bad.
Boots is very good. He's like one of the
best boxers alive. And then the third
round, the kid came back and rocked
Boots and it was just a war. Just the
third round was incredible. Boots wound
up stopping him. I think he stopped him
in like the seventh or the eighth round.
Uh he just dropped him one last time and
the the re the corner called it. It was
enough. Like he was getting his ass
kicked, but he was very very valiant,
you know. It was a really good fight.
Like Boots is better than him. Like
clearly he's like he's on another level,
but this kid showed just tremendous
heart. But it's like that third round
was just coming back from getting
dropped in the second. Like those kind
of moments where a guy's getting [ __ ]
up like like the Gachi Tapora fight.
>> Yep.
>> Perfect example.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> That's when it's really a fight.
>> A a real fight cuz Toporia was on him in
that second round,
>> man. We were so close. They were in They
were You could hear it.
>> They Oh, you could really You could feel
it where I was, man. And you know,
obviously we're always close to the cage
on those things, but then when gate when
Turia was landing those body shots, it
was right against our side of the fence,
and I'm literally like, "Oh my." I mean,
holy [ __ ] [ __ ] man. And I've seen a
lot of people get ripped to the body
before, but there is something about his
close range strength in near that
clinch, that close up [ __ ] range of
Elia that is scary.
>> He's so good, dude. He's so good and
he's so precise. He just tried to like
ch I always repeat this because Chail
Son said it was perfect. If you try to
win by knockout and fail, you won't win
a decision.
>> Yeah. And sometimes you just run out of
gas because like you're not supposed to
fight like that if you think that the
fight's going to go five rounds. Like
Ilia had him hurt and he's like, I can
take him out. But Justin's so durable,
man. He's so durable. And that left hook
to the body, the sound of it, man, is
just whip. It's so perfect. He throws
perfect punches. His punches are just I
mean even Justin said it in the
postfight interview like when he's fresh
his skills are unmatched. Like that's a
crazy thing to say to a guy you just
beat up and made stop. He stopped him in
the fourth round.
>> Yeah,
>> that's crazy to say like his skills are
unmatched. But they really are.
>> Every point of that I'm at every point
of that anybody I think that knows
anything about those two fighters is
going until this is stopped. Anybody can
win this. Like even when his face was
blown up and his eyes looked black and
closed.
>> Mhm.
>> Until that air horn rings, I'm like
anything. One punch. And we've seen it
even with Gachi. You saw it with
Holloway, right? Was it him? Who did he
square up with in the middle?
>> Holloway. Yeah.
>> Yes. Hit him with that final punch.
>> One chin. One with one second left. It
can all be over.
>> Yeah. That was a little different in
that Holloway caught him with a jump
spinning back kick to the face in the
very last seconds of the first round and
broke the bone of his nose.
>> Um, we talked about it on the podcast
and I was like that changed that fight
because before that Gatei was pressing
him and it looked very competitive and
it looked like maybe Gachi had a slight
advantage but that's cuz Max Max's very
clever, very clever fighter. like he's
always switching stances and moving and
you know really hadn't showed that
spinning back kick a lot that hadn't
been a feature in a lot of his fights.
He did it a few times but to for to for
him to land it that way backing up jump
to the face I mean it was perfect.
>> Yeah,
>> it was perfect. And his nose was [ __ ]
And if you're fighting with a broken
like a broken bone on your face every
time you're getting hit you're getting
just blasted.
>> Yeah.
>> You're the pain is insane. And then, you
know, he had, you know, he was a step
behind Max. Max is teeing off on him. He
landed some good shots, though, even
though it was a good fight. I mean, Max
was definitely ahead in the fifth round,
but it was a good fight. And then, you
know, during that wild exchange, he
should have never done that.
>> Yeah,
>> he was already fading, whereas Max was
still very fresh.
>> [ __ ] crazy fight, man.
>> Yeah,
>> that was a crazy fight. I think
Topiria's nose was broken in round two.
I think it was pretty early on and uh
>> hard to say.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, but uh Justin did clip him
with a bunch of those uppercuts. So
Justin does this thing where he like
collar ties you and then throws an
uppercut in tight. And he's really good
at it. He's really good at like turning
you a little and then throwing an
uppercut. In these exchanges, he collar
ties and uppercuts. He caught him a few
times and you just get one of those on
the [ __ ] nose on the old schnozle.
This thing's so brittle.
>> Yeah.
>> It's such a If you feel your nose, just
feel it.
>> Have you ever seen Morab's nose?
>> The X-ray of Morab's nose. You never
seen it.
>> I sent it to you, right, Jamie?
>> Jamie, you'll find it.
>> It's crazy. Look what it looks like.
>> Oh my god.
>> Look at that.
>> Oh [ __ ]
>> bro.
Jeez.
>> That thing is destroyed. I mean, it's
destroyed. He's getting zero air out of
that. He's got the best cardio on planet
Earth, and he's getting zero air out of
his nose.
>> Wow.
>> But he won't get it fixed cuz if he gets
it fixed, he he can't fight for like a
year and he just wants to keep on
trucking.
>> Yeah,
>> that dude's a freak.
>> If I was his friend, I would say, "Dude,
you got a lot of money. You're a world
champion. Fix the nose. Let's fix it.
Let's take a year off. Come back and
[ __ ] these [ __ ] up." Cuz if
that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got
10% more cardio. Are you crazy? That guy
with 10% more cardio. That's an extra
weapon.
>> I would get it fixed. But the problem is
if he gets it fixed and then like he
fights a guy like Hollow and he gets
jumping spinning back kicked to the nose
in the first round and it's shattered as
again, then he's kind of [ __ ] Because
if they have to fix it again, then they
might have to start taking pieces of
your rib out and reconstructing your
nose and grafting bone and doing weird
[ __ ] And then sometimes that [ __ ]
doesn't take and sometimes it gets
infected and then you have a bone
infection on your face and what do they
do then? Then they have to remove your
nose. Is that what they have to do?
>> [ __ ]
>> God.
>> Scary [ __ ] man.
>> Very much so.
>> These [ __ ] dudes, man. That is a
crazy job to risk your life, risk your
health, risk your bones. You You're
making a living by trying to damage
another person who's trying to damage
you.
Nuts. But it's also why it's the most
exciting [ __ ] in the world to watch.
>> Exactly.
>> So exciting.
>> Yeah.
>> Even boxing as, you know, tamed in
comparison to MMA because there's less
weapons and less options and a lot more
padding.
>> Yeah. You don't get the chokeouts, the
crazy chokeouts.
There was a crazy choke out this
weekend. Um, his name is Ruseov and he
fought uh God, how do I say his last
name? He fought this Russian cat and got
him Russian or Ukrainian, I forget. Um,
but he got him in a rear naked choke and
and put him to sleep. And it was one of
those ones where the guy looks dead.
He's like lying there. I mean, it was a
[ __ ] nasty choke, man. And yeah, like
and it's Look at him.
>> Oh yeah, I saw that.
>> It was dark, dude.
>> It's another meme out this week along
with the W girl pointing.
>> What's his name,
>> bro? It was nuts.
>> The memes on these things are nuts
nowadays. Oh, the internet is
undefeated.
>> Oh, it's crazy.
>> They're so good at memes. Oh my god.
>> There's so many people out there working
jobs that they hate
>> that are smart and funny.
>> Yep. We were talking about it the other
day, but you you've have you caught up
with any of those WNBA what's her name?
The girl that's pointing at
>> Sophie Cunningham.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I've been um paying Can you put
that thing in the middle? Put the
ashtray in the middle. Um, I've been
paying attention very little, but one of
the things that I did watch is all the
fowls. Like these [ __ ] throw each
other to the ground. They and they poke
each other in the eyes.
>> Like they do this. They literally jab
each other in the eyes. It's crazy. Like
they they foul and also they travel so
much.
>> Oh, it's crazy.
>> They take like four or five steps and
then no one calls them on it.
>> Oh, yeah. double dribble everything.
>> Is there a trend now to not call
traveling?
>> Yes, without a doubt. In the actual NBA,
it's a thing too.
>> There's it's hard to get into this
without going way into like the weeds,
but the NBA has a technically different
rule than college and like high school
and everyone else where there's they
call it a gather step and they
definitely would call it in high school,
>> but they work all day manipulating it
with the referee watching them saying
like you can do that but you can't do
that. you can do this, but you can't do
that. And so, like, they've got it to a
place where everything they're doing
looks like traveling and dribble double
dribbles, but guys will break it down in
slow-mo and you'll be like, "Well,
technically it's not."
>> Cuz weird. I always thought if you took
a step, you had to bounce the ball.
>> Yeah,
>> that's how it should be.
>> You're allowed to.
>> Doesn't it seem like that should be how
it is? When you see guys taking four
steps, you're like, what's going on?
>> But do you want to see exciting
basketball or not?
>> Yeah, I do.
>> All right. Well, then just let the
referees call the game how they call it.
>> But I think there's something exciting
about you having to bounce that ball
because you won't be able to score as
much, right?
>> Correct.
>> Like if you have to bounce it every two
steps, whatever it is.
>> I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I
was a kid and [ __ ] Barkley and Jordan
and Ewing and all these people were
physical. It is just a whole different
game now.
>> So back then was it traveling like when
the Larry Bird days?
>> Hell yeah. Unless Jordan talked to the
ref and said, "Yo, you're wrong. Let me
do what I want." And then
>> Well, Jordan had the cheat code where he
would leap from the [ __ ] free throw
line. That is so when I've watched
videos of that, it doesn't even look
real.
>> He was such an amazing athlete.
>> He was so good and so possessed by his
desire to win. He would do things that
you would just go, "How does a person
fly?"
>> Yeah,
>> dude. Imagine if he was like a like one
of those jumpers, those long distance
jumpers. He'd probably have an insane
jump.
>> Yeah,
>> because he he's going from the free
throw line in the air.
>> That's crazy.
>> Everything he did was crazy. The way he
did things, the way he practiced,
everything.
>> Yeah. And did he not make his college
team?
>> No. That's
>> high school team.
>> No.
>> Wasn't there like one year
>> when he was a freshman? He didn't make
the varsity team.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> Yeah. That's most freshman don't.
Perfect. May have changed basketball
history forever.
>> Most freshmen don't. That doesn't make
sense because they're not even developed
yet.
>> Yeah, that's plan.
>> I know kids in Texas, they keep their
kids back a year.
>> Wow.
>> They want their kid to be bigger.
>> I want Billy to be the biggest freshman.
I want him to be a 15year-old freshman.
We're pushing for right before his 15th
birthday. Like, hey, 15's a sophomore.
Billy's a [ __ ] cheater. Why you
sandbagging Billy?
>> Yeah. that it doesn't bother me nearly
as much in a sport like football where I
see what you're doing like you're
preparing a kid for a professional
future perhaps. Especially in Texas,
they're very into it down here. But if
it's a wrestling, it's like, hey,
>> yeah,
>> hey, there's [ __ ] no money in this
and that kid's 16 and he's in the ninth
grade.
>> Yeah, it's nuts.
>> How is the How old is the oldest that a
kid can be and compete in high school
sports?
Jamie,
>> please put that into our sponsor
Perplexity. Let's find out. I wonder if
it varies by sport.
>> Definitely by sport and by state.
>> Interesting.
Do they all have a cap at 18 or do they
allow you to compete at 19? Yeah,
there's going to be a But before I even
hit enter, I know it's going to say
something about like your graduating
class can't be out maybe more than like
two years or something like that in case
you got held back or you had an injury
or something like that.
>> Boy, I remember from my days of being
like 17 and 18, the difference between
17 and 19 was huge.
>> Oh yeah.
>> It's a big difference.
>> [ __ ] yeah.
>> By the time you're 19, you're basically
man strength. You 17 I was like a boy
still.
>> Yeah. you know, like I was flimsy. 17
was like a flimsy kid. By the time I was
19, it was it's a different animal. You
You've got two more years of training
and testosterone in you.
>> Yeah.
>> If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a
huge advantage.
>> Every advant everything in wrestling is
a huge advantage. Starting one year
earlier is crazy.
>> Huge. Huge advantage.
>> 19 based off of certain
>> Oh, bro, that's so rude. making
19year-olds wrestle against like
possibly 15 year olds is crazy, right?
So, if you are like in a certain weight
class that's not strong, like I wasn't a
good wrestler. I was a pretty good
wrestler, but I started I was on the
varsity team at my high school and uh
like one year I didn't even cut weight
or one one weight class I didn't cut I
was I there was a guy that was below me
at like 126 or 128 and he was better
than me and so the next available weight
class was 134 which is I that's what I
normally weighed when I was 15 so I just
wrestled at 134.
>> That's lovely.
Well, I could have been in there with a
19-year-old [ __ ] animal who weighs a
buck 60 and dries himself out briefly to
hit 134. And there was guys like that,
man. You would see them at like the
states and you go, "What the fuck?"
>> Yeah.
>> And they were going to camps, so they
were wrestling 365 days a year, all year
long.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I just started. I didn't know anything.
>> Same. I started as a freshman in high
school and got [ __ ] up.
>> I didn't even start as a freshman. I
started as a sophomore.
I started as a sophomore because some
kid kicked my ass in the locker room.
Some some kid grabbed me in a headlock
and threw me to the ground and didn't
punch me. He could have punched me.
Decided not to. But I was so humiliated.
I was like, "Oh my god, I need to learn
how to wrestle."
>> Mhm.
>> Then I also wrestled in the park like in
the grass with my friend Stephen and I
thought I'd be able I was a good
athlete. I was doing karate. I was like,
"He can't take me down." He took me down
instantly. I was like, "Oh no, this is
terrible."
>> Yeah. It's a whole different beast. It's
also like how tired you get. I remember
thinking I used to think that I had
worked out before that because I'd, you
know, taken karate classes and done some
taekwondo. I thought I'd worked out.
>> You don't even know what working out is
until you go through a wrestling
practice. You're like,
>> "We're running stairs. What? What? We're
carrying guys around the wrestling room.
You pick up your partner, your training
partner, you have the firemen carry them
around the [ __ ] room."
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, Jesus Christ. Then you're doing
push-ups and sit-ups to puke. And then
you're doing live drills. [ __ ]
>> Non-stop,
>> dude. Animals.
>> Yeah, we would rotate
uh you know, there's all those different
weight classes and just for shits and
giggles, you know, one of the drills
was, you know, escape from the next guy.
All right. Beep. Whistleblows escape.
You're on bottom. You have to get out
the next guy. So sometimes I at a 103
weight class I would have Hugh Frost who
was I think 235 245 250.
>> Oh yeah. Just for one drill and it's a
[ __ ] joke. It's a pancake and he
would probably he was probably showing
mercy at the time obviously but not
really cuz he doesn't want to he doesn't
want to let this little [ __ ] [ __ ]
103 out from under him. So he's you know
putting enough pressure to keep
everybody there. Not to mention the 165
freak of nature made of muscle and the
185, you know, it was just a drill. But
that reality hits hard. That's how you
see the difference between 15 and 17 and
all that.
