[@joerogan] Joe Rogan Experience #2361 - Graham Linehan

Link: https://youtu.be/03V2ZnXyEDA

Short Summary

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• Most Important Takeaway/Action Item: The transcript reveals the significant personal and professional consequences of taking a stance against the prevailing transgender ideology, especially regarding women's rights and child safeguarding. It underscores the importance of free speech and critical thinking, even when facing social and professional repercussions.

• Executive Summary: This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience features Graham Linehan, a successful comedy writer whose career was derailed after expressing concerns about transgender ideology impacting women's rights. He recounts his experiences with online harassment, professional blacklisting, and legal challenges, highlighting the pervasive fear and ideological conformity that stifle open debate on these sensitive issues. The conversation also touches on the potential dangers of AI, social media, and ideological manipulation.

Key Quotes

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1. "It doesn't get you in one go. You don't suddenly become this bent old man. It it it picks away at you. Things like falling off scooters and and you know what I mean, not getting it fixed. Things like that are what pick away at you." - This quote highlights a perspective on aging and decline as a gradual accumulation of neglected issues.

2. "Well, yeah, we're in soft times make hard people. Oh, there we go. Or probably they mean make hard times rather. Soft people make hard times." - This is an interesting observation on the cyclical nature of societal difficulty and the responsibility that soft societies hold.

3. "You can't make jokes in my situation, you know. It's so weird." - This quote poignantly encapsulates the speaker's current predicament, where his attempts at humor are misinterpreted and weaponized against him.

4. "So, I went on an app called her social which is a lesbian app and I did it to show that men were joining these apps and they weren't they would you know some of them would put on a bit of lipstick but most of them were just they would look like you were me you know." - Reveals Graham Linhan's surprising method of confronting what he considers a problem and the resulting backlash he received.

5. "I just feel like there there's all these there are all these uh tests ahead of humanity right from the things you've just been talking about and all sorts of other things geopolitical and so on. Why are we wasting time concentrating on this imaginary thing? It's not a real problem. It is it is a mass delusion spread by the internet." - Reflects a strong opinion that the focus on the "trans movement" is a distraction from larger, more pressing issues facing humanity.

Detailed Summary

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I. Personal Anecdotes and Lighthearted Beginnings:

• The guest recounts falling off a scooter in Scottsdale, Arizona, resulting in a broken nose and a forehead scar. He jokes about preferring a bar fight story instead, as it would be more befitting of how he feels.
• Joe Rogan suggests the guest gets his septum fixed for improved breathing and cardio.
• They briefly discuss the importance of breathing and a book called "Breathe".
• The guest notes he likes his scar. It makes him "look how I feel internally."
• They discuss the decline that comes with age and how not taking care of things adds up.

II. Diversion: Heroin Addiction

• The guest and Rogan discuss the stories of people who've been functional while using heroin. One was a longshoreman, and another was John Cooper Clark (a British punk poet)

III. Diversion: Bad Jobs

• A video of a woman complaining about work brings up how public people are about their complaints. This makes those complaints political.
• They discuss old jobs like working in dye pits, highlighting the harsh conditions and long-term health effects on workers.
• This leads to the saying, "Hard times make hard people. Hard people make soft times... Soft times make hard people."

IV. Introduction of Guest and Initial Situation:

• The guest, Graham Linehan (comedy writer), is introduced via Adam Eaggan.
• Linehan explains that he had great success in the UK as a comedy writer, but everything was taken away when he started talking about women's rights.
• He laments that he cannot make self-deprecating jokes because they are twisted into "truth."

V. Graham Linehan's Comedy Career:

• Linehan started as a journalism writer.
• Linehan describes his early success writing sketches and sitcoms, including "Father Ted," "The IT Crowd," and "Black Books." These programs were hugely popular in the UK.
• He mentions content fatigue. Too many options for viewers.

VI. The AI Interlude

• They then veer off into a conversation about the rise of AI and view an AI generated short film.
• They talk about the "uncanny valley" feeling from AI generated videos.
• They speculate that AI will allow for generative dialogue in video games and for realistic POV porn using images of real people.
• Rogan brings up the fact that teenage girls experienced higher depression rates in 2007, after the invention of the iPhone.

VII. Linehan's Controversy and "Cancellation":

• Linehan recounts how his career was destroyed after expressing his views on women's rights and gender issues, specifically the inclusion of trans-identified men in women's spaces.
• He claims that any criticism of "men in dresses" is immediately labeled "transphobic," making rational discussion impossible.
• Linehan suggests that the hatred from the COVID interviews was leftover from him interviewing Megan Murphy and Abigail Shrier.

VIII. Arguments Against Current Transgender Ideology:

• He claims the term "trans people" is not a stable category and is being used to mask the reality that many trans-identified men are simply transvestites seeking to enter women's spaces.
• Linehan believes there is a false civil rights movement, and it is actually a male push to undo suffragette gains.
• He uses the historical example of the "urinary leash" (women being restricted due to lack of public restrooms) to illustrate how gender-neutral spaces could lead to women feeling unsafe.
• He argues that members of the "so-called civil rights group" are trying to bring back the "urinary leash".
• When he was getting cancer surgery, he shared a very mild piece that said women deserve rights. Someone replied that he wished his cancer had won.

