[@Area52Investigations] UFO Researcher Details The STRANGEST Alien Encounters - Preston Dennett | DEBRIEFED ep 93

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Duration: 189 min

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Short Summary

This episode features UFO researcher and author Preston Dennit, who has documented hundreds of ET contact cases and personally experienced a fully conscious onboard craft encounter on May 6, 2022. The wide-ranging discussion covers his and others' close encounters, out-of-body experiences, ET healing cases, theories about radiation-damaged humanoid grays, crash retrievals, schoolyard and drive-in theater sightings, mantis-type encounters, military and nuclear whistleblower accounts, levitation phenomena, Bigfoot/cryptid connections, and government cover-up allegations.

Key Quotes

1. "100% they are putting on a very carefully orchestrated, vigorous [music] publicity campaign." (00:00:06)
2. "And the message was they are human. They have a different ancestry. They have damage done through radiation." (00:00:44)
3. "I got a message. It said, "Your niece has just been born."" (00:09:03)
4. "knowledge overcomes fear every time. That's why I do this research. People deserve to know." (02:02:18)
5. "Yeah. I think disclosure is inevitable for one simple reason. It's true. This is all true. You can hide the truth. You can distort it. You can lie about it. You can play around with it, but you can never destroy it. Truth is truth." (02:43:04)

Detailed Summary

Guest Background

Preston Dennit is a UFO researcher, author, and formal interviewer of direct ET contactees who joined the episode to discuss decades of field research, personal encounters, and government cover-up allegations. He has spoken with thousands of people and formally recorded several hundred interviews, and he authored a book compiling 100 cases of healing attributed to extraterrestrials that was reissued because audience members kept submitting similar stories.

• Preston Dennit can be reached at prestonfo@gmail.com and has written other works on contactee cases beyond the healing book.
• The term "UFO investigators disease," coined by Ed Conroy, describes how investigators often begin having anomalous experiences shortly after starting their research.
• Preston rejects Jacques Vallée's "intelligence that wears different masks" hypothesis, concluding instead that the phenomenon involves multiple distinct beings.

Early Encounters and Missing Time

Preston's earliest documented close encounter occurred on July 20, 1992, while driving roughly 6 miles from Woodland Hills to Canoga Park, and a parallel family sighting involved his brother Mark and two friends chasing a classic domed flying saucer for 15 minutes down Rita Boulevard.

• On July 20, 1992, Preston encountered a soft white ball of light slightly larger than a ping-pong ball hovering about a foot from his windshield, followed by missing time with no memory of driving home and only recalling the event roughly four months later.
• Preston's brother Mark and two friends (Phil and Greg) chased a silent domed flying saucer with surrounding lights at treetop level down Rita Boulevard for 15 minutes; both friends later independently confirmed the story.
• After Mark's sighting, a small stick-like object was found palpable under his arm; a MUFON field investigator/doctor urged an X-ray, but Mark refused, and the object later disappeared on its own.

Onboard Craft Experience (May 6, 2022)

On his birthday, May 6, 2022, Preston was pulled through a hole in his bedroom wall and spent time aboard a craft with telepathic entities, describing a roughly 50-foot-wide round room, a tall woman in a snow-white jumpsuit, and a 7-8 foot gray he identifies as the same being contactee Dolly Saffron calls "mama."

