[@jackneel] Prediction Expert: “Trump Wants This!” Here's His Secret Plan to Save America│Professor Jiang
Link: https://youtu.be/_sfS1sytbps
Duration: 157 min
Short Summary
Professor Jean, a geopolitical analyst, presents an extensive analysis predicting Trump's 2024 election victory, a U.S. invasion of Iran, and civil/economic collapse by 2027, identifying America's military vulnerabilities including offshored manufacturing capacity and unwillingness to sustain casualties. The episode traces the origins of modern finance from the Bank of England's founding in 1694 through Calvinist capitalism to the contemporary conflict between globalist transnational capital and nationalist factions, forecasting major systemic collapse by 2030.
Key Quotes
- "There's no objective reality. Everything is a creation of our imagination. What we do every day is we participate in reality. We create reality." (00:00:24)
- "All the ingredients for civil war should already be in place." (00:00:08)
- "The military industrial complex it's not designed to win wars. It's designed to transfer taxpayer money to a transnational elite" (00:01:41)
- "The military-industrial complex it's not designed to win wars. It's designed to transfer taxpayer money to a transnational elite, right? It's it it's meant to line the pockets of the national security apparatus, the the deep state." (00:17:00)
- "Cheap energy is the foundation of the entire modern global economy." (01:01:36)
Detailed Summary
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Detailed Episode Summary: Geopolitical Analysis, Military Vulnerabilities, and Systemic Predictions
Episode Overview: A Sweeping Analysis of American Decline
This episode features Professor Jean presenting a comprehensive geopolitical analysis predicting a Trump 2024 electoral victory, a U.S. invasion of Iran, and civil and economic collapse by 2027-2030. The discussion examines America's military vulnerabilities, failed weapons systems, and Iran's asymmetric warfare capabilities while exploring the deeper ideological conflict between globalist transnational capital and nationalist factions. The episode traces historical origins of modern finance from the Bank of England's founding in 1694 through Calvinist capitalism to contemporary predictions of systemic collapse by 2030.
America's Three Military Vulnerabilities
Professor Jean identifies three critical weaknesses undermining American military capability that create conditions for strategic failure.
- Political will deficit: Approximately 80% of Americans oppose a first strike against Iran, with only about 40% supporting ongoing military operations against the country.
- Offshored manufacturing capacity: America transferred its factories to China, eliminating the industrial base needed to sustain prolonged warfare; the last time America mobilized its entire society for war was World War II.
- Unwillingness to sustain casualties: America has lost wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq with no real consequences for military leadership, an ahistorical pattern unlike previous eras where losing meant death, cultural collapse, and national destruction.
- Americans under 35 eligible for the draft are described as difficult to rally for military service compared to previous generations.
- The combination of these vulnerabilities creates conditions where America cannot win a prolonged ground war against a determined adversary like Iran.
Failed Weapons Systems and Military Hardware
The episode provides detailed critique of expensive American military hardware that has proven ineffective in current conflicts, with specific cost figures and performance failures.
- The Gerald Ford nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the world's most advanced at $13 billion, reportedly fled the theater after a fire possibly caused by a drone or ballistic missile attack.
- The F-35 fighter jet costs $100 million each, took 26 years to develop, was shot down by Iran using low-technology radar, and made an emergency landing after being damaged.
- THAAD and Patriot air defense systems costing billions are being penetrated by cheap Iranian Shahid drones costing $20,000-$50,000.
- Two to three Patriot missiles at $1 million each are required to intercept a single low-cost Iranian drone, creating a prohibitive cost exchange ratio.
- America would need to produce approximately 1,000 drones per day to compete with Iran's reported 500 drones daily manufacturing capacity.
- These failures demonstrate that advanced technology does not guarantee battlefield superiority against distributed, low-cost alternatives.
Iran's Asymmetric Warfare Capabilities
Professor Jean explains why Iran presents a unique challenge that neutralizes American conventional military advantages through decades of study and preparation.
- Iran has studied American tactics from the 1991 Gulf War and 2003 Iraq invasion for at least 20 years, preparing countermeasures specifically designed to counter shock-and-awe strategies.
- Iran's Moshirak defense strategy uses a decentralized spider's web structure where each node handles local defense independently, making decapitation strikes ineffective against a distributed command network.
- Ground forces remain necessary in modern warfare to absorb air defense, artillery, and drone attacks; Ukraine's front lines feature extensive fiber optic networks attached to drones to avoid jamming.
- Iran's size and determination are compared to Vietnam, suggesting any ground invasion would become a prolonged quagmire rather than a decisive campaign.
- Iran could theoretically build 10 nuclear devices within three weeks using existing uranium and open-source technology, though game theory analysis concludes Iran won't use them given America's thousands of retaliatory nuclear weapons.
- Iran could close the Strait of Hormuz, preventing transportation of fertilizer, oil, and LNG globally; the Middle East provides approximately 20% of the world's oil supply.
Trump's Cabinet Factions and Internal White House Dynamics
The episode describes a fundamental divide within Trump's second-term administration between anti-war and pro-war factions with competing strategic visions.
- Trump organized his second-term cabinet into two opposing camps: an anti-war faction (Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence, JD Vance) versus a pro-war faction (Marco Rubio, Jared Kushner, Peter Hegseth).
- Tulsi Gabbard gained her position partly due to her anti-war, anti-military-industrial complex reputation and public profile opposing previous Middle East interventions.
- The speaker analyzes Trump's strategy using the Chinese concept of "pang sha" (烹杀)—giving enemies what they want so their actions blow up in their face and they receive the blame.
- Trump reportedly views Kushner as disloyal for disappearing after January 6th and resents him for "stealing" Ivanka, reflecting personal rather than purely strategic considerations.
- If conflicts go badly, media and the public will blame Kushner rather than Trump, according to the analysis, suggesting Kushner serves as a designated scapegoat.
- Zelensky told Trump that Ukraine suspended its constitution due to war, and Trump responded approvingly, demonstrating comfort with constitutional suspension during wartime.
- War is presented as a mechanism of political transformation allowing leaders like Trump to consolidate power domestically while engaged abroad.
Eschatology and Religious Frameworks Driving Middle East Escalation
The episode explores how religious eschatological traditions provide powerful motivating frameworks for actors in the Middle East conflict, creating convergence points across different faiths.
- Eschatology (from Greek "escaton" meaning "the end") refers to each religion's theory of how the world ends or humanity reunites with God, serving as a powerful motivator making believers more determined and cohesive.
- The law of escatological convergence describes how different eschatological traditions align at certain points, with the 1948 reconstitution of Israel identified as a major convergence point across Christian and Jewish traditions.
- Christian Zionists expect the rapture and return of Jesus, with the establishment of Israel as a prerequisite for end-times events.
- Extremist Jewish eschatology holds that Jews must act first to reconstitute Israel, build the Third Temple, and fight the war of Gog and Magog before God sends the Messiah.
- The Third Temple must be built where the Al-Aqsa Mosque (third holiest site in Islam) currently stands, requiring its destruction and triggering religious war across the Islamic world.
- Netanyahu has warned that Iranian missiles came close to Al-Aqsa Mosque, Western Wall, and Church of Holy Sepulchre, claiming Iranians would destroy them if capable.
- The Temple Institute in Jerusalem has already constructed the Third Temple brick by brick over recent years; a Texas farmer spent millions engineering perfect red heifers for sacrifice to consecrate the ground.
- Archaeological digs have been conducted under the Al-Aqsa Mosque for two years, which the speaker interprets as cover for implanting explosives for eventual control demolition.
- Russia's strategic approach incorporates "Third Rome" eschatology, believing Moscow succeeds Rome and Constantinople with no fourth Rome to follow.
Iran War Timeline and 2027-2030 Collapse Predictions
Professor Jean provides specific forecasts for the coming years based on troop movements, historical patterns, and systemic vulnerabilities.
- Tens of thousands of troops are being transported to the Middle East, setting conditions for major escalation with a predicted ground invasion of Iran lasting 4 years optimistically, possibly 10-20 years.
- America will send 100,000 to 500,000 ground troops into Iran, creating a quagmire like Vietnam where Iran is too large and determined to conquer quickly.
- By 2027: national draft framework should be in place, ICE will be much more powerful with National Guard deployed to major cities including Los Angeles, Boston, and Chicago.
- The global economy should collapse by 2027 according to the analysis, driven by Middle East oil supply disruptions and cascading economic effects.
- Trump's grand vision includes a "North American continental fortress" absorbing Canada, Greenland, and Mexico for self-sufficiency, leveraging Mexican labor and Canadian resources.
- Trump is predicted to remain in office beyond 2028 through constitutional suspension during war or VP succession with Don Jr. taking over.
- The speaker claims the "deep state" spent $6 billion to rig the 2020 election, though this claim is unsubstantiated in mainstream sources.
- By 2030, nations will experience internal civil wars within their borders as nationalist and globalist factions clash, with America and Europe both affected.
Historical Origins of Modern Finance and Transnational Capital
The episode traces the Bank of England's founding in 1694 as a private institution that accepted gold deposits and lent to Parliament, financing mercenary-based wars more safely than lending to individual monarchs who could default.
- The Dutch Republic transferred its gold to England following the Glorious Revolution of 1688 because its wealth was vulnerable to Spanish theft, unifying British and Dutch Protestant empires.
- The need to expand wealth to repay debts drove British Empire expansion, including colonization of India and the forced opium trade in China through the Opium Wars.
- During America's Gilded Age, transnational capital from the Bank of England and London shifted to America as it industrialized, with John D. Rockefeller reportedly monopolizing the oil industry with transnational capital backing to buy competitors.
- Vikings spent most of their time farming and fishing, raiding monasteries for gold (especially Bibles with gold covers), and selling captured slaves to Ottomans or Byzantines; they spent raid earnings on community feasts and valued reputation and storytelling over saving.
- The global economy runs on the US dollar, facilitating international trade, with financiers (Wall Street, City of London, Federal Reserve, Bank of International Settlements) identified as "one group of people in different guises".
- Fractional reserve banking creates money through a $1 million deposit becoming $2 million on ledgers (original deposit plus created loan), originating in early Venice banking where gold receipts became currency as long as people believed the contract had value.
Globalist vs. Nationalist Conflict and Elite Overproduction
The deeper conflict beyond left-right divides is presented as pitting globalists favoring rules-based international order (NATO, UN, EU) against nationalists arguing the system enables elite wealth extraction to financial havens.
- The true conflict is between finance (maintaining money as God) and the tech sector (promoting AI as God), with Silicon Valley wanting to replace finance as the world's "game master."
- Transnational capital's stated goal is for America to collapse around 2030 to "reset," destroy wealth, and enable capital to return and buy assets cheaply while accessing water, oil, resources, and land.
- Pax Judeica is proposed as where transnational capital will base its strength, drawing on Middle East trade routes, strategic African access geography, and oil for powering AI data centers.
- The rules-based international order (UN, WTO) is described as a superstructure disguising financiers' real power and enabling wealth extraction.
- Peter Turchin's concept of "elite overproduction" describes societies reaching a point where power crystallizes bureaucratically and controlling power becomes more important than wealth creation.
- Major market crashes are predicted from asset inflation bubbles in private credit, AI, and real estate requiring wealth destruction for elite control to be maintained.
- The host claims transnational capital derives significant wealth from global drug trafficking and money laundering, with the British opium trade through Hong Kong as the historical origin of offshore networks.
- Jeffrey Epstein is identified as at the epicenter of intelligence networks, criminal networks, and science networks, serving as an example of how these mechanisms extract value from the system.
Tech Sector, Christian Nationalism, and AI Theocracy
An emerging alliance between the tech sector and Christian nationalism is identified as a counter to transnational capital, representing a fundamental shift in elite power structures.
- Peter Thiel exemplifies the tech sector's convergence with Christian nationalism, discussing creating God through AI and making AI sentient.
- JD Vance represents the Christian nationalist political faction rising within the Republican Party, providing a political vehicle for technocratic governance.
- The speculative vision combines elements of "The Handmaid's Tale" scenario with digital surveillance infrastructure.
- Christian nationalist theocracy would require citizens to receive microchips serving as digital ID, currency, and surveillance tools.
- AI companions and monitoring systems would enforce Biblical procreation roles ("be fruitful and multiply"), creating a comprehensive social control mechanism.
- Trump promotes nationalist parties across Europe including Poland, Hungary, Austria, Germany's AfD, Spain's Vox, and Marine Le Pen in France, building a transnational coalition.
- The host claims Canada is not a true nation-state but a resource colony controlled by the British monarchy, explaining Trump's acquisition interest.
- Trump's naval investment in the Caribbean may disrupt drug trade funding transnational capital elites, representing a geopolitical move against established power structures.
Political Analysis and Intelligence Community Investigations
The episode addresses Trump's relationship with intelligence communities and specific investigations, examining claims of collusion and corruption.
- The Robert Mueller investigation found no evidence linking Donald Trump and his family to Vladimir Putin, despite years of media speculation.
- Merrick Garland's team found nothing incriminating Trump in the Epstein files during their investigation, though the files themselves remain partially sealed.
- Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Larry Summers, and Steven Pinker were among elite figures documented flying to Epstein Island, while Trump was described as an outsider to that circle.
- In 2016, mainstream media promoted Russiagate daily, claiming Putin had blackmail on Trump and put him in office, which was ultimately found to be unsubstantiated.
- Joe Biden had state secrets in his Delaware garage and Hillary Clinton had a private email server, but neither faced FBI raids unlike Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence.
- The speaker speculates Epstein made money as an arms trafficker and inherited Robert Maxwell's transnational network; Leslie Wexner reportedly gave Epstein power of attorney over all finances.
Predictive Methodology and Game Theory Framework
The speaker reveals his analytical framework for making geopolitical predictions, combining academic approaches with practical experience from competitive environments.
- His predictive model rests on three pillars: game theory (analyzing each nation-state's worldview driven by culture, history, and political system), historical patterns, and eschatology (end-times religious frameworks).
- Game theory has limitations—it requires perfect information to predict behavior accurately, which is rarely available in geopolitics where adversaries hide their intentions.
- The speaker developed his approach through tournament poker analysis, examining the "metagame" and player motivations to understand entire strategic systems.
- Money is presented as "alchemy that doesn't exist outside human belief"—its value comes only from collective imagination and shared belief systems.
