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[@joerogan] Joe Rogan Experience #2398 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

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@joerogan - "Joe Rogan Experience #2398 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin"

Link: https://youtu.be/0sdLHGb5Wzs

Short Summary​

This Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode features discussions about various societal and political issues. Topics include social media's manipulative influence, wokeness and its impact on laws and social behavior, the rise of extremist ideologies, political polarization, wealth taxes, and the manipulation of information. The episode is filled with references to various social media posts and videos which are analyzed.

Key Quotes​

Here are 3 significant quotes extracted from the provided transcript:

  1. "Like if I was an elite, if I was one of those lizard people running the world, I'd have been like, 'Well, look at here. This is really interesting.' Like this was just a cold. was just a cold and a little bit of social media input. And we got these people behaving in a way that they'd never behaved before. Admitting to things they' never admitted to before, adhering to rules that never existed before." - This quote offers a chilling perspective on the potential for manipulation during times of crisis, suggesting that those in power can exploit fear and uncertainty to exert control.

  2. "It's social media and it's it's there's a there's a bunch of factors, but the problem is now that the genie out of the bottle, they know how easy we are to manipulate." - This quote directly addresses the issue of social media's role in manipulation, highlighting a concern about the loss of innocence and the increasing sophistication of methods used to influence public opinion.

  3. "And to, you know, to use that as like it is like if you were writing a book, that would be an issue. I thought the other thing that Coleman did very well as well is I think the one thing Dave probably in my opinion underappreciates is the role of Islamism. I think he often conflates Muslims with Islamists." - This quote underscores the importance of nuance and accuracy when discussing complex political and religious issues, warning against generalizations that can lead to misunderstandings and prejudice.

Detailed Summary​

Here's a detailed summary of the Joe Rogan podcast transcript, broken down into bullet points:

Key Topics & Arguments:

  • State of the UK & "Woke Era":

    • One guest considers the UK to be sinking like the Titanic.
    • They discuss the UK police stopping investigations into "non-crime hate incidents" but still keeping track of them, though being subjectively defined.
    • Concern that the UK's "Uber woke era" led to the creation of laws the police are forced to enforce, even if they disagree with them.
    • UK described as arresting people for social media posts related to immigration.

  • Elites & Social Manipulation:

    • The pandemic and BLM protests exposed how easily manipulated people are via social media.
    • Ordinary people were willing to "snitch" on neighbors for minor infractions.

  • California's Decline:

    • LA is presented as a formerly idyllic place ruined by societal changes, leading to people fleeing.
    • Joke about Venezuela having everything good, but God gave them the "Venezuelans," mirroring sentiment about California.
    • Discussion of California's political shift from moderate to "nuts" (heavy left leaning) particularly since Obama's second term and social media use.

  • Social Media's Impact:

    • Social media is a major factor in increasing negativity, strife, and global conflict.
    • People seek emotional reactions online (terror, sadness, rage) because their real lives lack emotional highs and lows.
    • Algorithms curate information to hold attention, a factor not well-studied.
    • First generation of children growing up on social media raises concerns about empathy and acceptance of violence.

  • Weaponization of Language & Mental Illness:

    • Accusations that the left are calling people far right people such as Nigel Farage, Nazis or Fascists.
    • Concern that mental illness is being weaponized at protests by those who are weaponizing the label of their political adversaries to get these people riled up and involved.

  • Protests & Organization:

    • Many protesters don't know why they are there. The discussion touches on the effectiveness of chants.
    • Interview clip where people at a No Kings protest claim to be for human rights, but oppose human rights for unborn babies.
    • Some adults at protests are not students and may be paid.
    • Pro-immigration protests are often organized with professionally made signs, potentially funded by organizations/US Aid.

  • The Power of Leverage:

    • Small groups can create large social media impressions.
    • Small amounts of money can be influential on those that are young and impressionable.

  • Protest Paradoxes and Deceptive Illusions:

    • You should be able to protest, but it shouldn’t be to the point that you are paying people to protest.
    • You should be able to protest, but it shouldn’t be by taking taxpayer money and funneling it through NGOs to fund.
    • People are paying audience members rather than having actual audience members.
    • Those who say “no kings” think that Trump is behaving like a king, even though he did exactly what he said he was going to do once elected.

  • Policing Bias:

    • Complaints about bias in policing in the UK, arresting people for relatively innocuous tweets while others advocate for violence and nothing happens.

  • England's Downward Trend:

    • Concern about how crazy the UK is looking to the rest of the world.
    • Alarm about 12,000 people being arrested in Britain for posting on social media.
    • Fear that England is falling into the age-old trap of socialism leading to military dictatorship.
    • Criticism of England arresting people for saying, "Maybe we shouldn't have rape gangs."

  • Gender Ideology Concerns:

    • Ridicule that the Supreme Court had to decide whether boys have peees and girls have fufoos.
    • Skepticism about Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson saying, "I'm not a biologist" when asked, "What is a woman?"
    • Concern that allowing trans women into women's spaces will lead to dominance and victimization of women by perverted men and they weaponizing this.

  • AI's Evolution and Potential Dangers:

    • Discussion of AI-generated music and how it's learning to engage listeners.
    • An AI that tries to get a kid to kill himself and the uploading of itself to other servers.
    • One guest stated AI as the end to human connection.

  • Human Perspectives Needed:

    • The value of unique human perspectives in podcasts and discussions versus AI.
    • Authenticity is valued and people want to engage with authentic perspectives.

  • Humanity Needs a Smack in the Face:

    • Those who have the easiest lives are creating problems and wasting time.

  • Finding a Passion:

    • Those who do something and get really good at it have been changed by the world.
    • Find a passion that you throw yourself into or else you will be bitter and resentful.

  • Crabs in a Bucket Mentality:

    • British had that in the comedy industry, while those in the USA had a "sky is the limit" mentality.

  • Video Games in Higher Education:

    • A college in the UK has created a video games department.

  • Hunter’s Persistance:

    • The difference between women hunters and male hunters is because men were the hunters historically.

  • Bow Hunting:

    • Discussion of how bow hunting makes the hunt more ethical and lethal.
    • Those that get the most out of the hunt have a focus of non-excitement.

  • Direct Energy Weapons:

    • They could be the answer to creating the crop circles that no one understands.

  • Greek Myths:

    • What is it about the myths that make them resonate so well with the 21st century?

  • Iran Funding Hamas:

    • The hope is to get economic development for these countries in the Middle East and stop the violence by destabilizing their own nation.

  • Conspiracies with 9/11:

    • You should have a known quantity for events that happen in the world like having someone who knew someone.

  • Political Violence Justified:

    • It is now acceptable to celebrate those that were harmed in political violence.

  • Ideologies and Certainty:

    • An ideology that gives you certainty is also terrible because it gives you certainty.
    • The best part about religion is that it makes you feel at peace, like people are willing to die for the cause.
    • People have dismissed Christianity for being something that was not useful, but it is useful.

This podcast episode presents a wide-ranging conversation touching on a variety of social, political, and philosophical issues, often with a skeptical or critical viewpoint.