• Preston was pulled through a hole in his bedroom wall and hurtled through space for about 30 seconds with a mild electric-shock sensation, which he distinguishes from an out-of-body experience.
• He arrived in a round room approximately 50 feet wide with a row of windows and no archways, encountering a very tall woman in a snow-white jumpsuit with huge blue wraparound eyes, tiny nose and mouth, and tightly curled short blonde hair, who placed her hand on his chest.
• A second figure stood about 10 feet away, 7-8 feet tall, identified as the same gray entity contactee Dolly Saffron calls "mama" from a case Preston investigated and wrote about; other grays on board were roughly 5 feet tall in gray jumpsuits.
• The tall gray communicated telepathically, asking "So, is this what you thought it would be like?" and gave permission to explore the craft.
• Preston looked down at Earth from an estimated 500 miles up, with the planet appearing round rather than a small distant globe; the craft descended from 500 miles to 10 feet above the ground in roughly 1 second.
• He was offered a thick glass tumbler containing about 3 ounces of a light green, translucent, syrupy liquid thicker than water that tasted like kiwi and lime; after a second sip he blacked out and awoke in bed.
• The entity "Ollie" described the liquid as a nutrition-type medicine said to help prevent or treat radiation exposure, which the speakers linked to the grays' own radiation-damaged appearance.
• A separate memory showed a tall white figure turning a wall transparent to reveal the craft was underwater, matching reports from Bob Lazar, Jesus Hofraia (Spain), and the Aztec craft tests.
• Alien symbols were overlaid on the windows like a Google Maps display while looking at Earth, and people in rows near the center of the craft appeared unresponsive or dazed, though one conscious woman appeared Korean.

Out-of-Body Experiences and Monroe Institute

Preston's mother died in 1984 at age 49 from a major heart attack, and her loss drove him to Robert Monroe's techniques for inducing out-of-body experiences, eventually leading to a reunion he describes as "the most amazing reunion you can imagine" after about a year of daily practice.

• Preston's mother died in 1984 at age 49 from a major heart attack; two weeks later he saw her ghost/spirit sitting next to his father in the car at her service.
• He credits Robert Monroe's book "Journeys Out of the Body" with teaching him to induce OBEs; meditating an hour a day led to dream recall doubling, tripling, and quadrupling.
• His first induced OBE involved vibrations like an electric shock that propelled him across the hallway, and after about a year of practice he learned to remain calm.
• He met, hugged, and described the reunion as "the most amazing reunion you can imagine," with his mother appearing young.
• In the OBE state, thoughts instantly manifest as reality; he compared navigating the state to "walking a tight rope of fear," trying to avoid unwanted thoughts.
• The OBE state is the "emotional body," where emotions come in full force and amplify via positive feedback (fear doubles, lust and anger can surge).
• He repeatedly manifested feasts (chicken nuggets, brownies, ice cream, orange juice) but could not get full, invoking the Buddhist/hungry ghost concept for beings unable to satisfy cravings.
• He attended the Monroe Institute's week-long Gateway Process program, after which he reported heightened psychic abilities, including feeling others' emotions and being unable to watch violent movies.
• A precognition example: he visualized a 6-foot-tall bare-chested man in a leather vest whipping his hair in front of a bank teller, and upon driving around the corner saw the exact same person doing the same thing.
• He now teaches others using a two-page guide and identifies four obstacles: fear, skepticism, ignorance, and laziness.

Theory on the Grays

Preston's theory holds that grays are human, share common ancestry with us, but sustained damage from radiation, which he links both to their appearance and to the radiation-exposure medicine reportedly offered onboard craft.

• A "download" vision of a human male rapidly transforming (losing hair, nose and lips damaged, head enlarging) led Preston to interpret that grays are human and share common ancestry with us.
• He believes the entities are humanoid, bipedal beings like us with a more advanced understanding of other dimensions and psychic abilities, and not time travelers, demons, or non-humanoid aliens.
• He investigated paranormal phenomena including ghosts, demons, angels, exorcisms, and levitations, concluding the UFO phenomenon is not demonic, though even alleged demonic personalities exhibit missing time.

Healing Cases

Healing is, according to Preston, the primary reason people are taken on board, and the first thing said to abductees without exception is "Don't be afraid. No harm will come to you."

