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[@joerogan] Joe Rogan Experience #2421 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

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@joerogan - "Joe Rogan Experience #2421 - Derek, More Plates More Dates"

Link: https://youtu.be/yxpoZNMQcdU

Short Summary​

The Joe Rogan Experience podcast features a discussion with a guest (D) about his new nootropic drink, "Red Gummy Fish," designed to enhance cognitive function and provide a daily boost. They delve into the drink's ingredients, including tyrosine, alpha GPC, caffeine, urodine monophosphate, althenine, and saffron extract, along with their synergistic effects, dosages, and potential benefits for focus, mood, and neuroprotection. The conversation also touches on various health and fitness topics, including caffeine addiction, creatine supplementation, hormone replacement therapy, and extreme body modification practices.

Key Quotes​

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  1. "I think a lot of people when they hear the stuff like you know I heard you can go up to 20 grams of creatine or you know the high the highest impact dose in caffeine literature is you know 3 to six milligrams a kilogram. It's not like I or I imagine Chris is like blindly recommending anybody start there." This emphasizes the importance of nuance when discussing supplements and dosages and cautions against misinterpreting headlines without context.

  2. "One thing that I said about Drius after that fight was like that gap is so wide that's like jumping across the Grand Canyon. You're not going to make it. Like you would have to start you'd have to get a time machine, go back to the time when you're six and start wrestling in Dagistan. Like you you've got to like have those kind of skills to compete with that guy." This quote provides a vivid and brutally honest assessment of the skills gap in MMA.

  3. "It's just what gets accepted and not accepted and what you know what become again like we were talking about the zeitgeist when when a thought gets out there and then it's very difficult to move away from that it's like oh you're affirming your true self like really with with synthetic hormones that didn't exist in your body before. That's that's your true self." This quote delves into the societal complexities surrounding gender identity and hormone therapy, questioning the notion of "true self" in relation to synthetic hormones.

  4. "Social media in general and that not just for famous people just in general is way worse for people that it is good especially Instagram. I think many a person has ruined their life on Twitter. Many a person has said things on Twitter that's tanked their career ruined their life." This is a blunt and strong opinion on the overall negative impacts of social media, suggesting it is more harmful than beneficial, especially for fame.

Detailed Summary​

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Key Topics:

  • Introduction of a New Nootropic Drink (Gorilla Mind): The initial focus is on a new ready-to-drink nootropic beverage created by a guest, D. The drink is flavored "Red Gummy Fish".

  • Ingredients and Benefits of the Nootropic Drink:

    • Tyrosine (dopamine precursor)
    • Alpha GPC (choline source for cognitive function)
    • Caffeine (200mg)
    • Uridine Monophosphate (enhances stimulant sensitivity and has neuroprotective properties)
    • L-Theanine (promotes relaxation and focus when combined with caffeine)
    • Saffron Extract (for mood elevation and anti-anxiety, potentially comparable to SSRIs but with fewer side effects)
    • Huperzine A (acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, prevents acetylcholine breakdown).

  • Development and Formulation Process: D discusses the evolution of the drink from a capsule-based formula, including early experiments as a university student, mixing raw ingredients.

  • Experiences with Nootropics: Discussion of early experiences with nootropics and comparison to products like Neuro1 (from Bill Romanowski).

  • Challenges of Drink Formulation: Achieving good taste, suspending ingredients, avoiding reactions like exploding cans.

  • Sweeteners: Primarily sucralose is used and some discussion of the negative opinions around sucralose.

  • Dangers of Overdoing Dopamine Precursors: A cautionary tale of a dopamine overdose using velvet bean extract (L-Dopa), leading to nausea and incapacitation.

  • Dosage and Sustainable Usage: Balancing efficacy with sustainable, daily use, avoiding "hammer solutions" with overly high caffeine levels.

  • Creatine Discussion: The impact of creatine on performance, sleep deprivation, and appropriate dosage. They caution against starting with high doses of creatine.

  • Steroids and PEDs in Sports/Entertainment:

    • Creatine's past stigma being viewed like steroids.
    • Over-the-counter prohormones in the past and their dangers.
    • Transparency around steroid use among bodybuilders is changing.
    • The impact of social media on portraying unrealistic physiques and expectations.
    • Discussion about testosterone, its effects on prostate growth, women's hormone health.
    • Concerns about some doctors over-prescribing testosterone to women.
    • The use of performance enhancing substances in F1 racing and testing protocols.

  • The Rock: Speculation on potential health problems leading to weight loss and new acting roles.

  • Happy Dad Hard Seltzer Advertisement: A brief commercial break for Happy Dad Hard Seltzer.

  • Formula 1 Racing: Discussion on the final race of the season and use of liquid glycerol.

  • Stem Cell Treatment and Recovery: Joe Rogan discusses his stem cell treatment for an Achilles tendon tear, and post-treatment protocols, including a debate over sauna vs. cold plunge.

  • Hormone Replacement Therapy: The removal of black box warnings on women's HRT products is discussed, with an emphasis on the benefits and misinformation surrounding bio-identical hormones.

  • Social Media and Mental Health:

    • The negative impact of social media on mental health, especially for fame.
    • The conversation talks about setting limits and being selective about engagements on social media platforms.
    • Dangers of comparing oneself to others, especially in image-based industries like bodybuilding.

  • Weight Cutting: A discussion around the impact of weight cutting on the brain.

  • Professional Fighters and Athletic Freaks

    • Gable Steveson and Yoel Romero are used as examples of gifted athletes.
    • Chamav is used as an example of skilled aggression and wrestling.

  • David Benavidez vs Anthony Yard: Highlighting the difference in physique.

  • Gable Steveson: His potential UFC career is discussed. Rogan is very excited about this potential fighter.

  • The state of Social Media

    • Social media and online culture and their impact on current culture.
    • The decline of comedy movie, and the freedom of expression within stand up.

  • Streaming Television

  • Various discussion on Apple TV shows.

  • Comparison of shows and different streaming devices.

  • Jelly Roll's Weight Loss: Praising Jelly Roll's natural weight loss and his impact on mental health.

  • Extremes of Discipline: Discussion of people that have gone through physical extremeness for reasons of health, and sport.

  • Transgenders and Hormone Usage

    • Discussions around transitioning, hormone therapy, and the permanent effects.
    • Social media influence on transgender community.

  • Sasquatch: Discussion around his recovery process, and success.

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