[@ChrisWillx] “I Was A Loser Until I Was 39” - Robert Greene
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Link: https://youtu.be/gMOurQuERVs
Duration: 12 min
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Short Summary
In an interview, Robert Greene—author of The 48 Laws of Power—reflects on quitting a Hollywood TV job in his 30s after about five months to follow his authentic calling, later writing The Art of Seduction and co-writing with 50 Cent. He argues that suppressing one's true nature causes the body to rebel and that contemplating the universe's 13.8 billion-year scale reveals both human insignificance and awe.
Key Quotes
- "I was jumping I couldn't hold a job for more than five months. I finally had a job in television in Hollywood, right? Look like stability finally landed on Robert's shoulders. And I would I couldn't stand it. I hated it. It was like the most miserable period of my life. And I was going to quit and my mother tried to convince my then girlfriend to tell Robert he's got to keep this job. I mean, what's he's crazy. What's he doing?" (00:07:29)
- "Yeah, I'll make a good income, but I'll kill myself in 10 years." (00:08:14)
- "you have to realize that you're going to pay a price for violating this law, for violating this need, this law of who you actually are. You're going to pay a price and that is you're going to disengage from your work. You're going to start having habits and addictions and things because your body will your body tells you the truth." (00:04:49)
- "you're going to get illnesses. You're going to become diabetic. You're going to start gaining weight. You've disconnected from the reality of who you actually are. You will pay a price." (00:05:21)
- "your fear is holding you back and your fear is making it seem like you're being reasonable, but in fact you're just afraid and you're just listening to the voices and you're just listening to your spouse or whomever who's trying to tell you to take the safe route." (00:06:58)
Detailed Summary
Robert Greene on Authenticity, Career Pivots, and Cosmic Scale
Speaker Background
- Robert Greene, author of The 48 Laws of Power (written at age 39 after struggling to hold jobs), describes himself as a self-described "loser" before that, with parents nearly giving up on him.
Following One's True Nature
- Greene quit a stable Hollywood television writing job in the 1990s after roughly five months, despite his mother urging his girlfriend to convince him to stay.
- He told the interviewer he would have "killed" himself within 10 years if he had remained in the stable TV career path at age 35.
- He warns that people who pursue money and stability through their 20s and 30s without authenticity will experience growing discomfort in their 40s—often through affairs, drugs, or weight gain—and feel locked in by their 50s.
- According to Greene, violating one's true nature leads the body to "rebel," producing physical consequences such as illness, diabetes, and weight gain.
Writing Decisions and Personal Voice
- Despite pressure from publishers and his partner, Greene chose to write The Art of Seduction instead of a sequel to The 48 Laws of Power because the topic fascinated him since his 20s and felt true to his soul.
- He co-wrote a book with 50 Cent whose first version was canceled for being late and not good enough; the original draft focused on 50 Cent's business and empire rather than Greene's own interests.
- After pivoting the 50 Cent book to include more of his own ideas and desires, Greene says the book "took off," which he uses as evidence that each book must be deeply personal rather than a repeat of previous work.
A Concrete Example: The Basketball Coach
- Greene cites a G League basketball coach in his 30s who was offered an NBA head coaching job; Greene advised him to take it.
- The coach's team eventually won the NBA championship "the year before last" (not last year), about five years after the decision—an example of betting on authentic ambition paying off.
Cosmic Scale, Insignificance, and the Sublime
- Asked about scale, Greene contrasts animals (whose consciousness is limited to immediate environment) with humans, who are aware of events across the planet, the sky, and beyond.
- He illustrates human smallness with concrete numbers: the universe is 13.8 billion years old, an average human lifespan is about 80 years, and there are 8 billion people on Earth.
- Greene argues that this awareness produces two opposing effects: a sense of personal insignificance and a sense of awe at being conscious of the universe.
- He defines the sublime as a mix of terror and excitement produced by the awareness of vastness, an experience he says is particularly vivid in childhood.
- He concludes that contemplating cosmic scale makes everyday concerns seem incredibly unimportant in the long scheme of things.
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