• Out of hundreds of people interviewed, about 5% describe the ETs as evil; the worst complaint is that exams are occasionally painful.
• A woman was healed of an ovarian/fallopian tube cyst the day before her scheduled operation; the doctor found the cyst gone, fluid, and a laser-like scar.
• Jacques Vallée documented a French medical doctor healed instantly of an Algerian War foot wound and partial paralysis.
• Robert Goode and Deputy McCoy of Damon, Texas, were healed of a baby alligator bite wound.
• Ralph and Judy Bloom reported a Peruvian customs officer cured of rheumatism and myopia by a beam of light.
• A Brazilian girl was healed of cancer, and David Jacobs documented a case of someone cured of diphtheria.
• 10-15% (up to 20%) of healing cases took place in hospital rooms, sometimes with multiple witnesses.
• Eric Dansteel recounted a childhood experience in which he healed another boy in a hospital following an orb encounter.
• Researchers with documented healing cases include John Mack, Barbara Lamb, Ivonne Smith, Edith Fiori, Tim Beckley, Brad Steiger, Michael Hesemann, RD6, Killer Clark, and Bud Hopkins (who privately acknowledged having many).
• A "One in 40" article Preston wrote for the MUFON Journal was followed one year later (1991) by the Roper poll finding 1 in 50; the MUFON Journal editor wrote that Preston had predicted it.
• Preston identified a pattern that those healed were "people doing good work for humanity," naming Reverend Michael Carter (healed of a leg blood clot, awarded by President Clinton for anti-racism work), John Hunter Gray, Jacqu Filelet, and Ray Hernandez.

Government Cover-Up and Disclosure

Preston attributes the UFO cover-up to intelligence agencies, the military-industrial complex, and the energy, banking, insurance, and pharmaceutical industries, and he defines meaningful disclosure as the government showing the Roswell craft and bodies and admitting to the 1952 capital flyover, Malmstrom, and Roswell incidents.

• The Freedom of Information Act does not apply to intelligence and military figures, hampering declassification efforts.
• Defense heads Bray and Moltry publicly stated they knew nothing about Roswell despite evidence including the Bob Jacobs video and Edwards Air Force Base footage that Cooper witnessed being filmed.
• Whistleblowers describe symbols readable on craft and military footage quality up to 8K that has not been disclosed.
• Frank Feshino's book "Shoot Them Down" documents extensive unreleased U.S. military gun camera UFO footage.
• Recent government file releases expand the Lonnie Zamora/Amore case and reveal four other people around the same time as Kenneth Arnold who also recorded disc-shaped objects prior to Roswell.
• Preston's conviction exceeds 50% that a false-flag alien invasion could be staged within his lifetime, citing government fear narrative, militarization, and fear-based media.
• The speaker pushes back on the phrase "in our airspace with impunity," arguing ETs were here first and have not presented danger to aviation.
• The Japanese government is reportedly preparing to release UFO-related information, with contactee Jesse Michaels (also a major chess champion and former head of Feday) in Japan covering the story.

Historical UFO Waves and Crash Retrievals

UFO phenomena are historically documented from ancient India stone carvings through the Middle Ages, with Romans calling them "flying shields," and 1947 marked a major shift coinciding with the atomic age and a wave of onboard contact and abduction cases across the U.S.

• A major wave of UFO sightings including landings and humanoids occurred in France in 1954, the same area and time period that CERN was established; the speaker calls the timing a "huge message."
• The Delphos Canyon UFO wave ran from June 14, 1992 to 1994, and June 14, 1992 was also the date of an environmental summit meeting in Europe.
• The Farmington wave on St. Patrick's Day involved a reported fleet of around 200 saucers near Aztec and coincided with the announced discovery of the artificial radioactive element Californium.
• Debunker Donald Menzel was sent to the Farmington scene and attributed the sightings to drunken St. Patrick's Day witnesses and mylar balloons exploding in the atmosphere.
• Marcel coming forward and journalist Stanton Friedman breaking the story opened the door to crash retrieval research; the speaker believes there are more crash retrievals than the public realizes.
• Identified crash retrievals include Roswell, a Roswell-connected case, Aztec, Paradise Valley, Kingman, Csburg, and a Greeny Mountain Colorado case investigated by Chris O'Brien; someone reportedly died (suicide) in connection with the Greeny Mountain case.
• In 1947, a tiny saucer case in Selinus was scooped up by the Air Force and never heard from again.
• MUFON and New Fork were receiving 10-20 UFO cases a day for years; the speaker estimates the actual reporting rate is closer to 1 in 100, extrapolating to roughly 1,000 UFO cases per day.

