[@joerogan] Joe Rogan Experience #2411 - Gavin de Becker

Link: https://youtu.be/u04t4fkBIeM

Short Summary

This Joe Rogan Experience podcast features criminologist Gavin de Becker, who encourages skepticism towards government narratives by discussing historical CIA operations like Project Gladio and questioning the handling of events like COVID-19. They explore topics such as vaccine safety, the influence of pharmaceutical companies, population control efforts, and the importance of questioning authority, ultimately urging listeners to be informed and critical thinkers.

Key Quotes

Here are five direct quotes from the provided transcript that offer valuable insights or present interesting data points:

1. "The lockdowns is as big an event as all the world wars put together. The lockdowns caused a complete lesson in government control that the governments of the world, remember it wasn't just ours, it was almost every country, could do whatever they wanted." - This quote highlights the speaker's strong opinion on the significance of the COVID-19 lockdowns and their potential impact on government power.
2. "Every country has a narrative, right? Ours was when I was growing up and you two, anybody can become president. You know, the government works for us. uh we don't work for the government um and other wonderful myths." - This quote offers a cynical take on national narratives and how they are used to control populations, pointing out the contrast between idealized versions and reality.
3. "So the CDC wants us to declare well these things are pretty safe on a population basis and we are not ever going to come down that autism is a true side effect." - This quote (from the leaked transcripts of an Institute of Medicine study) alleges a predetermined outcome in a study on vaccines and autism, suggesting potential bias and manipulation of scientific research.
4. "We can do that with vaccines... Injections that temporarily reduce male fertility. The COVID vaccine reduces sperm count in men for 3 months. Admitted by Fouchy." - This quote presents a controversial claim that vaccine technology could be used for population control.
5. "Every single war is justified... It depends which narrative you want to choose...We're at war with Russia is what it boils down to, right? Wars now are electronic. And so the US is currently at war with Russia just using the bodies, the meat grinder of the Ukrainians." - This quote offers a grim perspective on the nature of war, suggesting that it is always justified by one narrative or another and that modern warfare involves electronic tactics and proxy conflicts.

Detailed Summary

Here's a detailed summary of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode, presented in bullet points:

Key Topics:

• CIA Operations & Skepticism: Discussion about Project Gladio and other CIA operations, emphasizing the need for public skepticism towards government narratives.
• Propaganda & Information Control: The legality of propaganda use on American citizens (Smith-Mundt Act) and the continuation of Project Mockingbird tactics in the digital age.
• Government Control & COVID Lockdowns: Allegations of government overreach and control during the COVID-19 pandemic, viewing the lockdowns as a bigger event than all World Wars combined.
• COVID Origins & Event 201: Speculation about the intentionality of the pandemic response, mentioning Event 201 as a pre-pandemic simulation focused on controlling information.
• Tyranny as the Natural Order: Argument that tyranny is the historical norm, with freedom being a rare and recent phenomenon.
• Challenging Sacred Cows: AIDS & Vaccines: Questioning established narratives around AIDS (Peter Duesberg's theories) and vaccines, focusing on inconvenient facts often ignored.
• Vaccine Safety & Autism: Discussion regarding vaccines, particularly the claim that vaccines are linked to brain damage.
• Institute of Medicine (IOM) & Debunking: Criticism of the Institute of Medicine, accusing it of being a private organization that helps the government to cover up information that could cause them to have to pay compensation, using the example of Agent Orange.
• Questionable Vaccine Ingredients: A list of several questionable ingredients in vaccine.
• Pharmaceutial Lies and Corruption: Discussing pharmaceutical scandals, including fines and settlements paid by major companies for illegal marketing practices and other offenses.
• Population Control & the Kissinger Report: The 1972 report is revealed and how the U.S. government funded medicalized birth control.
• Zelensky & the War in Ukraine: Deconstructing the American perception of Zelensky and how he was promoted to power by oligarchs and the U.S. government.

Arguments & Information:

• Project Gladio:

  • CIA-funded and operated terrorist incidents in Europe against supposed allies, killing civilians.
  • Done to shift public opinion towards right-leaning governments to counteract communism.
  • Ended in 1990 under George Bush Sr., who denied it.

• Lack of Oversight & Empire:

  • Wars don't end, leading to continued secret operations.
  • Oversight comes from public skepticism.

• Smith-Mundt Act:

  • Legalized the use of propaganda on American citizens.
  • Allows intelligence agencies to lie in the interest of national security.

• Project Mockingbird:

  • CIA used journalists to float ideas within the US.
  • Information is now international, making control harder.

• Government Narrative Control:

  • Every country has a narrative used to control its population (e.g., religion).
  • Governments dislike power centers like the church.

• COVID Lockdowns:

  • Every Western nation put citizens under house arrest.
  • Divides the country and allows for control by government.
  • Government actions were intentional, enabling them to do what they wanted.

• Event 201 (2019):

  • Simulation by Gates Foundation, CIA, Chinese CDC etc, focused on controlling information during a pandemic.
  • Happened before COVID-19.

• COVID Incentives:

  • Incentives came from COVID-19 for people, who manufactured hand sanitizer, instead of perfume sprayers.

• Tyranny as the Norm:

  • History is mostly tyranny; freedom is a small sliver.

• Illusion & Disillusionment:

  • Suffering comes from resisting the loss of illusions about government fairness.

