You wrote a Substack article in July
titled Palunteer to rule them all. What
does Palunteer know about the person
watching this podcast right now?
Palunteer
what it's trying to do
is trying to trying to take all
databases and become the database
to rule them all.
>> Right? So, it's trying to look at your
employment history, your school history,
your health records, your police
records, your purchases,
your cell phone data,
your um smart appliance data, like
everything. and trying to compile a
um psychological profile of who you are
that is predictive, right? And why is it
predictive? Because we just do what
we've been doing our lives as well as
what our friends do. These two things
that's all paler needs just a record of
your past behavior as well as record of
your friend's past behavior. And with
this two set of data pattern is very
easily able to predict what you will do
for the next 50 years. I know it sounds
scary but most of us are like that. Just
based on just a few piece of information
I'm able to project your life for the
next 50 years. I'll ask like five
questions. Okay.
Where did you grow up?
Who was your father? Who was your
mother? What do they do? Your parents.
Okay. Uh who are your 10 closest
friends? What what's your job history?
And um what do you like to watch on
YouTube? Okay. With this five piece of
data, I'm able to compile a psycho
profile on you. Why? Because of big
data. because you think you're unique,
but if I take a billion people and I use
these five pieces of data to categorize
you,
um you fall into a certain category and
the people in this category will behave
certain way. So all I need to know is in
this category of people, what are they
doing at age 40, age 50, age 60, age 70?
And then I'm able to project your life
for the next 50 years. So it's not that
complicated uh what Palunteer is doing
but there are certain constraints on
Palunteer's ambition. Okay. The first
constraint is you need a lot of data
centers because people don't appreciate
this but why is it that these databases
are separate? Why don't combine all the
databases into one? The reason why is
the way that computers work is when you
combine databases there it is not a
linear growth it's an exponential growth
if that makes sense to you. Okay. So for
me to analyze two databases
and for me to analyze four databases
the difference is not double the
difference is maybe quadruple. All
right. So, it's an exponential growth,
not a linear growth, which makes it
impossible to analyze too many
databases.
That's problem number one. Problem
number two is
if I really want want to do this
correctly,
I need to collect data that is pertinent
to my database.
Right? So rather than me shift through
90% of useless data, I just need to
collect data that would be useful for
for my purposes.
All right. So basically, how do you
separate noise from signal? And the
solution to that actually is to burn
everything down and start all over. To
rebuild site in a way that allows all
databases to
um assess your data in a way that allows
me to predict your behavior and control
your behavior,
right? Just bring everything down and
rebuild from from from scratch, right?
Another problem is social resistance,
right? So people don't like it when
they're being monitored. uh when they're
being controlled and when they're
manipulated. So you you need to retrain,
reprogram the population to get them
accustomed to this.
And the best way to do that is to create
a religion around AI Jesus, right? To
have a generation um of young people who
didn't really know what life was like
before AI and data centers and the
control grid. They didn't know that the
microchip in their head is actually a
microchip
um and not an angel talking to them
every single day. Yeah. I guess a lot of
Christians don't even remember their
baptism. That's interesting.
There's a lot of
content on social media about people
destroying flock cameras. Do you see
that as a real issue or is that just a
distraction from the phenomenon you're
describing? I think the American people
are unique in the world. I think the
American people uh because of US
history, because of the culture, the
first and second amendment are very are
very important in American culture um
and just because of popular culture,
Americans tend to rebellious authority
and that's unique in the world. you if
you go to Canada, people are like really
obedient. Go to Europe, pretty obedient.
You go to um China, they're pretty
obedient.
The Americans
um take pride in their independence,
right? The sort of like the frontier
myth, rugged individualism. So I think
it's very it'll be very hard to impose a
AI control grid on the American people.
I honestly think that in the world the
last hope is United States. I think that
if the United States falls then humanity
may be lost forever and 100 years from
now um humans will never ever know time
when we were allowed to have
conversations like this when you were
when you were allowed to think for
yourself. when you were allowed to rebel
against authority.
>> So do you see flock as part of the
system?
>> Uh it's part of the system and uh the
system is moving towards the an AI god
system.
>> When do you predict
AI will kill its first human?
>> Well, it's already happening. I mean uh
these algorith algorithms um are able to
decide who goes to prison. And if you
look at the algorithm, these algorithms
are very racist. You know, if you're a
black person, an AI judge is much more
likely likely to imprison you than if
you're a white person. Um, you know, you
have um these
um self-driving cars and they um they do
kill people. drone warfare, a lot of it
AI that that that's where Palunteer is
moving towards AI drone warfare because
that's the future of of warfare. A lot
of these decisions like who to kill
using drone strikes, it's made using AI
nowadays.
Um it's humans that have veto power, but
often uh it's the AI that makes the the
uh decision.
But we'll never have a we'll never reach
a time when the AI is completely
autonomous. When when there's an AI god,
it'll always be humans manipulating
things behind the scenes. So the example
is money. People think that money is
just the um basis for society and it is
objective and independent. That's not
true at all. It's complete nonsense. The
example is, let me ask you this
question. You're a bank and deposit put
a million dollars in your bank and I'm
an entrepreneur. I come I borrow this
million dollars to start a restaurant.
Okay. Deposit put in a million dollars
and then you gave me a million dollars.
How much money do you do you have in the
bank now?
>> 2 million. The correct answer is 2
million. Okay. But most people would say
zero. Right.
>> Right. People don't appreciate that
every bank has the ability to print its
own money by issuing loans. Okay? Like
the bank um how it calculates things is
uh each time it issues a loan, it's
considered an asset. That's why the most
valuable banks in the world today are
Chinese banks. Not because the they have
the most deposit of money. is because
they've issued the most loans these past
20 years to fund all these
infrastructure projects in China. Okay?
So, wealth creation is completely
man-made. Wealth destruction, as we've
discussed previously, is also man-made
because the elite also destroy wealth
through wars and financial crisis.
Because if you're going to create
wealth, you must also destroy wealth in
order in order to maintain the illusion
that wealth is valuable.
Same with artific artificial
intelligence.
Do you really think when you ch put
something into chatbt it's really
generated by the AI?
Do you really believe that?
I guarantee you it's not true. I
guarantee you like it's being
manipulated by humans
>> right
>> somewhere in India.
>> Okay. Do you think there's actual humans
typing
>> respons? I guarantee you. I guarantee
you when um you ask a uh Chachi PT to
gen you an essay, right? You ask him
like, you know, write me a paper on
Napoleon and the Battle of Wateroo.
Okay. I think what happened was a human
first wrote that and then is inputed
into the AI model and then absorbed into
the AI model and we can figure in a way
that seems as though it was um uh AI.
Okay. Okay. So let me give you an
example. All right.
Everyone thinks that
language facial recognition is created
through AI.
It's not AI. It's something called
supervised machine learning. All right.
So, let's look at face facial
recognition,
>> right?
>> How is computer able to differentiate
among a million faces, right? You you go
to the airport,
they take a scan of your face and they
know it's Jack and you're like, well,
that's really impressive. It's not
impressive. All All it is, it's
database. It's a database search and
sort system. Okay. So, I put a million
faces into this database and now I need
to match it with name. How do I do so? I
turn your face into a topographical
model. Okay. Now, to do that, I I I need
to figure out the weights of this model.
Okay. The weights are maybe your nose is
5%, your eyes is 2%, your eyebrows is
3%. And your bone structure is 2%. Okay?
So, like a million weights. Okay? Right?
What people don't appreciate is a humans
are designing these weights.
Okay? humans are the ones who are
designing these weights and what the
algorithm is doing is trying to
precisely
figure out uh what these weights should
be right. So I make a guess and say okay
uh I should be 2%. Well the algorithm
through constant iteration like millions
of iteration figures out it's actually
2.3382%.