Schoolyard UFO Cases

After consulting APRO, MUFON, NICAP, and CUFOS, Preston identified over 100 schoolyard UFO cases (now closer to 200-300), with roughly one-third involving landings or humanoid sightings, about half involving teacher witnesses, and about half occurring at primary/elementary schools.

• The speaker issued a YouTube challenge asking viewers to name any location; viewers submitted over 1,000 locations and the speaker has worked through about 200, finding a UFO case in nearly every one.
• Major UFO waves occur roughly every 3 to 7 years, including the French wave of 1954, a Venezuela wave from October 1954 to January 1955, a November 1957 wave connected to Sputnik, a 1965 wave, Phoenix Lights, Gulf Breeze, Warrenton Virginia, Hudson Valley, and Topanga Canyon.
• Notable schoolyard incidents include the Ariel School in Zimbabwe (entities spoke to children, Emily Trim received warnings about deforestation and technology), Westall in Australia (April 1966), Broad Haven in Wales, and Hillsdale College in Michigan (UFO landed for two hours, witnessed by 87 students, faculty, and police).
• Researcher Raymond Fowler reported 15 UFO cases in April 1966, of which 8 were over schools; the Voronezh sighting in Russia occurred about two weeks before Westall.
• UFC fighter George St. Pierre recently shared the Ariel School story on Instagram after speaking with Paul Trim, Emily Trim's older brother; Emily, who has since died, had reported the entities warning against misuse of technology and deforestation.

Drive-in Theater Cases

Preston ultimately identified 100 drive-in theater UFO cases using sources including the UFO news clipping service, magazines, journals, and the book "Somewhere in the Skies," with multiple cases involving craft flashing their lights over theater screens in front of large audiences.

• Claudia Blasios reported a 1972 incident at the Paramount Drive-in Theater in Southern California where a chrome flying saucer came right down next to the screen; Claudia and her mother completely forgot the incident until hearing a man describe it on the radio years later.
• The 1952 "Terrorist Drive-in" case in Bakersfield, California involved a cigar-shaped UFO flashing its lights over the screen in front of 200-300 people.
• Sheriff Leroy Hatfield received 4 calls, collected 20 testimonies from roughly 100 people who had stayed, and the report was marked "ACTION" in red and sent to Edwards AFB, the commanding general at Wright-Patterson AFB, the head of intelligence in Washington DC, and the commander of an Air Force base in Colorado.
• Pete Davenport documented a Newark drive-in theater case where a craft released smaller craft and flashed its lights back at people flashing their car lights.

Mantis-Type Encounters

A military abductee described praying mantis-type beings sitting on white thrown-like stone chairs in a craft with metal walls and a primitive console, with one being more than twice his 6'2" height who confirmed Roswell and claimed they eat fish and vegetables.

• The mantis beings showed real-looking footage of disasters, declined to discuss politics, and said since humanity started exploding nuclear bombs a countdown clock started.
• The military abductee was a twin whose twin brother also had encounters; he forgot most of the experience until watching a praying mantis show on TV triggered the memory, and predicted disasters including a motorcycle accident did occur.
• A Montreal witness's Doberman woke her at 1:30 AM; she saw an entity with a big head, big eyes, two things hanging from its face described as meat, a separate set of arms, and a carapace on its back.
• After slipping into a dream she woke at 4 AM having lost several hours and called police; she had no prior interest in UFOs and did not discuss the incident for about a decade because she believed she had seen a demon.
• A teacher jogging at 3-4 a.m. in Fallon, Illinois reported seeing a 15-foot praying mantis-like figure at the Kyle Avenue intersection around the time of the 2006 O'Hare Chicago incident.
• A colleague named "Connie" described an entity trying to open a fixed window of her home, looking at her newborn, immobilizing her for 3 minutes, then leaving; she refused to return to the home for two weeks.

Military, Naval, and Nuclear Whistleblowers

The speaker cites approximately 116 individuals/case witnesses who have publicly discussed UFO and nukes incidents, with documented encounters involving submarines, missile sites, underground bases, and reverse-engineered electromagnetic craft.