- Kant's philosophy states there is no objective reality; everything is a creation of imagination, differentiating between noumena (things in themselves) and phenomena (things as perceived).
- Plato's allegory of the cave describes people chained facing a wall, seeing only shadows cast by puppets behind them, mistaking shadows for reality itself; the "game masters" and "financiers" in the background create the illusion.
Strategic Philosophy and Israel's Greater Israel Project
The episode concludes with analysis of Trump's strategic worldview and Israel's alleged long-term objectives in the Middle East, suggesting coordinated grand strategies.
- Trump's worldview holds that America has been co-opted by transnational financial elite including Wall Street, the City of London, and the Bank of England, working against American national interests.
- Israel's strategic objective is the "greater Israel project"—controlling the Middle East—requiring America and Iran to destroy each other before America turns its military infrastructure over to Israeli control.
- Trump threatened to blow up every power plant in Iran if losing the war, demonstrating nuclear brinksmanship logic; the U.S. recently destroyed a civilian bridge, with more infrastructure targeting expected as escalation continues.
- Trump has divine messianic self-perception and believes he has a mission to save America that only he understands, which shapes his unconventional negotiating approach.
- Transnational capital profits by soaking conflict through creating chaos, using financial instruments to extract wealth from war-torn regions.
- In this nuclear age, primary weapons are misinformation, propaganda, and psychological warfare to undermine domestic elites rather than armies clashing directly on battlefields.
- The host expresses personal opinion that elite transnational capital figures are not as smart as they think, their empire is over, and transnational capital will be dead in 10 years.
- Calvinism originally linked wealth creation to proving God's favor and spiritual proximity, but post-Enlightenment, material wealth became an end unto itself while transnational capital still operates on Calvinist psychological principles.
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Today's guest uses history to predict wars, elections, and the end of the world. What's your prediction for 2027? All the ingredients for civil war should already be in place. ICE will be much more powerful than people imagine. The global economy should have collapsed by 2027. >> A son of Chinese immigrants in Toronto, he grew up poor, invisible, and obsessed with how power actually works. >> There's no objective reality. Everything is a creation of our imagination. What we do every day is we participate in reality. We create reality. >> Now a high school history teacher in China, he's predicted Trump winning the election, America's invasion of Venezuela, and recently the war between Iran and the US. >> There are three major vulnerabilities of the American military. The first is political will. The American population is not supportive of this war. Second issue is the lack of manufacturing capacity. What America chose to do was offshore its factories to China. Number three, America is not willing to sustain casualties. In this episode, we'll break down the system he uses to predict the future, examine why he's certain America will lose the war in Iran, and question if he is a crazy conspiracy theorist or the only person willing to say the truth about what's coming next. So, by 2045, and this is where it gets interesting, what do you think happens in 2045? I think Professor Jean, welcome to the Jack Neil podcast. Thanks, Jack. >> Professor Jean, you predicted Trump would win the 2024 election, America would invade Venezuela, and most recently, you predicted the war between the US and Iran. Before we understand how you're able to seemingly predict the future, why do you think the US will lose the war with Iran? So I think right now there are three major vulnerabilities of the American military and I'll just go one by one but the first is political will. The lack of political will meaning that the American population is not supportive of this war. Um close to 80% of Americans oppose uh a first strike against Iran and only about 40% of Americans today still support the military operation against Iran. Um so that's the first issue. Second issue is the lack of manufacturing capacity. So to fight a modern war, you need to produce a lot of munitions, uh a lot of missiles, a lot of tanks. And unfortunately, what America chose to do was offshore its manufacturing capacity, its factories to China. And so that's been a major constraint on America's capacity to sustain this war as it drags on. So that's number two. Number three is that America is not willing to sustain casualties and because it looks bad on TV and already people are are not supportive of this war. So if Americans start arriving back home in body bags then you can imagine major protests across the nation. So um these are the three major constraints on the American military. What I will do now is explain to you why each is problematic. Okay. So the first is the idea of political will and the and the reason why political will is important is that in order to win a modern warfare, you have to move towards something called total war. Okay. And what total war is you structure your entire society to winning the war. your industry, your culture, uh your political system all have to be focused on doing whatever it takes to winning the war. So last time America fought a total war was of course World War II and possibly the Korean War, but World War II is a classic example when um the entire American industrial base shifted from making cars to making tanks. And that's what you have to do in order to win because wars take a long time. They take a lot of resources. your entire population has to be behind it. Um, and unfortunately, Americans grew up watching the Persian Gulf War, 1991, and then the 2003 Iraq war. And these were quick, simple wars that demonstrated America's technological supremacy. It was like a video game. And so, the American population is sort of spoiled. um it's become indifferent to to war and believe that okay, you know, it's going to cost a lot us a lot of money and it's not moral and it's terrible that these um civilians overseas are going to die, but it's not really our problem. >> So, in other words, I doubt whether or not the American population is willing to make the sacrifices necessary in order to win this war. Is this this concept of the aura of invincibility that America has? >> Right. Okay. So, um the idea of the aura of invisibility is how America projects power. Right. So, America doesn't want want to fight a war. America just wants to scare people. And so, the way that America has fought wars these past 20 years is using three pillars. Okay? These three pillars are aerial supremacy. So Americans don't send in ground troops. They just um attack from the air. And you can't really do regime change from the air. You have to do it from the ground. So the way they compensate for this um is by using proxies. Right? So you look at the wars in Libya and Syria where um these rebel groups, these insurgents were supported by American air power. Okay, that's number one. Number two is using propaganda. So controlling the media narrative through New York Times, through the CNN, through social media, trying to give the illusion that this war is just, this war can be won really quickly and there will be no consequences to this war. And the third is um the US dollar, which is that the Americans have the world reserve currency. Therefore, they can bribe anyone and everyone to do their bidding. Right? So you look at the wars in Syria and Libya where these insurgent groups were funded by CIA operatives with endless um like like cash bags, right? And that and these three pillars give the illusion of the aura of invability and invisibility which is America cannot be defeated. The problem is that it's just an illusion. It's just theater, right? So when you run up against an enemy who doesn't care, who's like I'm going to fight you to the end because I don't really believe you and also I'm not afraid to die and also you're attacking my home and I'm not going to just surrender my home to you. Then this illusion shatters and and that's the problem in uh Iran right now. And so when this illusion shatters then you have to move towards total war which is okay now I have to commit my resources to actually winning this war. And unfortunately, Americans aren't willing to do that yet, right? So the classic limits test is gas prices. How much are Americans willing to pay for gas prices? And you know, if right now your concern is gas prices, it probably means you don't really care about winning this war, right? >> Because if this war continues, it's not just gas prices that are that are the problem. It's going to be a national draft. It's going to be economic collapse. It's going to be um riots in the streets. It's going to be almost civil war in America. That's what you have to do if you actually want to win win this war. That's how wars are fought and won in the modern age. Total commitment, total focus in win this war. And again, the question is, do the Americans have political will to fight and to win this war? And this is a big question mark. And for America to much of the political will, you would also needed to see a radical transformation in American society uh from one that's a focus on more uh liberty individ individual rights to more authoritarian mechanisms. Um the the national draft of course is the classic example. And so um there are ways that you can muster political will. Okay. So false flag operations are one way, right? Okay, so back to World War II, right? What dragged America into World War II? Pearl Harbor. Before Pearl Harbor, most Americans were dead set against intervening in the wars in Europe and in in Asia. But Pearl Harbor changed all that. It's possible that as this war drags on and more and more Americans die, then there'll be a surge of patriotism um and more Americans will volunteer to fight this war. It's also possible that as the economy gets worse and worse, as people lose their jobs, as the stock market falters, and people feel a deep sense of anxiety and desperation, they believe that it's important to maintain the empire. Okay, so these are all possibilities, but you will have to make this transition in order to sustain this war. And right now, we're not really sure if America is willing to make the sacrifices necessary. Okay, so that's one big question, political will and you will need this in order to fight total war. Okay, so that's the first problem. Second problem is manufacturing capacity, right? So again the issue is that these past 20 years especially um with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the coming of the unipolar moment America has financialized meaning that um America is the world's hedgeimon and so every everyone wants to invest in America because they believe it's the safest and best place to invest and so you have all this money coming from the Middle East from Japan from China from Russia from Europe and so Wall Wall Street takes his money and then recycles it into the American economy and creates all these risky financial assets called derivatives um in order to um recycle all this excess capital, all this liquidity. This is what led to the 2008 subprime crisis uh when Wall Street thought that it was invincible. It was too big to fail. it started to engage in all the sort of like risky uh behavior and it collapsed the uh global economy and it was only kind of easing the intervention of the Federal Reserve that saved Wall Street as well as the American economy. But the problem with 2008 is nothing changed, right? U I I think that only one mid-level executive was put in prison and in fact there were many executives who got bonuses after they collapsed the um economy. So um we are still in a period in America where there's massive financialization where it seems as though the entire economy is a Ponzi scheme. And so there are two major bubbles right now. There's the um AI data center bubble which is you know these companies seven of them spending tons of trillions of dollars and building building these data centers creating a product that no one actually needs or wants. Right? That's the first problem. Second is the private credit bubble which is very similar to 2008 um great financial crisis. So, America is addicted to finance. Or another way of saying that is America's addicted to gambling, right? So, if you're rich, you put your money in the stock market, but if you're not rich, if you're young, you gamble, right? There's all these gambling sites now that are very popular that are u accessible. >> Meme coins as well are a great example of financialization. >> It's gambling, right? Cryptocurrency, gambling markets. it's all this get-rich um scheme um that's being promoted in in America. So in order to fight this war, you can't do that because you need to move towards manufacturing. You need to move towards resource um exploration and exploitation. And America doesn't Americans don't really want to do the gritty work anymore, right? So back in the 50s and 60s, Americans were proud to be factory workers to to actually create stuff. And now I think that blue color work, blue color work, it's sort of like what illegal immigrants do. It's not what real Americans do. Um I'm sure there are lots of Americans who would love to work in a factory until they actually work in a factory and recognize how hard it is. So So that's the second question. Are Americans willing to return to the factories and do the um hard work of build building the manufacturing sector in order to win this war? Okay, that's the second big question. Okay, the third big question is this uh casualties. Are Americans willing to die in the Middle East? And the problem is that again Americans are don't really know what war is, right? So, um, you know, if you if you think about it around the world, if you if you fight a war, you lose the war, well, your kids die, you die, your family dies, your nation dies, the memory of who you are dies, war has consequences. But you know what? These past 40, 50 years, America has fought many wars and has lost many wars. It lost Vietnam. It lost um Afghanistan. It lost Iraq. And the consequence for America is this. You have these fourstar generals put in front of Congress where for a couple hours they're heranged by congressmen and they feel kind of, you know, uncomfortable, but that's it, right? Like there's been real no consequences for America when America loses a war. And that is ahistorical. That's not normal. And unfortunately this time it's different. If America goes into Iran with ground troops, if it's committed for four or five years, if America loses its war, it means the collapse of American economy. It means the collapse of the global economy and it means the collapse of the petro dollar uh America the American dollar as a world reserve currency. It basically means Americans are now poor. Okay. And so >> sorry to stop you. Does my hair like look flat right now? It does. Okay. Um, one sec. Ah, my bad. Yeah, this is my uh friend Lance's company. It's called Based. 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So, again, that is bassbodyworks.com code jackneal or you can scan the QR code on screen because confidence shouldn't come at the cost of your health. But anyway, guys, back to the podcast. So, these are three big questions. Uh, one is, is the nation able to unify? um politically around the idea of winning this war in the Middle East to believe that it is a cause worth dying for. Second question is, is America willing to transition its economy from financialization back to manufacturing, which which would actually mean radical social transformation. >> And the third big question is how much sacrifice are Americans willing to make in this war? Are they willing to die in the Middle East? Okay. And again, these are three big questions. And given what I've seen, given past behavior, I think it'd be very hard for Americans to make this transition on the manufacturing. I just want to clarify that. Are you saying like u military like firearms, uh tanks, that type of manufacturing or you just mean general manufacturing as a whole? >> Let's put it very simply. Okay. You need drones to win this war. >> Okay. Why? Because right now you have asymmetry going on. We just say the economics of war don't make any sense right now. America because of the military-industrial complex. It's put billions of dollars into this expensive air defense network. Right? So you've got the FAT system um thermal high altitude air defense. You've got the Patriot systems. And the military industrial complex it's not designed to win wars. It's designed to transfer taxpayer money to a transnational elite, right? It's it it's meant to line the pockets of the national security apparatus, the the deep state. >> And so they build these expensive weapons and they look really fancy and they're really impressive, but they've never been tested in war. >> Okay. So now we're seeing what these systems look like in war. And it's been an embarrassment for America because you've got these aircraft carriers, the Gerald Art Ford nuclearpowered aircraft carrier, the most advanced in the world, $13 billion price tag. It's done nothing in this war. In fact, it sort of ran away from the theater because of this laundry fire. And people are speculating that it's not really laundry fire. It was like they were hit by a drone or a blissing missile. So the Iranians have proven that they can actually attack and sabotage these in supposedly invincible war machines. So 13 billion dollars zero forward and it's afraid to fight. Okay, that's that's number one. Number two is you've got these um most advanced airplanes, the F-35, the most advanced in the world, cost $100 million each. Took 26 years to fully develop it. You can't It's supposed to be stealth. You can't see it. The Iranians shot one. It was forced to make an emergency landing. What did they shoot it with? Um, we're not sure, but um, it was it was probably a a a missile of some sort. So, meaning that the Iranians were able to with their low technology radar lock onto an F-35, the heat signature and launch a missile added. And and also, I mean, like, let's be realistic. These are very complex machines that are being asked to um fight a war of attrition, meaning they they're going in every single day for a long time. And when you have this, you know, very very expensive technology, eventually you're going to have maintenance issues. So these machines were not designed to fight a long war. They were meant to do like a at most twoe war. Okay. So So it's showing the wear and tear of the American military mission. Okay? So that's the F-35. And then you have the Patriot systems. And unfortunately, if you look at what's happening in the Middle East and in Israel, there's a lot of leakage. Okay? These things are billion billion dollar um machines and they're supposed to defend your um your air, but these cheap um Iranian drones are getting through. So, let's go back to the economics. The right now a Patriot missile to shoot one Patriot missile in the air cost about a million