Okay, but I first gave it a range and
then it figures out the precise uh
calibration. Okay, does that does that
make sense to you? Yeah, this is really
important to appreciate. Chat GBD does
the same bloody thing. Okay, you think
that the answers um that that are being
gen are completely uh AI or completely
computer generated. It's not. There's a
lot of human manipulation going on in
the algorithm.
um there's a lot of u human intervention
to make sure that the answer conforms to
certain expectations right okay now
maybe it's 90% AI 10% human but it's
still 10% human meaning you will never
have a time when the AI is completely
independent of humans have you been in a
whimo
do you think there are humans monitoring
the whimo
>> that That was what I was thinking about.
It's that they cut that it was just
drivers in India. Right.
>> That's right.
Right. There's no way there are no
humans monitoring the Whimo cuz the
liability would be tremendous. Right.
>> Right. Same with the little food
delivery devices.
>> Exactly. There's got to be humans
monitoring this and the humans are able
to take remote control. So just think of
these ways as drones. That's all. It's
not that impressive if you think about
it. M. So they're not producing the
actual like text that you're getting,
but maybe if you ask a question and and
it hits like a safety rail, they might
intervene then. Is that kind of what
you're saying?
>> So So I think the level of human
intervention was vast in the beginning
because like in order for the chachi
chachi to generate essays, it needs
samples. It needs a lot of samples,
>> right? So it needed humans to actually
write these samples and then uh the ch
system is able then to generalize and
then expand on that because quite
honestly look school
there are not that many permutations of
assignments right right if someone sees
a course in Napoleon there's maybe like
10 questions that will appear as a final
essay question
>> I mean they spent hundred of billions
billions of dollars developing this AI
where do you think the money
Right. Training.
>> Yeah. The training the training models.
Okay. And now it has to constantly u
absorb more human expertise in order to
to refine the model.
>> We've talked about esquetologies which
are ways different religious groups view
how the world ends. Uh you said quote
the Freemasons will create artificial
intelligence in Jerusalem and this will
become the world government. Do you
think Freemasons are creating an AI god
in Israel? So
um there are different esquetologies
and um different esquetologies are
trying to achieve different things.
Where they achieve this I think is not
that relevant. So, before I thought it'd
be Jerusalem, but now it seems more like
it'll be Washington DC. Because if
you've been following news about Trump's
ballroom, um there's a lot to suggest
the ballroom is actually a data center,
right? Why are they digging so deep? Uh
and why is it a lot of the contractors
are data center contractors?
Well, I think the ballroom is a data
center.
>> And why is this important? Because if
the data center is under the white
house, it's protected by executive
privilege. Meaning Congress has no
authority to inquire what the data
center is doing.
With the data center, you can now as
president of United States have your own
private NSA, CIA, and FBI. Really, you
you can have files on everyone in
Washington DC. You know exactly what
each senator, each congressman is doing.
It's it's it's it's like you you no you
no you no longer need Epstein island.
You have you have your own private data
center and knows exactly the
vulnerabilities and the weaknesses of
every powerful person in the world who's
building that data center. um
contractors that have experience
building um um data centers and I think
Palunteer will ultimately be uh be one
of the companies running
um this data center. If you look at the
major contributors to the um Trump
Ballroom, you you can Google that right
now. It's mainly I technology companies
like
like why would they donate to a
ballroom,
right? M
>> and why is Trump obsessed with a
ballroom? All he cares about is stupid
ballroom. There's a war going on in the
Middle East and he's like all he cares
about is he needs that ballroom now.
Supreme Court recently um uh said he can
now build his ballroom. So, he's very
happy about this. I'm not sure if you
said this one or if this was something I
came to, but do you think the AI god
like we'll have a human face?
Um, right. So again, Joe Rogan said that
Jesus may come back as an AI, right? So,
um, and we talked about the possibility
that rather than have this fake alien
invasion, you can just hallucinate the
return of Jesus. Um, that I think would
be much more
uh influential and much more effective
than you if you had a fake alien
invasion. Uh, because there are millions
of Americans who would
see this AI Jesus as the real Jesus.
They will not be able to differentiate
the the hallucination from the reality.
They won't even care. Do you think Trump
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back to the podcast. Do you think Trump
thinks he might be that? I think Trump
knows he is that.
So, um, one one person I think is very
important to understand how Trump thinks
is Natalie Harp. Natalie Harp is the
woman who was in charge of Trump's
social media post. Like what Trump will
do is dictate the social media post and
and Natalie Harp will type it out. She's
called the human printer
and she is fanatical about Trump. In
fact, it was Natalie Harp who posted
social media post of Trump being Jesus.
Do do you remember that that post of
Trump being being Jesus? That was
Natalie Harp. So Natalie Harp thinks
Trump literally is Jesus. And again,
this is like basic human psychology. If
I'm an 80-year-old guy and there's like
this really hot 35year-old woman who
every day thinks I'm Jesus and who looks
at me like I'm Jesus, I think I'm Jesus.
>> People are underestimating the impact of
this young woman on Trump's psychology.
Who is she?
So to understand who she is, let's
figure out how Trump
thinks, right? So
in the year 2016, who do you think is
most beloved to Trump
in the year 2016?
If Trump
um ha were doing things for a certain
individual, if he's like, you know, I'm
running to be president of United States
just so that this person can be happy.
>> Steve Bannon. No, no. I mean like like
like who is most beloved to to Trump?
>> Oh, uh Funka Trump.
>> Yeah. The daughter, right? Right. I mean
like and I I think you know just look at
his comments
um during um you know before he became
president like you know like like you
know how and he she he's always like how
hot her daughter is right it's like well
if I want her father I you know um was
most beloved to Trump and I think
there's part of Trump who's like I I
want to become president because I want
my daughter to be proud of me
but And if you remember
after January 6, Ivanker Trump and Jed
Kusher ran away because they thought
Trump was dead in the water. There's no
way he's coming back from this.
So, if you're Donald Trump
and your beloved daughter at your
greatest moment of peril
decides to abandon you, I think that
would be much more devastating than
anything else in the world. Okay? So,
that marked
a low point in his life there. But there
are certain individuals who refuse to
abandon Trump. In fact, they would
reassure him during this time at his
greatest moment of peril. Okay? They
include Miam Alison.
They include Sean Hannity.
They include Nile Harp.
Natalie Harp during this time not only
refused to abandon Trump, but she went
out of her way to ingrat herself with
Donald Trump. So, so there's certain
news stories, right? So, this is before
Trump became president. Okay. But
Trump's campaign were at Bedminster Golf
Club in New Jersey and Trump's people
hated Natalie Harp. They thought she was
a pain in the ass. So they basically
didn't arrange a room for Ni Harp for
that summer at Benminster. You know do
you know what she did? She's like I'll
sleep in the locker room.
She slept in the locker room the entire
summer.
When Trump was in New York for a court
hearing, there was no sitting for her in
the motorcade. So what did she do? She
jumped into a trunk of an SUV just
because she refused to be away for from
Trump for two hours.
If you're Donald Trump, okay, and your
most beloved
abandoned you at in your darkest hour.
In your darkest hour, another woman who,
by the way, looks a bit like I Trump
comes into your life,
I think she now becomes your most
beloved. I don't know. I think that's
just human psychology.
And if she loves you because she thinks
you're Jesus and you are here on divine
mission,
but not just her, but also like Sean
Hannity and Mary are telling are telling
the same thing, right? You're here on a
divine mission, you'll probably believe
them. So when Netanyahu comes to you and
says, "Donald,
we need to attack Iran
because otherwise
they'll get a nuclear weapon and Jesus
can't return."
Donald, you're here because you're the M
me Messiah bin David. You're Sus the
Great. You're here to save the world.