>> And someone who actually really knows
how to wrestle and just wrestler
strength. Like I always tell people, if
you want to look at MMA, like what is
the most important skill? The the the
foundation is wrestling. The foundation.
If you wanted your kid to be a badass
fighter, you're like, "My kid really
loves fighting. He thinks he wants to do
it, but I want to prepare him right,
which I do." Teach him how to wrestle,
get that kid into a really good
wrestling program. Because if you have
advanced wrestling, you look at how it
shuts down so many fighters. Like look
at what Hamzot did to Dreus Dupacy.
Hamza, he just raged all them. His
wrestling is at such a high level. And
Dus, who was a world champion, couldn't
do [ __ ] to stop it. He just dragged him
to the ground anytime he wanted to. Got
him in a crucifix like three times.
>> Morab against Ali. I mean,
>> exactly. Exactly.
>> You were watching a guy that does a no
look right hand knockout punch into a
salute. No look at his opponent,
>> right? Get I mean, it's just impossible.
It It appears impossible in every Kabib
fight. The thing I always think about
first when I think about Kabib fighting
is him being on top and having his feet
under the other dude's feet, which is
just that's it. It's the final level
when you can't even begin the process of
posturing out in any way. You are
nothing. You are a tissue in an octagon
with a man
>> and he's wailing on your face.
>> He's wailing on your face and he has
your legs triangled underneath his legs.
It's always funny when UFC or when
casual UFC fans uh don't understand
those little things like that that
aren't even part of the fight. They're
looking up here waiting to see if the
punches are going to rain down.
>> Yeah.
>> But the positioning of his feet is what
I'm always looking at and how scary it
can be here.
>> He's not even doing it right.
>> He's hell on top of people. He is right
here.
>> But that leg being thrown is torture.
It's all the weight is
>> nothing you can do. There's just nowhere
to go. And all that weight on those
hips, people don't realize,
>> like I notice immediately if I ever see
somebody that's kind of on top and their
knees are on the ground. Like if you
look, his right knee isn't on the
ground. It looks like it might be.
>> And look how he keeps slamming those
left hands into Johnson's head. I mean,
he got hit with like 15, 20 unanswered
full force left hand blows.
>> Just holding his arms so he can't move,
>> bro. He's horrible. He was horrible. He
was so good. Khabib was so good. And he
would do this to world class fighters,
man. And by the way, Johnson clipped him
in that fight, too. It was one of the
few times in his career where he got
clipped.
>> One that looked really frustrated. Who's
the Who's the one that looked super
frustrated in that?
>> Barbosa.
>> I'm asking. I don't remember who it was.
>> Barbosa was one of them. But I mean, a
lot of guys who fought Kabib look
frustrated because there's not a damn
thing they could do. Nope.
>> Barbosa was like early in the first
round, he had that thousandy yard stare
was like, "Fuck, like I have to go
through three rounds of this where they
just give up on the idea that they can
even win."
>> Yeah.
>> Like all you're doing is trying to
survive.
>> Yeah.
>> He was a monster, dude.
>> Like that. His leg being trapped is
nuts. And look how he's scooting with it
>> and he's just slamming punches. And you
get up, he's just chasing you.
>> I got the gun right back down. I
thought,
>> but if you get up, he's just gonna
[ __ ] chase you and drag you to the
ground again. So, you blew all that
energy to get up. The moment you try to
punch or throw a kick, he's on you.
You're on your back again. Punch to the
face. Punch to the face. Yeah.
Wrestling's giant. It is the the biggest
skill.
>> Yeah.
>> You have to know how to do everything
else, too, nowadays, cuz all these kids
that like you see in the Contender
Series, these young guys coming up, man,
they're all so [ __ ] talented.
He tried to wheel kick them. And really
more than anything, I feel like
wrestling, being out wrestled and being
just trapped on the ground is so
psychologically demoralizing when you've
been training for a UFC fight and the
crowd is out there and the lights are on
you and you see the logos on the mat cuz
you're facing it.
>> Back that up a little bit. Let me show
you something here too. What's What's
interesting here before that before the
clinch. So after he throws the wheel
kick like Barbos is trying to win,
right? This is the third round. He's
trying to win and he throws this W. But
look, no, go before that. When he throws
the kick, here it is. So, he throws the
kick and misses. He's so tired now that
when Khabib moves for him, he clinches.
Look, he instigated the clinch. Instead
of pushing away, instead of circling to
his left, he clinched cuz he's so tired,
dude. He's so tired. And this dude just
Look at that face.
>> He just drags him down to the ground
again.
>> Twoon one on that arm underneath him,
>> weights being thrown in. He doesn't know
what to do with his legs. He actually
just put his foot above Kabib because
it's so confusing. All that weight on
you. You don't know where to even begin
to start getting up.
>> Well, he's the first thing he's got to
do is get that left leg free. And he's
not going to.
>> That was the part before the crawling
thing.
>> He's a He was a monster. He was a
monster
>> and retired undefeated.
>> Yeah. And there's something to being on
that mat, not being able to move,
knowing that the clock is ticking, and
this is not how you picture this going.
>> Not only that, this is with the current
rules where I think there should be no
stand-ups. I think the only time there
should be a stand up is when there's a
foul.
>> Yeah, I completely agree with you. I
hate it when they stand people up.
>> Even if it's boring. I get it's boring,
but the guy can't get up and this guy's
holding him down. So, he's winning. Yes,
he's winning. See, I know he's not doing
enough. What does that mean? He's biting
his time. You've got to let a guy have
strategy. Like when Muhammad Ali did
rope a dope against George Foreman,
imagine if the referee's like, "You've
got to punch back if you don't punch
back." No, he's he's got a strategy.
Strategy is let George Foreman burn
himself out and then eventually tee off
on him. And that's what he did.
>> Yeah. It stinks that referees can let
the crowd get in their head.
>> Well, it's the the organization wants
action, too. The fans want action. A lot
of people disagree with me and I
understand their point. I understand
their point. Especially if you're a
casual like it's gay. Get them up. Make
them fight. They don't want to fight.
They want to hug. Boo. Right.
>> So what? So what? This is the sport. And
if that guy who's on top, who's biting
his time and recovering, then decides,
okay, now's the time. Let me start
dropping some bombs because I've
recovered.
>> Good. Well, he held the position and he
recovered his energy and now he's
winning. Like, let him [ __ ] fight.
LET HIM FIGHT. GET OUT OF THERE. GET OUT
of there.
>> Yep.
>> There shouldn't be stand-ups.
>> And I get it. The referee gets that
cheer from the crowd. You know, it feels
rewarding.
>> Sometimes when they stand fights up, I
get excited.
>> Yeah.
>> I go, "Yeah, yeah,
>> here we go.
>> That striker has a chance."
>> But my position is still the same. I
don't think they should stand him up.
I'm worse than that. I think they should
start each round where they lost the
last round.
>> Oh, I love that.
>> That's great.
>> So, every round, why do you get to stand
up? Why do you get that advantage that a
striker gets of standing up when you
didn't earn it?
>> Get back down there.
>> Yeah,
>> get back down there. Crucifix. Why' you
have to start the round off in a
crucifix?
>> Yeah, that's how the end round ended.
They look at the big screen, get a
freeze frame of the position, referee
sets you in the exact position and says,
"Ready, fight."
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I love that.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] off. That's what the sport is
supposed to be. And sometimes it's going
to be boring. Yeah. But that's real
though. At least it's real cuz there's
been a lot of fights where the guy got
taken down in the first round, starts
out the second round, and blasts the guy
and knocks him out. And it's like, okay,
it's exciting to watch, but he didn't
earn that position. He just got that
position because the other guy survived
the first round. And so it's like, it's
one fight. It's not five fights,
>> right? So, I think it should be one
continuous fight with a one minute break
in each round.
>> Yeah. That'd be like if the team losing
automatically got the kickoff after
halftime or something like that.
>> Yeah. And look, guaranteed if uh I was
running the UFC, it would probably go
bankrupt. I'm not the right guy. I don't
know what the [ __ ] I'm talking about.
I'd be a terrible promoter.
I'd be too honest about stuff. And I'd
want to give people fights that maybe
they weren't the most exciting fighters,
but they were above the other person in
the rankings.
>> I I think the rankings should be the
whole reason why you make fights.
>> Sami Zayn won the Universal WWE
Championship over this weekend at a big
pay-per-view.
>> I have no idea who that is, but I'm
happy for him.
>> Shocked Cody Rhodess,
>> who was it who was like a guaranteed
win.
>> I wonder what happened.
>> Rolled him up real quick.
>> Do you think maybe that was fixed? Well,
it was very entertaining.
Very entertaining.
>> I'm sure it was. I just don't understand
how you go back and forth.
>> Oh, it's the best.
>> I know you love it.
>> Well, sometimes that's what I said about
this White House card, by the way, is
like
there's nothing that could have happened
that they could have written, if it was
written, that would have made it more
exciting,
>> right?
>> It felt real the whole time. and the
fights that happened before made it feel
like anything could happen in that main
event. Like it just felt raw and real,
but also storyline, which then when UFC
is at its best like that, it's like the
WWE.
>> That's what's interesting. Of course,
it's not as, you know, uh acrobatic.
Exactly. But it is it was a special
moment. You know, it was a regardless of
how you feel politically and I
understand it
>> if you're if you hate the Republicans
and you hate the whole idea, I get it.
But just as a person who loves a sport,
it was a very unusual experience. Very
unusual. And just I think people have to
just look at some things that way. You
know, some people have a really hard
time separating themselves politically
because they're going, "Oh, no." That
the White House puts on this thing.
There's all this bad press because of
the war. There's bad press because of
this and that. And they put on this
thing at the White House and it sort of
like
>> MAGA washes everything. You know what I
mean? Makes everybody like them again.
Gives them positive press which
undeniable. Undeniable. It gave them
positive press.
>> I mean, the amount of people that have
seen it is nuts. You know, I think just
on Paramount, it's something like 30
something million now. And you know they
were telling me that they thought it was
probably 150 million people had watched
it in some form
>> which was uh you know Tik Tok clips,
Instagram, YouTube. But that is a nutty
number man. And I think Dana and Hunter
they were thinking it could get to like
a billion people see it
>> which is just nuts.
>> Yeah.
>> In some form you know highlight reels
clips. I mean just the Gachi fight alone
just the highlight reels. How many
people watch those on Instagram and Tik
Tok and
>> totally
>> the awareness of the event of the moment
was so huge. It was like nothing else.
Like it didn't feel like any other event
we had ever like I was nervous before it
started.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I never get nervous for the UFC. I
get excited but I was like legitimately
nervous. I was like I was feeling like a
little like this is crazy. Like we're on
the White House lawn.
>> No. The fly over is when it really hit.
>> Yeah. Well, when they had all those jets
together and they're so close to each
other, like imagine if one of those
[ __ ] clips into their wing and
spirals right into the ellipse.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Crazy. What a spectacle.
>> Yeah. They would have definitely
canceled the fights cuz think they they
canled the White House correspondents
dinner because of that assassination
attack.
>> God damn it.
>> Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that,
I heard.
>> Yeah. So annoying. I was more excited
for that than like anything.
>> How do they just cancel it? Why didn't
they reschedu it? Maybe they're going to
wait until the ballroom's finished. Cuz
that's the argument for the ballroom
that they could have it at a place like
that where it's completely secured.
>> Yeah.
>> Kurt Mascer thinks the whole thing is
fake.
>> Uh
>> oh. Another f another fake assassination
attempt.
>> Yeah.
>> How'd that guy get in there?
>> Yeah.
>> How that Well, I think some people are
just incompetent.
>> There's incompetence. There's bad
security. There's uh people that don't
do their job. And there's also people
that you didn't expect to be a problem
and were a problem and you're in a
hotel.
>> Also, the guy made it to the first level
of the first scanning of security. It's
not like he made it into the thing,
>> but he did shoot somebody, right?
>> I
>> I think he shot one of the Secret
Service agents in his bulletproof vest.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that true, Jamie?
>> I think so.
>> See, there were so many stories online,
it's so hard to know what was true and
what was not. But I think the guy was a
teacher, like a substitute teacher.
>> Nuts. It's all nuts.
>> It's like, man, you didn't think this
out?
>> Scheduled it for July 24th.
>> Okay.
Okay.
>> The correspondence dinner.
>> Yep.
>> Wow. I did not know that,
>> son. You might want to polish up some of
them bits.
>> Yeah, it's going to be some new stuff.
>> Go back and tag some of them with some
current events. Where are they going to
have it?
>> Uh, sorry, I sorted it.
If they have it at the same spot, that's
not smart.
>> New event held July 24th.
>> It's not saying where
>> is at the Pentagon.
>> They might wait. They might wait to
release that.
>> Yeah, it's not saying. Oh, uh, Waldolf,
excuse me, Waldorf Atoria.
>> Oh, okay. Well, I guarantee you they'll
tighten that [ __ ] up a little bit.
>> Oh, yeah. I know he was excited to do
the jokes.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> No, he was he was very pumped.
>> Yeah, they were bangers. I ran them um
because the thing happened. I happened
to be performing at the Kennedy Center
the ne that weekend, the next weekend.
So, I ran the jokes and I realized that
I had Adam Ray as a special guest that
was on before me. He brought me on
stage. So, I go, you know what? Even I
wrote jokes for the president of the
United States to make fun of the press
and everybody at the White House
correspondents dinner, but I just
realized Adam's here. Adam, you want to
come out and read these in Trump's
voice?
>> And so he was seeing the jokes for the
first time and reading them and we had
so much fun.
>> I didn't know he does a Trump, which
doesn't surprise me. I mean, his
impressions are insane.
>> He can do anything, dude.
>> Yeah, he can do anybody. He didn't even
he didn't he was dabbling in a Biden the
week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden
which I think is a [ __ ] god I think
it's like 40 million or seven some crazy
amount and again just like the UFC God
only knows after clips but it was a
monumental comedy [ __ ] moment having
Shane as Trumpction Adam is Biden right
before the election right after their
first debate where Biden was clearly
[ __ ] zonked and sleepy and and just
couldn't compete at all. And so I hit up
Adam via text. I'm like, "Do you have a
Biden?" He's like, "I cover it for five
seconds in a in my standup. I'm like,
uh, are you free on Monday to fly to
Austin and do Biden if I can get Shane
as Trump?" And I remember telling Shane,
like I'm like, "This is going to be an
interesting ask." Uh, but I, you know,
I'm just like, "Hey, Adam's got a
Biden." And Shane's like, "I have
something to do on Monday. I'm
cancelling it. I'm doing Trump." He
immediately saw The Brilliance. It was
just such a hot topic at the time. And
my god, it was [ __ ] crazy. There's
clips that I see of that episode and I
never rewatch Kill Tony's or anything.
I'll see clips sometimes and I literally
go, "Oh my god, holy [ __ ] shit."