dollars. The Iranians used the Shihad drones which cost anywhere for between 20,000 to 50,000. you will need about two to three Patriot missiles to shoot down one of these drones. So, the economics doesn't make any sense for you to uh win this war. You have to shift the economics to make it much more sustainable. And that basically means mass manufacturing drones. That also means unfortunately ground troops, right? Because the problem with air defense is it defense against air. So, it is silly for America to send in these advanced fighter jets into Iran against their air defense systems. It doesn't matter even how low tech their air defense is. Eventually, they're going to shoot down some planes and they have shot down two planes uh already. Um yesterday, uh it was reported they shot down an F-15 and now they're looking for the the pilot. The way you counter air defense is you use ground troops, use infantry to clear the air defense so that your um so you can establish aerial supremacy. But it's almost impossible to establish aerosmreacy against an opponent without ground forces. Okay. So um if America is to win this war, it needs ground forces and it needs to have factories mass-produce drones as much as Iran is uh producing drones. So so look at the war in Ukraine. If you just go to the front lines, it's just all fiber optics, right? I mean, you go these villages, it's like webs of fiber optics. Why? Because um the drones are have fiber optics attached to avoid jamming, >> right? >> So, so that's what modern warfare looks like. And and so you need to mass manufacture drones. Right now, Iran can can manufacture about 500 drones a day. America needs to produce about 1,000 to stay competitive. Why is Iran a perfect example of asymmetric warfare? And can you define asymmetric warfare just simply? Asymmetric warfare means that the opponent um does not fight you on equal terms. The opponent is fighting you asymmetrically and using fewer resources to accomplish more strategic objectives. Okay. So um in the cold war it was semical warfare between the Soviet Union and America because you're competing um with the same metrics. So for example um how many how many nuclear weapons did you have? Did you have access to hydro hydrogen weapons? Um how many tanks did you have? How many infantry did you have? Okay. So these were the metrics we used to judge the cold war because uh America and the Soviet Union were symmetrical opponents. >> Asymmetry happens when you fight when when when the when the opposing sides are not equal in terms of economics, demographics and uh geography. So in the Iranian situation, the Iranians had at least 20 years to prepare for today. Okay. Okay. So, you're an Iranian strategist and you saw what happened in 1991, the Persian Gulf War. You saw what happened in 2003 um operation um Iraqi um freedom. And you know how the Americans fight? Americans fight using aerosmreacy. They come in, it's shocking all they blow everything up. The ground forces come in and sweep everything up. Okay? So, you know it's fast. You know it's deadly. But you also know it's expensive. You can also make the assumption that Americans don't like to fight a war of attrition because then it becomes politically unviable. Okay. So, so if you're an Iranian strategist, what you recognize is that to beat the Americans, you can't fight on American terms. You can't use advanced weapons. You can't go headto-head. You don't want to mash your forces. So, what you do is you hide yourself in the Zagos mountains. you you prepare for a long war. I'm talking like 10 years, possibly 20 years, right? You decentralize your forces. The Iranians use something called the Mosiaak defense, which is say like it's almost like a spider's web where each part, each node is responsible for its own local defense. And if any part breaks down, the surrounding areas come in to um fill out their their defense. But it's decentralized meaning that the American strategy of shock and all decapitation strikes don't really work. Uh because system system is much more resilient, much more fluid than Americans are used to, right? And you try to inflict not military damage because the Americans can withstand that. What you do is you attack economic um uh choke holds. for example humus for example the oil fields of the um Middle East right so that's that's the idea of asymmetrical warfare and the other point I wanted to touch on is you said that it would be hard to rally American sentiment like a 24-year-old kid like me to want to enlist and go fight an American war in Iran if you had to guess what kind of event would happen that would actually rally sentiment of I don't know Gen Z uh people under 35 people eligible for the draft. What kind of event would that be? >> My best guess is it's very hard to create an event that rallies Gen Z, >> right? >> But there is a solution because the idea of fighting this war is you need ground troops to soak up the air defense. you need ground troops to soak up the artillery and the drones, right? This is the economics of war, meaning you're trying to win this war um more efficiently than your opponent, right? So, if they are like if they have like $50,000 Shahit drones, then you need you need a resource a weapon that's cheaper than that. Okay? So, it's possible to use drones, but you also need ground forces. And so where can you recruit um expandable ground forces and it's going to be illegal im immigrants, right? So the idea that you're going to have a national draft and all these Gen Z kids who have pretty comfortable lives compared with their parents' generation, right? Um and they're going to go off to a desert, a m a mountain fortress, and they're going to go and die and be basically cannon fodder. That to me sounds a bit absurd. But what you can do is you can organize a national draft and then have so much political um uh fervor. People are pro protesting so much because quite honestly Jenzi would rather go to prison than go to Iran I would think. Right. But then what you can do is you can trans transition and say fine let's do a compromise. Let's have the illegal immigrants do this. Right. So, it's your choice. You can either go back to um um Latin America or you can go to Iran and win citizenship for your family. Not just for you, but your immediate family, your children, your your your parents, your wife. And quite honestly, I hate to say this, but for a lot of illegal immigrants, this is actually a pretty attractive offer. Um, so if I had to guess, I think they will try false flags and I think they will have national draft and I think this will not work out and so they'll get desperate and they'll start to recruit illegal immigrants to fight this war. And what state has the highest number of illegal immigrants? >> Yeah, I'm not actually sure. >> Yeah, I was just I was trying to guess where an event might happen. that logic's out and it seems like sentiment is definitely anti- illegal immigration at least in the US. >> I'll also say that there's there's going to be another false flag that people don't anticipate which is an attack on America's financial infrastructure. Okay, so the data centers that undergur the um banking system, right? So you have a bank bank account, right? And it's all stored on a server somewhere. What happens if that server gets blown up? money is gone. Then your money is gone, right? And so I point this out because um America has a huge problem which is there's too much liquidity in the system. And so if you're trying to run a financial system, you can't have that because if you if there's too much liquidity, no one actually works, right? Right? If you got a million dollar sitting in a bank, you're like, "Okay, I could just sit at home and gamble with it or do Only Fans or I could go to work from 9 to5, put up with with a boss, do work that is meaningless and get paid nothing for it." Right? So, you have the situation where no one's no one no one wants to work anymore. So, the only solution to that is you just destroy the um banking system. You you burn out people's cash. So now they're forced to work. You got these boomers who sit sit these boomers might have like $3 million in the bank account and then and then much more in stock market, right? And then much more in real estate. And so they they can just support their kids and their grandkids. You can't have that, right? If you're going to transition back to a manufacturing economy. Based on what you've said, I think it would be unreasonable to say that Trump's ego is so large that he thinks he would win this war. Do you think Trump is trying to lose the war in Iran on purpose? So, um, that's a really good question and I think it's a very complicated question. So, I I I want to break it down into parts. Okay. >> So, the first part I I I want to look at is what goes on in Trump's head. What motivates him? And he is a reality TV star. He um he spent all of his life in the tabloids, right? And being a tabloid means that you're just constantly curating, manufacturing your image in the public. So, uh, in the ' 80s, his image was that of a billion billionaire playboy, right? So, he's always with like these, uh, beautiful models. But the thing that people don't recognize about Donald Trump is he's very, very strategic and he's very manipulative and he's very deliberate in everything he does. And so, I I'll give you an example of that, okay? I didn't know this until um I think two years ago, but I just found out that Donald Trump does not drink. He's never drunk. He refuses to touch alcohol. And that's kind of dissonance, right? Because you imagine while you're building a playboy and you you host like the most lavish parties in New York, you are dating supermodels and you are hanging out with um the celebrities. So you don't drink. So So picture this where you know like like it's a ballroom. You got a thousand of the most beautiful, wealthiest people in America and they're getting drunk and they're doing drugs in the bathroom. And Donald Trump, he's the host. He's going around and he's shaking hands, conversing with people, taking pictures, but he's not drinking. What kind of man does that? Why would he do that? So, my only interpretation is that Donald Trump, he's deliberate, okay? He's been planning this for a long time. If you go back to the late 80s, early 90s, and like this guy's going to like this Republican National Convention, Democratic National Convention, he's talking to CNN. He's saying like, you know what, I should run for president and if I if I ran, I would win. >> Okay. So, so people don't really appreciate this about Donald Trump. Right? So, that's the first point I make. Second point I would make is Evan thinks Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. But my question is this. If he were in the Epstein files, wouldn't Joe Biden and his attorney general, Marlik Garland, wouldn't they have exposed this during the four years they were in office when they had access to all the Epson files? >> And people also forget that Donald Trump is hated by the elite. He was hated by Jeffrey Epstein. Why? Because he didn't play by the rules. He wasn't part of the club, right? So, you look at all these people who were flying to Epstein Island, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Larry Summers, um Steven Pinker, okay? Just the most elite in politics, in finance, and in u academia. And Donald Trump, he maybe he did go, but he wasn't part of that club, right? So, Donald Trump was an outsider for most of his life. Like look, if you go back to the 80s and you were to survey like the most powerful man in uh New York City, okay, the people actually ran New York City, they would every one of them would say, "Donald Trump, this guy's a clown. He's a clown. He's stupid. He's useless. He's bankrupt. It's just his dad's money." Okay? He's playing with his dad's money. So, Donald Trump has always been an outsider. He's always felt persecuted. So I would I would just um put everything together. Okay, this guy has been planning something since the 80s. He's very deliberate. He's very disciplined. He's not part of the elite the way the way that it's traditionally understood. If if if he were, he'd be best friends with with with like the Clintons and the Obamas and no one would oppose him in 2016 when when he became president. People forget that in 2016 when he was president and he had this inauguration, no one went because like no one wanted to be associated with this guy even though he was president president of the United States and the media mocked him every single day. And people forget this but in 2016 the big thing was Russia gate where Donald Trump was clearly an agent of Russia. Putin had blackmail on him and um Putin put him in office and and and that was the idea of Russia gate and that was something that the media the mainstream media promoted every single day and it turned out to be a nothing burger because Robert Mueller did a investigation and if you just look looked at Muller report he just said it very clearly in the report there's no evidence at all linking Donald Trump and his family to Vladimir Putin. And I would say the same same about Jeffrey Epstein where I'm sure that Mara Garland had a huge team looking for anything that could incriminate Donald Trump. There was nothing in the Epstein files. So this is a guy who associates with like the most perverted, the sleest people on the planet Earth, but he himself is not implicated in whatever they do. That's really strange. All right. So, all I'm saying is that I think Donald Trump is much more deliberate, much more methodical, uh much more strategic than people give him credit for. The issue though is what does he want? Okay, so that's the second part of the question. What does he really want? And Americans are Americans think that, you know, Donald Trump, he's corrupt. He wants to be the richest man in America. And that doesn't really hold water because um if he wants to be the richest man in America, why is he pissing everyone off like this, right? Why doesn't he just sell himself out to these societies, these uh billionaires? Why antagonize them the way he's done, right? With in 2016, he was like, you know, like, let's kick out these illegal immigrants. Let's not go go fighting more wars. Uh these billionaires have been stealing from the country all their lives. like why antagonize the powerful like this, right? So, the idea that Donald Trump is only interested in money doesn't really hold water. So, um here's my theory of Donald Trump and again um let me know if you have any questions. Okay. >> Right. But he believes in his heart he is on a mission from God to save America. That's literally what he believes. He believes every day when he's alone in the bedroom doing Twitter or watching Fox News, God is whispering in his ear. He feels he has a divine connection to God that no one else does. He feels that he's almost like Jesus where he's on a secret messianic mission that only he understands but no one else does. But that's the curse that he has to suffer in order to save America. That's what he believes. All right. And then the question then is what's his mission then? If you just look at his rhetoric, if you look at his actions, he has certain worldview, which is that America has been co-opted and corrupted by the transnational financial elite, Wall Street, the city of London, um, Bank of England, okay, Bank of Sentiments, okay, just the transnational capital. And as a result, America has lost its purity. America fought a revolution to get rid of these guys, right? And now they're back and they control the Federal Reserve. They control the milit military-industrial complex. They control the deep state. It's all the same people really. And so America is forced into these wars overseas. America is forced to allow illegal immigration which dilutes the purity, the heritage, the culture of America without without identity, without culture, without history. Who are you? What are you? Right? Um, uh, it's these people that promote DEI, that promote world politics, which intentionally brainwashes, indoctrinates young people into believing the most absurd things about themselves and the world, which reduces the capacity of American men to be strong, to be masculine. >> Um, and so that's what he believes. And so then the question then is okay if you believe this and you believe that only you can save America, how do you do so? Well, in his first term, he started himself with generals. He started himself with people who knew Washington DC well and he played by the rules. And what happened? They cheated him, right? 2020 he won that election fair and square. The American people supported everything he did. He he worked hard for America and his entire cabinet betrayed him. The deep state spent $6 billion to rig that election to steal it from him. And then and then they staged January 6 which was a protest uh Ghana mock but they called an interaction and they impeached him and they and they tried to put him in jail or at the very least prevent him from ever um standing for re-election again. They tried to destroy him. Then after he goes home to Mara Lago, they raided his home for what exactly? for having confidential uh information. Listen, in Washington DC, everything is confidential. If I give you a piece of paper that has my name on it, it's confidential, right? And you take it home. Well, well, now you have a state secret sitting in your garage. Joe Biden had state secrets in his garage in Delaware. Okay. Hillary Clinton had her own private email server. There was no raid, FBI raid on on their homes. Then you have lawfare against Donald Trump. You had like lawsuit after lawsuit. They try to bankrupt him. They try to put him in put him in jail. And so Donald Trump recognized that the strategy of trying to work with the deep state. The strategy of trying to confront these guys head on, that's not going to work. So in the second term, he's he's changed his tact. Okay. His strategy is now I'm going to give these guys all that they want. I'm going to do exactly what they tell me to do. Right? And so what the strategy here is actually interesting because um in China um there's a strategy that managers use to destroy people who threaten them and it's called pang sha in Chinese but the idea of this is you flatter someone to death right so so in the Greek um world the worst thing is the idea of hubris so the gods who the gods want to destroy they first make proud Right? And what that means is you put your enemies on a pedestal. You give them whatever they want. You shine a spotlight on them. And then first of all, whatever happens is going to blow up in their face, but also they get all the blame for it. Whereas before in the first term, it was Donald Trump that got all the blame for everything that happened. >> Right? So I will give an example. Everyone thinks that Jared Kushner is the puppet master, right? He's the one who is manipulating things behind the scenes. He's the one who's actually uh controlling Middle East policy in America. And the evidence is he goes to Ukraine, negotiate negotiates with Putin on a peace deal. Um he goes to Gaza to negotiate the peace deal there. He creates support of peace and he goes to Iran to negotiate a peace deal. Why is this guy who's not even a government employee involved in the most highstakes political negotiations for America? Him and his buddy Steve Woff, right? And so Evan just says, "Well, Jared Kushner is the one who's controlling Donald Trump." But let me ask you this question. If you were the true puppet master, will you put yourself on stage? Would you have that spotlight shone on you so that if something goes wrong, everyone blames you? Everyone now thinks if this war in Iran goes sideways, it's Jared Kushner's fault. If this war in Ukraine um explodes, it's Jared Kushner's fault. If things don't work out in Israel, it's Jared Kushner's fault. It was never Donald Trump. It was Jared Kushner. And so that's what Donald Trump is doing this term. He is letting his enemies get on stage and make complete jackasses of themselves. Right? So, but you're like, "Wait, um Jared Kushner is Trump's son-in-law. They're not enemies. Yes, they are. If you know Donald Trump's personality, he values one thing and one thing only, loyalty. Jerkin is not loyal to Donald Trump. And we know because after January 6 when everyone was distancing himself or herself from Donald Trump, Jerus disappeared. Okay, just go back to that time when Trump's cabinet was quitting on him when the Republicans were calling for his impeachment. Jared Kushner and Rean Trump who made a lot of money in Trump's first term, they disappeared because they didn't want to lose their friends. They don't they didn't want to be associated with the dumps of fire that was Donald Trump. Do you think that Donald Trump might have a grudge against Jar Kushner? >> That would make sense to me. >> I would think so. And do you think Donald Trump is a guy to like just go? Do you think that he's like, hm, well, you know, yeah, he betrayed me, but at the same time, he's still my son-in-law, and you know, he's a father of my grandchildren, and he's a husband to my uh favorite daughter, Ivanka. No, he's like, screw this guy. First of all, he stole my daughter from me. Second of all, he made her convert to Judaism. What is that crap? And third of all, when I needed him the most, he ran away. Yeah, it's really hard to keep track of where all of your money is going. 