You're here to save the Jews. You're
here to usher in the return of Jesus.
And Natalie Harp telling the same thing.
You're going to believe this crap.
And the tie in with AI here is just that
this gives Trump the authority to
operate outside of the surveillance
state that he exists in now. No, Trump
is will become the civil state, right?
because he wants a third term. And so um
these are different esquetologies. Okay,
you have the Jewish messianic
esquetology
which is basically the completion of the
greater Israel project. Okay, and that's
what's happening in the Middle East. But
then you have the Freemason esquetology
which calls for the creation of an AI
god. These things are different,
right? So the creation of an AI god
means an AI control grid where
you will need a monarch
in order to usher in an AI religion
around Jesus
and impose it by creating a control
grid. So you need someone
who's crazy enough to want to do this
and who's charismatic enough that
millions of people will go with it.
If Trump declared one day I'm the
Messiah, how many Americans do you think
will actually believe this?
What percent of America's evangelical
Christian? Uh a quarter.
>> So at least a quarter and then all of
MAGA.
>> Maybe not a quarter, but like 10 million
people at least, I think. Yeah. And
that's enough
10 million because they will now fight
and die for the Messiah.
You don't need everyone. You just need
people who are willing to fight and die
for for you. Is anyone against this?
>> Well, okay, let let's just say we're in
New York City, right? And we're like
there's 10 million MAGA fanatics who
believe that Jesus is a Messiah. And
quite honestly, a lot of them already in
their hearts do believe this. and
they're intent on a revolution to create
a Trump monarchy. Okay. And we're in New
York City.
What is our response
to this revolution?
To these fanatics?
We're moving to Europe, guys.
We're getting on a plane and moving to
Europe. That's the extent of our
um resistance.
We're not going to pay taxes to Trump
anymore. and we're going to write angry
letters and we will no longer buy you as
goods.
There's no resistance to Trump. It's a
joke. DC, how many degrees from the
equator is that?
>> I don't know. Uh do you know?
>> No. I I I was curious because you'd
broken down the Freemason esquetology
and
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, uh, if you look at the
equator,
um, Dallas, where JFK was shot, is 33
degrees north of the equator.
Hiroshima Nakasaki, also 33 degrees
north of the equator. And then you have
um the Trinity site where where they
tested the first nuclear weapon, Los
Alamos, that that's al also 33 degrees
north of the equator. And what this is
important is um they say that
Freemasonry is obsessed with men being
God. Okay? And how does men become God?
Well, man becomes God by kill by doing
three things. The first is to warp the
nature of reality. That's that's that's
what nuclear weapon is, right? You're
warping the nature of reality which
cause a huge explosion. Okay? That's
number one. Number two is you kill
divinity. You have the power to kill
divinity. You lose your fear of God and
you kill God. And that was the JFK
assassination, right? Because in in the
eyes of of America, a president is
sacred. A president is divine. So for
you to kill a president means you kill
God himself. The third thing is to
create life.
And that would be AI,
>> right? That's why you have this AI
project in place because you want to
prove that you are God. So you've
already proven you can warp reality.
You've already proven you can kill God.
Last thing is to have the power to
create life itself. That's artificial
intelligence. And the reason the 33°
north of the equator was interesting for
all of those was that there's 33 degrees
in masonry.
>> Yeah. 33 is a secret number in
Freemasonry. There are 33 degrees. Um
also Jesus was supposed to have died at
33. Um, so 33 is a very sacred number in
uh Freemason esquetology. Jesus, was he
a carpenter?
>> Yes, that's right. He was a carpenter.
That's right. He wasn't a stonemason.
Um
um so they don't actually worship Jesus.
They worship uh someone else. And I I
forget his name. He was supposed to be
the first mason. And he built Solomon's
temple.
And uh Solomon had him killed because he
was jealous of this man's um um ability.
So um let me clarify to people what
Freemasonry is. Okay. So a lot of people
just assume Freemasonry is this secret
society that goes back to the Knights
Templars during the Crusades. And that's
not true. Okay. Freemasonry is the
religion of capitalism.
All right. So, let me explain this
because it's very important for for
people for people to appreciate this.
So, understand what's really really
going on. But capitalism is an accident
of history. For capitalism to take
effect, you needed three major accidents
to happen sequentially. Okay.
>> The first is Calvinism
and I believe in double predestination.
So during this time throughout most of
medieval Europe the Catholic church was
in charge and people obey the Catholic
church because Catholic church could
determine who went to heaven and who
went to hell and Calvin says nope
Catholic church doesn't have that power
only god has that power and god already
at the beginning of time already decided
who went to heaven and who went to hell.
So Catholic church has no power over you
ignore the Catholic church. Okay. And
that this is called what what is often
referred to as double predestination.
But if you are a Calvinist, this creates
a problem for you, which is like how do
you know if you are selected by God or
not, right? This creates a crisis of
faith. This creates a lot of anxiety.
And the answer they came up with is, you
know, because God favors you and God
favors you if you become very wealthy.
So if you become very wealthy, then you
know God has favored you. But because
communists don't like to sin, it means
if you become wealthy, you cannot spend
any of that money, which is
counterintuitive. Isn't the point of
getting wealthy to make sure your
family, your friends have a good life,
to make sure you're happy? No, no, no,
no, no, no. If you want to get to
heaven, you have to make a lot of money
and not spend it, which means you have
to put in the bank, right? Okay, that's
actually number one. Because they were
making a lot of money and putting the
money in the bank, this allows for the
rise of the Dutch Republic. uh because
the Dutch were Calvinists and they uh
through capital investment they were
able to create a spice monopoly in the
East Andes. Okay. So the Dutch Republic
is a second historic accident. The
problem with the Dutch Republic is they
have all this gold but they were with on
the um European continent which meant
they were invaded easily by the
Hapsburgs and the Spanish. So what did
they do? They move all their gold to
England. This is called the 1688
Glorious Revolution. The third accident
is something called the Bank of England
1694 chartered. Okay. What makes this
Bank of England unique is it's the first
private bank that is guaranteed by the
state. Okay. And so the idea is you put
your money in the Bank of England and
it's yours forever. So you're probably
an investor in the Bank of England. The
Bank of England would take this money
and lend it to Parliament, not the king.
There's a huge difference because a king
if he dies or he reigns on the contract
or he loses the war, you're kind of
screwed. You're just you're just um
investing in one person. But if you lend
your money to parliament
now,
everyone in England, as long as England
still stands, must pay you back at some
point. Okay. So these three things is
what enabled capitalism and the rise of
transational capital. Right?
>> Okay. So this is all accidents. The
problem is that once you have this
accent come to being and once this
accent assume assumes a lot of power it
now needs to explain
and justify
um its power. And so therefore what
happened was transnational capital led
to a rise of the freemasons.
What is
unique about the Freemasons is they
believe that reason is God
and this is unique in human history.
Reason is separate from emotion. And
this is absurd. It's counterintuitive
because most societies, I would say all
societies before the rest of cremation
believe that reason and emotion were
inseparable,
>> right?
>> You imagine the human heart.
Okay? And it just it just intuitively
think about it. You cannot separate
reason from emotion. Why do they
separate reason from emotion? Because
emotion in their eyes was family,
tradition, nation, religion, prejudice.
What was reason? Reason was capital.
Right? So when the Freemason said we
must make the world safe for reason,
what they're really saying is we must
make the world safe for capital. The
free movement of ideas, people, and
capital. We have to have reason. Conquer
the world to usher in paradise. All
they're saying is capitalism will usher
in utopia. Okay. So that's a really
important thing that people need to
appreciate about Freemasonry. That is it
is the ultimate secret society that
undergurs capitalism.