IX. The Initial Offense and Subsequent Events:

• Linehan's initial offense was sharing a piece by feminist Heather Brunskell-Evans advocating for women's rights.
• A sex offender reported him to the police and sued him, initiating a period of harassment.
• The Guardian reported that Linehan was warned by police for harassing a trans woman.
• Linehan's friends and colleagues abandoned him.
• He was constantly told to apologize. People spread fake screenshots of him apologizing.
• Linehan lost 300,000-400,000 followers on Twitter.

X. Bizarre Alex Jones Connection

• Linehan went on a lesbian app called Her Social to show that men were joining these apps. The men would put down their pronouns as she/her, and if lesbians complained, they were booted off the site.
• Linehan was reported for this, which made him appear to be a pervert.
• Linehan says Alex Jones was interested in the same story. He fooled Alex Jones by pretending to be a woman.

XI. JK Rowling

• It went from him to JK Rowling and they went for "the queen"
• They take down literally the most successful author of human history
• The people who read her books are trying to cancel her. It's very strange.
• There is a forcefully narrative that if you say what's happening, you get really aggressive, and this makes people scared of getting canceled.

XII. Musical Cancellation

• Linehan claims his "Father Ted" musical was canceled due to his views.

XIII. Examples of the New Rules Being Abused:

• Sandy Peggy (a UK nurse) was harassed by a 6'2" rugby player identifying as a woman. She's now in legal trouble for complaining about the male in the women's room.
• There was a supercharged moment after Tumblr banned porn, and all the trans-identified kids came over to Twitter.
• Linehan describes the world as religious. "Religion for secular people."

XIV. Deliberately Obscure Language

• The language of the movement is obscure.
• It was found that most people think you're talking about transidentified females when you're talking about trans women in women's sports.

XV. What happened?

• You see all sorts of bad men know they can walk into a female-only space and at least they might get a payout if someone complains.
• Lovely kids are growing up and boys feel guilty for thinking of women in a sexual way.
• If you create a senseless system with no rules, anyone can be a woman, and it becomes a gold rush.

XVI. Double Standards and Hypocrisy:

• Linehan points out that trans men get the worst of the "trans deal," as they undergo more invasive surgeries and hormone treatments, while men simply need to wear dresses to be considered "trans women."
• They never talk about transmen. Elliot Page is the most famous one.
• When trans men get pregnant they get the cover of time. It's just testosterone.

XVII. Deplorable Things: The WPath Files

• WPath's mission: to be the world leader for trans healthcare and where the whole world gets orders for how to treat trans people.
• WPath briefly tried to make Unuk a gender identity.
• They were linking to a website called the Unic Archives, which is mainly a repository of about 8,000 short stories.
• They're just pornography about people cutting their dicks off. It was also 40% tagged "minor."
• 40% of the Unic Archives (linking to WPath) are tagged "minor"

XVIII. Crazy Doctors

• WPath doctor: "I've only refused a transition diagnosis once, and that's when the patient was having a psychotic episode in my office."
• Linehan says these are the people telling doctors all over the world what the protocols are.

XIX. Other Crazy Things

• Linehan says someone involved in WPath suggested that a baby who fiddles with the buttons on their baby grow is trans.
• Millions of things are going on simultaneously. A lot of bad men have been empowered. Good kids are feeling guilty.
• It's like a gold rush where if you create a completely senseless system, you can get more aggressive.

XX. Armed Trans People

• There is a video of British people holding up posters saying "armed trans people." This is because they are Americanized
• He says it is not trans exclusionary but male exclusionary when women are fighting for women's rights.
• One can easily become a "turf", and there is a pistol saying "shoot turfs."
• People get put in prison for saying what they're thinking.

XXI. Grindr Story

• Trans men are going onto Grinder expecting to be accepted, but they're not.
• Straight men are joining the apps to predate on these women, because some of them haven't been overtaken by testosterone.

XXII. Why All This?

• These kids are the strange and not well-adjusted people. The women are the most emphatic and imaginative. They feel they see men as just gliding through life. Women are treated awfully in porn, so they don't want any of that.
• Testosterone on women has a four times higher chance of heart attacks. They are going to die younger. They're happening in clusters.
• Preventive medication would be a denial because you're denying the existence of people with disabilities.
• The second most shocking story is the one about WPath.

XXIII. The WPath Files: Further Investigation

• A WPath sociologist, Sally Hines, did a study that said that even if there's a risk of deformity to a baby, a transidentified woman should continue taking testosterone.
• WPath shares pedophilic castration pornography, meaning these people are cutting off young men's dicks and sharing the results.