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Again, that is jackneil.com/hyle if you want to run your entire business with one platform. But anyway, guys, back to the podcast. So Jared Kushner comes back from exile and now he is the most high-profile member of Trump's team in the Middle East. Do you think that's a good thing for him or a bad thing for him? >> I think he thinks it's a good thing for him. >> He does. But that's why Trump is so good because he gives you what you want, right? If you love someone, you want to protect that person. You want to do what's right for that person. You don't give that person whatever he or she wants. I have this um child, my my boy, he's like four. Every day he's saying to me, "I want candy. If you don't give me candy, I I hate you. You don't love me." And I'm like, "Okay, I don't love you then." Right? I will say uh just to close a loop that people might be thinking about is I don't think the average individual like is thinking that Jared Kushner is making all the decisions, but I think that the most important people in DC and the most important people in the media assume that to be true. So, the second order effects if something does go bad in Iran would be that uh the media will put the blame on Kushner and people, the average American will start to put the pieces together there. Um I don't think they'll just be like, "Oh, it was Trump's fault." Uh because the media will feed them that it was Jared Kushner. Is that right? >> Right. So, um that's part of it. Okay. But the thing about Donald Trump is he is a real reality TV star. So, he's thinking in terms of like plot lines and narrative. Okay. So, what's happening is that Donald Trump has betrayed MAGA because the first thing that he's promised MAGA is no more wars, >> right? So he started this war unprovoked against Iran and this is seen as a betrayal and that's why so many influential um MAGA people such as Tucker Carlson um have come out and opposed this war because it's a betrayal of all that MAGA stands for which is America first. So what so he's doing this again to put his enemies on a pedestal to give them what they want to collapse the military-industrial complex in the financial sector who are his enemies really of from the first term right but he also has to think ahead and say how do I redeem myself in the eyes of MAGA how do I get out of this dumpster fire right what's my offramp and so at some point at when it's clear that this war is just a complete dumpster fire and he needs to bail. Okay, he's going to bail because he because he's not invested in this war. He's got no ego in this thing, >> right? His job is to get a third term so that he can save America. And whether or not America wins this war, loses this war, he doesn't really care. It's it's it's not a factor in his calculations. But he needs to figure out how to create an off. Okay? So ask yourself this question. Why is Tulsi Gabbard in his cabinet? Why is she director of national intelligence? Where did she come from? She's a Democrat. And like why would she be given such a powerful position in Washington DC? The reason why is everyone associates her with anti-war. Everyone associates her with anti- military-industrial complex. Right? So in other words, um, Donald Trump came into his second term creating two camps. You have the anti-war camp, JD Vance and Kelsey Gabbard, and you have like the pro-war people, uh, Marco Rubio, um, Jared Kushner, um, Peter Hexiff, right? These guys. So it's clear that there's this m that's division in the White House. So why would Trump do that? Because Trump is trying to create a um narrative where at first he was bamboozled by Marco Rubio and Peter Hv and Jared Kushner and Steve Woff, but then JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, they pray to God or whatever, you know, and he saw he saw the light and then he joined JD Vans and Tel Gabard imposing this war. >> Okay. And that's his offer. And then JD Vans and Taigy Gapird will say to Magga, we have to forgive him because he's our only hope to stop this war. Before we get into some of your other predictions, I want to understand how you make them. Uh what would you say is the most important framework you use for evaluating the past, present, and the future? like how do you predict the future? Sure. So in my um predictive model there are three pillars. Okay. The most important is game theory. Second is historical patterns. The third is estology. So I'll explain one one by one. Okay. Game theory. Okay. So game theory. I used to play a lot of poker. Texas hold poker and when I'm playing poker it's usually tournament poker so I have a lot of time to kill so I spend a lot of time just analyzing the metag game okay like like who are these people why are they doing what they're doing and what I discovered playing poker is that there are no dumb players in the game they're all rational but they have their own different perspective on how the game should be played So the world view drives their strategy which drives their action. And if you spend enough time just analyzing a player, you can figure out the person's entire strategy. Um and then I recognized that okay well we can apply this metaphor to geopolitics which is say that each nation state has its own particular worldview as determined by its culture, its history, its political system and then it's going to take this worldview and develop a strategy for how to navigate the world. And sometimes these worldviews will come into conflict with each other. And so once you start to recognize that the world is not set by a universal um standard, but rather that the world is flexible and dynamic and open and that each player um is participating in a zero sum game and trying to optimize his or her advantage in this game, then the world makes a lot more sense. Um, but the problem with this is to do game theory properly, you would need perfect information, right? So, go back to the poker table analogy where if I'm able to see everyone's cards, right? If I'm able to see everyone's minds, then I can predict exactly how they how they behave, right? Um, but you don't have that perfect perfect information. You can only make um guesses. And it's and it's even and this is even more true in geopolitics because you don't have access to the nation's top minds. You don't know you don't know who the leaders are. You don't understand how the political system works. You don't understand this dynamic. So it's very hard for you to gauge their behavior. So what what I do next then is fine, I don't have this perfect information. In fact, I don't have most of this information, but am I able to go back in history and look at events that are similar to today and then am I able to draw analogies between the past and the present and this will help me. Okay. And the third thing I will look at is that of esquetology. Okay. And esquetology um do you want me to explain what esquetology is or >> 100%. Okay. Sure. Okay. Esquetology comes from the Greek word escaton which means the end. So literally it means the study of the end. What it means is um that each religion has its own understanding and theory of how the world ends or how we become reunited with God. And um esquetology is often connected with the most extreme religious elements. And the reason why is that esquetology is very compelling. It's like a movie script. And it's as though people want to act it out because if you see the ending, right? If you if you know that Jesus can return if you act out certain things for certain things if certain things were to line up together. If they were to align then Jesus would return then that makes you much more determined and motivated to actually fulfill this prophecy. >> Right? Right? So the prophecy becomes a plan and that's the and why esquetology is important is that people who do believe in in this esquetology are much more motivated than others, much more energetic, much more cohesive than others, which means that they have more power than other people. And so they are the players to watch out for in this game. And so if you look at what's happening in the Middle East, you can make the argument that a lot of it is driven by esquetology in that you have these Christian Zionists, you have these religious Jews who believe that by manipulating certain events in Middle East by provoking a war there. Basically, you will usher in the end times. Um you you for Christian Zionist, it means the rapture and the return of Jesus. For religious Jews, it means the coming of the Messiah and the building of the of the third temple and the coming of the messianic age. Okay? But also what people don't appreciate is that not only is esquetology a prophecy in the plan, but it's also a hidden history. And the reason why is that we don't have much written history. maybe since the Greeks, okay? But the Greeks go back, you know, 3,000 years. So, so it's not that much. We've been around for at least 10,000 years. You go back to go playepe in the Ice Age cave paintings. Okay? So, we go back a long time. We don't have that history. In fact, we don't have most of our history. So, what religion does is that religion takes the broad history and allegorizes it into narratives, into stories, into religious beliefs that capture the essence of this history. So if we believe that history repeats itself or there's a certain pattern to history, what religion is is it deciphers for you or reveals to you these patterns of history. So think of a astrology, right? Astrology is trying to reveal to you the patterns of the stars, the movement of the stars which then determines um how events unfold in the real world, right? Well, escology is very similar to a astrology in this way in that esquetology is not just a plan. It's it's not just a prophecy, but it's also a hidden framework of how events will turn out, right? And if you look at esquetology, it's mainly about the decline of empire, the decline of civilization. And this has happened a lot in human history. And if you look at what's happening today from a historical perspective, it is the decline of empire, the decline of civilization. It's almost like the bronze age collapse. And so esquetology provides you with a with a pretty good framework of how this thing will unfold. Can you I think the esquetology portion is where a lot of people tune out of your work. They think conspiracy theorist uh this guy like this doesn't make any sense that people would act in a certain way based on the end times. Can you give me like a really simple example of how if you and I shared an esquetology it would lead to our decisions in life being different? Like can you give an example of this? >> Sure. Okay. So let's look at the mo the most um dominant esquetologies. Okay. So you have first start with the uh Jewish esquetology and the Jews believe that um they are the chosen people and they are God's the Yahweh's favorite people and um the highlight or the apex of their civilization was King David's kingdom the Davidic kingdom uh and um King Solomon. Okay. And this was when King Solomon built Solomon's temple, which was a house of God. And this was where Yahweh lived to be with his people. But unfortunately, the Jewish people were not loyal. They were unfaithful. So they started to marry foreign women, which brought in foreign gods. And then Yahweh became annoyed um angry at the infidelity of the Jews. So he left and that and this allowed uh invaders such as the Babylonians and the Assyrians to conquer um Jerusalem. And eventually this led to the Jewish diaspora, the scattering of the Jews. But even in even diaspora, they long to return to Jerusalem to be reunited with their God. And in the Jewish tradition, what the rabbis tell the Jewish people is when God is ready, when the Jewish people are ready for this reunion, the Messiah will come. The Messiah will lead the Jewish people back to the promised land. He will um build the nation of Israel and he will return. He will summon the diaspora to return to Israel and he will build the third temple so that God will come eventually he will face um his enemies in the war of Gog but he will triumph and this will usher in the messianic age. So as Jewish people, our main responsibility is to reflect deeply on who we are, engage in spiritual alchemy, and once we engage in a long process of redemption, and we once our hearts open up to God, then God will send us Messiah. So be a good person and wait and be patient. Okay? So So that's the standard mainstream Jewish understanding. But then you have these extremists who believe that is not God's intention. God's intention is for the Jews to prove that they love God and they will they desire reunion with God. And so it must be the Jews to act out first before God sends his Messiah. And that means you must first resurrect reconstitute the nation of Israel. You must build the third temple. You must fight the war of Gog and Magog. And when the Jews have done all they can, but the entire world seems to have united against Jews because that's the world that that's what the world does actually, unite against Jews. And when God sees that his people are in most desperate need, but he sees that his people have redeemed themselves, have repented and yearn for re of God, then God will intervene and set the world right. And that is when the messianic age will occur. But you must first make the sacrifice necessary in order to to welcome the Messiah and the coming of of Yahweh. Okay? So you can see how in the first iteration, yeah, it's interesting, but in the second iteration, there's sort of a passion, an energy, an excitement to it where it's just like, wow, there's this grand historical script being played out. It's all part of God's divine plan. And I can play my part in achieving this divine plan. So why shouldn't I? If I'm truly faithful, if I'm tr if I truly believe in God, if I want to prove myself worthy, shouldn't I do my part to achieve this plan? Okay. So, does a Jewish esquetology make sense to you? Yeah, that definitely makes sense. And I do want to clarify for people that you're not saying that these uh esquetologies are necessarily real. You're saying that this is what the people believe. So, it changes the way that they act. And that's how you use it to predict the future. Do you think it's important for people to understand the law of uh esquetological convergence to understand how you predict the future? >> Sure. Sure. Okay. >> Hey, really quick. Do you have a 401k, a Roth IRA, or happen to have a lot of money in crypto? Because you're definitely going to want to hear about this. See, the biggest supporters of this podcast right now are the guys over at iTrust Capital. And when they first reached out to me and explained what they did, it literally sounded like a cheat code. See, with their platform, you can convert your existing 401k or Roth IRA into one that lets you buy Bitcoin, Ethereum, and over 80 cryptocurrencies while maintaining the same tax-saving benefits. 