• Whistleblower Ray Sachs, verified by the host for employment and credentials, reported that in 1971 while serving as an electrician's mate on the surfaced submarine USS Clamagore traveling up the U.S. east coast at about 12 knots, he and three other crew (including Commander Boone) witnessed an unidentified submersible object approach at over 100 knots.
• The object was a large white round light just under the water, 20-30 feet across, totally silent, and paced the submarine for 10-15 minutes before darting off at 80 knots (roughly 80-100 mph); within a quarter mile is considered a near miss at sea.
• During the encounter the submarine's engines went dead in the water and came back on with no visible cause; sonar showed no evidence of the object despite it being meters/feet away.
• The USS Clamagore carried nuclear-tipped torpedoes, which was not publicly known at the time; Commander Boone (now deceased) was accused by the speaker of covering up the USO encounter.
• A subcontractor at Edwards Air Force Base described seeing a perfectly shiny, mirror-like UFO about the size of a small sports car hovering above the ground inside a hangar; his employer later disclosed in the late 1980s that the craft was reverse engineered from ET technology using counterrotating magnetic fields to create an external magnetic field for propulsion.
• Robert Salas wrote "Faded Giant" about the March 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base missile shutdown incident.
• Mel Hansen, a base maintenance supervisor, was underground with his team when stars began disappearing above a missile site; the missile was knocked out sequentially—electric power, then diesel generator backup, then battery backup—which the witness characterized as intentional.
• Mario Woods, a senior staff sergeant and security officer at a nuclear weapons facility, reported an orb "the size of a Walmart" descending over a silo, causing systems to go live; the case involves missing time and claimed ET interaction.
• A source who worked at a seven-story underground base in Alaska was reportedly given sodium pentothal/hypnosis weekly; the base worked on three programs: sensing devices to see through solid objects, biological warfare, and electromagnetic devices reverse engineered from ET craft.

Common Patterns in Contact Experiences

Thomas Bullard was the first researcher to systematically study roughly 300 abduction cases, identifying consistent patterns and coining "the conference" for the message-giving portion, in which entities first address the abductee's personal life before discussing global issues.

• Entities typically tour abductees through an "engine room" demonstrating propulsion via electromagnetics, free energy, anti-gravity, and the planet's magnetic field lines.
• Abductees are taken to an observation deck shown a starfield, then Earth, the Moon, and in multiple cases Saturn.
• Four consistent message themes emerge: opposition to nuclear weapons/proliferation, war and aggression, pollution/environmental destruction, and greed/corruption.
• Entities repeatedly deliver a "we are you, you are us, we are one" message (Preston has heard this exact phrasing roughly half dozen times).
• Entity types include grays, mantids, little blue beings, tall whites, and various humanoids; entities claim to know the locations of all military bases and missiles, and abductees are often placed in the pilot's seat and invited to operate the craft.
• Contact experiences are "absolutely established" as generational, though opportunistic, one-off encounters also occur.
• A Norwegian interviewee described a gray entity entering through her bedroom wall and using a handle-and-cylinder device on her back for 3-5 minutes, after which a blue light outside winked out; Preston uses a 20-question checklist to identify likely contactees, and the Norwegian woman matched none of these markers.
• "Mylabs" are defined as military personnel pretending to abduct people to convince them they are being taken by evil aliens; the speaker claims many cases involve military or intelligence family members and nearby bases, a pattern that emerges when abductees are questioned.

Levitation Cases

The host, who has documented roughly 20 levitation cases and a book on the subject, cites levitation reports from Whitley Strieber, Jacques Vallée, Steven Greer (who said he levitated twice), and Dolly Saffron, with Diana Pulka pursuing a religious lens on the phenomenon.