It seems like every secret society uh is
tied to central banking and capitalism
in a way that's famous. Is that usually
right?
>> Yeah. So I think secret societies are
byproduct of capitalism. Okay. And and
and there's a very good reason why.
Okay. So trust capital is anything that
can that can move capital from one place
to another. Okay. This includes hedge
funds. It also includes European pension
funds. It also includes sovereign wealth
funds of the GCC. It it it just it's
just any capital. Okay.
These capital are competing for the best
return on investment.
And to do that, you need to solve three
problems. Okay? The first is access to
real information, right? Not not what
you see on the news because that's all
BS. Real information. Okay? Which means
you need to infiltrate powerful
bureaucracies. You need to put put
agents into government bureaucracies so
that you can you can have real
information. Okay? That's number two,
infiltration. And then you need to able
to coordinate among these different
agents in a way that allows you to
maximize your return on investment which
basically means coordinating a collapse
of the financial system.
Okay. So how do you accomplish these
three things for secret societies? Okay.
Because if you think about it all three
things are illegal, right? H
>> the first thing uh access of information
that is spying infiltration is also
spying but then you have coordination
which is conspiracy. Okay. So if people
found out what you were doing
you would be arrested. Okay. So so you
have to have secret societies. That's
that's why you have so many secret
societies around the world. And what we
know is those societies that are most
successful are esquetological.
Okay. Why? Because first of all, desto
is a script. So it binds people over
generations.
>> Okay, which is a really hard problem to
solve, right? Because you might be
hardworking in order in order to um
protect the interest of the secret
society, but your son won't be. Your son
will just want to spend the money,
right? But if you're bound by an
esquetology, it means you can now pass
on tradition, your power and tradition
from generation to to to generation.
Second thing is like you're now able to
co-op the energy and dedication of
religious fanatics,
right? So now you're able to co-opt
Christian Zionists. You're now able to
co-op meic Jews because you're not
interested in your money. They're all
they're interested in is their religion,
right? But you can use your religion.
You can use your energy in order to
advance your financial interests.
And the third thing is um estology
people are willing to die for it. People
work really hard for their esquetology.
Okay. And but does that make sense to
you?
>> Yeah. Okay. Now what's really
interesting is this
different people will belong to many
secret societies because that is what is
in your best interest. Right? So if
you're trans capitalist and you're a
billionaire, well you're better off
joining 100 societies because that
maximizes your chance of success, right?
So the way to resolve this issue is to
force your commitment to this society
through social bonding, right? And the
more evil the social bonding, the more
you're bounded to the secret society.
And that's why they have these rituals.
That's why these rituals, quite
honestly, some of them are absolutely
disgusting. Some of these rituals
require you to eat cannibalism. Some of
these rituals require you to children.
Okay? And again, I'm not saying I know
any of this. I'm just saying like using
game theory and figuring out in the
world of transactional capital, how do
you maximize your own personal benefit?
Well, I would say first of all, you have
to join a secret society. In fact, you
want to join as many as possible. Second
of all is these societies need to be
esotical which explains why a lot of
politics is is driven by esattology. And
the third thing is to show your
commitment and to force your commitment
you have to engage in evil rituals that
are beyond the human imagination that
are so taboo that um you are now uh
forever locked into into society.
Basically you've signed a contract with
the devil.
And again, this is just game theory.
This is just pure logic. I don't I I
don't know any of this to be true. I'm
just saying like, well, if we believe
the world is run by trans capital, then
how will trans behave in this world? And
logically speaking,
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And logically speaking,
if that's how you uh garner coordination
and win the game, wouldn't there be like
some group that creates all the secret
societies? Like one group that has like
all the control of it. That's not how it
works.
>> No.
>> How it usually works is this. And I'm
talking like how things are done in the
real world. Okay. Usually what happens
is this very powerful person decides he
needs to start a secret society in order
to advance his best interest. Okay? So
he starts a secret society and he and he
collects people who
um he thinks will benefit his long-term
interests.
Now that they formed this group, they
need to explain what they're doing and
why they have more authority and
legitimacy than other societies. That
means going back in the past and
changing the past to create a narrative
that explains your secret society. And
that's why a lot of Freemasons say we go
back to the time of the Knights Templars
because in that world the older you are
the more legitimacy you have even though
the Knights Templars have absolutely
nothing to do with the Freemasons. Okay.
So and then you have to create rituals
to bind everyone together.
And then you you you need to create
dietes or gods to
uh compel you into action. Okay? So
another way of saying this is if I gave
you a million dollars and I said, "Jack,
I want you to take a gun and shoot me in
the head." Well, you couldn't do it.
You think you could do it because it's a
million dollars, but you can't actually
do it. Okay? When the time comes, if the
there's actually a gun in your head and
you have to shoot me in the head, even
though no one knows and we're all
private and no one will ever know you
shot me in the head, you can't do it
because it goes against human
psychology.
But
if you believe Satan
was putting a gun to your head and
telling you say and telling you, you
either uh shoot me or I'll shoot you,
you'll do it. So it's very interesting
how human psychology works. Right.
Right. You need the fear of God to
compel you into action that maximize
your benefit which um goes against uh
human conditioning.
Right. You have to be able to sin and
how and how you able to sin because God
told you to sin.
Right. Right. So imagine the power of
people who are able to at any point just
take a gun and shoot their opponent in
the head.
You once drew the 33 degrees of
Freemasonry and said every level gets a
bigger secret.
What's the final secret of reality that
only 33rd degree Masons learn? Yeah,
that's a great question. Um the final
secret is this. We create our own
reality. All reality is just a a
hallucination. You control what people
believe. You control reality itself.
That's the great secret. This is the
great secret, greatest secret in the
universe. Everything is a hallucination.
Reality is what we perceive it to be.
There's nothing beyond our imagination.
There's nothing independent of our
imagination. God is also within our
imagination.
And do you think
the lie is different at every level?
Like is there a secret above that
secret?
Yeah. So um why there are 33 degrees is
um most people cannot
appreciate or understand that reality
only exists in their own mind. That
would drive a lot of people crazy. Okay.
Okay. So you have to be slowly initiated
into
this secret. Okay. So again using game
theory. Um let's talk about how we would
differentiate
um the people. Okay. Well at the most
simple level all we're telling people is
we're here to do good. We're here we're
here to help society. We're help we're
here to help others. Okay. This is like
the majority of people 90% of Freemasons
believe this because this this is like
the lower level. Okay.
Um second layer would be we can act to
better influence society. We have a
responsibility to influence society. So
rather than just be good, let's try to
make the world a better place. Okay, we
need to coordinate. We need to conspire
the ends just by the means. Okay, that's
the second layer. The third layer is um
there is no reality.
There just isn't. uh it's all just a
hallucination
and the final layer is but that means we
can become God. Our mission is to become
God itself. Okay. So this is a very
simplistic thing. Okay. Obviously there
are lots of nuances and there are lots
more grades than this but but I would
say this is how it it should work. Okay.
just using logic,
right? And again, I would say the vast
majority of people are stuck in the top
two layers, right? If if you're just a
normal person, you're like, I I want to
do good in the world. If you're
ambitious, you're like, oh, you know
what? I can uh work with others to
create a better world, right?
And then yes you have uh some people who
are like who are very intelligent and
like who can be taught that reality is
an illusion and then at the very top
that we can become God itself. It takes
a special breed to to actually believe
that right
and they're filtered according to their
capacity to understand the different
levels and that's why Freemasonry is so
effective.
When I've heard you speak about this
concept, uh, I've always been confused
on
exactly what your stance is. Do you
literally believe magic is real?
Um, how do you define magic? Everything
outside of like
mimetic influence,
you can turn this into like snap your
fingers and alter reality. Okay. Yeah.