There's one part where Trump goes, "How
many more retards are you going to bring
out here?" because there had been like
two handicapped people on the show. All
right, how many more retards you have
come? As I'm pulling a name out of the
bucket in real time, I go, "Anything can
happen, Mr. President. Let's see if what
the next guy's like." And he comes out
and he has like these weird deformed
penguin arms.
>> Oh god.
>> And you see Shane as Trump and the
crowd's dying because they see him first
and you see Shane as Trump look and go,
"Fuck." It's just one of his his rea
facial reactions to things are like his
greatest secret [ __ ] hilarious
weapon. And when he's Trump, it's even
amplified. It's like in my opinion 10 or
20% funnier than even Shane is. I mean,
I'm sure he'd admit to this and know it
cuz Trump is just such an interesting,
polarizing character. And his take on
him is so [ __ ] funny. It's psychotic.
>> His impression so good. It's the
greatest Trump impression of all time
cuz it's like the jokes are so good.
>> Oh, by far. He's so What's What's funny?
>> Found the part.
>> So epic.
>> Back it up a little bit.
>> Another fun appearance by True Nickens.
>> This is the best.
>> All right,
>> Tony. How many more [ __ ] guys do you
have back here?
>> Anything can happen.
>> This crowd is hungry for more [ __ ]
guys. Frankly, I don't think we've seen
enough [ __ ] guys. How about a
[ __ ] racist? Would you like to
>> This next person could be one. I pulled
it out of the bucket. It is the Kill
Tony debut, I do believe, of Jacob Bar,
everybody. Jacob Bar.
>> Oh my god.
>> Thank you.
>> Well, well, well.
>> Oh my god. Okay.
>> Careful what you wish for.
>> Okay, hold on. We're gonna reset this.
Jacob,
>> what's funny is is Adam knows better
than anybody that you're not supposed to
say anything after the bucket bull comes
up. So me grabbing the mic out of his
hand and putting it down is even another
layer of hilarious to all of us. It's
like Biden's misbehaving.
>> I don't know. Did you see Shane's face
when he notices his hands?
>> I didn't even look.
>> And then
[ __ ]
He's our Jackie Gleason.
>> Oh yeah, without a doubt.
>> That's what it is.
>> Plus plus, man.
>> He's the great one of the generation.
>> What people don't realize, I I mean,
obviously, is that he is that funny all
the [ __ ] time.
>> All the time when we're hanging out in
the green room,
>> every bar, every restaurant, every green
room, every every stairway, [ __ ]
anywhere, everything. He I always
compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime.
He just hits harder and different doing
the smallest little things. Even if it's
a face, if somebody says something and
he just like reacts to it, it's crazy.
>> It's also always fun.
>> He's a fun guy. Like he wants to have
fun. Like even when he's cracking jokes,
it's fun.
>> Well,
>> I know he was very reluctant to do the
roast, you know. He was a little
reluctant to even host that. Like I
don't want I don't want to do those
things.
>> Yeah. you know, but
>> well, everything is, you know,
everything could be something. He
crushed so hard. It caused a real
ruckus. Him and I end capping that
thing. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> It was supposed to be a, you know, this
roast of black excellence and me and
Shane are just [ __ ] having the time
of our lives. He got
>> Who said it was a roast of black
excellence? You're just saying that
because it was Kevin Hart.
>> Well, yeah, that's that's like that was
>> It wasn't like explicitly stated or
anything, right? M
>> I mean
>> cuz imagine if you said you we're going
to have a roast of white excellence,
>> right? Exactly. No, I know.
>> Crazy.
>> Oh yeah.
>> It's weird where you can and can't say.
>> Oh yeah.
>> That's weird.
>> Oh yeah.
>> You know.
>> Yeah. It's a whole thing with that. I
mean
>> you can't talk about this, but you can
talk about that.
>> Well, it's just weird what we accept,
which like doesn't bother me at all, but
like Kane Velasquez when he fought in
the UFC, he used to have brown pride
tattooed on his chest. Cool. whose
family came over from Mexico. They they
literally walked here.
>> Yeah.
>> White pride not so popular,
>> right?
>> White pride on your chest. You know,
[ __ ] Sean Strickland just decided to
get white pride
and he posted a picture on Instagram of
him as a world champion with white pride
on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a
world champion with brown pride on his
chest.
>> Yeah.
>> And people would lose their [ __ ]
minds. Yes.
>> And again, not saying that Shawn would
ever put white pride on his chest.
>> He would. No, he would. I follow him. He
>> doesn't have any tattoos.
>> I follow him on Twitter. He would. Trust
me.
>> He's a wild boy.
>> He did get a temporary tattoo.
>> He showed up at the UFC even though he
was banned. He showed up and they
arrested him.
>> Yeah.
They kicked him out. He's the world
champion. There's a UFC event at the
White House at the time before Justin
won. He was the only American world
champion. And they're like, "You can't
come."
>> Yeah.
>> Because you talk too much [ __ ] about
Israel.
>> Mhm. He's a wild boy.
>> But that's wild that your criticism
about Israel is what keeps you from
going to the White House as a world
champion in a a world title fights at
the White House.
>> Yeah.
>> Like you think you would want to
celebrate the American male world
champion.
>> I think he said some other stuff too
though.
>> Yeah. Epstein stuff there.
>> Yeah.
>> Said he's a wild boy.
>> Yeah.
>> I think he's
>> I told him when he retires from
fighting, he 100% should do a podcast.
And he was like, I you know
seen these guys doing these streamers
and like I go, you don't have to do
that, right?
>> You don't have to do it that way. He's
like, I couldn't do that. Just sit there
every day and talk to people for hours.
I'd lose my [ __ ] mind. I'm like,
right, but you don't have to do that.
Just your opinions on things. Like he's
an awesome podcast guest,
>> you know? I'm like, he could totally
totally do that. Just talk about stuff.
And also
Sean when he lets the the whole stick
down and just gives you his opinions on
things. Very smart guy. Yeah.
>> He's not stupid at all. And he would get
better at it, you know, as he did it
more. He easily could do a podcast.
>> Yeah. He's entertaining as [ __ ]
>> I just can't believe they kicked him out
of the White House. And that is they
kicked him out of the ellipse that area.
There's I think there's video of it. See
if you can find the video of it. Like,
sorry guys. Like they got like [ __ ]
six six cops and bulletproof vests.
>> Yeah. I think there was like 85,000
people there. So, it's funny that
they're like that one the champion.
>> It's just he wasn't supposed to be
there. He was banned. He was not invited
or whatever. But even if you're not
invited, shouldn't you be able to go to
the fan area if you're the world
champion? If you want to be that wild
with no security and there's video of
him from the first night from the night
of the weigh-ins where they found out
that he was there. It's amazing because
he was wearing a hoodie the entire time
and someone told him he's got to take
off the hoodie and he's like I can't
listen. It's going to be a problem and
as soon as he takes off the hoodie
everybody goes it's [ __ ] strong
and then he's just surrounded by bros.
>> Hilarious.
>> Just getting hugged to death. He asked
some dude uh some dude asked him to leg
kick him. A Sean leg kick some kid.
>> Crazy.
>> World champion [ __ ] kicking some kid.
What is this world coming to?
>> There's starting to be some
>> It's him. Is it Is there uh audio?
>> This is crazy.
I like that we have some entertaining
American uh
>> Oh, he's the most entertaining
>> that Josh uh Hoit Hocket.
>> Hoit.
>> Hoit.
>> Yeah.
>> My god, he is.
>> That was what was hilarious was people
were so upset that he said Michelle
Obama's a man at the White House.
>> It's like that's what he's doing. He's
doing that on purpose. Like he's
literally wearing an American flag
bandana. He comes out to a Hulk Hogan
song.
>> He's wearing sunglasses
>> during Yeah. It's not appropriate.
You're right.
>> Yep.
>> Right. But he said the exact same thing
when I interviewed him somewhere else.
>> Yeah.
>> He said I I'm pretty sure he said
Michelle Obama's a man like last time I
interviewed him.
>> That's what I heard is that it's not the
his first rodeo at the Michelle Obama is
a man.
>> That's how he ends his interviews.
>> Hilarious.
>> He's trying to get people to talk about
him.
>> Yep.
>> You know, it's the whole thing is so
crazy. But all of it would be nothing if
he couldn't fight. Exactly. That's what
that's where it's real exciting is the
pre-fight stuff. I mean, the post-fight
interview pretty polarizing obviously
because that was the news. But if you
for the real fans paying attention, did
you didn't get to see him do that? Did I
send it to you? The kill Tony minute
that he did at the press conference. Oh
my god. So funny cuz he's like
purposefully bombing.
>> So he's literally doing a joke. He's he
says, "You guys know Tony Hinchcliffe?
I'm going to do my Kill Tony minute."
and he's purposefully like bombing. It's
corny, purposeful, bad jokes. And he's
going, "Man, tough crowd. All right, let
me let me try this one." And it's like
literally being hilarious
by strategically
trying to be funny, but not being funny.
You could tell that he was planning on
nobody laughing, but that it's setup
punch. And he's just [ __ ] try. He's
just trying to entertain, which is
>> he's trolling.
>> He's trolling. He's getting attention.
>> And then the most important thing, he
can fight.
>> Yeah,
>> that dude's good.
>> He's [ __ ] good, man. He's fast as
[ __ ] for a heavyweight. He's very light
on his feet, fast as [ __ ] fast hands.
>> Yeah. So fun to watch.
>> And you know what's interesting is uh he
talked a lot of [ __ ] about Alex Pereira
and you know, I want a shyama on your
mama, all that crazy [ __ ]
>> Um Pereira losing to serial gone.
Pereira decides to fight again. I don't
know if he's going to fight again. He
might be done. I think he said he might
be done, but I mean a lot of fighters
say that after a fight and especially
after a loss.
>> Yeah.
>> Let him sit around for a while. Then
they come up with
>> he's not done.
>> They back up the Brinks truck. Get him
versus Josh Hoit.
>> Oh god.
>> As a co-main event on a [ __ ] banging
New Year's Eve card.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Let's go.
>> Hit will be making fun of his headdress
and his face makeup. Oh, it would be
insane. It would be insane. But, you
know, the thing is Hok's got to deal
with that guy.
>> That's a different guy. That's not
Derrick Lewis.
>> I mean, if he continues to fight
heavyweight, it is interesting watching
a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and
at 205 with that all that extra weight
on. I don't know if that necessarily was
the right move, you know? I mean, I
think like some weight is probably good,
but maybe even 20 lbs lighter. Like
maybe 230 something. Maybe that would be
a better weight if he really wants to
fight at heavy weight cuz it seems like
he was carrying I mean just you ever
work out with a weight vest on?
>> Yeah,
>> it's crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> Like a 25 lb weight vest. It's nuts how
much harder everything is. So you got to
realize he had fought at 185 and he
fought at 205. That was what he weighed
in at. But let's be
honest. At 185, I think he probably
weighed 220 something, 226, I think it
was, fight night, which is nuts. It's 40
lbs difference. And at 205, he probably
got into the 230s, like 235, 236,
something like that. But still was not
didn't look like he looked at 251. 251
he looked like he was carrying
unnecessary weight, a little bit of it
at least. And if he was just like 20
pounds lighter, he would still have that
speed and movement, but he's always had
crazy knockout power. It might be a
better weight for just seemed like it
was a lot of weight he had on him, you
know,
>> and it all went to his ass. Yeah,
>> his ass was giant.
>> Fat ass.
>> Big fat ass.
>> You know me, you know that's all I'm
looking at. That's why I watch UFC. And
uh yeah, it was all there.
>> It was like a backpack.
>> Well, that's where all the power comes
from. You know, when you're pushing off
your feet and you know, you're pushing
off those [ __ ] quads and pushing into
those glutes and then torquing that body
the way he does.
>> Ferocious power, dude.
>> But damn, that serial gone's good. Woo.
>> Yeah,
>> he's so good, dude. And he's in his
prime right now. Sir Gan is like really
coming into his own.
>> There's no heavyweight like him. No one
moves like him.
>> Yeah, I was going to say extremely
accurate for a heavyweight.
>> Not just accurate, agile. Yeah,
>> cuz uh we were talking about this the
other day that basketball is a great
place to start if you're a big athlete
and you want to learn combat sports,
especially striking because think about
how many direction changes basketball
players take where they're always kind
of doing that. They're always spinning
and moving. It's a series of
plyometrics. It's a series of hops and
jumps like Jordan's jump. Imagine if
Jordan had a flying knee, right?
>> Right. He's [ __ ]
>> He's hit you with a flying knee from 14
feet away. Yeah.
>> What do you got?
>> Basketball.
>> What's that?
>> Playing basketball.
>> It's interesting because uh
>> Oh, serial guns are Yeah. So, he started
out playing basketball.
>> At least where I come from. Basketball
season and foot uh wrestling season are
at the same time. So, I wonder what he
was doing back then.
>> Well, he's in France, right? So, France
does not have wrestling
>> in their high school or in their
college, you know? and he learned
wrestling after he had become a really
elite worldclass Muay Thai fighter. So,
he's got the the the grappling is come
up in big ways. Like his grappling is
much better than it used to be. But
really, primarily he's a striker and
when John fought him like Jon just got
him to the ground and submitted him like
quickly. It's like the different I think
in that fight was kind of a big ass
wakeup call and Francis beat him too. So
Francis beat him by just Francis just
got a hold of him and most of the fight
was on the ground. A giant chunk of it
because Francis fought that fight with a
blown out ACL.
>> Wow.
>> Defended his world title with a blown
out ACL.
>> Crazy.
>> Had big ass knee pads on. O
>> I know. Wobbly ass knee. But that's how
dangerous Francis is.
>> Yeah.
>> He could just win it with grappling.
It's It's a shame that he's not in the
UFC. It's a real shame.
>> Yeah. Because like that whole thing was
what drove everyone crazy about boxing,
you know, that it was really hard to get
these guys together,
>> you know, and this was the whole idea
why everybody was excited about what
Riad season was doing and uh Turkey
alashshek and you know all those people
that put together these big ass fights
like Tyson Fury and Alexander Usyk and
the last one they just did Rico Verhu
and Usyk like they're putting together
these big crazy fights Like you that was
the thing that drove everybody nuts
about boxing and that's what drives
everybody nuts about MMA. The one thing
is it's the heavyweight division. The
fact that the best heavyweight or at
least the guy who was the lineal
heavyweight champion in the world isn't
even fighting for the UFC. That's crazy.
It's crazy.
>> Yeah. Who knows? Maybe one day, right?
>> Nope.
>> I don't think so. I tried to make it
happen.
>> Damn.
>> Yeah. I think we need to get those dudes
together. Look at that. Look at dunking.
That's crazy.
>> I know. See, that kind of ability to
throw your body around like that is so
huge as a striker. Yeah.
>> Because a lot of those guys are
plotting, you know, they're plotters.
They just kind of like wobble through.
>> I think what they need to do is get
Francis and the UFC together. They all
do mushrooms.
>> Yeah.
>> Just like make friends.
>> Yeah.