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So, there are all these different esquetologies out there. And what you what's really interesting is at certain points they converge together meaning they align at certain points meaning that these are different religious traditions again we're talking only about a minority these extremists right maybe at 1% of the entire uh cohort okay but these are the most energetic they're the most unified they're the most determined right and if they're working together to achieve a certain script and if the script is similar similar at certain points that you can be certain or confident that these things will turn out because at the end of the day we're the players in this grand historical narrative. So what what we do is what determines the history. Um so if you just look at certain convergence points it's amazing how they align. Okay. So one major convergence point is the reconstitution of the nation of Israel. This happened in 1948. Then another convergence point is war and chaos in the Middle East which is happening right now. Another convergence point is the building of the third temple. And this is this is problematic because right now the Alex mosque which is the third holiest site in the Muslim world, it actually sits on where the third temple should be. And so you need to destroy the third holiest site in the second world in order to build your third temple. >> Is that in Jerusalem? >> It is. It's all in Jerusalem. Yes. Yes. Um and so um it if the Alex mosque would be destroyed, this would trigger a religious war. But again, if these esquetologies um are really powerful and true, they all agree there will be a religious war in the Middle East, >> which will lead eventually to the war of Gawk and Magog, which is also what they agree on. They also agree, this is really interesting, is that America will will not be part of this narrative, right? America does not participate in the Middle East. So in other words, what they what they all believe is that America will lose this war against Iran and retreat back to North America and be engulfed in the civil war. That's what they all believe. Um they also believe that um China will not participate in the Middle East affairs and and China will probably retreat also into its own borders and turtle up. Um yeah. Yeah. So, you have this convergence and that's how how I'm able to make these predictions because well, you know, if they want to behave in this way and they're powerful people, well, they'll probably succeed. You made a series of predictions and I have some dates here. What's your prediction for 2027? >> Sure. Okay. So, let's look at some major events that are happening right now. Okay. So, you've got this war in Iran that seems to be escalating day by day. Um, you have the midterms coming up in November and people expect the Democrats to sweep the House in which case they will probably impeach Donald Trump. And you also have basically global economic collapse because the Iranians have um closed the street of humus and so fertilizer and oil LNG are not able to be transported around the world. um 20 um so the uh Middle East provides about 20% of the world the world's oil supply um and it's also high quality um that the rest of the world can actually replicate. Um, so these are all very pressing issues right now, right? So my prediction for how things will unfold is that number one, I think this war between United States and Iran will only escalate. There can be no offramp because first of all, Donald Trump sees this war in Iran as crucial in achieving his meatic mission which we talked about earlier. the military-industrial complex, Pentagon, the military, once they get into a war, they don't back out. You know, they're what I mean, it's I mean, it's human nature, right? Where it's some cost fallacy where you've already invested so much into this war and you're not going to say, you know what, I've lost enough. I'm going to go home, right? Is is going to casino and you've lost a million dollars. You're not going to go home after losing a million dollars. like no no no my luck my luck will turn around right and also like if I go home my wife is going to shout at me for the rest of my life so screw that I'm going to stay here right so some cost fallacy mission creep the Pentagon will not abandon this war it will only escalate you've got tens of thousands of troops being transported to the Middle East anyway right so all the ingredients are in place for a major escalation okay so you'll see a ground invasion of Iran in which case it's going to be a quackmire. America's going to be stuck there for four years I think is optimistic. Four years is optimistic possibly 10 20 years. Okay. So so that's one prediction. Another p prediction is that um the midterms will not go the way people expect them to go. I'm not saying they'll be cancelled, but but what I'm saying is that right now Donald Trump and the Republicans are trying to pass something called the Save America Act, right? Which is say that they want voter ID. Now, the Democrats are saying that that voter ID is akin to voter suppression. And what the reason why is um if you have voter ID laws then you need ICE officers in the polling stations and we know what ICE is like right so um we can imagine that there'll be intimidation there'll be some fraud going on in November um there may there may also be a cancellation of certain elections I don't know how the midterms will turn out. But what I will say is that it's almost insignificant how the midterms turn out because it's possible the Republicans stay uh they maintain a house and a Senate, in which case um Donald Trump continues his war. It's also possible the Democrats put up people call the blue dogs who are national security apparatus uh people who are Democratic. Okay, so these these are people who are SIA who are in Pentagon and they would support this war. So they come in into office and they would impeach Donald Trump if he continue this war. Okay, but it's also possible the Democrats sweep sweep and they impeach Donald Trump and this wouldn't change anything because he still has the power to um fight this war to to the bitter end which and if he's get gets impeached you can imagine that he he'd be even more determined to fight uh this war. So, I don't know what the midterms will turn out. But I will say that it will not be the way people expect it to to work out. I think there'll be a lot of surprises. And I will also say it won't change the trajectory of this war. I think the tra trajectory of this war is already set. Okay. I will also say that by 2027, you should have the framework for national draft already in place. It is possible they've already um passed legislation to um create the national draft. Um or it's possible that um certain people have already been drafted. Um I think by 2027 ICE will be much more powerful than people imagine. I think I think they want to deploy National Guard to all major cities in America because they're preparing for uh economic collapse. They're preparing for financial collapse. They're preparing for the National Draft. They will need law enforcement and National Guard in all the major cities, especially in Democratic cities like Los Angeles and Boston and Chicago, uh where they expect us the resistance to be the greatest. um by 2027 all the ingredients for civil war should already be in place. Um I don't mean actually you know two militaries fighting each other but I'm saying like n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n nationwide discontent and riots and protests and insurgencies. Okay, so this is going to be low-level conflict but it's going to be uh what the civil war will look like for the next few years. Um so um the global economy should have collapsed by uh 24/7. So JP Morgan has reports saying that the world will run out run out of oil um by the end of this month >> and that's because of the closing of the straight. right because of the closing of the straight home moves. >> But the world the problem of the world is that people are used to efficiency which is say getting resources as cheaply and as quickly as possible and the entire world is structured around efficiency and the problem though is that efficiency and resilience are at odds with each other. So the example is just in time inventory right? So um companies don't have inventory because they don't want to be the cost of inventory. So they just use just in time um um supply chains meaning like you will only keep this thing in place for a couple days before you ship it to another place. But what happens if there's a choke choke hold right on on on the supply network like the st moves? Well then then your entire system implodes >> because there's not enough inventory to go around. people aren't stocked up on necessities, right? So, this crisis that we're seeing uh in the global economy will only get worse and it's going to extend to every aspect of life where you think, okay, well, I don't drive a car or I don't fly a plane for the next year. Like, no, no, no, no. That's not how that's how these things work, man. Cheap energy is the foundation of the entire modern global economy. So it's not just travel, it's also food, man. You know, it's possible they have to start rationing food. So a few days ago, um, Prime Minister Albanese of Australia and Prime Minister Kurt Steimemer of the UK start to address their nations. And basically their point is, and it is very subtle language, but their point is buckle up guys, okay? Okay? Because right now it's going to be food shortages, but but imagine if there are um food rationing going on, right? So, this is a world that's unimaginable for most people, but it's a world of um of limited resources. It's a it's a it's a world of re resource conflict, and it's a a world um in transition, of collapse. So, um, buckle up. >> Would you predict that by the end of 2027 will be the destruction of Al Axa? >> Yeah. Okay. So, let's go into what we know about Alex so far. Okay. So, um, there was a Jewish rabbi who was very well known in Israel, but last June during the 12-day war between Israel, United States, and and Iran, he said basically, "Wow, this war would be the perfect opportunity to stage a false flag operation where the Iranian missile is flying over Alex Mos. If we demolish it and we blame it on the Iranians, then the Persians and the Arabs would go to war against each other and we could laugh our heads off, what a great way to to resolve the conflict in the Middle East. Okay, so that's one piece of evidence. Another piece of evidence is uh the idea of the red heer. Um, and so the Jews, the Methanic Jews want to rebuild Solomon's temple, build a third temple. But to do so, you need you need to consecrate the ground. So you need to make a a red heer sacrifice. But according to the Bible, the red heer has to be perfect. And so there's this guy, this farmer in Texas who spent years and years and millions of dollars um genetically engineering perfect red heers, then he shipped them to Israel. And so once they have um all said destroyed, they can make they make the red hers sacrifice and then build the third temple. Okay, the third temple itself has already been designed and built. brick by brick. There's something called the temple institute in Jerusalem and they have built the third temple like but and all they do is move the third temple from the current location to the mosque location. So this can happen right away. Okay, that's another piece of evidence. Also, we know that there have been ar archaeological digs under the exac mosque these past two years. So if you want to control demolition, right? Well, that's what you do. You pretend it's an archeological dig. You implant explosives under the AIC mosque and then you pretend it's an Iranian missile and then you blow up the AIC mosque and then problem solve, right? It's not We didn't do it. It was the Iranian who blew it up. Then you had Netanyahu last week say that an Iranian missile was just so close to the Alex mosque and he said, "Oh, you know, it's was so close and there's there's a great danger that the Iranians will blow up all these holy sites, the the church of the holy supper, the um uh Western Wall, the um uh mosque. The Iranians are that crazy. So watch out. It could happen." Okay. So, you have all these things lined up and like you have to believe that given the fact that right now Israel is run by these religious fanatics, given the fact that for decades these religious fanatics in America, the Christian Zionists have been supporting Israel and given the fact that this war provides perfect pretext and excuse to destroy the mos, they'll probably try something. Okay. But when I I don't I can't say it could be 20 27. It determines on how the war goes. Um I and also like the thing about these religious people is they believe in astrology. They believe in in numerology. Okay. So they have so if they were to do this there has to be a ritual and there has to be a astrological alignment. Right. >> Right. So, they have a planet out, but like I don't have access to this information, so I can't tell you, but they probably haven't planned it out. And they'll probably enact a ritual um involving a false flag in order to destroy the Isaac mosque. That That's my guess. That part really fascinates me. Um and I think we'll touch into that later in the interview. But what would that trigger theoretically the destruction of Alex Mosque? >> Right. So, I I I think they've already telegraphed the plan, which is like they'll pretend it's an missile. >> Yeah. And then they'll do a control demolition of the mosque and they'll blame it on the on the Iranians. And at this point, the war will be so confusing because Americans have sent in ground troops and the war is raging on multiple fronts where the Iranians are also destroying the oil refineries, dissolvation plants of the Middle East. The world, the whole world, especially Africa is in terrible terrible economic um um is in a terrible economic situation. there there might be a food shortage in Africa. There could be a famine in Africa and so the entire world is sort of like distracted. Right. >> Right. So then the Alex and Moss is blown up and like people like what? What was that? What is the Alex mosque? Right. Because like people don't have enough food to eat. There's rioting in the streets. The grocery stores are empty. Right? People don't people argue like okay well you know I don't have a job and my bank account count has gone to zero and there's no food and like everyone's fighting each other like like who cares about the mosque >> right because it was an accidental destruction in theory do you think we're heading toward nuclear warfare >> I am convinced nuclear weapons will will not be used in this war and the reason why is according to game theory Iran, Israel, and United States do not benefit at all from the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Okay, so let's go with Iran. Okay, Iran could in three weeks build 10 nuclear devices because they have the uranium and the technology to build a um nuclear weapon is actually open source. You can actually go online and build and find this information. Okay, it's not that hard. If Pakistan can build a nuclear weapon, so can Iran. Okay. So, but Iran's not going to do that. And the reason why is that for them, it's very important to maintain the moral high ground. And also, the only way they can lose this war is if nukes start flying, right? So, you have 10 nukes. Okay, you might destroy Israel, but then America has thousands of nuclear weapons to destroy you, right? So, that's not strategic. And the Iranians have demonstrated that they are very strategic and very uh thoughtful in their actions. They've shown a lot of restraint in this war uh so far. Okay. So Iran's not that interested in using nuclear weapons. They they probably don't even want a nuclear weapon. Okay. Israel is getting all at once, right? Because Israel is trying to achieve the greater Israel project. They're trying to control the Middle East. So it needs America and Iran to destroy each other. Right now, they're targeting they're starting to target uh Iran's critical civil infrastructure, including desalination plants, including power plants. In fact, Donald Trump has threatened to blow up every single power plant in Iran if he's losing this war. Um recently, I I think I think I think yesterday really, the Americans blew up a a civilian bridge. Okay. So, as this war escalates, the Americans are going to blow up every single piece of critical civil infrastructure in Iran, including bridges, power plants, reservoirs, the disaster plants. So, that's going to take, you know, a few years for Iran to recover. So, Iran's not going to be a threat to Israel in the long term. Okay? America will send in ground troops into Iran at some point to win this war and it'll be a quackmire for the Americans. They might send 100,000. They might send a half million. Who knows? But regardless of how many they send in, they're still going to lose the war because um Iran is much too big and the Iranians are much much more much too determined, right? So be like another Vietnam in which case Americans are forced out of the Middle East and Sen, the entire American military infrastructure then goes to Israel, right? Israel now becomes the dominant power in the Middle East. So for Israel's from Israel's perspective, you don't even want to win this war. You don't even want to participate in this war. You just want America and Iran to duke it out for as long as possible, >> right? So why use nuclear weapons, right? the United States is if you're Donald Trump, you know, you're you're trying to rebuild America and um you're you don't really care actually what happens in the Middle East. You win this war, great. You lose this war, I I can deal with that. You care more about what happens in America. You care about using the national giraffe. You care about about ICE. You care about uh election tempering in order to consolidate your power in America. That that's the thing about war. War drives political transformation. >> And so Peter Hexev yesterday fired three top military generals. You can do that in a war because they're not obeying you. They're not following their orders. Right? So war is a great mechanism of political transformation and that's what Donald Trump is focused on. Right? So you want to drag this war out as long as possible because that gives you more power. Right? So there was a press conference between um Vladimir Zalinski and Donald Trump and um basically a reporter asked Zilinski um hey when are you going to retire man? You've been president for how long? And Zanski is like well we're in a war so we've suspended the constitution. And Donald Trump was like you can actually do that and like said to him oh yeah you like that don't you? Right. So so he's telegraphing to you his intentions. They're not joking here. Right. So the the longer this war drags on, the the more that America is mired down in the Middle East, the more Donald Trump benefits politically and personally. So why would he use nuclear weapons? Professor Jang, a lot of what you predict is driven by economics. So before we get into your next major prediction, you said money is alchemy used by the elites to enslave us. Sure. >> Why do you think consumerism is the perfection of slavery and why do you see money as alchemy? >> Okay. All right. So, um this is a really complicated question. Okay. So, I want to introduce two philosophers to help us structure our discussion. The first is Emanuel Kant. What Emanuel Kant says is that there's no objective reality. Everything is a creation of our imagination. Right? So he differentiates between nana and phenomena. >> Nomina are the things in themselves. The phenomena are the things to us. And so what we do every day is we participate in reality. We create reality because we filter reality using time and space. So time and space exists to us. Um they are what is called the ego. But time and space don't actually actually exist outside of us. And so that's a really important idea to understand that reality is a hallucination. It's a collective creation. So whatever we imagine real reality it to be reality becomes. Okay. So that's the first idea. Second idea is Plato's cave. So in his book the republic Plato writes about the allegory of the cave. So imagine um a cavern and everyone about a million people are living there. They're all lined up one by one serving at a wall. Okay? And they're chained to this wall and their necks are shackled down. So they can't even move their necks to look around them. They can only stare directly into the wall. And behind them are some people. They okay Plato never clarifies who they are. Doesn't really matter who they are. But what they do is they there's a fire behind them and they take puppets and they reflect these puppets onto the wall. And so we the only thing we can see is the wall, right? So we see these shadows and we think that this is reality itself. Okay? We we know better. You and I know better. But the people inside the cave because they've never been outside. They've never seen sunlight. They don't understand the concept of shadows. So they think these shadows are reality itself. And so what they do is they give names to the shadows. They create stories out of these shadows. They create a religion out of these shadows. So what these shadows are are way to structure and direct and focus our attention. And in our world, that's what money is. Okay? Money is alchemy. It doesn't exist outside of us. It's only because we believe it has value. It has value. So now the question is how did we get to this system? How was this system created? Well, believe it or not, but for the