Money, right? Money is a piece of paper
and for a reason, everyone believes
there's value to it. So much value that
I'm willing to sacrifice my entire life
to obtaining it. Right? So much so that
I'm willing to get up at 5:00 in the
morning,
um, leave my children, drive two hours,
and work at work work at a job I hate in
order to obtain as much as possible.
That's magic. That's alchemy. That's
like literally alchemy because they they
take a paper and they turn into gold.
But but past that, do you believe
anything like that? So the magic that a
lot of people practice that I think has
most legitimacy is called manifestation.
Okay. So if you believe that reality is
an illusion and everything is a
projection of our imagination, then what
you really believe is that the universe
is conscious. Okay. So, our bodies, like
when I see you, when you see me, the
bodies are just a husk. They're just an
embodiment. But who really are are our
consciousness that controls this body.
Our consciousness exists in in
dimensions across the universe.
And because of that, if I'm able to
control my conscious in a way, it
changes the fabric of the universe in a
way that uh seeps down into our reality
and allows me to achieve certain things
I want to achieve in this reality.
Right? Okay. So, let let me give you an
example of this. How do you live
forever? Okay. How do you live forever?
And we traditionally understood living
forever just means ch genetic therapy,
right? Just um maybe changing the blood
or
um doing more exercises, right? So
person like Brian Johnson um is really
into this. That's completely the wrong
approach because if you believe that
where ultimate consciousness then the
trick is to
um create a conscious level so that you
can be trapped here forever. Right? So
the example I use is George RR Martin.
He wrote the Game of Thrones um books
and millions of people in United States
literally get up in the morning and ask
themselves when will George RR Martin
finish the damn series. He promised us
Winds of Winter. It hasn't come yet.
Okay, there are literally millions of
Americans who all they want is for
George Martin to finish a damn book.
Okay. So their consciousness calls for
George's consciousness to finish the
book. Okay. So there's this direct link.
In that case you have to you have to ask
yourself a question which is like will
George R. Martin ever die? Because death
means your consciousness leaves this
world.
But if there are millions who are
trapping you in this world will you ever
die? Will will you ever literally die?
And my
um theory is that he won't die. Okay,
you should go interview George R.
Martin, okay? And the first thing you
will discover about this guy is he's not
that healthy, man. He is pretty fat and
he has a terrible lifestyle, but he's
pretty energetic and he's pretty happy.
So, how to explain that? Another person
is Donald Trump. Donald Trump eats
literally eats cheeseburgers every
single day.
And like the worst job in the world in
terms in terms of health is being
president of the United States. Look at
Obama in his eight years. The guy a like
50 years being president of the United
States, right? Like being president of
the United States is the most stressful
job in the world. And it it it kills
you. It ages you. It stresses you out.
Donald Trump. Um, the guy does a press
conference every single day and he's
always doing too social.
He is not a healthy guy. So, where does
his energy come from? Why is he so
energetic? The collective. It doesn't
make any sense from a material
perspective, right? But if you believe
that the universe is conscious and we're
all just consciousness and the fact that
we are paying so much attention to
Donald Trump
means we're actually giving him our
energy
and that's what uh makes him so
energetic. But if you extend this theory
even more
with millions of people around the world
and maybe like hundreds of millions of
people all around the world, every day
they get up and it's like, "Oh my god,
what did Donald Trump do today?" The
fact that so much consciousness is
converging on one person
and this has never happened before in
human history, right? And what is the
convergence of all imaginations? It's
God, right? All right. So, it's entirely
possible Donald Trump lives forever and
he's president of the United States for
the next 20, 30 years. That is possible
if we believe that magic is real and the
universe is conscious. It's perfectly
possible. I'm not saying I'm not going
to say it's going to happen, but I would
not be surprised if Donald Trump gets a
third term and a fourth term. I just
wouldn't be.
>> Third term, fourth term. You think he'll
be like a Putin type?
>> No. No. I think if Trump gets a third
term, it will radically change the
United States and the world forever.
Okay. So, uh using game theory, I can
predict how he will behave in his third
term even though he himself has not
imagined it. Even though no one arounds
him believes uh he'll get a third term
and no one's really thought about what a
third term would look like. Okay, but I
I will say he'll do three things because
that's his game theory. Okay, the first
thing is he will have his own private
army.
um he will have special forces ICE very
loyal to him and only him okay he'll
become the imperial presidency that
makes sense right because there will be
a lot of domestic opposition towards him
so he hell of his own army to protect
him okay that's number one number two is
he will colonize all of North America
and develop those develop up the spoils
okay so like it's a way to relieve
domestic opposition so what's a way to
get Wall Street and the multinationals
off your back you give the Alberta tar
sense okay you're like Hey, let's take
over Canada because the Canadians are
useless anyway. And we'll develop all
the land, the water amongst ourselves,
okay? And you can do that with
Greenland, Iceland, Mexico,
Colombia,
Latin America, Cuba. Okay? Just give it
to your friends. Number three, which is
the most important, is he will have a
come to Jesus moment where he recognizes
that I should not be friends of Israel.
Israel is our enemy. Um, and we United
States must become a Christian nation to
be ruled by Jesus. Okay? Let Jesus be
our God and Donald Trump will just be
his representative on earth. And so,
Christianity will become the dominant
religion of the United States.
Is there any secret society that
believes Israel, the promised land, is
in America?
>> Oh, yeah, sure. Absolutely. The Mormons,
right? Yeah. There are lots of um
societies that that believe like America
is a new Jerusalem. Does that tie into
this thesis, you think?
>> Yes, absolutely. Because that's that's
how they see Donald Trump as someone who
would usher in a new Jerusalem.
Right. So the Puritans when they came
over to United States it was because
they saw the United States as a new
Jerusalem. You know people don't
appreciate this but like it was actually
very hard to get people from England to
come to United States. They tried this
many times and all that happened was
they just starve to death because the
winters are really cold and they really
didn't know how to um manipulate the
land. Okay. The breakthrough were the
Puritans. Why? Because they came
religious mission. They were willing to
endure all the hardship, all the pain
because they thought this was a new
Jerusalem. God sent me here to suffer
all this so that one day I can build the
new Jerusalem. That sounds like
something I should ask about. Is there
any other part of that that's important
to you?
Um well, these are the founders of the
United States. I think that's very
important. Right.
>> And so I would say like the United
States has always had two competing
visions. Okay. The first vision is
United States as a new Jerusalem. The
second competing vision is United States
as the fulfillment of the enlightenment
project as the place where
multiculturalism, liberalism, science
can thrive and I think we've gone to one
extreme which enlightenment project uh
which often means that we will now shift
over to the other extreme which is
United States as a new Jerusalem. But
that's why I'm almost certain that
United States will eventually become a
theocracy.
>> So, professor, for those that don't
know, you've left your school in China,
and have you left the country?
>> Um, I want to leave the country, but my
my wife and children are still there.
Yeah.
>> I'm curious. Our last conversation
didn't take place in the States. Is
there anything that you can say now that
you're in America that you can talk
about? First of all,
um I think America is heading towards an
abrupt change. I I think it's very hard
to sustain the way things are in United
States. Uh I think that Skid Row um may
be the future of the United States. I
think Rat utopia um might be the future.
things are very pessimistic for the
United States and for the uh world.
Professor, you're one of the only
forecasters online that I've ever heard
admit this. You said, "I'm no longer an
observer. I'm a player."
Kind of implying that your predictions
matter a bit.
>> Yeah.
Has anyone ever tried to influence your
predictions?
>> Yeah, that's a really good question. Um,
and you would think that um there'll be
lots of people who try to influence my
predictions
and uh especially the Chinese government
and uh I've often talked to my wife
about this whether or not you know the
Ministry of State Security, the Chinese
CIA, they'll come and they'll try to
co-opt me, you know, like maybe like a
honeypot operation or some sort of
blackmail or maybe some bribery. I I
love I would love it if they came and
try to bribe me, you know. My my my wife
said, "Uh, no honey, they won't come
because they know you're an asshole."