>> Because he doesn't have much time left.
I think Francis is 38. Is that how old
he is?
I think he's 38, which is different as a
heavyweight. Heavyweights have turns 40
in September. Whoa.
Not much time left,
>> right?
>> 40 you can do. But unless you're Bernard
Hopkins, fighting at a world class level
in your 40s kind of unheard of.
>> I remember when France when uh Bernard
Hopkins fought Kelly Pavick, a lot of
people did not think that he had a
chance.
>> Oh yeah, I remember it very clearly.
>> And he outboxed the [ __ ] out of Kelly
Pav. He looked so good.
>> Truly the executioner. I want to say he
was in his 40s when that happened.
>> I think so.
>> How old was Bernard Hopkins when he
fought Kelly Pavick?
>> He fought at a world class level until
he's 50 years old.
>> Yeah.
>> Nuts.
>> Yeah. Nuts.
>> We were all watching that one. Everybody
from Youngstown going, "All right, this
is it. We're going to get back on the
right path." Because it was after his
loss to uh Margarita, is that right?
Who's the guy that got caught with the
cement in his gloves against the one guy
Antonio Margarito? I do believe.
>> 43.
>> Wow. He was 43 years old.
>> Wow.
>> Crazy.
>> Against a 26y old.
>> Crazy. Especially at 170 lbs. Like
nobody thinks at that weight that you
you can be competitive at a world class
level into your 40s. Most of the time
like people just write you off on that
number. Yeah,
>> they don't even care what you look like.
Like he's not going to be able to do it.
>> Was he the first one to beat Kelly? Is
that what I just saw? Wow. Okay. So, he
lost to him and then that's where [ __ ]
started to get [ __ ] up cuz then he
went on a a bad run after that.
>> Well, when you got beat up like that.
>> Yeah.
>> It's just tough on the brain, dude.
There's only so many of them fights that
you could take.
>> Yeah.
>> Where you get really beat up like that.
Bernard put it on him.
>> Mhm. You know, there's been a a bunch of
fights where a fighter got beat up
really badly and then they were never
the same again. Melick Taylor versus
Julio Cesar Chavez, that's a great
example. Chavez just put it on him and
dropped him in the final moments of the
round and then Richard Steele stopped it
and it was like this crazy [ __ ]
controversy cuz he stopped the fight
with like one second to go in a fight
that Melick was ahead on the scorecards.
But the the real the real story of that
fight was that the damage that Chavez
had put on Melick, Melick was never the
same again.
>> Pavle actually won his next two fights
and then had a bad staff infection
problem.
>> Oh wow. So after he beat Sergio So he
was set to fight Paul Williams but to
major staff infection and allergic
reaction some antibiotics nearly killed
him. Whoa. He eventually was able to
fight again against light middleweight
champion Sergio Martinez.
>> Oh, Sergio Martinez beat him.
>> Martinez beat he beat him. He Martinez
beat him.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Um
>> by Yeah. Uh unanimous 12 round decision.
Sergio Martinez was a bad [ __ ]
too.
>> Yes, he was.
>> Yeah.
In late rounds, Martinez came up. Yeah.
It's it's a just a crazy sport, man. You
only have so many wars in you. There's
only so many times you could do that.
And the really clever guys are the guys
who just don't get hit much.
>> I went down a Maidana rabbit hole
recently. Oh my god, that [ __ ] guy's
a freak.
>> Oh, he's an animal.
>> What a career.
>> Oh, he was an animal.
>> Unbelievable. He fought everybody.
>> He was one of the few guys to really
rock Floyd Mayweather. Yeah.
>> Knocked his tooth out
>> and wore his tooth around a chain.
>> Oh, I love that.
>> Yeah. He He got Floyd's tooth and wore
it as a piece of See if you can find the
tooth that Maidonna had of Floyd. Look
at that. Look at that.
>> Oh my god, that is so cool.
>> How hilarious is that?
>> That's so funny.
>> He had his tooth put on a [ __ ] He
wears Floyd's tooth on a necklace.
>> Wow,
that's crazy,
>> boy. What a square jawed [ __ ]
that guy is, huh?
>> Yeah.
>> Look at that jaw. That guy looks like
you could hit him with a baseball bat.
He was a tough dude.
>> Insane career. I think he fought
everybody.
>> The Broner fight, too. He dropped
Broner. That was when Broner was in his
prime.
>> Yeah, he was a beast. It's a It's a hard
ass [ __ ] sport. Any combat sport.
That is a hard way to make a living.
>> Profitable.
>> Do you see all the stuff that's going on
with Floyd?
>> Yeah. I I can't wrap my head around it.
I don't understand how someone makes
that much money and doesn't pay taxes or
whatever.
>> Yeah. Well, I could tell you how you you
run out of money.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, you you spend so much money on
things.
>> You don't Do you think he has a business
manager?
>> Maybe he wasn't looking out for his best
interest.
>> I mean, just you got to put somebody in
charge of that amount of money.
>> You would think You would think $750
million would last you a while. Yeah,
>> he's I mean he's not even 50.
>> You give one guy 5%.
>> How old is Floyd now?
>> I Yeah. Put some away.
>> But the thing is it's like that
lifestyle. His lifestyle was all about
showing you his wealth. His lifestyle.
He's 49.
Imagine making $750 million and you're
49. You're broke.
>> Oh god.
>> That's crazy. But Tyson talks openly
about how he spent hundreds of millions
of dollars,
>> just went through it.
>> You know, if you're living that life
where you're just wearing diamonds
everywhere and you're buying crazy
watches and you know, Floyd does these
things. You ever seen way he he'll go
into a hotel room when he's traveling
and he talks about like the watches that
he brought and so he opens up suitcases
with millions of dollars in watches. He
just opens suitcase. You ever seen
these?
>> No.
>> Find them because they're kind of
hilarious. He's just trying to figure
out which one he wants to wear. He
brings them all with him.
>> Yeah. He's just showing off. He's
showing off that he's got two suitcases
filled with diamond encrusted PC
Philippes and you know
the the the most high-end watches. Look
at this. See if you do you have the
clip?
>> Here it is. Look. Play put some volume
on this. Look at this. are always in my
[ __ ] business worried about what I'm
doing, what Floyd is doing, what Floyd
ain't doing, what I do got, what I don't
got. Just know I'mma stay in my lane. I
ain't going to [ __ ] with nobody. And I
don't want nobody [ __ ] with me. If I
go on vacation, my fault. When I go on
vacation for 30 days, I take 30 watches
with me.
>> Look at this.
>> But you know what? You know what? What's
crazy is this. if we add 10 more days, I
take 10 more watches.
But then I say, "Fuck it. If I want to
bring out the one and only, then I bring
out the watch that cost $18 million."
>> Oh, Jesus.
Matter of fact, you know what I'm going
to do for you [ __ ] haters
today? I'm going to go [ __ ] off $50,000
cuz I ain't got [ __ ] else to do.
Money made all [ __ ] day.
>> You know what's crazy?
>> That's the problem. So that you can only
do for so long.
>> Yeah.
>> So if you have one $18 million watch
like, okay, let's not get crazy. Let's
not get crazy. You wanted to get it, you
got it. You have $750 million. You have
one $18 million watch. You can't have
18 watches
that cost millions of dollars. Like cuz
you're going to need more. You're going
to keep wanting to buy more. You're
going to keep you're going to run out of
money. How many Rolls-Royces do you
have? Okay. Each one of those is a half
a million dollars. You have four or five
of them. H how many Ferraris? You got 10
Ferraris. Okay. What?
Some of those Ferraris are almost a
million dollars. You have 10 almost a
million dollar cars. Okay. So, just in
watches and cars alone, we're looking at
50 60 million. Okay. And then you have
to make 120 plus to actually have 60. I
don't know if he's leasing them. I don't
know how he's financing things. I don't
know. But
>> I would love to know
>> the real
>> he can make that money back by he can
make the money that he needs back by
literally making a super documentary
about how he spent it. You ever seen
that 30 for30 broke about how the NFL
players all spent their money?
>> No.
>> Well, it's unbelievable. One of the
easiest watches ever.
And like it it's I got to be 30 for30's
like biggest production ever. Like it's
everywhere. It's it's just huge. And um
yeah, who the hell doesn't want to know
about that, right?
>> And I'm waiting on that Nicholas Cage
dock that I probably nobody's making
either where it's like because he's a
different version of that, you know,
about this.
>> He went broke.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> But then he made it back again.
>> Well, yeah. He works his ass off. So, he
went on a He's on a terror. He's just
making movies left and right. And uh
yeah, going from 100
>> he faced severe financial struggles in
the late 2000s, going from $150 million
fortune to being 6 million in debt.
Whoa. He never officially filed for
bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by
relentlessly taking on movie roles,
including direct to video films and
selling off extensive real estate and
assets. And
>> I guess he bought like a lot of T-Rex
skulls. Like he spent his money on like
crazy things. He didn't just go watches
and cars. He would find crazy pieces of
art and like old historical things, I
think.
>> Well, he was a movie star from way back.
You got to realize like what was his
first film? I think his first film was
like 1980 or something.
>> Yeah.
>> I remember him being a movie star when I
was in high school.
>> Yeah.
>> That's a lot of time of being in that
bizarro Hollywood bubble getting your
brain cooked by fame.
>> Yeah. He's one of those you can watch
him do anything like one of those freaks
where even though people will say I
don't like this Nicholas Cage thing, I
don't like that.
>> From an article about what he spent his
money on,
>> $455,000 for two snakes.
>> Okay, so it was $276,000
in 2005, the equivalent of $455,000
today. Thanks inflation.
>> How crazy is that?
What's the four? Think about that.
$275,000 in 2005 is $455,000 today.
>> Damn.
>> How fun is inflation?
>> Wow.
>> What was uh Nicholas Cage's first movie
>> officially?
>> Yeah.
>> He was in a few things like
unofficially.
>> Just that crazy movie with him and
>> Raising Arizona had to be like the first
big hit, right?
>> That was a big one. That was a big one.
His
new ones are good, too. These wacky
ones,
>> his filmography, if you go all the way
back, 1982, Fast Times at Ridgemont High
>> is Nicholas Copala.
>> Valley Girl is what I was thinking of.
That was in 83.
Yeah. Credit is Nicholas Copela. That's
before he changed his name because he
didn't want to be connected to what is
his uncle Francis Ford Copa. Is that
what it is?
>> Valley Girl. So, Valley Girl was 83. So,
I was in high school, dude. Arizona
Peggy got married. Those are big, too.
>> Big. Those were huge movies, dude.
Raising Arizona is so [ __ ] funny.
>> I saw that like a year ago. I forgot. I
forgot how funny it was. Remember Tai
Cob or Tex Cobb was in there? The boxer
with the flatten nose who fought Larry
Holmes. He did a bunch of movies.
>> Big white guy.
>> Yeah. Big big [ __ ] cornfed white guy
on the motorcycle.
>> Yeah. Oh yeah. He's great.
>> It's a Cohen brothers movie, right?
Raising Arizona is
those guys might be the goats. They
might be the goats of comedy. Them and
the brothers.
>> Yep. No doubt.
>> See how many amazing hilarious [ __ ]
movies and the Cohen brothers was. They
were always so out there. Everything's
so out there.
>> Some of their films are just like what
the [ __ ] are you guys doing?
>> Like King was Kingpin Fairley Brothers.
>> Yes.
>> Those guys too. Like without a doubt.
>> [ __ ] that was good.
>> Unbelievable.
>> [ __ ] That's a funny movie.
>> So [ __ ] great. So funny.
>> The scene where he's throwing up in the
toilet when she's talking about him
eating her [ __ ]
>> to pay his rent.
>> Oh my god. Oh, Woody's range is
incredible.
>> You know what I heard about that movie?
That they had primed all the actors to
get really excited when Bill Murray
throws three strikes cuz he had to throw
three strikes in a row. And so they
said, "This might take a while, so we're
going to really need your enthusiasm."
And then Bill Murray actually threw
three strikes in a row first attempt and
everybody went crazy like for real cuz
they were, you know, like they were said
this is not going to happen this way. So
when he actually did it, everybody went
[ __ ] bananas.
>> Nuts. [ __ ] Such a good movie.
>> I love it.
>> Dude, Woody's a freak, bro. since he's
moved here and goes to kill Tony and
like we hang out and stuff
only after like being making friends
with him. Like I knew he did a lot of
great stuff, but he sneaks up in so many
great things. It's insane. He's in
[ __ ] um what is the Conan Brothers
one with uh not There Will Be Blood. It
was made at the same time with Javar
Bardm. Oh my god, how am I blanking on
this? It's uh No Country for Old Men.
>> Oh, that's right. That's right.
>> He's in it. And he's not even They don't
even like promote him on that or
anything. He just comes in the movie
halfway through with all these other
[ __ ] greats and is crushing.
>> It's hard to think that that's a Cohen
brothers movie.
>> The People versus Larry Flint. He's a
freak of nature. [ __ ]
>> that thing that you sent me the other
day with him when he was playing LBJ.
>> Oh my god, it's so good. I randomly
stumbled across that one. And I'm like,
"Oh, I'll fall asleep to this." Woody is
LBJ. And it's one of those movies that
[ __ ] kept me awake because it was so
goddamn good.
>> Mesmerizing.
>> Super nice guy, too. Like easy to hang
out with.
>> Oh my god. The best.
>> Very chill with everybody. Just hangs
out when he's in the green room. He's
just like one of us.
>> Yeah.
>> Normal.
>> Yep.
>> You know, which is hard to do when
you've been famous that long. Just be
cool.
>> Yeah.
>> But also, he doesn't have a phone. You
get a hold of him. You got to get go
through his wife to get a hold of him.
He's smart. just insulates him from
himself from all the nonsense.
>> Brilliant.
>> That's the way to do it.
>> Yeah. But I think when you get to like
that level, you kind of have to or
you'll go crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> You know.
>> Yeah. He has this fun. He likes
laughing, sipping his tequila, smoking
his weed. He's got it all figured out.
Grows his own weed, makes his own
tequila,
eats live food or whatever, and just
laughs and enjoys life.
It's perfect. Yeah, it's nice to know
that people can make it through that
crazy maze
and, you know, you could either go nuts
and buy Tyrannosaurus Rex calls
>> or you could just completely disconnect
from it all and just be yourself. Just
>> just keep keep killing it.
>> I know him and Makana have a TV show
that's coming out
>> where they play Brothers, right?
>> Yeah.
>> I think it's on Apple TV coming out
soon.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, um, what's it been like? Like
the the weirdness, the post roast
weirdness.
>> I'm always surprised by these things.
I'm always surprised that
they last so long that anybody's talking
about it. It's so bizarre. I was
surprised
with the Pang Dang thing. I was
surprised at the Trump thing. And this
one is really surprising cuz with other
ones they're like, "Ah, there's a time
and a place for jokes like that or this
or that or whatever."
And this is the time and the place for
it is like the roast of Kevin Hart, you
know? I'm going to go for it.