• Peter Duesberg & AIDS:

  • Argued HIV is a weak virus, a symptom of compromised immune systems.
  • Mainstream media had a strong push back.

• ACT Drug:

  • Chemotherapy medication, approved drugs pushed through quickly and was profitable.
  • Killed people quicker than the cancer and gave off symptoms of AIDS.

• Fauci & AIDS:

  • Used a certain definition of AIDS, in Africa and United States used different diagnostic methods.

• House of Numbers Documentary:

  • Argues that AIDS diagnoses were being manipulated.
  • Recommends Brent Leung's documentary but notes that adversaries have created a debunking version.

• HIV & Lifestyle Factors:

  • Early AIDS cases were linked to hardcore drug use.
  • Poppers and antibiotics could have contributed to immune system compromise.

• Vaccines & Autism:

  • Debunked by the Institute of Medicine (a private organization, not a government organization.)
  • Conclusion was "more studies needed"

• Vaccine ingredients:

  • gelatin from boiled pig skin, chicken embryo protein, blood from the hearts of cow fetuses, DNA fragments from human fetuses, oil extracted from shark livers.

• Agent Orange:

  • Toxic dioxin tested on monkeys.
  • Government hid studies.
  • IOM concluded "more studies needed" for years.

• Admiral Zumwalt's Testimony:

  • Government manipulated information on Agent Orange's health effects.
  • Zumwalt ordered the use of Agent Orange, and his son died from it.

• Vaccines can cause brain damage:

  • acknowledged on every package insert for many vaccines.

• The SIDS cover up

  • The IOM doesn't know what causes SIDS, but sure knows what doesn't cause it, like vaccines.

• Johnson and Johnson Baby Powder:

  • Knew about cancer-causing asbestos for 52 years.
  • FDA studied "how much" was okay.

• Gulf War Syndrome:

  • Could have been depleted uranium or shark liver used in vaccines (squaline).

• Tetanus Vaccine:

  • 13 deaths in a decade in the US, all old people.
  • 154 cases in a decade in the US.
  • Can be administered when injury has occured.

• Polio Vaccine:

  • 99% of people who get polio never have symptoms.
  • Very unlikely to get polio.
  • 97% of Polio cases, is vaccine induced.

• Measles:

  • Texas announces 2nd death in a while of a child with measles (2024).
  • 0 deaths for children with Measles in United States (vaccinated and unvaccinated).

• COVID Vaccine & Children:

  • No benefit, might cause death.

• Professional athletes dropping dead:

  • There has been an increase in high-schoolers who drop dead, more than ever before.

• mRNA Vaccine Concerns:

  • Robert Malone and Luc Montagnier opposed its use, particularly in children.

• Joint Decision Making:

  • Between parents and pediatricians for vaccines.

• Old-Timey Vaccines (Historical):

  • Used pus from cows, horses, rabbits, ducks, rats, pigs, and human bile.

• Modern-Day Vaccines (Current):

  • Gelatin, chicken embryo protein, cow fetus blood, human fetus DNA, shark liver oil, worm ovary proteins, monkey kidney DNA, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (linked to infertility), potassium chloride (used in lethal injections), sodium borate (in spermicides), ethyl mercury.

• The need for Mercury:

  • They wanted an ad-juvent that pissed off the body.

• SB40 - Simeon Virus 40:

  • Growing pathogen needs to be in some organic material, so they claim Simeon virus 40 accidentally got into it.

• Vaccine Approval:

  • Once approved, manufacturers resist changes to avoid new FDA approval processes.

• ASIP Committee (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices):

  • A lot of new scientists have been assigned to the FDA.

• Lack of Vaccine Studies:

  • Studies are now done for 5-14 days.

• Negative News on Robert F. Kennedy Jr:

  • They found that some media platforms had upwards of 90% of articles being negative on RFK.

• 1972 Kissinger Report:

  • US official foreign policy was the reduction of population in 12 specific countries.
  • Reduce those countries from needing raw materials, because the US wanted them.

• Population Reduction Motives:

  • Bill Gates believes in limiting the earth to 8 billion people.

• Temporary Male Injections:

  • COVID VACCINE reduces sperm count in men for 3 months.

• The entire population can fit in the state of New York:

  • Over population is not the issue, it's distribution of food.

• Planned Parenthood:

  • Woman who founded planned Parenthood wanted to limit population.

• 2024 Election Predictions:

  • Zelensky declared martial law and ends elections.
  • Supposed to be an election in 2024

• Most wars are justified:

  • Depend which narrative you want to choose from.
  • We are a war with Russia using Ukranians.
  • Modern wars are fought with technology and information.

• George Carlin quote:

  • " I really love people as individuals, but as soon as you get two or more together, I can't stand them."

• Gratitude:

  • The disaster of covid lockdown allowed people to build strong relationships.

• Media corruptions:

  • Were most responsible for the suffereing of the people in CO.
  • Couldn't go to the hospital and hold the hand of their father as they died.

• Monkey Box was a set up

  • People were wanting to be scared like during CO.
  • Empox sounds a little more scary

This summary captures the dense and controversial nature of the discussion. It highlights the speaker's deep skepticism towards government and pharmaceutical narratives, his embrace of counter-narratives, and his call for greater public awareness and critical thinking.