Um, I don't really socialize in China.
So, usually how I think these things
work is, and again, this is just human
psychology. Let's just say I'm an agent.
I'm a special agent and I want to co-opt
you, right? Well, I have to ask myself,
how do I personally benefit from working
with you? Right? So, not only do I need
to co-op you easily, but we need to go
in business together where we both
benefit and then it's worth my while to
come and co-op you.
Otherwise,
uh what's the point? To protect the
national interest, to promote Chinese
interest, who cares, right? Right. So
that's that's the issue I face where
um it's not clear to these agents around
the world whether they're Mossad or KGB,
Russia or China or United States whether
or not I can be co-opted and how to
co-opt me and what the benefit would be
in co-opting me.
Uh because um uh you may know this, but
I don't monetize my YouTube channel,
>> right?
>> So I basically I I don't know how much
my YouTube channel could generate. But
if I mon if I had monetized my YouTube
channel this past year, I'm pretty sure
I would have made hundreds of thousands
of dollars, okay? Because some some of
my videos get millions of views.
>> Millions of dollars, I'd say,
>> possibly. But I've turned it down,
right? So if you're a special agent,
you're like, "Wait a minute here. This
guy just told YouTube he doesn't want
these millions of dollars. What can I
possibly offer him to
entice him to like do what I want him to
do, right?
>> But I mean like I don't think I want
anything from anyone. That's that that's
a problem. Like I'm not shown I'm
interested in anything from uh anyone.
You're telling me some dumb 20-year-old
hasn't been like, "Professor Jane, can
you predict this so I can make some
money on Poly Market?" Like, someone
hasn't messaged you. I mean, some have
asked me and I said, "I don't do that
sort of stuff." Uh, because I don't do
the like short-term
stock market predictions because if I
did that, I'd be go I would go and work
as a hedge fund manager. Why would I go
talk to you guys, right?
>> You know,
>> that's fair.
>> I would make billions being a hedge fund
manager. I wouldn't be on YouTube.
But I will tell you this, okay? Um
I do believe
that um I'm here on a special mission.
Maybe it's it's even a divine mission to
spread awareness
and it's a heavy responsibility
>> and I have a responsibility to do it
because I have three kids and I want to
be the best possible role model to my
kids. Okay. So if I had a choice, okay,
whether to go be a billionaire and make
sure my kids have the best possible life
or to speak the truth, I would I would
choose to speak the truth because I
think that would have a much more um
lasting impact on my children than if I
were to become a billionaire. Uh in
fact, I think that if I were to become a
billionaire, I might eat my children. So
I rather go just tell the truth. You
know,
>> on our last podcast, I'd asked if you
were a spy and you gave a response and I
think uh you did one with what was it?
>> A lot of people everyone asked me pretty
much everyone's like if I'm a spy. Yes.
>> Yeah. Uh but I guess
um you said quote if I get into the
United States it's because someone wants
me here. Uh because
you said when you flew into America, you
didn't have your travel letter and you
were thinking that at the border. Uh
who would want you here? I guess. Um
so
it is true that I said this. It is true
that is possible certain the facts of
the United States do not mind me coming
here and speaking about um what I
believe uh to the world because it
benefits them politically somehow. Um I
would say there are lots of special
interests that believe what I say helps
advance their cause. Okay. So let's just
name them. Okay. First you have to
design his interest because even though
I'm critical of Israel, I do say they
will achieve the greater Israel project
and I do say that Israel will probably
the best place to invest in the next 20
years. Okay. So for all my criticism of
Israel, I am certain saying certain
things that help advance their cause and
a lot of it is predictive programming
where I'm getting people used to the
idea that Israel will become the
dominant power in the uh Middle East.
And for Zionists, it's very important
that a lot of discussion revolves around
Israel. Uh because they're trying to
force the George Asper to return to
Israel. So whether or not, you know, the
discussion is positive or negative, they
don't really they don't really care. Um
they want Jews to be the center of
attention. Okay. So the Zionists don't
mind me.
I think that Trump
uh likes what I say
>> really because I keep on saying he's
gonna get a third term, right? And in
his world of the occult, manifestation
is very important. So if I just implant
the idea that Trump gets a third term,
it becomes normalized
in conversation. That makes it much more
likely to happen.
So, I think Trump benefits from uh me
talking about a third term.
>> Do you think you had any impact on the
outcome of the Iran war?
Um
um it is possible I had some impact
but I prefer to think I had no impact
because if I believe I did have an
impact uh first of all that would put me
in a lot of danger but also because that
would also screw up a lot a lot of my
analysis as well. Hm.
That's interesting. The idea of
like you hear an idea. What's a good
example of one? Uh if you say everyone's
lonely, like does that make people
lonely or does that help the epidemic?
>> Yeah, that's a good point. If you say
people are lonely, it um primes them to
notice how lonely they are,
>> whereas they might have noticed before.
And then it makes it the loneliness much
more salient and much more um um
conspicuous in society, right? And then
it just makes people even more lonely. I
also think you know people like Peter
Theel
um
um find me valuable because
I am presenting ideas
and making them much more mainstream,
>> much more popular. So it's easier to
implement the change that they want,
right? So I keep on saying AI control
grid. Well, you may not know this, but
the worst doomsayers about AI are funded
by the tech bros, right? So you might
have have I'm not sure if you had these
people on your podcast, but they keep on
saying how AI is going to control us,
right? This is not organic. They are,
this is part of their um silog where
they're trying to get people to believe
that AI is far more advanced than it
actually is really. Yeah. And so a way
to get people to accept AI is is by
creating the illusion that AI is all
powerful. H that's interesting. I'd
actually asked a guest about that
recently. I was like, uh, if you say AI
is going to kill us all, uh, then that
just helps the economy of AI because
everyone
>> like, you want to invest in a company
that's going to take over the world.
That's right. You know, but is it
possible to be talking about AI is going
to kill us all without being co-opted by
AI?
>> Um, right. So again, it goes back to the
idea that the universe is conscious. So
um
they're trying to implant certain
emotions, ideas in people to shape
reality uh itself. And so when you say
that AI will uh kill us all and AI will
destroy all jobs, what you're really
doing is making people in fear and in
awe of AI, which makes AI becoming God
much more likely, right? because
emotions associated with God are fear
and all right but that doesn't make it
not true
um it makes it more true okay so as I
say as I said before the technology
doesn't exist where AI can become God
where AI can become independent of human
beings so what you need what you need
you need to do is use oult magic to make
people believe that AI is god and that
would be the same
Right. And that's why um people
um working with within the AI industry
are leaking reports of like, you know,
they're trying to summon demons.
Uh they're trying to um manifest demons
in AI. It's all BS. Uh if you actually
know the technology, it can't do that.
But it's again, the human imagination is
the source of reality. So if you're able
to manipulate human imagination away, it
creates the AI god for you. Do you think
elites believe AI won't kill people who
have a microchip in their brain?
Um
that's not how elites think. Elites
don't think in terms of people or kill
them. I guess elite thinks in in terms
of like utility. Uh they think in terms
like energy, right? They think in terms
of maximum benefit. So they don't really
think in terms of humans. In fact, um
they
think in terms of like a blueprint. They
see the society as a blueprint to be
manipulated in a way that maximizes
efficiency and convenience and utility.
>> I'm not sure if you know who Robert
Moses is. You know who Robert
>> name? I've heard that name.
>> Robert Moses was the most powerful urban
planner in United States in the 20th
century. and he was um in New York City.