longest time, money was not an issue for people. So for example, uh let's go to the Vikings. If you're a Viking, what you did was you spent most of your time farming or fishing, but now and then you you and your mates got together and you go and raided a Irish village or an English village for fun. Okay. Um and you would target monasteries because in monasteries there was a lot of gold. >> Um um they would uh print books and then the uh book covers would have a lot of gold, especially Bibles. And then they would take this gold and maybe sell it. They might capture some slaves and then they would sell it to the Ottomans or the Bison teams, whoever. Okay? And so they would make a lot of money in these raids. The moment they got back home, they spent all this money on a feast for the community. And that's like literally how people spent their money. They didn't save it because there was no point. Right. >> Right. What like like I mean you could save your money by digging a hole and putting all the gold in the ground, but like that's but why would you do that? That was that that was pointless. What you cared about was your reputation among your peers. What you cared about is was a community. What you cared about was leaving a legacy, a memory. And so the memory was not um money. The memory was the stories. And that's why they went and raided these Irish villages and these British v villages. Not because they want the gold. The gold was useful. But what what was more useful to them was the stories that they could tell their friends about how they went over and killed a lot of people and did all that did all all these amazing things. That's what their social currency was, right? What they want to do was like sit in their long houses in the cold of winter and there's a fire and they would tell each other these stories of, you know, this great hero who went to Iceland and founded the colony there and then he died for some for some silly reason. Okay. But they had all these great stories and we still have them today. The the the um sagas, right? The north sagas. And and you know they're wonderful stories and that's how most people live their lives in human history. This changed at a very particular time in human history. The year is 1694. Okay. 1694. The reason why is the bank of England was chartered in uh England at this time. 1688 is something called the glorious revolution. So think of the glorious revolution as a marriage between two protestant uh empires, the British and the Dutch Republic. And at this time in history, the Dutch Republic were the wealthiest people in the world because they control the spice trade in the Far East. So their ships went to the far east, collected spice and then um um sold it through throughout Europe. And spice at the time in history was the most valuable commodity in the world because it made your food taste better, right? You couldn't actually use gold, but you could use spices. So spices were the most valuable commodity in the world, especially from Far East. Cinnamon, nutmeg, peppercorn, these things. The problem with the Dutch Republic is that it was inland. And so the Holic Empire, the Catholic Church, uh the the Spanish would come and conquer you, right? So there this there's real anxiety where they were generating so much wealth, but they had to protect this wealth. So they decided like the best place to put your wealth was an island somewhere that no one can invade. That was of course England. So you have this marriage between England and the Dutch Republic. And now the question then is okay you have all this wealth generated by the Dutch but how do you use it? How do you store it? How do you um make more wealth creation? Okay. And wait sorry um I missed a very important point. >> Before no one cared about wealth creation. >> There was no point. But suddenly the Dutch cared about wealth creation. The reason why is they were covenants. Okay. So before the Protestant reformation um everyone was a Catholic in Europe and they believe that if I if I do good works if I obey the church I would go to heaven. So it's called just justification by works. If I just obey the Catholic church I could go to heaven. But over time the Catholic Church start to abuse this privilege. It became very corrupt. It started to sell um privileges to people. You know, if you were like a terrible, terrible aristocrat, uh, you committed all sorts of sins, but you had a lot of money, the Catholic Church will be think, "Oh, that's fine. We'll we'll forgive you." >> And that's indulgences. >> Exactly. The word is indulgence. That that is correct. And the idea of indulgences is that you don't go to hell, you go to purgatory, and then you go then you go to heaven. Because technically, you know, if you've done all this evil in the world, we should go to hell. Okay. But if you paid the Catholic Church enough money, the indulgence, then um uh you could go to purgatory and shorten your stay there. And um in order to build these monumental churches like St. Peter's Basil Basilica, the church was selling indulgences just left and right to anyone. Okay, so it's this massive corruption scam. And so obviously a lot of people would be very angry at this. And so people like uh Martin Luther and John Calvin, they started to question the authority of the church. And their main dispute, theological dispute is you shouldn't be able to go to heaven just because you have money or because you bribe the priest. You should go to heaven because you have faith. But then the question then is like how do you prove you have faith? And so John Calvin proposed the idea of um double predestination. And the idea of double predestination is that at the beginning of time, okay, before God created anything, he determined who we go to heaven and who go to hell. That's double predestination. So it didn't really matter if you obey the Catholic Church. It really didn't the Catholic Church had no authority over you. So just ignore it and focus on your own eternal salvation. Right? But then the question is like okay then how do you know that you're one of the elect? Well because you're successful in life because of your wealth. So the more wealth you generate the more you know that God favors you. But it was important not to spend this wealth because then you show you are lustful, you are sinful, right? So this creates a very complex psychology where you are anxious to make as much money as possible but you can't spend any of it because you don't want to show that you are sinful >> and this is what led to the modern financial system right because now the Dutch Republic everyone's putting the money in the bank and so the Dutch Republic can now take this wealth and then invest it in other places okay and this is what leads to capitalism and why is wealth specifically like a sign that you're favored by God, right? So, um the question is how do you prove you're one of the elect to yourself as well as to others >> and the and the answer is through your success because at this time in history people everyone believes in God and everyone believes that God is a source of your luck. >> Right. >> Right. So if you have a good life, it means because you've been a pious person and God favors you. If you became a very wealthy person, that also shows you that God favors you, right? So wealth is the clearest indicator that to the community that you're a good person, right? Because before it was about storytelling, like how good of a storyteller were you? Now it's about wealth crequation. How good of a businessman are you? Right. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense to me. I think it's the concept of like resourcefulness because the claim is that people throughout history didn't value money but they always thought that having resources was a sign that you were favored by the gods. That's right. Okay. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Okay. >> And they defined resources differently in different times. >> Right. >> Right. So, um the Dutch Republic has all this wealth. It can't spend it. But if it just leaves in a bank all this gold, the Spanish are going to come and steal it. Okay. So they transfer all this gold to England which has a royal navy and which can protect this gold. Okay. But now the question then is how do you ensure that this gold creates more wealth because it's important to create wealth to show you are part of the elect right. So in 1694 they created something called the bank of England. And the idea of the bank of England is very simple. This be a private bank. Okay? Meaning like if you put this gold into this bank, it's your gold. It's private because you you have to prove to yourself and to God that you are wealthy, right? And and the deal is this. Parliament, the nation state would borrow this money from you in order to finance wars because before the relationship was um wars at the time was fought by by mercenaries. So you you need a lot of gold, you need a lot of like um capital. And so kings would borrow money from merchants usually. The problem is that the king could die, the king could lose the war, or the king could just be like, I don't need to pay you back because I'm the king and you're not, right? So there's a real risk uh when you lend money to the king. But now that you lend money to parliament, now it's safe because every person in a country is obligated to pay back the debt. Uh regardless of how poor this nation becomes as long as the nation state is still standing, as long as parliament has authority, parliament must pay you back. Okay? So the idea is the bank of England has all this private wealth and now it lends this money what we call money printing to parliament in order for parliament to finance public works projects, finance wars, finance everything. Okay? And this led to the creation of the British Empire. The problem with this is now Parliament needs to expand this wealth. And how do you do that? Well, you conquer other territories, right? You go start wars and this is what led to the expansion of the British Empire. This is what led to the colonization of um India. This is what led to um um the open wars in China where Britain uh forced drugs upon the Chinese population because you're constantly looking for new markets in order to extract wealth and and and this is what creates the idea of transnational capital. Okay. Um the first principle is the creation of wealth for the for the purpose of wealth creation. Okay, no other ends. It's not to make a better society. It's not to make a better world. It's not to improve the life of humanity. It's just wealth creation and that's all and that's all they care about. And that's number one. Number two is it's transnational meaning what they care most about is the liquid movement of capital around the world. So wherever there's an opportunity, they want to move that capital. So an example of course is America's guilded age when America was rapidly industrializing and so the city of London uh the Bank of England um shifted a lot of transational capital to America. The problem with America though is Americans hated uh the British at this time and they hated transational capital because they saw transational capital as a source of all evil. So what they did which was which was very clever is they had agents um that they handpicked in order to um promote transential capital in America and these people all called Johnny Rockefeller Andrew Carnegie Commodore Vanderbilt that's how they became very wealthy right because think about think about this how Johnny Rockefeller came from nothing and before he died he monopolized the entire oil industry in America. How did he do that? Like just do the math. It's impossible to like monopolize an entire nation's oil. You can monopolize maybe Ohio or Florida. Sure, I can understand that. But when you monopolize the entire nation of America, that's ridiculous. Okay. And so I think the best logical explanation is that transnational capital see like recognized his potential and backed him and gave him the financing to buy all his competitors which makes the most logical sense right. Um so so that's what transational capital does. It's only interested in wealth creation. It moves capital around from place to place. Has actually no loyalty to nation and it believes in open borders. It believes in uh it it sees religion as a threat. It sees monarchies as a threat. And most people don't appreciate this but transational capital also financed the creation of Marxism. >> Okay. In two aspects. The first aspect is if you go and look at the life of Karl Marx, he was being um bankrolled by Frederick Engles. Frederick Angel's father was an industrialist. So this is transnational capital. And why would they finance Karl Marx? And Karl Mar spent most of his life in Britain. Right? So that's the first example. Second example is if you look at the Bolsheviks, this was a extreme French political party in Russia that no one liked. Everyone thought these people are crazy. They're fanatics. But they had access to transnational capital. They were financed by Wall Street. And so during the revolution um transnational capital was bankrolling them so that they could hire mercenaries to fight the war. They could bribe foreign governments not to intervene. They could pay off um generals of the white armies and that's how they won the war with the help of um transnational capital. So um this economy between capitalism and communism it's it's all a false dialectic. It's meant to deceive you. Ultimately what transational capital is interested in is in seeking better investment opportunities and bullshum made Russia a better investment opportunity for transational capital. Right? Because be because before you had the zar and you had the orthodox church and both were opposed to transational capital. They saw as the antichrist system. They still call it the antichrist system. Um >> are you saying that communism was created by capitalist? >> Yes. in order to um um pave the way for the infiltration of trans national capital into the world, >> right? Because who opposes money? Well, the king opposes transational capital because he doesn't want his the national sovereignty to be uh destroyed, right? Kings oppose trans national capital. Who else opposes trans national capital? Religious people, right? because you see money as a source of all evil. Like guys, let's not focus on making money. Let's just focus on uh praying to God, on being good people, >> right? So with communism, communism is for it's considered like the apex of the enlightenment because it puts reason above everything else. It puts it puts reason above God, country and king and no other philosophy did that before. Right. So communism was crucial to the de development and conquest of transnational capital. >> Was it a controlled opposition for them pretty much? >> Um so >> like it was made to be an enemy. So people promoted capitalism which in turn promotes transnational capital. >> Right. Okay. So what we what we need to understand is for transational capital to win it need to create an entire worldview an entire religion or entire philosophy uh so that it can infiltrate your mind right because again throughout most of human of human history we didn't care about money we care about the community we cared about our status in the community so what transial capital did was not not not only did it sponsor um Marxism but also sponsored other movements as well that were key to creating the world that we live in. Okay. So one person that they sponsored was John Lock who uh proposed that private property is an intrinsic right given to you by God and and this was new at this time. >> At this time in history people were pious and they didn't really care about private property. They cared about um their faith. They cared about their community. They cared about the relationship with God. Now John Lock is saying that private property is something given to you by God and therefore it is protected by God. Another idea idea he he promoted was something called impericism which is to say you can only know things that you experience. And this is again a radically different concept from religion which is you should feel God in you. And there are these spirits, holy spirits around you. And John's saying, "No, no, no, no, guys. You're just hallucinating. You're delusional. It's things only exist if you can experience them yourself. You can't just imagine things. You just can't believe these things. You have to be able to see these things, right? And this gives us um David Hume who who promoted the idea of skepticism, which is to say, you know what, even things you see may not be true." Okay? uh you have to be skeptical about everything you believe because a lot of things you believe may just be a product of custom and memorization as opposed to um um reality itself. So he he gives an example of let's just say you've seen 10,000 white swans. Now you can induce the idea of induction that all swans are white. >> But is that really true? Well, it's not true because there are black swans. Not that many, but there are. which which is to say that all knowledge is based on induction, right? Because there it's impossible for you to see all swans. If you've seen 10,000 swans and they're all white, you have to believe that all swans are white. But that's not true, right? Which which is to say that your inductive ability is very limited. So so so David Hume is questioning the very project of philosophy. He's questioning the very project of um enlightenment and um science. Okay. So that's then you have Jeremy Bentham who and his idea is this you have um you you can only know things that you experience and even these things you experience you cannot know to be true. So you can't actually appeal to universal principles. So what's the solution to to this crisis? Utility. If it's useful to you, it must be good. What? What is useful? It gives you pleasure. It must be good. How do you know? How do you know money creation is good? Because money creation, you can buy things and buying these things gives you pleasure. Therefore, you know it's good. And then from Jeremy Bentham, you have John Sut Mill, his proteége. And then John Stewart Mill takes this idea of utilitarianism and applies it to all society which is to say that how can we judge whether or not social policy is good or not because it's useful because it appeals to our sense of pleasure. Therefore feminism is good because it brings women into society. Therefore, liberalism is good because it empowers the individual and all these ideas together then form a framework for modern society. Right? But again what's important is these ideas are are an outgrowth of transnational capital and its uh demand to control reality itself, our perception of reality itself by making the world more materialistic by by making money the main organizing principle of reality whereas before it might have been God or love or family or community. Do you think people in the west are more free today than slaves were? >> Yeah. So what I've argued before is that if you take the principle um of empiricism, skepticism and utilitarianism to its logical extreme, you end up with consumerism. And I've argued before that consumerism is the perfection of slavery. Because what makes this free um and I'm going to get a bit wonky here, okay? Or a bit um um it might confuse you. So feel free to interrupt. Feel free