>> Yeah.
>> And we roasted Kevin, you know? I did a
[ __ ] George Floyd joke in the uh at
the Tom Brady roast and I did a Who's
the white guy that shot people? Um,
uh, it's the same fan base as, uh, god
damn it, the kid that shot people up in
wherever.
>> Be a little more specific.
>> The white guy shot a couple people, had
a gun at a thing. They made it look like
it was black people, but it was actually
white people that he shot that were
shooting at him or had guns. What's his
name? Has the
>> I have no idea who you're talking about.
>> Damn it. David Lucas is friends with
him. Brought him to the club.
>> Oh, Kyle Writtenhouse.
>> That's it. That's it.
>> I did a Kyle Writtenhouse joke. I did
this and then this one, people are
offended or something. I don't know. And
yeah, if you just watch that clip on my
dismount, it's a crazy clip. But if you
watch the entire flow of the roast set,
it's just one last departing joke, which
that's my thing, man. It's like I knew
Earthquake would be standing up on his
feet like he was halfway through my set.
you know, h you know, there's standing
O's that are happening during my actual
roast. And on this one, because there
were so many people on it, it was such a
long big roast, you know, they set you
to an aotted time. So, I'm like, okay,
I'm going to do something I don't
normally do and blast off more jokes per
minute than I normally do. Instead of
milking it and getting applause breaks
and things like that, I'm just going to
create a bang bang bang bang bang final
stand of things. And you know what's
funny is that I have something that's
supposed to offend everybody. Like I
don't want you to like 100% of any of my
jokes. I'm not that guy. I'm healish.
I'm a bad guy wrestling fan. Exactly.
>> So what's funny is people got offended
about the George Floyd thing and people
a lot of people said, "Yeah, well Pete
Davidson did a Charlie Kirk joke." And
they're comparing these things from two
different spectrums. But what what they
didn't mention is that I did a Charlie
Kirk joke in my set. So, [ __ ] them. [ __ ]
them. [ __ ] them. [ __ ] them. You know
what I mean?
>> Everybody gets them.
>> Everybody gets it. Is always my
>> Everybody gets them jokes.
>> Everybody does. I said that Kevin has uh
what quite the fan base. He has more
gunfire at his merch table than Charlie
Kirk.
>> Yeah.
>> Or whatever. And um
so you know for them to for people to
nitpick that joke and be offended and
it's funny because it was a lot of uh a
lot of comedians a lot of black
comedians were like I'm upset about this
you know they made their videos which is
just hilarious because they're not on
the roast they're not in attendance at
the roast.
>> You you saw Tiffany Hattish
>> the that was the best one. Nobody
handled it better than her. find Tiffany
Hattish getting uh asked questions. Was
it a TMZ thing?
>> Yeah.
>> About uh the roast cuz she handled it so
perfectly.
>> They're trying to They were trying to
bait everybody.
>> Of course they were.
>> Everybody, even Cheryl Underwood, who
handled it all like a champ. We made
friends before at a Netflix brunch that
week that was uh for that festival.
>> Well, dude, I told you about Cheryl.
>> Yeah, she's the [ __ ]
>> She's awesome. Yeah,
>> I I worked with Cheryl in like the early
2000s, I think it was, in Montreal. I
told you she's a monster.
>> Yeah.
>> She'd go on stage with her purse on just
clutching her purse on stage and murder,
dude.
>> She would mur here's Listen to Tiffany.
>> She We look so good. Do you have like 30
seconds to chat? Really quick. Yeah.
>> So, talking about Kevin Hart roast,
right?
>> Yes. It was so much fun.
>> So, Lonnie Love didn't think so. Lonnie
Love was like, "You know what? It's
exhausting. It's edgy." specifically
about the George Floyd joke. What are
you thinking? Is it just comedy? Should
they have been a little less uh
>> I think it should have been shorter. The
show was too long.
>> I mean, I was sitting there the whole
time. I had to pee. Something I didn't
hear the George Floyd joke cuz I had to
pee so bad.
>> So, you went to the bathroom with that?
>> Yeah. I was a glorified uh seat filler
>> and I was tired.
>> Well, also I mean Lonnie and other
people were like, "Oh, maybe it was a
little too racially motivated." What do
you think as far as like the jokes? Is
this just comedy or are people taking it
too seriously?
>> Is this all comedians saying it that
wasn't invited?
>> That's the [ __ ] comedian Tiffany
Hattish.
>> Bro, that was her version of the Shauna
Ali walkoff kick.
>> I love it. I love it, man. You never
forget those people that actually are
answering honestly in real
>> well real comics. And again, it's the
same thing for 100%. She's not only is
it a fun walk-off home run, but she's
also 100% correct. There's nobody that
was there that was offended. There was
no ruckus there. It's just like
everything else where you leave and you
go, "Huh, this thing's this thing's kind
of crazily taking off, it seems." A lot
of people are talking about that one
joke at the end. It's so weird. Well, we
live in an outrage culture and an
outrage there there's a there's money in
outrage. There's engagement in outrage.
Outrage is the it's the commodity that
everybody wants. Yeah.
>> They want to be outraged. Yeah.
>> And they want to be right. And if you're
outraged and you've got a good point,
you just ride that [ __ ] thing for as
much juice as you can get out of it and
then you move on to the next thing.
>> Yep.
>> What are you mad at now? it. You know,
>> there's never in any of these things,
there's never a moment where I'm like,
"Okay, this could cause a problem." It
was, it's never been that way.
>> Wild. It was high fives.
>> High fives and laughter after my 300
p.m. set in a half-filled Madison Square
Garden waiting for the 8:00 p.m. arrival
of Trump to speak. I'm, you know, on a
34 person lineup. Everyone was thrilled.
Way to get the crowd going. I mean, it's
you're just getting the party started.
The lights were up. Like, it obviously
wasn't the best position for me on that
lineup, but the same exact thing. And
then it's like a little bit later, you
realize like, oh, they're making a news
story about the Puerto Rico joke of all
things. So interesting.
>> I told you that joke was going to be a
problem.
>> I would have never told you to do that
joke during that, but I told you that
was going to be a problem in your ad.
>> It wasn't supposed to be in my original
thing for that. was a last second filler
because they gave me more time than
everybody. It was a very bizarre thing.
They gave me more time for every bizarre
thing.
>> First of all, the idea that you would go
on after someone like who went on before
you, Steven Miller?
>> No, not it was the national anthem with
a guy painting a uh painting of things.
Actually, no. He went on after me. I
went on right after the national anthem,
>> but someone had some kind of like rahrh
speech. Make America great again.
>> I wish there was. That all came like way
after which is crazy. They just had me
on the wrong position on the thing and
uh yeah,
>> you should only do standup where people
are doing standup.
>> Totally. Totally.
>> It doesn't work.
>> Totally.
>> It's like But you got to say,
>> but then again, it did it did work in
house. The place isn't miked for sure
standup comedy or lit for standup or
anything like it.
>> No, they were laughing.
>> They were having a good old time. Well,
they're probably happy that something
wasn't stiff and boring, you know, like
taxes and [ __ ]
tariffs.
>> I mean, Rudy Giuliani went on like 3
hours after me.
>> That's crazy.
>> Yeah, it was a nuts all day. It was a
super long thing. My point being is that
it always surprises me that I'm the news
even though I'm because if someone else
said it, if it was a politician that did
it or someone else, someone high up in
the administration, that would make
sense. Same thing with the roast. If it
was a clean comedian, right? If Nate
Bargotsi or Jim Gaffigan were on it and
they said that, that's crazy. Me saying
it, that's normal.
>> They don't know that, though. See, the
thing is it's like you've achieved a
level of fame that like really snuck up
on people over the last couple years,
you know? It's because the rise of Kill
Tony has been completely organic. Like
there's been no promotion of Kill Tony
that made it become what it is. It's all
just people sharing it on YouTube,
sharing it online. That's all it is.
clips and these moments, you know, and
then, you know, obviously the Shane
moments and all the Kyle Dunigan. It's
been just so many amazing moments. It's
such a good show. It came organically.
And then you got to this point over the
last couple years of like, "Oh, we got
to pay attention to this [ __ ] guy."
And then we had a and then after they
started attacking you from the White
House thing or the uh Madison Square
Garden thing rather, which was 2024,
then it was on then it's on like Donkey
Kong, right? So that's two years later.
So now you're a guy that they go to like
to get mad at. And there's a bunch of
people like that online that that's
their business. Their business is people
are mad at them. They have hot takes.
People are mad at them.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean that's So you you've fallen into
that category. And so there's going to
be people that genuinely don't like what
you did and don't like you. And then
there's going to be people that are just
using it as a commodity. They're just
using it as outrage, which is part of
what the game is. You know, this this is
what they do. and their engagement, you
know, [ __ ] game that they play. And
it's kind of what we do in the joke
game. Yeah. You know, you get
engagement. You get people to laugh.
They You say outrageous things that you
don't even really mean, but it's because
it's a funny thing to say. It's just
like I always say, Bob Marley didn't
really shoot the sheriff. You know that,
right?
>> Right.
>> It's like it's just jokes.
>> Exactly.
>> Like when you say inappropriate [ __ ] on
purpose and that is like everybody used
to know that. Like Louis CK was a very
left-wing progressive guy when he was
saying really [ __ ] up things that he
didn't mean on purpose because they were
funny.
>> Yeah. Like that was what he did and
everybody was fine with it until
somewhere around it seems like it was
like 2016 200 like it started to turn a
corner where it became like people are
starting to take these things as
statements rather than as comedy
material
>> and they started trying to pretend that
the person really means this like that's
where it got crazy and that happened
around the time where social media
really came into prominence Because
before that there was no real avenue to
do that. There's no real avenue to
pretend you were really deeply upset.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, I'm sure there's some people
that were upset, but there's also a lot
of like people that are just ill.
They're online all the time on these
social media apps just arguing and and
spitting out venom and yelling at people
and they yell at them. It's like they're
in hell all day long. And anytime
something comes along, they could be
upset at they got to they have to have
their take. They have to have that hot
take.
>> Yeah. And if their hot take gets
engagement, they're all looking at their
likes. Then they just start re-engaging
with that subject and going back on it.
And this is the real problem. Okay.
>> Good luck with that. That's bad for your
head, kid.
>> Right. Exactly.
>> Very bad for your head. All those people
that I know that are like especially
comics that are doing it, the comics
that are doing it, almost all of them
don't have good careers. No, all of
them, right? None of them have like
impressive care, especially compared to
their contemporaries that are doing
well. And then on top of it, they're all
mentally ill. They're all people that
are [ __ ] filled up with
pharmaceuticals and they're going to
therapy. They're they're like literally
mentally ill and they're online talking
about fascists,
>> right?
>> You know, like stop. Like get your [ __ ]
together. No one your opinion is not
that valuable to people because they
know that you're [ __ ] up. Do you not
understand that?
>> Right?
>> Like the way you view the world is is
it's not a healthy balanced perspective.
like you're viewing the world in this
like mentally ill lens.
>> Well, the whole online thing doesn't it
doesn't even convert to sold tickets or
a bigger thing. It it's such a temporary
drug for them to get to fill this void
of what they're not doing,
>> right? It doesn't convert to them people
wanting to go see them. No, I mean some
people maybe they get like a little
juice out of it, but it's not enough
because you're also opening the door. If
you do become popular, you have to
understand that if you've been spitting
hate at people for a decade and then you
become popular, boy, that hate's coming
your way.
>> Oh yeah,
>> it's coming your way, you know. And I
mean, this is one of the things that I
said after the Mensia stuff. I said,
even though I think it was the right
thing to do, I wouldn't do it again
because it's just too much.
>> Yeah.
>> It's just too much. You just you create
all you just feel the darkness of it all
the negative. It's all negative. It's
all negative. Even if though it had to
be done because you've got this guy with
it. It showed me how completely
absent of morals and ethics the business
is completely absent,
>> right?
>> They knew what he was doing and they did
not care. They didn't care because they
were profiting from it. This is the
conversation that I had with my agent
when they were dumping me.
>> I said I I told them, I go, "You're
making a mistake right now that's going
to affect the rest of your life. You
have to understand the choice that
you're making. you're choosing to align
with someone who in any other industry
that person would be in jail,
>> right?
>> If that person was and also if this was
in literature or if this was in music,
they would be sued into high heaven.
Like there's songs that like they don't
even seem like they're that close to
each other and people had to give like
songwriting credits to it.
>> Yeah. Oh yeah. like songs like people
get inspired by certain songs and then
they write a song that sounds close
enough that there's a rhythm to it that
people get upset.
>> Well, there's only so many notes and so
many chords and there's only so many
beats and so much timing. And it's often
the same thing with comedy. Like there's
some crossovers in a writer's room,
which I've been in so many of. So many
people writing on the same subject will
have the same joke. Uh it's only when
it's like what Mensia was doing word for
word long form. Well, that was a
different thing. What he's he was a
buccaneer. That was a totally different
thing. But there's songs like, okay, so
I was listening to this video the other
day or watching this video the other day
rather that was comparing um Radio
Head's Creep to an older song and they
had to give Creep uh Radio Head rather
had to give this older song writing
credits for this which sounds so
different. And then Radio Head accused
Lana Del Rey or someone from their
organization accused Lana Del Rey of
having a song that ripped off Creep
>> or was sounded too much like creep. And
it did sound a little like creep, but it
was very different. Like it should be
obviously this is like inspired by it,
right? If that's the like Elvis
Presley's entire career was inspired by
black musicians
>> like the way he danced and moved and the
way he sang. So it's like what are we
doing? Like there's stealing and then
there's inspired by. Inspired by is what
we were all doing. It's like we were
talking about that computer earlier,
that chip manufacturing thing. That
thing was built on the back of all the
[ __ ] super wizard geniuses that have
been working on all the different
technology that led to that being. You
can't just invent that in a vacuum. You
have to invent that on all these other
inventions that have taken place for
decades before you.
>> Right? This is the It's like with music.
It's interesting how ligious they are.
>> Maybe it's because they're run by a
certain group of people. Totally.
>> But they're so good at like suing
people. Like uh Bittersweet Symphony.
You remember that song?
>> Oh yeah, totally.
>> They had to they had to give all their
money to the Stones.
>> Yep.
>> Because it was uh what song?
>> Uh it's um
>> what's Perplexity?
while Tony is
>> or while Jamie rather is.
>> Don't do that, please.
>> Oh, I can't do that. That's right. No,
you can't. Oh, we have to get us. I
know.
Song called the last time.
>> If if I mean, we learned this the hard
way cuz I have an actual band that can
play anything and everything. And years
ago, they could play anything and
everything. Our old episodes hold um cuz
you know, I'd literally be to a you
know, a shy person. I'd be like, "What
do you you know, you ever do karaoke?"
They're like, "Yes." I'd go, "What song
do you sing?" And then they they go, "Da
da da." And I literally they would go
right into it. And now you can't hum a
song for a few seconds.