What he did was he created like the
modern American urban landscape. Uh so
he would just take these neighborhoods
and bulldoze them and make make um it
safe for highways.
>> Okay. So he made the country more
convenient for cars and less convenient
for people because he didn't he he
didn't think in terms of like people.
He's be he was not capable thinking in
terms of people. He all he thought about
was in terms of like
cars, you know, like so it's really
strange, okay? But like you you need to
appreciate this. The more you go up the
power ladder,
the more you remove from everyday
reality, the more you remove from people
and from emotions. And you start
becoming more like a machine. You think
in terms of m like in terms of a
machine, but you also perceive the world
as a machine to be perfected, right?
Okay. So, yeah, the more you move up,
the more psychopathic you become. You
said something this summer uh that I
don't think I've seen any interviewer
touch on. You said, quote, "I had a very
traumatic childhood and I was convinced
no one loved me."
Why did you feel like that?
Well, because um I was traumatized by my
experience in Canada. And when you're
traumatized, it creates disassociation.
And disassociation means uh you're no
longer connected to the people around
you. Um so that's not how I felt not
just in Canada, but also at Yale. In
fact, my disassociation, my trauma was
probably even worse at Yale because it
was such a foreign environment. At least
in Canada, I had my parents. At least I
had had my brothers, but in at Yale, I
was just by myself. And um
um it was really my wife who reached out
to connect to me. And that's why I think
my my wife is really my angel, you know,
sent here to save me from what I could
have become.
You said uh on your wife that
she believes you're able to make your
predictions because you're possessed by
a demon.
Did Did I say that?
>> My wife tells me that when I write or
when I work, it's like I'm possessed.
I'm possessed by something. So, what my
wife has said to me is when I write,
when I work, I'm not even here.
>> Like, you know, when I'm on a computer,
I'm writing a story. I'm writing an
essay. I completely focus on the task. I
completely ignore the environment around
me. And often when I'm writing a novel,
I've written novels before, I even when
I'm walking with her, I drift in I drift
off into another world. So my body is
here, but my mind is not there. So it's
not really possession. It's really
channeling.
>> Yeah.
You once said, quote, "When I was
younger, I had many visions. When I go
to bed, I see fighter jets roaming the
sky. I I see the world burning.
What do you think dreams actually are?
And like what were the significance of
those dreams? So when I was um very
young and I'm talking like seven 8 n
okay I would have a lot of dreams of
like me
uh on the battlefield commanding my
forces and I I I would actually um as a
young person I would have in my parents'
basement lots of like Lego battles you
know like how you take a Lego and then I
would take take one Lego instead of like
putting them together like I should I
just pretend like this one Lego was a
tank. I made tanks, I made soldiers, and
I just, um, created all these battles.
And so, um, why is it that I was doing
this? And I think it's because it might
be memories
or emotions or inclinations
from previous lives.
Um, so I mean one thing that's very
strange is I've never worked in the
military.
I have no real experience
um working in a bureaucracy.
But for the reason I'm able to figure
out
just using pure intuition how wars turn
out. Okay. Okay. So, I'm able to
diagnose the war in Ukraine, the war in
Iran, and it's pretty accurate, right?
So, um I just came back from Austin and
I was on the Chris Williamson podcast. I
was sitting with um Robert Pape who
you've interviewed and George Freriedman
who runs a company called Strat 4 and
Strat 4 is called by some the shadow
CIA. Okay. So these are two individuals
who have tremendous
experience working in government at the
highest levels and they know the most
powerful people in the world. Right?
Robert P used to work in the White House
and he's advised many generals, many
officers
and
we agreed on a lot of things. A lot of
things I was saying conform to their
experience. So, it's really strange how
they have experience of my intuition and
we're able to align, right? That makes
no sense. How is that possible? I mean,
a lot of stuff I'm saying I actually
just make up. Like, I've been accused
like making making stuff up and like
it's true. I mean, like, yes, uh, the
Iran war, I didn't spend years studying
the Iran war. I'm just basing a lot of
things. I I make a lot of predictions. I
do analysis based on pure intuition. So,
yeah, I am making stuff up. But why is
it that when I make a lot of stuff up,
I'm able to get a lot of stuff right?
And in fact, I'm able to sit down with,
you know, Robert Pap, who's a professor
at Chicago University, and George
Freeman, who um um runs his own
intelligence forecasting company and
like I'm able to uh speak with authority
even though I have absolutely no
experience in government or in the
military.
Um, and I think it has to do with the
fact that maybe before
I might have been a general or a leader
of some sorts with a lot of experience
in in in battles because like I'm able
to see my head very clearly how this
battle uh turned out. Uh, so if you go
back to my early interviews right as the
Iran war broke out, my analysis is
pretty spot on.
And I I don't know how how that happens
because like I'm just literally making
making this stuff up. I won't lie. I'm
like, you know, like I didn't spend
months doing research into the Iranian
military and the US military and then
there's like the secret access that
enable me to uh know what's going to
happen. No, I just completely base my
predictions on intuition.
My analysis is just intuitive and I I
don't know how that works. Right? So I I
think I asked myself when I was young,
why was I so interested in military
affairs?
And it might have been memories and
intuitions and um inclinations from a
previous life or previous lives.
And it's also possible, okay, and I'm
just talking out loud here. It's also
possible that in previous lives, not
life, but lives,
I reached the highest echelons of power
in society. Okay. And I don't know
where, okay? But like I I I climb up
pretty high and maybe I was a member of
these secret societies and maybe um I
became extremely wealthy and powerful
and all that did was fill me with a
tremendous sense of regret. And I'm here
in this world to tell everyone what what
power really is like. How to avoid the
mistakes I might have made in previous
lives. I don't know, but that could be
an explanation for why I am so insistent
on going on podcast and telling the
truth. Uh, regardless of the risk and
dangers to my own personal safety,
do you feel like you're helping people?
Well, people tell me I'm helping people.
I get stopped on the streets all the
time and people like, I want to take a
picture of you. I want to shake your
hand because I love the knowledge you're
sharing. like everywhere like Hong Kong,
London,
Beijing, uh New York, and like it's
really strange, but like it's all sorts
of people. It's like like my fan base is
the most diverse group of people you
will ever meet. But today, I was stopped
by a construction worker who spotted me
as I cross the street. He wanted to
shake my hand. I was I was at a
restaurant and um this Asian guy spotted
me and asked to take my picture and then
um I was getting ice cream with for my
son and some tourists in Switzerland
want to take a picture of me um with me
and this is just the past 3 days and
everyone is like I love the work you're
doing please continue. So um um I do
feel I'm having a positive impact and um
I do feel that teaching knowledge to
people is
probably the greatest um it gives me the
greatest sense of um gratification.
>> Right. I I've also had people who've
told me like I've changed their lives,
you know, like this one uh young man
said after watching my videos, he now
gets along better with his parents. I
don't know why that's the case, but he
told me like he I I've changed his life
for for the better. And I've never
received a message from someone who says
like, you know, you made my life a lot
worse. I've I've received messages where
hearing you speak has brought pain to my
life, but it's also brought awareness.
>> Right.
Yeah. I'll say personally, I got married
uh after we met each other because I
wouldn't say you were a direct cause of
it, but uh we had a lot of interesting
conversations about just the nature of
your content. There there's so many
things that were unknown before I feel
like your content came into the world
and it gave me a framework to do
analysis on so much stuff. Uh so yeah,
I'll admit that it had a positive impact
on me in that way.
>> Great.
>> Yeah.
>> Great. I encourage people to get married
and have families. That's that that's
our message.
>> And don't chase Uh you said in
the last interview you also well that's
how you get married, man. No one's going
to marry you if you chase right?