XXIV. Lack of Information

• The public is not informed about these atrocities because the BBC and press are complicit. It's worse than Jimmy Savile.
• The speaker says what people are dealing with is the chain of trust. These doctors go against their own protocols. They're just insane.

XXV. End Goal?

• Is it their goal to just transition anyone? It is.
• There is a satanic panic scandal. People are suddenly believing in the cults that worship the devil and are having sex with children.
• He says there are millions of things going on. A lot of very bad men have been empowered. Good kids are getting bad information.
• There are people like those grifters that said the baby grow. There are so many rules that it's a completely senseless system. Anyone can be a woman if they put on a dress and it's a free-for-all.

XXVI. One Example?

• They are trying to scare women out of fighting for their rights. British police are using Antifa and trans activists to control the women
• It goes against transsexuals and gay people as well, and it's a homophobic movement. You see it with a lesbian with a penis.

XXVII. The Problems Continue

• Trans men get the worst deal. They get double mastectomies and hysterectomies in their 20s and 30s. Every single young woman on testosterone will go into early menopause. Women will want to feed the babies and can't because they removed the breasts.

XXVIII. Grinder Stories

• Grinder is a gay men's dating hookup app. They are going on and trans men aren't being accepted by other gay men.

XXIX. So many problems with so many people

• It attracts kids that I was. The strange, imaginative girls who see men gliding through life. It elevates your sense of confidence. All these kids do these double mastectomies because they saw it in porn.
• Social contagion, nobody wants to believe it. They are diagnosed as autistic. There are groups of six or seven of them, which is too high a number to be natural.
• Elevates your sense of confidence. Eliminates anxiety. More female school shooters.

XXX. No One On a High Level Will Do Something.

• It's purely illogical and the culture that comes with.

XXXI. There Is So Much More

• "WPath files", They were linking to a website called The Unic Archives" They are mainly a repository of castration porn. 40% of it is tagged "minor."

XXXII. Doctors Will Still Say yes.

• "I've only ever refused a transition. She was having a psychotic episode."
• They tried to transition a homeless guy.
• These are crazy people who are listening.

XXXIII. Other Things Happening All The Time

• The Internet will spread it. People spread this disease.
• It's religion for secular people, the consequences for disobeying get you ostracized.

XXXIV. Main Language Movement is Obscure

• Main reason is the language of this movement is deliberately obscure. When talking about trans women in sports, a majority of the people thought they were talking about trans identified females in women's sports.

XXXV. Another Story

• In New Zealand, there was a young girl she was 16 years old. Her parents were first-generation. The government called her trans. Then they gave her a hotel room she started to death in the hotel room!

XXXVI. You See Stories About This Everywhere

• They put the word woman and all the sudden every man has something to hate.

XXXVII. He Has a Website

• "Glitter Update" He has been cataloging these attacks for 8 years.
• "And no one seems to really care that this is happening.
• It can be an attack. You can say, 'No, I'm not.'"

XXXVIII. Problems With Media Today

• "Mainstream media are used to not know things, to be just a chewing gum for information. And most issues it is almost like a virtue signaling, a political ideology instead of a proper description of what the issues are. Also, if your opinions don't follow the rules, people are scared to associate with you"

XXXIX. The Police

• This guy has been attacking police for a long time

XL. Some Words Have Been Erased

• There are many words and groups that no one will write down or use.

XLI. Tech and AI

• Al gore is an expert on nothing
• tech's language is weird

XLII. It Goes All the Way to WPath Files

• "Why is Wpath helping these people? They are actually creating the standards that is causing this chaos in people's lives"

XLIII. A Lesson From History?

• After the press and printing press came along, there was like a century of chaos and everyone said that they just knew the proper way to use the world. Like. People were just guessing

XLIV. More Lessons About Current Politics

• Just start talking about it when a lot of people get told things. You might be a bit confused at certain words"

XLV. How To Change It All?

• They said some horrible things so they did something really weird after

XLVI. The Problems in the Courts

• "They don't want that to hurt people but it already has"

XLVII. What To Learn From It?

• You will talk about it and this has helped and will help many people

XLVIII. What Is His Book About?

• "There is a tough crowd and there are a lot of people and all sorts of people who have a hard time with all the things that are going on"

XLIX. Where Is He Staying at?

• "It is hard to get things out and know the real meaning so he has been transitioning to the place where everything is more true, which is that the media knows the real truths about everything that happened to you "

L. The State of the UK

• You can't say [ __ ] about a location and you have to say good things about the police that have put you through this
• "It is hard to get things to go the way you want it but hopefully someday it is all done."
• People know some police were bad they want to hide, there has to be a lot of things

LI. Things That Can Help People Now

• People just do their job the things that they like and work hard in their job and do it with what they want

LII. About Comedians

• Comedians will do what is good for all the community and just say what is helpful
• All this makes the community say whatever and whenever
• The fact and all this should help the US

LIII. Last Good Tips

• Don't try to hate the people when the people don't try to be bad it really isn't the best way to go through

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