• Hereward Carrington's finger-levitation experiments used four people around a chair with synchronized breathing, producing subjects "stiff as a board, light as a feather" and recorded weight losses of 47, 53, and 48 pounds across three successive attempts.
• Brazil's greatest medium Carmine Mirabelli allegedly levitated in front of scientists and passed through a solid wall, and Eusapia Palladino is cited as another documented case.
• Robert Monroe reported two personal levitation incidents, including one where he slipped on stairs and floated down; a Native American running tradition describes a man's footsteps becoming lighter and wider until disappearing.
• The host identifies a "floating stage" between ages 5 and 10, with stairs figuring into roughly a dozen documented cases, mostly going downward; St. Francis of Assisi's stigmata is described as a "weird bleedthrough" of such phenomena.
• A Marine who enlisted at 17 with a parent's voucher was stationed at Pendleton and described a roughly 7-foot reptilian officer who stared at him after he was the only Marine who didn't break ranks; the same Marine reported childhood levitation, repeated onboard experiences, experimentation, the killing of his dog, and recurring welding machine failures that led doctors to discover an implant in his body.

Bigfoot, Cryptids, and Interdimensional Beings

The host claims a 100% connection between UFO/alien activity and cryptids like Bigfoot and Yeti, citing approximately 200 cases of people seeing both, and argues that little people, elves, gnomes, and dwarfs are likely interdimensional rather than extraterrestrial.

• A 1978 Canyon Country, California radiologist near the LA National Forest reported a UFO one night and a Bigfoot encounter with alleged telepathic contact the next, followed by a poltergeist outbreak in his home.
• The host personally heard a roar in Acton, roughly 5-10 miles off the highway, lasting approximately 20 seconds with high, low, and seemingly ultrasonic tones (compared to a lion's 5-10 second roar) with no aircraft present.
• Thelma Moss reportedly investigated a contactee whose light bulbs were repeatedly affected and tested them for implosion/explosion.
• Guest Linda Godfrey discussed "dog men" alongside frog men, birdmen, and cat people observed in association with UFO encounters, while the host argued these beings appear in their "primitive Earth forms," suggesting a shared gene pool.
• Whistleblowers Melinda Leslie and Jeremy Weekes reported apparitions of officers and beings on board vessels; Weekes, with a military radar background, received binary digits telepathically and recalled a shorter, furry, dog-man-type being.
• A Colorado witness saw an elf-like being with a big nose, bald head, brown jacket, and boots 4 to 5 times; the elf said they were tied to that location and could not leave, and in a secondhand case an elf reportedly ran through a wall carrying a Matchbox car.
• The host concluded that some Bigfoot are contactees being contacted by ETs, with ETs already studying Earth through soil samples, animal collection, and human genetic sampling.

Other Notable Encounters and Aesthetic Speculation

The host argues that ET aesthetic touches (clothing, cloaks, capes, jumpsuits, the "sports model" craft resembling a Ferrari, and reports of music) imply a full ET culture with art, history, and breeding considerations, and pushes back on characterization of the phenomenon as a threat.

• A student using the pseudonym Shane Kurs was walking to West Morland High School in New York when approached by a strange figure with white thin blonde hair, pale skin, large dark eyes, and unusual clothes who asked odd questions including "what's volleyball" and invited her to see a white car; she turned and he had vanished with no escape route, and approximately three weeks later she saw the same man in a liquor store.
• Collisions or people hitting/running over ETs with vehicles occur in less than 1% of cases; a referenced incident involved Mexican military pilots whose aircraft had UFOs on top and sides, damaging the landing gear.
• A pilot named Carlos, on his first solo flight, was reportedly commandeered by a channeling entity; he had missing time but his fuel tank was full when he landed.
• On November 11, 2025, a witness in Savannah, Georgia stepped into a backyard during a solar storm expecting northern lights and instead saw roughly five UFOs, including a giant semi-transparent triangle with a gridlike pattern of white lights and no noise.
• The speaker claims UFOs/ETs have shown themselves to Senator Russell, Ohio Governor Gilligan, the Mexican president, the Brazilian president, and the president of Kikia.
• The 1948 Aztec, New Mexico saucer incident is noted for featuring a helicopter at the scene, which the host compares to seeing a stealth bomber alongside a flying saucer given the era.
• Many of the whistleblowers the speaker has spoken with are coming forward for disclosure as they age, and most major researchers have similar accounts.