Um,
something you said
that I found interesting was your son
Chris, you think he's from another
planet and that his soul transmigrated
here? Why do you think your son is from
another planet?
>> Um, I think our souls transmigrated
here. I think our our souls are eternal.
U, but he's just more sensitive. He's
just more aware. So he told us this, but
I mean um it's crazy but like our
daughter. So I wrote three fantasy
novels and is part of a nine book
trilogy and I was exhausted writing
those three books but I felt I had to um
in order to build a legacy for my
children. And my wife is like, she she
read the novels and she says, "This is
great." You know, this is very much like
Game of Thrones, but it lacks
descriptive language.
>> And I said, I know I'm not good at
writing descriptive language because
like I don't want to spend hours
describing
what's what clothes someone is wearing.
That bores me to death. I'm much more
interested in the plot and the
characters and the dialogue. She's like,
"Fine. What we'll do is this. We'll have
a daughter and she will write the the
books for you. And this is like when we
have one son, okay? Then we have another
son and then she's like, "Okay, we'll
have we'll have a third child and this
will have to be a daughter." It's like,
"Why can't we have a son?" And she's
like, "Well, because the son will hate
you, right? The son's not going to want
to like inherit your legacy. The son
wants to build his own legacy. So, we
need to have a daughter who's not just a
daughter, but also someone who can be a
writer.
and we had a daughter and um the story
of my daughter's birth is my wife wanted
to go to another another city where
there was better healthcare.
She was 2 weeks away but she felt she
was going our daughter was going to come
early. So she got on a train and she
said to our daughter, "Please don't come
out until we've we've got to the the
city." So, she arrives and literally
like two hours after she arrives in the
hotel, her water breaks
>> and she goes to the um hospital and she
gives birth and it's very smooth. And
then uh my daughter is turning three
next month and she's like everyone's
like she's a writer, she's sensitive,
she's smart, uh she's good with
language. So I I don't know how that
works, right? My my wife is like, "We
need a daughter and who can write your
novels."
And I wrote the novels so that one of my
children could inherit a legacy because
because remember at this time when I
wrote the novels, this was like uh six
years ago. I wasn't famous. I I didn't
know I would be YouTube famous. I didn't
even have a job. That's why I could
write the novels because I had no job. I
I needed to build a legacy uh for my
family. So I had no idea that I would
write the novels and my wife would be
like we need a daughter who who can
finish your novels
and but that's but that that's how it
turned out. So um I do believe in the
trans migration of the soul because I
have children and my children are
nothing like me.
>> Um they're they're all independent.
They're all different. they have their
own uh career and life trajectories. And
what I realize is you can't actually
influence them. I mean, you can uh take
care of them, but they're really guests.
They're gifts from God. And uh once you
recognize that, it makes life easier for
everyone,
>> right?
>> And you know, it's really strange how we
have three kids and they're very
different and they're not at all like
either my wife or myself. So, I don't
believe in genetics. I don't believe in
genes. I don't believe in the blank
slate theory. I believe that all
children are gifts from God. They've all
transmigrated here and they're here for
their own purpose and you can only take
care of them. Uh you can only make them
happy but ultimately their life is their
own. They're going to face their own
hurdles, their own uh tribulations, but
that is part of their own journey,
right?
What's one thing uh you hope to teach
your son Chris before he becomes an
adult? Um because I know you said that
you don't really have a say, but I'm
sure you could teach a few things. Yeah.
Um
I mean, I would like him to be a good
person. That's what's most important to
my wife and myself. I want him to be
kind, generous, and openhearted.
uh and open-minded. Um I would like him
to be passionate as well, you know,
where he has a certain dream and he's
pursuing his dream to his fullest. Um
but I don't have my hopes up, you know,
he uh he has his own journey and like
look looking at my own life, you know, I
mean I've taken many detours to get to
where I am. Um, for most of my life, I
didn't really know what my purpose was.
I didn't really believe I had a purpose.
And I was a very depressed and
traumatized person. And all I want to do
is is protect Chris, uh, my son, and
just make sure it's a happy childhood.
And then where he takes his life is
something that he will decide for
himself. One thing I'm very cautious
about is like not letting my fame
influence him because I I know I went to
Yale University. I know a lot of
successful people and the children are
not very happy people. Uh and the reason
why is there certain expectation on the
children of the famous to be just as
famous, right? And it traumatizes them
because
um everyone expects them to follow in
their parents' footsteps and become just
as famous and successful
and most can't do it. I have yet to meet
a very happy person from a very powerful
family famous family and I don't want my
children to um suffer the same fate. I
want them to feel as though
um their life is their own and they have
absolutely no obligation or or um
pressure to follow in my footsteps.
Who do you think is the most impressive
person you've ever met?
>> The most impressive person I've ever
met? Um, I have high regard for uh my
mentor at Yale. His name is David
Brahmich.
He is a man I admire very much because
he has this relentless pursuit of the
truth. He's very open-minded. He's very
generous. One thing that really shocked
me about him when I first met him is
he's always willing to admit he's wrong.
That I think is the best sign of a
really intelligent and good person. Like
if he sees
um someone with a bad idea, he'll just
say, "Well, I have so much to learn from
you." And honestly, I saw that with
Robert Pap as well when um I was doing
this panel discussion with Robert Pap u
and I was making certain points. He if I
made a good point, he would just say
that's a great point. Um he didn't see
life as a competition. He saw um us as
all just on our own intellectual journey
and we can learn from each other. So I I
admire the most people who can admit
they're wrong. And that's why in today's
media landscape, I admire Tucker Carson
a lot because he's very forthright uh in
admitting his mistakes. He admitted that
he made a mistake in supporting the Iraq
war and he admits that he was mistaken
in supporting Trump. He admits that he
was wrong in his critique of Muslims
before. He keeps on saying he's wrong.
And his critics are like, "Well, that's
just, you know, a show." And I'm like,
"Then you try it.
Name me another famous celebrity with a
huge micro uh megaphone who just says on
a regular basis, I was wrong about this.
I was wrong about that." Uh it it it's
just a complete testament to his
character that he's willing to admit his
faults. That I think is is like the
ultimate test of of character. Are you
willing to admit you're wrong? And most
aren't.
>> I think that's a good one. Yeah. And
it's it's actually surprisingly rare. Uh
it's hard to do. It really is.
>> Since our last conversation, what's the
best piece of advice you've ever given
someone?
Fine friends
will always tell you the truth.
That is the um testament to friendship.
A friend is not someone who will tell
you what you want to hear. A friend is
someone who tells you
um what is the truth and that I think is
the um best sign of love.
Um I'm really thankful to my wife and
the reason why is she will never lie to
me. Even though it's probably sometimes
in her best interest to lie to me or
it's the most easy thing to do, but she
will never lie to me. and she uh will
always tell me the truth. Not only that,
but she tells she only tells our
children the truth, even though again
sometimes it is easier or more more
strategic to lie to our children. And
that I think is a test um a testament to
her character, but it's also a testament
to how much she loves me as well as our
children.
>> And what kind of person do you become if
everyone in your life lies to you?
>> Um what I believe is this. I believe
that words do matter. And so if you tell
the truth, you uplift yourself and those
around you. If you lie, you degrade
yourself and those around you. I don't
lie. I refuse to lie. Um, and I wouldn't
be able to sleep at night if if I lied
because not because I'm afraid of what
it does to other people. I'm afraid of
what it does to myself.
Beautiful.
Well, everyone, uh, this has been your
guest, Professor Jeang. Where can people
find your work that you're excited
about?
>> I'm on two places. I'm on YouTube and
I'm on Substack and both are predictive
history.
>> Predictive history. Awesome. Well, I
appreciate you coming along, guys. This
is the Jack Neil podcast. See you later.
Thank you. Okay, man. Yeah. All right.
Thank you.