feel free to ask me any clarifying questions. But what makes us free is our connection to the divine. Because once you recognize that our ego is an illusion, time and space is an illusion. And what we are are psychic beings that are interdimensional, that are unified with the universal consciousness that have access to God. Then what you recognize is this. Death does not matter. Death is a release. Our souls can escape our husk and return to the divine. And we are only here to experience the world for what it is, which is a material world. But at the end of the but at the end of the day, this material existence is just a small speck of our entire consciousness or of our entire existence of our soul. So don't be so focused on material acquisition in this world because once you leave it, you can't take it with you. But what you can take with you are memories, experiences that shine a light on the universe. We're here to shine a light on the universe by doing things by engaging activities that are not available to the divine consciousness. And one example is to fall in love with someone. Yeah, you can't do that up there because we're all one. We're all one being. We're all unified. But here because we are trapped in our husk our bodies and there's a divine light that shines in us we our divine light as aspires to return to the divine and the body traps us with these animal instincts. Right? So the body wants sex, it wants money. It wants pleasure. But the divine spark wants unity. It wants coherence. It wants creativity, imagination. Okay, so these are two two competing forces within us and we're trapped in this body and we believe that this body is who we are. So how can we actually ignite that spark in us and connect more with the divine consciousness? And the answer is by finding another spark and finding connection with that spark and then together you affect each other's light and then you grow and grow and that opens your mind and connects you to the divine consciousness while simultaneously you're still living your life. That's why love is love is important, right? And and Dante talks about this in the divine comedy where love is about generosity. It's about kindness. It's about uh forgiving. So find someone you love and just love that person for the rest of your life. And that's how you can truly be be human. >> And that's the path to enlightenment. That's a path to um freedom. But but without that, without belief in God, without love, we're always trapped inside ourselves. And we try to escape this trap by indulging in material pleasures which actually increases the strength of our prison. Freedom is the belief that you are both nothing and everything. Freedom is the belief that love conquers all. Love will set you free. That's what freedom is. I guess to understand how this relates to I guess the future of where we're going in the world. Do the people making the decisions that are important to kind of unravel history over the next hundred years? Do they believe in the do they live their life based off consumerism off of hoarding wealth or do they live their life off of what you had referenced with prioritizing love? So transential capital is first and foremost focused on wealth creation and that basically means creating more materialism in this world and um so these people are still Calvinist. Um right. So Calvinism is what sparked this intellectual revolution. But over time um this idea of wealth creation becomes an end to itself. Right? Because of the enlightenment before you created wealth in order to be closer to God to prove that God favored you. And then with the enlightenment, with the second revolution, with secularism, um, uh, materialism became an end onto itself, wealth creation be became an end onto itself. And the reason why is as long as people believe in God, there's a check and a balance to off creation, right? because well um we we have to remember that we're creating this wealth to show our faith in God but what matters is our faith in God but that's problematic because maybe other people don't really believe in God right so in China we don't really believe in God um in East Asia we we don't believe in God or or maybe other people believe in different gods or maybe people are not Calvinists so if you really want to expand wealth creation you have to make it a universal idea idea, right? And the way you do that is by making money itself to God. >> The next date I have here for your predictions is 2030. So >> in the year 2030, what does that look like? >> Okay, so we're going through a tumultuous period of systems change which will ultimately lead to systems collapse. Okay, so let me explain to you what the system is today. >> All right, so tential capital is a very important concept, right? But but I I want to show you how it creates this world and structures this world. Okay. All right. So at the very core of our world is the idea of empire. Okay. And the empire of course is Pax Americana. Basically the ability of America's military to project power anywhere in the world, right? Creating the the aura of ine inevitability and invitability. Okay. When we discussed this, right? But that's the basis of everything. Okay? People's fear of the empire. And then the empire allows um this game to be created and these are the financiers. Okay, so this is transational capital basically. But they create the game that we live in because again money is not valuable. Money is just a mechanism to store and extract wealth which is what? Which is our attention, our consciousness. Okay? Because our consciousness is the source of all reality. So if you control and focus a person's consciousness, you can create reality itself. Okay. So money is a mechanism to focus our attention and then extract our attention to store it properly. Okay? And um let let me give you an example. All right? Just say that I ask you to make a vase to sell. While you're making this vase, you're indifferent. You're like, "Whatever, I don't really care." So you listen to music. um you're watching TV as you make this vase. You're not really attentive. >> Well, the vase is going to be pretty ugly, which means you can't sell it for that much, right? But let's just say for the reason you want you want to make the most beautiful vase in the world. You're completely focused on it. You see a purpose and a meaning in creating this vase. May maybe because you're giving it to your mother or your wife or whatever, but you spend days and days just pondering just focused on it. It becomes your life itself. It it creates a sensation in you called flow. Uh which is a concept uh coined by a psychologist named Texi. But it's it's the most creative stage anyone can achieve where you're where you lose a sense of time and space itself where you just focus on the create act of creation so that you become the act of creation itself. Right? So a painter goes through this where you know painter is drawing a picture and um he or she becomes so enamored with this picture that he or she doesn't sleep, doesn't eat, doesn't drink water, doesn't go to the bathroom because he or she's so focused on him. Okay, that's attention. When you do that, whatever you create is going to be valuable, right? And then money is a way to store and extract that value. But what creates this value was your consciousness, was your attention. And that's a really important principle to understand. Okay. All right. So the finance people use money as a mechanism in order to extract and store your attention. And the way they do that is by making money universal which means that everyone has to use it and money can use can be used for anything. Okay, that's the idea of universality. Um and this creates the global economy. Okay, because basically the entire global economy is run on the US dollar. It it's what facilitates trade, right? It's why we go to work. It's why it's how we pay for things, right? So that's that's creat um but you cannot allow people to think this is this is how the system works because then people lose faith in this system, right? If if people understand that money is just a currency no different from monopoly money, then people aren't going to work hard at it. So they needed to create an artifice, a superructure to disguise the fact and give meaning and value to money itself. Okay? You do that by creating something called the rules-based international order. Okay? Or maybe the UN, the World Trade Organization and this becomes the substitute for the financeers who have the real power. Okay? And the financers include Wall Street, state of London, the Federal Reserve, Bank of International Settlements. Okay? It's is this is one group one group of people in different guises. Okay. >> All right. So now you have the rules based international order and then you create uh culture media and education in order to brainwash or indoctrinate people into believing that this is a system this rules based international order that is the basis for reality itself. Okay. As opposed to our imagination. Right. Right. And that's why people are saying, "Oh, Donald Trump went to um invade Iran." That's against international law. He should be tried at at Nerburgg. There should be a Nermberg trial for Donald Trump. That's silly, man. >> I mean, it's the empire that can everything. But people for whatever reason believe there is a rules based international order. If you defy it, the police will come and arrest you and put you on trial. They literally believe that. All right. And and and and but then you ask them like, "Well, then who's going to do that?" They're like, "Well, the United Nations." like okay does the United States have a military that can defeat the American military and but like like they are but it become so it doesn't make much sense but they don't really care it's the it's it's their sense of reality itself okay and because it's been brainwashing to them through popular culture through uh media like New York Times and uh BBC and through the uh education system the universities basically okay and then this creates the um the values and norms right All right. So, this is the superructure of the world. Okay. Does this make sense to you? >> I believe so. Can you summarize it one more time? >> All right. Let's do it again. Okay. All right. So, think of Plato's allego the cave, >> right? >> Where everyone is chained to the floor and they can only stare at front at the wall. Okay? The empire is what changed people to the floor and make them think they were powerless to resist. But then you have people in the background creating the illusion, creating the reality itself with these puppets that are reflected off the fire onto the wall. These are the game masters. These are the financiers. And then um when people look at this wall, they create a reality of it. They play a game of like giving names to the shadows, of pretending there's stories behind uh uh these shadows. And this this is the economy, the global economy, >> right? >> Okay. And then you you have to explain, okay, how does this world work? Well, you can't see the see the people behind you. So you say, well, it comes from God or a spiritual force. Okay? And that's the rules based national order. And then you like, okay, well, you need to indoctrinate children into the system. So you have teachers, you have uh propagandist journalists, you have um priests who teach children to believe the system the m moment they're born. >> Okay. >> And those people believe it too. So >> obviously, >> right? >> Right. Because they can't see behind themselves. If they turn around, they see who's who's really pull pulling the strings, but they can't turn around. So they can only stare in front. So transnational capital is trying to make us or has made us believe that money is God, but I guess what's the I know this is a complex topic, but what's the single most important thing people need to know about money to know that it's fake and something that they can >> Yeah. Okay. Really simple idea. Okay. All right. So there's a bank and people think that bank is a place where they take the deposit of money and they use it to fuel the economy by lending to entrepreneurs. Right? And that's what drives the economy. Okay? But here's the problem though. You're the bank. Depositors put a million dollars into the bank. Okay? You take that million dollars and then you give it to entrepreneurs to open a restaurant. Okay? Right? Question is, how much money is in the bank now? The answer is not zero, which is what math the math says, right? The answer is actually $2 million. And you're like, "Okay, um, that's kind of stupid. Where do we get the system?" Okay, it comes from early banking. It comes from Venice, basically. Okay, so back then they didn't have money. They had gold, >> right? So you put a million dollars of gold into the bank. Now the bank's going to lend this million dollars primary to merchants who engage in trade. Okay? But the problem is that um you don't want to physically give people the gold because it's dangerous. It doesn't really do anything. So what you do is you give them a receipt for the gold, right? So it's like a million dollar receipt for the gold. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. >> So now in your ledger, you have $2 million because that gold didn't go away. But then you also create a receipt for that gold which becomes currency in itself as long as people are willing to believe that this contract has value. And that's how money works. So how does this relate to the concept of I guess what happens in 2030 and why do wars like why are wars so important for the global economy? Okay, so you have the system in place. Okay, and this is the host. Let's just call this a host. Now you need to extract value from this system. And you do that through um three major mechanisms. Okay. U you do it through intelligence, spies basically, you do it through crime, and you do it through science. An example of course is Jeffrey Epstein who was at the epicenter of both intelligence networks, criminal networks as well as science networks, right? And this becomes the parasite system, right? Because like once you create value, you have to extract it, right? And and and so these three things, intelligence, crime, and science is what allows you to extract value from the system. So then the question then is who controls the parasite system? Well, it's going to be transnational capital. Doesn't Does it make sense so far? Okay. The problem with the system is if you are the host and you look at the system, you think this is not really fair, man. Why is it that these guys get to extract rent from everyone else? So, you're like, is it possible to create a new system in which case I'm the one extracting rent and not these guys? Because all I have to do is become the game master, right? Okay. And so this idea called elite overp production and this was u coined by a historian named Peter Turchin and his argument is this eventually societies reach a point where power oifies becomes bureaucratic in which case what's really important is who controls the power as opposed to wealth creation because whoever controls the power is able to use government to extract rent from everyone else. But the problem is you have too many people in the elite and too few position positions of power. So they start to compete against each other for these positions of power. And then your question then is okay well if the people in finance have all the power who's challenging them who wants their power and the answer is the tech sector. Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley wants to be able to replace finance and become the game master of this world. And so what's their main mechanism? Artificial intelligence, right? AI. Because money is God, but so is AI. Because remember, God is the force that focuses and directs your attention. So money can do that but a AI is better because go back to this wall right everyone's with money everyone's staring at the same wall but with AI this wall becomes individualized so you're staring at the at your own individual wall that speaks back to you so that captures your attention even more so your thesis is transnational capital the way they've designed our world is that money is our god And that the only way to beat that system isn't to take all their money. It's to all the money. >> It's replace money with ahi. >> That's right. Because you have to replace God with some with another god. You can't just not have god. >> So where does that lead us in by 2030? >> Okay. So once we understand this, okay, we understand what's going on in the world, which is like at the end of the day, there's a civil war going on. Okay. And I would say there are three ways to conceive of the civil war. Okay. The first way is just to see it as a struggle between the left and the right, which is how most people understand what's going on in America, right? You got this left and right divide. But you go deeper, it becomes one of globalists versus nationalists, right? So globalists are people who believe that the rules based international order, the transatlantic alliance, NATO, United N United Nations, EU are all worth preserving because they allow for elites around the world to congregate and to uh negotiate peaceful settlements. >> But if you're a nationalist, what you say to that is no, that's not true. What this global system allows the elite to do is steal money from the nation and funnel it to themselves. So the globalists are parasites, right? So you have all this corruption around the world. Why? Because the elite can take all this illumin wealth and move it to Hong Kong, move to Dubai, move to New York, move it to London. That's the root of all evil. If if people are not allowed to move money around, then they're stuck taking care of their own people. They're they're stuck rejuvenating their own nation. They're forced to make their own home a better place because they have to live in it. But with transnationalism, with globalism, well, I can screw up my African country as much as I want because I'll be able to move my money, my children, all my assets to London or Dubai. And so there's this huge conf conflict going on between a globalist and a nationalist. Okay. And then if you go deeper, it's also conflict between finance versus uh the tech sector. Okay. Silicon Valley because finance wants to maintain money as a god and the tech sector wants to promote AI as the god. Okay. So this is a way I think you can frame all the conflict in the world. And once we have this framing, we can actually see how things will progress where this where the tech sector is going is trying to replace finance, but finance is like screw you. I've been in power for like hundreds of years. I'm not going to I'm not going to go away peacefully. So, what's going to happen is something called a rupture where nation states divide. Okay? Because this conflict is going to happen within nation states, not across nation states. And whichever nation is able to emerge out of this series of civil wars intact will will prosper. Okay. So 2030 we will see nations at civil war. America is going to be at civil war because Donald Trump represents the nationalists MAGA, right? He represents Silicon Valley, the tech people and he's and he's going to try to implement their vision. But the financial people are not going to go away quietly in the night. would you right? You're going to fight to