>> So Bittersweet Symphony was a sample
from uh the Verve developed Bittersweet
Symphony from a sample from a 1965
version of Rolling Stone song, The Last
Time,
uh adding vocals, strings, guitar, and
percussion. After a lawsuit by the
Rolling Stones former manager Alan
Klein, the Verve relinquished all
royalties to the Rolling Stones members
MC Jagger and Keith Richards, who were
also added to the songwriting credits.
Wow. 2019, 10 years after Klein's death,
Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son seated
the rights to the Verb songwriter
Richard Ashcroft because he was probably
broke. There's similar things that have
happened recently with uh I think Olivia
Rodrigo and Paramore and then like uh
Puff Daddy and
>> Yeah. Can you please look up the other
one that I set up though? Um which was
Radio Head Creep, Lana Del Rey. And
Radio Head Creep had to give uh
songwriting credits to another band.
>> The Holl.
>> The Holl. That's right. What was the
original song?
The Air That I Breathe.
It's interesting when you listen to
Let's listen to them. See if you could
find that. There's a comparison video
that I watched uh on um YouTube. See if
you could find that because it's
interesting how they they they say the
first one and you're like, "Geez, I
don't see it." Well, we'll have to edit
this out, ladies and gentlemen. But you
could find it yourself. Radio Heads
Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free
versus The Holl's The Air That I
Breathe. Yeah, that was a live version
of it, but if you uh hear the recorded
version of it, it's even more
You could see,
>> but people get inspired by things.
>> I get it though.
>> I get it in those cases, especially like
the beginning of the Holly song and then
the beginning of Radio Head, like
dead on.
>> Yeah.
>> They're set in a mood, like a very
specific mood. Have you ever seen how
the guy from here's a crazy one. The guy
from the Gorillas, the song Clint
Eastwood, I think it is, he had a like
one of those like little kids kind of
keyboards
and he hit the demo button because like
oftent times it'll just have a regular
song or whatever. And um it's the entire
backbone of their biggest hit.
Um, you'd have to you'd have to pull it
up, I guess, to understand, but it's
that.
Yeah, there it is. So, that's just on
the thing. Wow.
>> And somehow they got away with it.
>> Wow.
>> And then all they do from there is just
>> That's it. That's the preset. It's the
rock one preset.
That's so crazy. They used that. They
used a preset from
one of them little machines like a toy.
>> And much like the [ __ ] crazy jokes
that end up getting me in trouble, I bet
they don't even think that's going to be
the hit. You know what I mean? Like
they're probably not like, "This is the
song that's going to fly off the
shelves."
>> Yeah, but other people see it. Tony, I
was the one who told you you're going to
get stabbed for the Puerto Rican joke.
>> There was that was so many years later.
It's crazy. I was doing that joke during
the pandemic to the point to where it
got extended to where you were part of
it. And what's funny is I left those
tags of the longer joke out of the Trump
rally one which probably would have
protected me. It probably would have
saved it going, "Ah, it's going to get
me stabbed." Whatever. You know what I
mean?
>> Then you would have to do the Amy
Schubert joke.
>> Well, yeah, there was a lot to it. Yeah.
People don't realize that that's a small
bit of a much much bigger chunk at the
time. Well, that's why it should be in a
set. You know, of course, comedy is a
such a weird art form. I mean, look, I
love it to death, but real comedy should
be seen in person.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> You know, Stan Hope said this once, like
it was like everything we do on TV is
just to try to get people to come see us
in the clubs. Exactly.
>> Like, that's really what it is. Like,
you just really want people to go there
live because that's the real fun.
>> Yeah.
>> The real fun is all us, a bunch of human
beings [ __ ] around and having a good
time, right? soon as you start taking it
seriously and making it something that
it's not like you're
I get why you're doing it because that
has become a thing that people do today.
But I'm just saying like for your own
mental health just not it's not good for
you to be engaging like I was saying
about the Carlos thing like just
engaging in conflict. It's not good.
It's not good for you. It's bad for you.
>> Yeah.
>> Feels bad. It's not good. It's not it's
you this is ne there's negative energy
and positive energy. You should spend as
much of your time possible on things
that make positive energy. I know that
sounds hippie and because I'm a little
bit of hippie. I got a lot of hippie in
me, but that's what I believe. I believe
you should spend as much of your time
having fun, making people laugh, having
a good time, and less about dwelling on
[ __ ]
>> Yeah. That's why I try to stay off
Twitter because when I get on, I just
start freaking out at all the different
news stories that are just abomination
after abomination where you're just so
angry.
>> It's just impossible now. And and you
know, it used to be Twitter was Twitter
and this and that, but really it's just
the news. X is the news. It's so hard to
>> absorb that. It you it was fun and you
know it's cool and all and my algorithm
still shows me stuff that I love. Police
chases gone wrong and and UFC highlights
and all of this stuff, but all the stuff
around that is just crazy. I did a thing
because I was staying at a hotel
in um in uh DC right after the State of
the Union or something. Anyway, I'm
like, "Okay, it's a hotel TV. I never
get to watch regular TV. I'm going to be
asleep in a few minutes anyway." So, I
threw on um I ended up going by CNN. I'm
like, "Let's see what these wackos are
saying over here. Let's see how fake the
news can possibly be because from what I
understand, the most recent State of the
Union was a solid State of the Union and
very positive and long and entertaining.
Let's see what they say. Oh, racism
this. He caused the deaths of black
people here. He's the reason why we why
America's failing. It's the reason why
we're the laughing stock of the country.
It made me so stressed out. And I'm
like, "Okay, well, let's see what Fox
News is saying." And it was crazy over
there. And then you have [ __ ]
>> What did they say?
>> Uh well, they had their counterpoint
person on, unlike CNN where they're just
all in agreeance. Yeah. Yeah. and going
by six people literally going, "Yeah,
he's the worst and let's not forget that
he doesn't think trans people deserve
this and this and like they're just
going on and on about straight doom."
And Fox News had a counterpoint person
that was stressing me out. And you know,
and I swear to God, I'm not kidding.
This is not a joke. I was flipping
through the different ch by MSNBC. I'm
like, "Oh my god, this is crazy." I put
on Silence of the Lambs
>> to calm yourself down.
>> I swear to God, I was asleep five
minutes later. Silent and I ended up, it
just coincidentally was on the Buffalo
Bill part where like he's got a girl in
a well in the basket
>> pure darkness and I'm like
finally some peace on the cable
television. I never get to just watch
normal TV.
>> So, did Fox News have a positive spin on
the State of the Union address? I did
not watch it. I remember for some reason
it was stressing me out whatever was
going on because like they have they at
least Fox has they'll argue still like
the news used to be they'll have both
sides on and kind of talk it out and CNN
has that poor guy that poor one guy that
just takes all the bullets for everybody
is just going lying this is that stat
doesn't exist Jennings.
>> Yes. Yeah.
>> That poor guy is probably he probably
has months to live. He takes so many
bullets every day. He's a [ __ ] war
hero out there.
>> It's uh it's a very turbulent world when
it comes to discourse. It's just
everybody's mad at everybody else. It's
really weird to watch. It's really weird
to watch these these shows on CNN now
that are basically like bad podcasts
that get interrupted every five minutes
for a commercial. It's really what it's
like.
>> I just don't I don't remember it being
that way where it's just so many panel
opinion shows. I remember it was it was
more like CNN used to have Bourdain's
show on Y,
>> you know, where they would travel around
the country and
check out or travel around the world and
check out food and it was interesting. Y
>> and he would, you know, give you his
perspective on the cultures and all the
the problems and the things that these
people were facing and their food and
what what the community was like. It was
[ __ ] great show. They did a bunch of
different shows that were different, you
know, and then somewhere along the line,
man, they just went all outrage.
>> Yeah.
>> And I don't think that's going to get
any different now. I mean, now it looks
like Barry Weiss is going to be running
that as well. So, she's running the CBS
News and perhaps she's going to be
running CNN. The same company's going to
be running CNN. It's like, okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Good luck. Good luck. Because it's
already People already don't want to
listen. They don't want to take it
seriously.
>> Yeah. they, you know, and that's why X
has become the news. The reason why it's
become the news is because they can't
trust the news,
>> right?
>> You know,
>> totally. It's crazy over there.
>> Like Tim Dylan had these two New York
Times reporters on his podcast and uh I
listened to him talking about it. I
hadn't listened to them on the podcast,
but I listened to him talking about it
and he was saying that uh they said
there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein
was intelligence. And I was like, "What?
What? There's no you [ __ ] watch one
Mike Ben's episode of my podcast where
he breaks it down. It's almost
impossible that he's not
>> right.
>> Like what the [ __ ] are you like no
evidence? No, that's not true. There's
just evidence that you're not
considering. So it's like if the New
York Times and the people that we're
always supposed to trust to be the
objective purveyors of all that's going
on in the world, if they're compromised,
so they're not allowed to say things or
they have narratives that they could
they're supposed to spin one way or
another or they're very cautious about
being honest about their opinion, very
very shielded about their actual
opinions. Either either one of those is
not good or if they actually believe
that that's not good either because that
means you're not really paying attention
objectively. Like watch a Mike Benz
episode where he breaks down Epstein's
connections. It's nuts. The whole
thing's nuts.
It's crazy that anybody could say that
he wasn't intelligence.
>> Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And but
they will do anything to push their own
story.
>> They don't. Yeah. It's it's a propaganda
network.
>> Yeah.
>> And whatever that propaganda is, I mean,
that propaganda will shift depending
upon who's in control of the realm of
the of the U reigns, rather. the realm
really is a realm realm of nonsense.
Well, whoever's in control, they're
going to be the ones that dictate how
the narrative goes. And it's always
going to be whatever the sponsors are.
That's why you never hear anything about
any of these studies that they're
showing about the vaccine safety signals
that they found very early on, how they
hid it, all this Fouchy stuff. They're
they're not showing any of that. the
Tulsi Gabbard speech. We talked about
that where, you know, she gave this
speech explaining how he lied to
Congress and Fouchy had pressured these
other scientists to change their
perspective on whether or not it was
gain of function research and
>> Yeah. the [ __ ] that we had a pretty big
feeling about back in 2020.
>> Yeah. You don't hear any of these
people. They're not covering it.
>> Yeah.
>> And they can't because they can't really
tell you the whole news. They can only
tell you the news they're approved to
tell you.
>> That's not good. And that's how X comes
about.
>> Yeah. That's how X becomes the place
where everybody trusts. But then you go
to X and it's just filled with
horseshit. There's so much lies. There's
always video of something happening and
they're saying this is going on right
now. And you're like, and then someone
says, "No, this is a video from 2022.
This is in, you know, this part of the
world. This is AI.
>> This is China. This is not Israel. This
is, you know, it's like there's so much
horseshit and there's so many bots."
>> Yeah. It's like you just dip your toe
into the water and you just feel
poisoned. You're like, I got to get out
of here.
>> Yep.
>> But then you feel irresponsible for not
paying attention.
>> Exactly. And I feel like so many people
feel like they're doing the right thing,
watching the news and being informed and
they hear
>> that the news is fake and they think
that's just like a Trump talking point.
I've always said that Trump calling it
fake news was like one of the worst
things that could happen because then it
sounds like a Trump thing and the Trump
enemies go Oh, fake news. Sure, it's
fake. If he's saying it, then it can't
be fake because we have to disagree with
him. Meanwhile, it's a [ __ ] It's a
goddamn production. I mean, it is
>> fake.
>> And
>> they're right. It's fake.
>> Yeah,
>> it's fake. There. A lot of the news is
fake. It's not true. All that I mean,
the fact that no one got in trouble for
all that Russia gate stuff,
>> crazy. Absolutely crazy. and that they
still listen that the same people that
were pushing that Russia gate [ __ ] are
they're still giving opinions on TV,
>> right?
>> It's nuts.
>> Yeah. There's no repercussions to be
found. They get to say whatever they
want. It's crazy.
>> Well, the repercussion is no one takes
them seriously.
>> And that's real. They've suffered that.
I mean, uh we've seen that in real time.
And I think the p the pandemic was the
big that was the big wakeup call for a
lot of people especially people that
were forced to take the vaccine because
they had jobs or you know they had a fly
or they had family members and then they
they got some horrible side effect and
those people got what they call
redpilled you know I know a lot of
people that got redpilled from that.
>> They just can't take it anymore.
>> It's crazy and it's bubbish. You know
what I mean? And there's certain areas
geographically
in which that's the mentality and they
stick to it. I mean, here in Austin, I'm
known as, you know, uh, a skinny little
[ __ ] I went to LA and it turns out
I'm a racist Nazi. Like, I'm like, they
were doing jokes on me at that roast in
which it's like, "Oh, what are you guys
talking about?" There's parts where I'm
literally like, "What the I've never
even heard this about myself. I'm on a
comedy show every week where people take
shots at me and I've None of this is a
thing.
>> Well, it's made up and it's all They
also made up a bunch of stuff about like
you going to Saudi Arabia.
>> Yeah.
>> Which is crazy,
>> right? Crazy.
>> They just made it up.
>> Yeah. Not only made it up, turned it
down. Like didn't go when offered vast
sums of money that the bus boy, bag boy,
Tony would never imagine turning down.
And people don't even know that you
turned it down cuz you haven't been
public about it,
>> right? I mentioned it. I me glazed over
it on one for one moment on Kill Tony
once. But yes, the people that turned
down that money are you and Shane
Gillis.
>> Yeah. And meanwhile, Netflix clipped
that and po and pinned it on their
Instagram that joke. And with the
caption, long sip because I'm sipping my
water because the joke isn't on me, so
the camera shouldn't be on me.
Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction
shot to, "Oh, you guys took that Saudi
Arabian money." And make it makes it
look like I'm offended or something or
guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money.
>> But just a joke when you just lie about
a fact and to make a joke is crazy.
>> Mhm.
>> Cuz you're just lying. Like that's
there's a difference between that and
making a joke about something. Like you
had to make something true and then
criticize them for something. So you had
a lie about something and then criticize
them about that lie that you just
invented.
>> Yeah.
>> Which takes three seconds to find out it
wasn't true.
>> Exactly.
>> It takes a really quick search like,
"Oh, he didn't go."
>> Right.
>> Okay.
>> On the contrary, the the guys that
Chelsea was complimenting during that
set. Basically, Kevin Hart and Pete
Davidson did take the money and went to
Saudi Arabia.
>> Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler
would have taken that money if they
offered her to go to Saudi Arabia? He
went to dinner at Epstein's house.
>> Exactly.
>> What the [ __ ] are we talking about?
>> But it's all right cuz Woody Allen was
there.
>> Yeah. And apparently she gave him the
what have you.
>> She told him. That's what they said. She
told him she was very upset with him.
>> Um Yeah. At the intelligence agent slash
sexual predator's house.
>> Yeah.
>> Guys who arrested for statutory rape.
>> Uh that's fine though.
>> Crazy.
>> Just Yeah. Don't be a white guy.
It's enough.
>> It's just the whole thing is so stupid.
Like if you want to make fun of someone
for anything, for you know, you looking
gay or you like you're down with that.
But there you when you invent a fact
that's not true, you say it's not true
and then you criticize someone for that,
like that's stupid. That's a stupid way
to do comedy.
>> Yeah.
>> You know,
>> and the way that it's covered and
everything, it's like what what are you
guys doing? Well, if you didn't know and
people didn't know obviously because
they laughed. They thought you maybe you
did go or maybe Shane did go. They
didn't know that you were the two people
that did say no.
>> You know, Jessica Kersson went and she
got criticized so much she gave her
money away.
>> She gave the money away. I think she
gave What did she do with the money?
Find out what she did. But I was like,
"Oh man." Listen, those people that went
to see Jessica Kers, first of all, I
heard she murdered over there. She's
very funny. She's a [ __ ] dynamo.
She's a killer on stage. Very, very
entertaining. Lovely lady. I love her to
death. She's fun to talk to.
>> She [ __ ] murdered over there, I
heard. So, a lesbian woman from New York
went to Saudi Arabia. Look at donates
Riad Comedy Festival fee to human rights
campaign. Well,
>> wow.
>> All that money is going to someone's
payroll.
>> Yeah. It's going to, you know what I
mean?
>> Daycare center in Yeah. you feel better.
But meanwhile, someone it's paying for
someone's salary that's probably not
fixing homelessness or whatever the [ __ ]
it is.
>> That's what they do. Tom Siguro went and
put a photo of a Ferrari and said,
"Thanks, Saudi Arabia."
>> Yeah.
>> But everybody was very upset. But my my
perspective is um the people that are in
that audience, if you're upset at the
people that that are paying and
organizing, okay, the people that are in
that audience though that they're
performing to, they don't get a chance
to see American standup comedy and
they're getting a chance to see it live.
And standup comedy, like music, like
literature, changes people's minds. It
changes all art where you see someone, a
different person than you with a totally
different perspective that lives on
another side of the world that says
something that you think is hilarious
and you love. It changes, you know, it
changes people's perspectives. You win
hearts and minds. I mean, that's real.
Like you you can change the world a
little bit by getting people to say,
"Hey, we kind of are we all have a lot
of shared interests. We just want to
have fun. We just want to be with our
friends, be with our family, and do what
we want to do." Like everybody wants
that, including those people in the
audience. Like those people in the
audience in Saudi Arabia were just Saudi
Arabian citizens. They're just a bunch
of people that lived there. They came
out to see comedy. Like performing in
front of them. I mean,
what is wrong with that? It's was wrong.
You're supposed to boycott it because
the people that run it probably were
involved with the killing of Jamal
Kosigible in some way or the people that
finance it. Okay.
Maybe I see I see how you didn't want to
do it and I see how Shane didn't want to
do it and I probably probably wouldn't
want to do it either. But I don't have
any problem with people doing it because
I think at the end of the day you're
just like I don't have any problem with
Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing
matches that I talked about. I love that
they put on these boxing matches and
oddly enough that's not really
criticized that much even by like
heavyduty left-wing MMA media which is a
real thing. Um there's a lot of like
[ __ ] [ __ ] libs that are MMA media um
just because they're journalists and
they just happen to be fans but they
have that like hardcore leftwing
perspective. They don't seem to have
that much of a problem with it. Not like
people had the problem with the comics
over there where guys like Louie and
Bill Burr, they just get destroyed for
that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts.
>> But I think Sigura had the right move.
Just don't even pay attention. [ __ ] off.
I'm going to perform wherever I want to
perform, you know.
>> Yeah. No, it makes sense. Totally. I
just can't go straight from a Trump
rally to Saudi Arabia. Like a little bit
of a hop, a skip, and a jump.
>> I know. It's also It's like, you know,
is that what you want to do? I don't
want to go there. It's too long,
>> right?
>> So, I want to be on a plane for 16 hours
to go anywhere.
>> Yeah. Exactly. That's why I hate it. I
hate flying.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] off.
>> It's terrible.
>> Come to Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
>> It's just we live in a very polarized
society and I think a large part of that
is what we were talking about earlier
with social media and mentally ill
people just just screaming into the
[ __ ] void every day.
I just would like to suggest to people
just try not to engage like that for a
month and see how much better you feel.
>> Yeah.
>> Just try it.
>> Talk and make friends.
>> And hopefully that's not how you've set
up your life where you have to do that
for a living. Hopefully, you're not one
of those people cuz there are people
that are paid posters and they make a
pretty good living just posting and
getting engagement. Well, you know, I
don't know what to tell you. You're
trapped,
>> right?
>> You know, if you're if your whole thing
is like [ __ ] on people all day long,
you're kind of trapped.
>> Yeah.
>> But you can't feel good.
>> There's no way.
>> No,
>> there's no way. It's like the amount of
cortisol that must be pumping through
your body all day where you're going
over and and I see like people that do
that. I see how they get destroyed in
the replies and I'm like and I know
they're reading that like good lord.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I don't know how Gavin Newsome is
still alive. Every time he posts
something the way he gets destroyed in
those comments is like
>> [ __ ] insane.
>> Well, no one is happy.
>> It's just the funniest thing because
it's it he reminds me of like one of the
last actual politicians. like he's a
different just lying,
ignoring of facts type of human being
because we're witnessing it. Maybe it's
easy for someone in uh I don't know, New
Hampshire to go, "Ah, that Gavin
Newsome's the future." But we lived in
California and I've been to San
Francisco recently and we've seen it.
Like when you travel, you know,
comedians aren't the end all be all in
these wise whatever sages perhaps, but
we do travel a lot and you spend a
weekend in a city and you're not just
doing your shows. You're having lunch
somewhere. You're having coffee
somewhere. You're dealing with the
people at the hotel lot, whatever it may
be. There's different communications and
vibes and energies. And there's so many
of these places, especially California.
You know, San Diego's like a last stand.
Huntington Beach is an air area around
there. There's like these little pockets
in which there's still some common sense
and happiness. Enjoy Newport. These
little pockets,
>> but those major cities are [ __ ] man.
even the drive and you know I go to LA
basically maybe once a year now for a
quick always fun visit always doing some
arena and a couple nights at the store
which is different unfortunately but the
drive from LAX to that area of West
Hollywood/Bly Hills is gruesome
everything is for lease everything is
empty
um there's nothing new except for the
crazy looking weirdass Obama Museum
library, which is the craziest, weirdest
eyesore humanly imaginable. Where is
that?
>> It's like on the way up there. I can't
remember if it's like off of La Sienna
or Fairfax.
>> That's not the new one. Cuz the new one
is in Chicago, isn't it?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, it is. What's the [ __ ] They built
something that looks just like that
monstrosity.
>> No, the one in Chicago people don't like
it. I think it looks dope.
It looks like
>> It looks like something from Bladeunner.
>> Yeah,
>> I like it. A lot of people don't like,
but it cost a lot of money. Cost like
$850 million. See if you can find out
what that building looks like.
>> Show me a photo of
>> something that looks just like that
building.
>> Sports complex on in Los Angeles they
made.
>> Who did the Obamas?
>> Yeah, I don't know if that's
>> Oh, okay.
>> Um
>> what is the um the one in Chicago? A lot
of people were criticizing it and I saw
it. I go, "That thing looks dope. I love
it." Like that thing. Where is it? Yeah,
the the one there where your cursor is.
Click on that.
>> Oh, that's a rendering.
>> I don't think it's done yet.
>> Oh, it's not done.
>> Maybe. I don't I mean, this looks like
>> I thought people were in it.
>> I don't think so. I think they
>> What's it down there in the lower?
>> They just showed this online and
everyone was going crazy.
>> I thought people were already going to
it.
>> I don't know that.
>> Um
I think that's it. That looks like a
rendering to me. That looks fake as
[ __ ] But that one down there, that one
down there with the darkness in the
corner.
>> Yeah, right there. Is that real?
>> Encyclopedia Bratannica.
>> I think that's a real photo. I think
it's done. I might be wrong.
>> Oh, you have uh Los Angeles, Chicago.
Yeah, it's real. So, it's up. But I I
think it looks cool. It's different.
People are saying it's ugly. It looks
like See if we can find photos of it. Go
to images.
>> Yeah. Just Yeah. We go. Like there,
dude. I think that looks dope.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> That window list.
>> And look at how all the writing on the
top. What does it say? Go all the way
up, please. I'm
>> trying.
Oh.
Uh, unconstrained
>> convention by what is?
>> It's written on two sides. So,
>> I think you're missing.
>> Oh, right. Oh, it goes all the way
around it. Oh, that's [ __ ] cool. I
think that looks cool. I mean, maybe I
have no taste.
>> I mean, we can't even find an angle of
what they're trying to say there. So,
>> right. I don't know what it's saying,
but I think it's cool that they did
that. That they had words that go across
like that. I just think it looks sick.
>> But I like that kind of brutalist
architecture. I think that's what they
call it.
>> Yeah.
>> I like that kind cement with big glass.
Like there's a lot of houses like that,
especially like in the Hollywood Hills
that I love.
>> Mhm.
>> I looked at one of them
>> back when I was starting to make that
cheddar. And uh I was like maybe I
should live in Hollywood and then I
could just do the store right there. But
I was like
probably not that safe. I looked at the
house um above um the store that Mitsy
was selling.
>> What was it on Kfax? Was that what it
was? Was that the street? It was the
comic store. The comic house where like
Kenisonson stayed there and Paulie lived
there for a while.
>> But I had dogs and I was like this is
not enough backyard. It's too small. And
also it's like it's too close to the
machine.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like right next to the beast. Like
I don't know if I want to be like right
next to the beast. I think I'd rather be
outside the beast and go visit. Yeah,
>> like that for me, for my head.
>> But, uh, I looked at a couple of houses
up there and one of them was this house
that was like really it was out of my
budget really. I was just I shouldn't
have been looking at it. It was like 10
million bucks and it had crazy like like
concrete with massive windows, but it
was right there on the street.
>> Like you're walking on the street,
there's a sidewalk you could lean over
and touch the front door of the house. I
was like,
>> "Yeah,
>> this is kind of crazy to buy this
house." And the guy was like, "Don't
worry, we have a state-of-the-art
security system." So I go, "Yeah, you
know what that is?" I go, "Your camera
is going to catch a guy with a ski mask
robbing you."
>> Yeah.
>> And two weeks after I said that, the guy
who owned the house got shot in it.
>> Whoa.
>> Two weeks got shot in the neck.
>> [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> Damn.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So,
>> hey,
>> that's these places, man. But the ar
that kind of architecture I think is
dope. I like like that crazy modern
cement stuff. But for a house like what
you're going to live in the reality is
you'd probably be like I'm sleeping in a
museum. This is too weird.
>> Yeah.
>> I'd rather just have a regular house.
>> Yeah. Windows are a necessity.
>> Yeah. I just want to see stuff. I just
want to be able to open have a cup of
coffee and see some trees, you know? Let
me just sit down and [ __ ] collect my
thoughts for the day, you know? I don't
necessarily need to be in a [ __ ]
museum. Concrete ass big. It's there's
something weird about it. It's like
you're too weird. If you live like that,
you're weird, man. You're you're living
with this giant
20 foot high glass wall in front of you
that looks out at the bladeunner scape
that is Los Angeles from the hills. Have
you seen that view at night? Have you
ever been up to a house?
>> Oh, yeah. Have you seen this house?
>> Oh, that's sick. I love that house. It's
known as like the Oakley Founders House.
I don't know if he still owns it, but
>> Yeah, that's up there.
>> Yeah,
>> that house I love. See, if I was single
and a baller, that's where I would live.
210 million. A bargain.
>> [ __ ] love that [ __ ] I see [ __ ] like
that, I'm like, "Oh my god, that's where
I love it." But I don't want to live
there for real.
>> Yeah.
>> I think after a while you would be like,
"I'd rather have a log house." I was
trying to find pictures of Kanye's
concrete house, but this is not the one
I was looking for specifically.
>> I just love those kind of houses that
look like that. Like especially that
one, that circular one.
>> The way you pull into that driveway and
the the entire back house faces the
lights and you see the lights like it's
hard to see from photos of how Look how
sick that looks, man. That's sick. I
love that. But the lights from that,
like if you're up in the hills, you want
to be above looking down. And it's like
a movie. It's like a sci-fi movie. It's
one of the coolest [ __ ] views I've
ever seen.
>> Holly has the [ __ ] as crazy as it
sounds, that [ __ ] when he made
it, he bought a house that's on top top
top of the Hollywood Hills with that MTV
money.
>> Yeah,
>> dude. It's crazy. He remodeled it
recently when I was there for the
festival. He's like, "Dude, you got to
come see the house. Come see the house."
I'm like, Pauly, I'm so busy. That's
very highly unlikely. Come see the
house, dude. You got to come to the
house. Sure enough, I went there one
afternoon for a [ __ ] coffee. Bro, it
is crazy. He was right. He's got the
house. He did it. It's on top of
everything. So, there's if if a robber
does try to go up there, they're robbing
someone else's house. They don't want to
go to the tippy top of the [ __ ] hill.
That's a tough escape.
>> That's the problem is the escape. You
want to be close to the bottom so you
can
>> Right.
>> Speaking of which, I've been watching uh
I got went down a rabbit hole the other
day on YouTube
>> where uh street racers
>> and there's this one guy
>> uh who is like a famous street racer
because uh there's all these videos of
him. He got his uh his thing set up
where he can shut the lights off. He's
got this black Corvette. I'm gonna send
this to you, Jamie. I
>> think I've seen this guy.
>> Yeah, his name is really slow.
like R Y L SL O
um and he's got videos of these cop
encounters. So they he like baits cops
and then goes on these mad runs and you
you watch it, you go, "Holy shit."
>> Oh, I love it.
>> Cars on the screen.
>> Yes. This is the dude.
>> Yeah.
>> About him, not just
>> Yeah. This is well he's like a legend
online because he does interviews only
with a voice changer where it takes his
voice and it makes it like that where he
describes all the modifications that he
did to his car. But he puts a 3D camera
on the back of his car and he uh you
know they have those things where you
stick it on the back of your car and it
gives you a 3D view of the automobile
and he has video of the cops like
flashing their lights and his car has
got a 1000 plus horsepower. So these
poor cops and they're like 300
horsepower [ __ ] Crown Victoria. They
try to chase this guy and he just
disappears and then once he gets out of
the line like go back to that video
where he was before. Watch this.
>> I mean it's this is it's edited. It's
not his videos. It's just someone
>> I I understand but if you just I know
this video but if you what what he does
is they start pulling him over and in
the beginning when they pull him over he
hits the gas and then shuts his lights
off. Did you pass that spot? Here it is.
So So this is it. So they hit the lights
and he's like, "See you." Are they going
to show it?
>> Yes. This is not the
>> Okay. So this is not the compilation. So
when he does it and he hits the gas, he
gets far. Here it is. He gets far enough
away from them. They're not showing it.