the end, right? And so you you have this massive civil war break out in America, but not just America, Europe as well. Think about why Donald Trump hates Europe so much because he sees Europe as a source of transnational capital, right? So civil war is going to break out in Europe as well. So what's happening is that uh the EU uh Brussels is completely controlled by transational capital. But who is Donald Trump promoting in Europe? He's promoting Poland, Hungary, Austria. He's promoting like these nationalist parties in Germany, AFTD, uh Vox in Spain, Mary Le Pens party in France. That's where the civil war is going to be. So the grand irony of all this is that Putin and Trump are aligned. They want to move the world towards a more nationalistic um and the globalists are the ones fighting back. Right? >> So it's not a war between America and Russia. It's a war between um the globalists in America who are aligned with the globalist in Europe, the globalist in China, the globalist in Russia versus the nationalists in these countries. You've talked about the three signs that an empire is going to collapse is elite overprouction, financialization, and rat utopia, which is essentially is the concept of quiet quitting, where people feel like they can't get ahead in life. Uh all three of these are happening simultaneously right now in America, uh here and and Europe as well. Do you think we're heading toward a global reset by 2030? >> Right. So, I think that a lot of people among the elite recognize that decline is happening and there's no way around it because of these three reasons, right? Elite o over production, rat utopia. Another word for ratchet utopia is the aging crisis, right? Where you have these old people who just won't give up power. Right. >> Right. And you got people like Chuck Grassley in the Senate. He's 94, I think. >> That's ridiculous. Like what? Like you're n you're like over 90 years old and you're still sitting in the Senate, >> right? >> But um um so you've got these baby boomers who refuse to surrender power which makes the society more oified, >> right? There's no social mobility anymore. So that's the idea of rat utopia. And then you have finanization which is just to make uh America uh which enables the elite to be parasites, right? They do they do nothing. to collect rent from everyone else. That's that's what financialization is. If you open a business in America, your return on average might be 2%. You put your money in a stock market, it's 5%. Who's going to go start a business? But it's it's starting a business that creates wealth, that generates jobs, that makes America strong. Okay? So, so America, the entire world, it suffers from these three issues. And so there's a decline. So, there have been different conceptions um to deal with this. Okay. There's there's there's a concept called manage decline, another called the great reset. Okay, but it's the same idea which is in a time of decline, how do we the elite maintain our privilege and our and our power? And that's an impossibility because there's too much there's too many of you parasites. Okay, only one faction can win out. Um so that I think is the real issue facing the world where the world is in decline, wealth is decreasing and the elite are determined to maintain their power and status and stamp out any counter elites or revolutionaries who want to rest his power away from them. And that's what's happening behind the scenes in most major countries. Would you guess that we'll have a major market crash by 2030? >> I think we'll have a major market crash by the end of this year. I I I I don't think we have to wait till till 2030. Um you've got massive asset inflation all around the economy. You've got a private credit bubble. You've got an AA bubble. Um real estate bubble. I mean, it's just one bubble after another. And so what what transational capital has to do is it needs to destroy a lot of this wealth in order to exert more control over society. Right? And what I mean by that is again remember this is really important. The point of the system is to store and extract wealth by focusing your attention and making you work hard. But if you have a lot of money in the bank, you're not going to work hard. If your dad has a lot of money in the bank, you won't work hard. So, they have to destroy this wealth in order to create more wealth. What do you think America will look like in 2030? You've said Trump is not trying to be president, he's trying to be king. Do you think Trump will be reelected for a third term? I think Trump's going to will get his third term. I if I were to bet good money on it in 2028, I think Trump stays in office. How he will do so, I'm not completely sure of. Okay. And there are different possibilities. It's possible there's a war going on in which case he can suspend the constitution. It's possible that he runs as vice president and his son Don Jr. vice runs as president and then Don abdicates. There's actually nothing in the constitution that prevents people from doing that. What prevents people from doing that is convention, morality, norms, values. Donald Trump doesn't care, right? He's fighting for his existence. He's fighting for his life. Because everyone knows once Donald Trump leaves office, what will happen? The Democrats will use everything that they have to destroy this guy and his entire family for for sure, 100%. Okay. Um, so there are different possibilities, but I think in 2028, Donald Trump will still be president of the United States. In which case the question then is what does he want to accomplish? Well, what he wants to do is this. He wants to transition America away from the global economy. In which case the global economy becomes a parasite on America, right? Because America is the one paying for all the defense. American consumer is the one buying all the products. America is is the one who's financing the entire global economy. So he's like, why are we doing that? Screw that. Right? So what what what he wants to do is uh make America into a North American continental fortress. He wants to absorb Canada, Greenland, Mexico. Um the countries he's talked about that he's pissed off or are what? Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaga, Honduras. That's the entire freaking North America. That's the north that's something called the greater north America which Peter Hexf has talked about and which you know if you go back to 1930s it's part of something called the technocracy movement the technate right and and the grand v the grand vision is you know what if we create this great greater north America we have labor from Mexico we have resources from Canada we are self-sufficient and the rest of the world will beg us for our resources right and then we'll be we'll be very wealthy and you know what This vision is correct. I completely agree with this this vision. I think Donald Trump is correct to try to achieve this vision. The problem is this means destroying the current status quo. This means destroying transational capital. This means upsetting the current elite. So they're going to fight you tooth and nail. For example, Canada. Canada is not a nation state. Canada is a resource colony of the city of London. It's controlled by the Brit by by by the British monarchy. In which case, if America would absorb Canada into greater North America, you're basically declaring war on Britain. Mexico is the same situation, right? What is transnational capital? Transnational capital are the ones financing drug trafficking around the world and money laundering, right? That's a source of trans that's a source of a lot of transational capitalist wealth where during the opium wars. Um the British were selling opium to China and then funneling it through Hong Kong, money laundering through Hong Kong and now they have all these like offshore money laundering operations around the world. Why is Trump investing so much naval power in the Caribbean? because he said that he wants to disrupt the drug trade and everyone's like that's ridiculous. Well, what if it's true? What if that area is a source of a lot of of global drug trade which then um fuels the transnational capital elite. If you destroy that trade, you not only hurt transational capital, but you also hurt the deep state who are opposed to Donald Trump, the CIA, right? But but but again like like they're not stupid. Capital knows exactly what's happening and they're not going to surrender all their power and wealth to this one guy, >> right? This is a dumb question, but you said earlier that you can destroy a data center and like wipe out someone's bank account. If you were a multi-billionaire, do they have data centers and like that technology on various islands theoretically like hidden places, >> right? So again, money is a madeup concept, right? So if you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire? You're a billionaire because you're an agent of different transnational networks. >> So theirs can't be destroyed, >> right? Because because the source of of their wealth is their power, right? and the and the sources of power are these transnational networks >> that support them. Right? So the question is where did Jeffrey Epste get his money? Why is Jeffrey Epste a billionaire? And like honestly no one knows if you just look in his background. Okay. Well, I mean he was making a lot of money as an arms trafficker. um and he made a lot of money when um Robert Maxwell died and it seemed seemed as though he inherited a lot of money from Robert Maxwell and like that's not how money works. You don't inherit the money. You inherit the transational network and so the question then is okay let's just speculate. Okay, and I don't know for sure but what is a potential source of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth? And I if I were to guess I would guess maybe the Shabbat Lubich movement. Okay. Shabbat Louich. Who are these guys? Well, these guys are religious Jews who came from um Eastern Europe, Barus, Ukraine, that area. They immigrated to America in the beginning of the um 20th century. And they own all the real real estate in Brooklyn. They own all the real estate in Brooklyn. Why? because they pull their resources and they believe they have a meant calling to save humanity. So they take their wealth and they store it in real estate. Imagine how much wealth they they generate this past century, right? They they started buying real estate at the beginning of the 20th century in Brooklyn and now they own all of it basically. Now I I don't know if it's all of it, but it's most of it. And then they can use this real estate wealth to do what? Well, they can um promote their agenda in Washington DC. They can find agents like Jeffrey Epste to promote their agenda. Okay. So that's what billionaires are. Billionaires are agents, representatives of different transnational networks. Another point I will make is this. We know for a fact that Lesie Wexner gave power of attorney to Jeffrey Epstein. Right? So the idea is once you have power of attorney, you can do anything you want with this guy. You can actually institution if you want, but you have control over all his finances. And you're like like who does that? Like like like you're billionaire and you're still saying, you know, you don't have any issues, but you sign over poverty to this guy Jeffrey Epstein. And it doesn't make any sense unless you think that they're actually just agents of a transnational network >> and it doesn't matter who the agent is. >> You said uh the greater North America project. Do you think America will become a theocracy by 2030? >> Right. So again, there's a civil war going on and it's about alliances. Um right. All right. So, transational capital is the greatest power right now. And so, you need to form an alliance to counter transational capital in America. An alliance that seems to be forming right now is alliance between the tech sector and Christian nationalism as exemplified by two individuals, Peter Theel and JD Vance. Right? So, Peter Theo is a tech billionaire and he goes around talking about the Antichrist a lot. And there's talk of how you can actually create God through AI. You can make AI sent sentient and then it becomes God Godself. Okay? So, there's perhaps a convergence between Christian nationalism and um AI. Okay. So, think of their vision for the world is this. Think of the Handmaid's Tale but digitized. >> The Henmaid's Tale is a book written by Margaret Atwood and it was made into a TV series and it's set in the future um after America has fought a disastrous civil war and um the population is very low. So what they need to do what they need to do is create as many babies as possible. And so and so what happens is that powerful men are assigned a herum and these handmmaids are basically you know sex slaves to these powerful men who are often in a in a in a military >> right but behind this is the idea of Christian nationalism which is that America should become a theocracy because how do you explain um the system and the answer is because it is God's will because this is this is a system that allows us to most worship ship God. Women should be at home making babies. That's God's role for them. Be fruitful and multiply. That's what it says in the Bible. Go read the Bible. Right? And then what you do is you add a digital component to it where every headmade is given a microchip. And this microchip becomes almost like a um guardian angel or maybe um a soulmate. And this microchip is digital ID, digital currency, digital surveillance, right? At the same time, it's talking to you all the time, giving you comfort, giving you solace in in in in yourself. ChachiBT is doing exactly that where um whatever fantasy you have, Chachi ChachiT just reinforces your fantasy. It doesn't actually negate your fantasy. It just reinforces your fantasy. Right? So that I think is a future that they want. I'm not saying they will achieve it, but what I'm saying is that's the future that they're moving towards. The concept you're talking about leads into what 2045 could look like. Before we get to 2045, uh there's three concepts. I'm curious if you think it's important to talk about these. So, it's America collapses, uh, Russia takes Odessa, uh, NATO collapses, and then there's a conflict between Japan and South Korea. Do you think any of those? Yeah, I mean I mean, it's all aligned together, right? Where it's all part of this larger framework between a globalist and a nationalist because NATO represents a globalist, right? So, how how do you destroy NATO? You force them to fight a war in Russia. They can't possibly win. Right. So, so Europe is militarizing uh reintroduc reintroducing the draft. Uh Germany just announced that if you are between the age of 17 and 45 and you're a man, you cannot leave Germany for more than 3 months without permission. They just announced that I think today. Um so Germany is moving towards a war uh um setting and and they'll probably introduced the draft at some point. Okay. But again, we have to understand this. This is a war between the globalist and the nationalists. The globalists want to maintain power. They're willing to sacrifice any uh anyone in order to maintain power. The nationalists want to assert their national sovereignty. Right? So Putin is clearly on the side of nationalists and the NATO represents the uh the globalists. Um and this conflict is going to spill all around the uh the world. It's going to lead to civil war in America. And the civil war will never stop because Tensor Capital is really powerful. They they'll have resources everywhere around the world. So imagine in 2030 to 2040, okay, these 10 years, how the world is structured. Okay? You have Donald Trump trying to establish the North America uh tank, the greater North America project. Okay? And uh you have Russia establishing something called the third Rome. Okay? that that is their esquetology where they think that Moscow is the third Rome after Rome and Kasanapole and there'll be no fourth Rome right but then you have Pax Judea rising and Pax Judeica is where transnational capital will base a lot of their strength and resources right because think about this where if you're a trillionaire or a billionaire and you're looking for the next great investment opportunity the Middle East is the best place why because the war the war will devastate the entire Middle east and so you will have to rebuild. Um the Middle East is the hub of of all trade in the world. So if you are Russia and you're trying to access Africa, you have to go through Israel, the Lavant, right? And third of all, you have all this oil and what is oil good for? Powering data centers which allows you to build build the AI surveillance state. Okay. So trans capital is like Paka, greater Israel. That's where we want to put our money. >> All right. So um pack transational capital re reassert itself in packs Judeica but it's not going to give up the world it's still going to fight Russia it's still going to fight America right it's still it's still going to exert authority over East Asia right so tational capital is very good at at sto soaking conflict by creating chaos that's how they generate generate their their uh wealth right so but remember like as this is shaping um it's a dynamic situation in that each nation is trying to assert its sovereignty, control over the entire world and that's going to lead to a lot of conflict. But then also we have to remember like um a lot of these nations in Latin America will not enjoy being taken over by the Americans. So you'll have insurgencies funded by Paka National Capital, >> right? Europe is not going to go away. It's it's going to continue to fight Russia. And in a time of nuclear war, there will be no like World War I situation where armies just clash in the night and kill each other. Okay? What it's really about is trying to use uh misinformation, use propaganda, uh use psychological warfare to undermine the domestic elite, >> right? So going back to Europe where there Europe's going to bring out in a civil war between the right and the left, right? The left will support the globalists. the right will want to assert national sovereignty and Europe will become a um proxy area and then East Asia will also be in a similar situation and at the same time the transnational elite will try to undermine both Russia and America by um funding insurgencies by creating civil war. So so it's going to be a very chaotic situation. So do they think that America will collapse by 2030 or roughly like 10 years from now? Um the the goal is for America to collapse because um by collapsing America, you can reset America, right? So once America collapses and all this wealth is destroyed, then it's easier for you to move your capital back into America and buy things on the cheap, right? you can access their because America has has a lot of wealth. So New York, Boston are destroyed. But you know what? America still has water, oil, resources, land. So do you predict that will happen? Um or that's just their interest? I think these people, the elite, are not as smart as they think they are. I think everything's going to blow up in their face. I think transnational capital is in decline. I think their empire is over. I I think transational capital will be dead in 10 years time. So by 2045 uh and this is where it gets interesting. What do you think happens in 2045? I