>> These [ __ ] they have to edit
their own [ __ ] Leaving it alone is
better. So he gets ahead of everybody
and then just he has a button where it
kills his headlights and he's using
night vision.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. It's nuts. So, is this it?
>> Says he enters ghost mode here.
>> Yes, this is it. So, this is this guy.
So, his license plate says, "We'll run."
>> Like, it's a fake. It's a fake license
plate. The cops get it behind him. They
hit the lights and he goes, "Bye."
And the cops realize there's no way to
catch this guy. It's not. Look at that.
>> Oh.
>> Lights go out and he's gone.
>> And he's flashing lights on people to
get them the [ __ ] out of the way. And
there's no way to catch him. And then he
bangs U-turns. He knows where he's
going. He plots it out. And the thing
is, he's filming this and uploading it.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So, he's got to hide his identity
through how many different channels? How
does Instagram not know who he is? How
is he posting? I guess he's using a VPN.
He's probably using a proxy and he's
probably going through some other
country or something. If he's smart, if
he's smart enough to avoid detection,
but he just has these [ __ ] crazy car
bills. It's like he's got a Calvo Viper
that has like I mean I don't know how
many [ __ ]
horsepower that thing has, but they make
some of these COVID Vipers. It's a
company here in Texas. They make Vipers
that have 2,000 horsepower.
>> Damn.
>> What? Like where
>> the [ __ ] are you talking about?
>> Does anybody know where does he always
do it in the same city?
>> He's in I think he's in the Dallas area.
>> How fun.
>> Well, yeah. Well, not good if he kills
somebody, but it's uh very spooky.
>> Yeah,
it's nuts, man. Because this [ __ ]
dude uh really knows how to drive, too.
And you see these poor cops and one of
them, the cops wipe out. They slammed
into another car and
>> oh [ __ ]
>> they're trying to pass by these cones
and the road cuts off and the cop hits
the cones then loses control of his car
and slams into another car. Like people
can [ __ ] die. Especially if he runs a
red light and he runs a lot of them and
someone's being an idiot. Maybe
someone's doing exactly what he's doing
while he's running the red light.
>> Dude, you have to see what Kanye's doing
right now. It's a it's a historical
moment in all of art. It's unbelievable.
>> Yeah. You said the he's standing on the
globe, right?
>> Well, not only that, he the entire
everything is a super production and
it's all him. like you could tell he's
made every decision and tweaked
everything to the to the color of
everything to when it happens to how it
happens that it's not too much. He's not
overwhelming the senses with lasers and
lights and all of this. It's all so
strategic. But most importantly, it's
first of all, it's the [ __ ] greatest
production I've ever seen of anything.
And I come from Pink Floyd land where
the live show has to be ahead of its
time and state-of-the-art and everything
for my mind to be blown.
And I was expecting this to be like
every other rap concert that I've seen,
which is going to be fun and good and
maybe great. Of course, it'll be great.
But this was like a thousand times my
expectations because first of all, he's
doing pop-up shows at stadiums, which is
crazy. He announces it a week or two in
advance and the stadium's like, "Okay,
we're sitting empty that night. We'd
love to sell beer and water and get a
percentage of merch, right? How these
venues work." They don't give a [ __ ]
And he's not promoting it. Everyone else
that's been to one or seen one is
promoting it. And then the mayor of
whatever city or whatever leftist
person, whether it be the governor of
that state or whatever, is like, "This
shouldn't be happening." So, they're
promoting it for him. and it's filled to
the top of the [ __ ] stadium. Whereas
even Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones or
whoever announces a tour all at once and
goes, "Hey, buy tickets. I'm on tour.
Pretty. Please come." Right? He's just
like San Antonio July 4th.
>> Like a week ago, literally. And what's
crazy is that my buddy
got me tickets to go see him in Tampa
because as all we knew is that he was
going to Tampa. And so there I there I
was and I'm looking and it's filled to
the top and the floor is filled and it's
he doesn't stop. He doesn't take a
break.
>> There it is.
>> I saw that on Instagram after his first
one that he did. I think it was in LA
and I'm like, "Oh, that's crazy. I need
to see this.
>> That is nuts. That stage is nuts."
>> But these pictures and videos do not do
any justice to what is happening
soundwise, energywise. Just that stage
alone is [ __ ] insane.
>> It's crazy. And he enters at the he
walks through the crowd because
obviously it's in the round. He comes
out and you hear a pop from one side cuz
they can kind of see him and then the
globe turns on and you know he waits
until it's dark. So he is he enters at
one point and then inside is a a um a uh
a lift that only takes him. So like
there's no one that can storm that stage
or anything cuz it's inflatable on the
outside. So it's an impossible
impossible to, you know, storm the stage
or anything like that. And he's the only
one that has access to the lift
obviously. And he has a tether that he's
attached to so he doesn't go off or
anything.
>> So it doesn't fall into the balloon.
>> Exactly. And it is the most diabolical
show I've ever seen in my entire life.
Ever. And that includes all the [ __ ]
everythings. And again, I come from the
school of Pink Floyd, which is always
10, 20 years ahead of its time
production-wise.
And this was [ __ ] nuts because he
does not stop. He does not take a break.
He doesn't go, "Thank you guys for
coming out." Until the very end in which
he goes, "It's all about love. I love
you guys. Thanks for sticking with me
all these years when all these people
said this." And then by that point, two
and a half hours in when he's saying
that, you're just like, you got to be
[ __ ] kidding me.
>> When you realize the bulk of his work,
how many bangers that guy has,
>> it's nuts, dude.
>> Bangers.
>> And I, as an experiment, took my one
buddy who said that uh, you know, part
of the group was my one friend who has
always been like, I don't know, you
[ __ ] love Kanye. I mean, not really
my thing, but he's not he's just not
really a rap fan is the reality. So, I
invited him on this trip and his mind
was [ __ ] now he's a diehard Kanye
fan. Now he's going back and, you know,
realizing that he's always been a Kanye
fan. Like, it's such a crazy [ __ ]
thing because not only does he have hits
on hits on hits, but he does not stop in
between songs because some of his beats
kind of correlate or this and that.
He'll literally just keep going and
going and going until his amazing on his
new album, he has this keyboardist with
one of those like crazy blow into tube
instrument things. I don't know what
it's called, but he has a solo, a big
one on one of the songs, which is gives
Kanye a minute and a half to catch his
breath, an hour and a half into nonstop
going. And also on top of all that, you
know, a rap concert's a rap concert, but
Kanye is the greatest producer of all
time in that industry. So every noise
that's happening, even if he's not
talking or or singing or rapping into a
microphone, is all him and him only. You
know what I mean? like he might get an
idea or an inspiration as we've talked
about or he's a master of sampling
um old hit songs and having them be in
the backbone of the thing and
everything, but this was it's just a
whole another level. Absolute insanity.
Like I thought I was going to go there
and be like, "Yeah, and maybe, you know,
move a little bit or sing along or
whatever." And instead my jaw was
dropped the entire time.
>> Is there anybody that ever bounced back
from being canceled like him? And that's
really the underlying thing. There's
this feeling of loyalty that's there.
And we're right. You know what I mean?
There's a feeling that everybody there
is like they're
correct.
>> Does that make sense? Like I saw a
breakdown of it cuz my algorithm's
feeding me Kanye stuff non-stop since I
went to it cuz somehow [ __ ] Instagram
knows and whatever. And I watched a
breakdown of it talking about how like
it's like this psychiatrist or energy
specialist or something that's talking
about how and why this is the craziest
concert ever done before. And she breaks
it down and goes, "People that like
Kanye believe in themselves." Because
if Kanye saying, "I'm the greatest. I'm
the man, I'm a god, all of these
things," makes you not like him and you
insecure,
you're insecure. Does that make sense?
Like it's like he if if that turns you
off to somebody, then you don't really
like yourself that much.
>> Why do you think that?
Well, again, this was someone else's
psychological breakdown of it, and I'm
probably not explaining it correct
because I was stoned on a couch, but
>> I see how what they would be saying to
try to defend him, but there's some
people that just get turned off by that
kind of braggadocious
rap music.
>> I don't.
>> Right.
>> I love that [ __ ]
>> Well,
>> I I love 90s hiphop talking about how
great they are. I love it.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm a giant fan of that [ __ ]
>> Yeah. You know, I think like some of my
favorite rap lyrics, like some of Nas's
lyrics, just him talking about how he's
the [ __ ]
>> Yeah, totally.
>> I don't mind it at all. But it's like
it's when you're singing along to that
stuff and you're listening to that
stuff, like you're feeling what that
guy's feeling when he's saying it. And
if his raps are hit, if his rhymes are
really hitting, especially like Kanye or
any of the greats, you know, Biggie,
Tupac, Nas, like when when they're
nailed, it's like,
>> oh my god,
>> with good lyrics and good execution.
It's a be it's a [ __ ] amazing art
form. Even if USA really did create it.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't I don't want to believe that,
you know. I think they probably very
they promoted it. What's really
interesting is the lack of big rock and
roll bands. I know Jaime's kind of
defended this, but Right.
>> I think it's a fact.
>> Oh, no. No doubt.
>> There's less big rock and roll bands
than when we were a kid. When we were a
kid, rock and roll was everything.
>> It was like rock and roll. And if you
liked rock and rap, like you were a
weirdo,
>> you know?
>> Yeah. Like I really became a rap fan
like almost like silently like secretly
>> because you had to be a rock fan. If you
if you loved rock music and you went to
rock concerts like that's all you liked.
But I was like yeah but this is good
too.
>> Oh yeah.
>> You know I'd like listen to ghetto boys.
I'll be like you got to listen to this.
Come listen to this. [ __ ] is awesome.
>> Yeah. Oh my range is absolutely
ridiculous.
>> Our green room.
>> I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl. Oh. Oh,
yeah.
>> Pretty Woman.
>> Oh my god. And again, that's one
>> We're gonna be in trouble for that
>> probably.
>> [ __ ]
>> [ __ ]
>> And again, Pretty Woman, much like Pink
Floyd's Wish You Were Here, is like one
of my when you get into their radio
stuff, it's kind of funny how some bands
and musicians get like typ casted by
their hit, whereas like Pretty Woman's
kind of repetitive and easy, even though
it's a jam, right?
>> Mhm. but his other songs that like I
hadn't even heard before because I'm
like this guy seems like he has some
[ __ ] some hits and he does man and uh
you know I what I mean by the Pink Floyd
thing is it always fascinated me that
people go ah yeah I like Pink Floyd Wish
You Were Here Another Brick in the Wall
and it's like damn it it's because those
are their radio songs cuz they can't
play an 11 minute long Shine on You
Crazy Diamond or all their real hits
that they're real echo. which is like 17
minutes and goes slow and fast and and
bluesy and then jazzy and this and that.
>> Um
>> yeah, there were so many songs like
that, especially from like the 70s where
they just took wild chances and had long
ass songs like famously Freeird like
record executives were telling them like
the beginning of it is too slow.
>> Yep.
>> And they're like nope this is the song
>> exactly.
>> This is what it is.
>> Yep. There's another one. Yeah. Whole
lot of love.
>> Yeah.
>> Whole lot of love has a minute and a
half of [ __ ] sounds.
>> Mhm.
>> And symbols and [ __ ] It's weird.
>> I only recently got to see the uh the
Queen movie, whatever that is. Is that
Bohemian Rap City?
>> I believe so.
>> Whatever they call it.
>> I haven't seen it.
>> Yeah. Well, I walked in on a part where
it's the rec they're at the record
executives's office and he's going,
"This can't be the main single off of
this thing." And and Freddy Mercury's
like, "Dude, it [ __ ] has." And I'm
obviously not quoting this, but
>> uh and the record exec's like, "Man,
you're saying gibberish at points. It's
slow with a piano. You're saying things
that don't even make sense and it's
[ __ ] 8 minutes long. Like, what are
you thinking?" And they're arguing back
and forth and back and forth. and his
bass player, guitarist, or one of the
guys that's in the meeting with this
record exec sitting behind a big fancy
desk points at the wall and goes, "So,
you were the record exec that made this,
huh?" And he points at Dark Side of the
Moon, and you see the record exec, "Oh,
fuck." Because what the [ __ ] was that?
It starts with a heartbeat, has no words
for the first what, however long.
>> Also, what is the deal with it aligning
with the Wizard of Oz?
>> Crazy. Roger says it's just
coincidental.
>> I know.
>> But it seems like the universe organized
it. Yeah.
>> It almost seems like evidence of the
simulation.
>> Yep.
>> Because it's so good the way it lines
up.
>> Yeah.
>> It's too good.
>> I've always said it's the craziest
coincidence of all times.
>> I feel like it's evidence of the
simulation.
>> Mhm.
>> There's something about it. There's
evidence of like some weird bizarre
synchronicity between those two pieces
of art.
>> Yeah. The produ producing that would
have been near impossible.
>> Impossible. Not like he couldn't, but
just the amount of planning and figuring
things out and the technology then would
have been so hard to do.
>> Yeah. So hard. Pink Floyd would had to
they would have literally have to watch
it and then go over each beat and
decide.
>> How high was the person that figured it
out too,
>> right? Got discussed. But like how do
you notice that? Like hold on. Is it
It's going It's still going. It's 45
minutes.
>> But meanwhile, it's perfect. Like we've
watched it before. It's perfect. The
lyrics are the scariest part.
>> God,
>> which one is which at one point when
only when the only moment when both the
good witch and the bad witch are there?
>> Yeah, it's nuts.
>> And the wildest one to me is always when
she's balancing on the thing, you know,
in black and white with the other
farmers around and on the run that crazy
starts and she falls off at that exact
moment and chaos is happening. It's
crazy. Is there a why in that
conspiracy? You know, like why would
they have done that just to do it?
>> Just for funsies. Just because they were
picking Floyd.
>> Yeah.
>> There's a lot of rumors you could have
picked.
>> Well, I mean, Roger Waters says it was
an accident.
>> I know. I'm just saying like
>> I know. I know. But the conspiracy
theorist I don't know. I mean, I would
imagine they think that I brought the
people that believe that it was some
sort of a coordinated conspiracy.
>> It's like, why wouldn't they say that?
Why wouldn't they just say we we lined
it up with
>> be awesome.
>> The Wizard of Oz. Yeah. If they said
that it would make more people watch it
and more people listen.
>> Well, they did pretty good off of it.
>> Yeah, they did pretty good.
>> Who were we to give them advice?
>> Yeah.
>> Speaking of doing pretty good. You're
[ __ ] killing it, dude.
Congratulations.
>> Thank you, buddy.
>> That's awesome watching it all.
>> Thank you, man.
>> You're taking all the hits. Keep on
moving. Keep on trucking. Just makes you
stronger.
>> On to the next one.
>> Makes the jokes better. New jokes are
killing it.
>> Yeah, it's fun. We're having a good
time.
>> Yeah. Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the
best. Working them out at the
mothership.
>> Yes, sir. All right. I appreciate you,
brother.
>> Thank you, man. Hell, yeah. Bye,
everybody.