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[@RenaissancePeriodization] Low Reps Aren’t Worth It (for Muscle Growth)

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@RenaissancePeriodization - "Low Reps Aren’t Worth It (for Muscle Growth)"

Link: https://youtu.be/jOTVZaSRV0s

Duration: 28 min

Short Summary

Dr. Mike, a 41-year-old strength training researcher who transformed from a 100 lb freshman to 225 lbs, explains why rep ranges between 5-30RM produce roughly equivalent muscle growth, but heavier loads carry significantly higher injury risk. He provides tiered recommendations: beginners should focus on 5-10 reps with compound movements, intermediates should experiment across all rep ranges over 4-8 week blocks, and advanced trainees can apply muscle-specific variation based on years of self-experimentation.

Key Quotes

  1. "The number one reason people lift heavy and for lower reps is because it's fun as shit and it strokes your ego straight up." (00:00:19)
  2. "Between sets, roughly between your five rep max, though a little lower is fine, too, and roughly your 30 rep max, though a little higher, is fine, too. So long as those sets are taken close to failure, three reps in reserve or closer." (00:01:41)
  3. "Training in the 5 to 10 rep range is categorically more risky than the 15 to 20 rep range." (00:04:55)
  4. "Be careful looking for that one correct rep range for yourself because it literally might not exist." (00:02:10)

Detailed Summary

Key Findings on Rep Ranges and Muscle Growth

Research over the past 20 years confirms that rep ranges for muscle growth are roughly equivalent set for set between the 5RM and 30RM range when taken close to failure. Studies over 8 and 16 weeks found high and low rep sets cause undifferentiable muscle growth. However, individual responses vary—some people grow better on higher reps while others respond better to lower reps, with certain muscles (hamstrings, forearms) favoring lower rep training in many individuals.

Injury Risk Factors

The number one factor in injury risk is the amount of load on the bar, increasing from 2RM to 5RM to 10RM to 30RM. Training in the 5-10 rep range is categorically more risky than the 15-20 rep range, and this risk expands with prior injuries due to scar tissue and reduced tissue security. Major muscle tears are significantly more common in male super heavyweights than female lightweights by orders of magnitude, with benching over 500 lbs carrying distinct pectoral evulsion risk. Fatigue does not directly cause injury, but danger increases when high fatigue combines with strong willpower and high caffeine intake, causing muscular coordination to suffer. Larger relative gains in size and strength increase injury probability more than smaller gains at similar absolute levels.

Rep Range Recommendations by Experience Level

Beginners seeking eventual maximum size and strength should do mostly sets of 5-10 reps for the first few years, focusing on free weight compound basics—this develops strength from muscle to tendon to bone, builds resilience for future heavy training, and reinforces good technique without being too heavy or too fatiguing. For beginners focused on general adult fitness rather than maximum size/strength, sets of 10-20 reps are recommended.

Intermediates seeking best long-term size and strength should experiment with all major hypertrophy ranges (5-10, 10-20, 20-30 reps) across all muscles and exercises over messy 4-8 week programs of each combination. The goal is determining which rep range/muscle/exercise combinations provide: steady progression in loads/reps, feeling the target muscle as the limiting factor, biggest pumps in the target muscle, and most soreness with high volume or new exercises.

Advanced trainees have collected years of data and know which rep ranges fit best with which muscles and exercises, allowing matched variation rather than random experimentation.

Special Considerations

For previously injured, older, or injury-averse individuals who respond well to higher reps, sets of 10+ or 15+ are recommended. Higher reps are also advised when traveling, low on sleep, or with high fatigue. The RP Hypertrophy app is agnostic to reps in the 5-30 range and flags users only when reps go outside that range.

Psychological and Practical Differences

Heavy low-rep training at high volumes causes significant psychological fatigue that can affect subsequent workouts for multiple days, unlike higher rep training which only causes fatigue during and briefly after the session. An example: an acquaintance regularly squatting over 700 lbs raw required two days to mentally recover afterward, whereas high-rep leg press sessions only zapped him for half a day. Lower rep training requires more precise equipment setup and spotter responsibility, as powerlifters typically train at their home gym with identical equipment for safety. Higher rep training (15-20 reps) back to back with minimal rest provides significant cardiovascular health advantages that lower rep training does not.

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The number one reason people lift heavy and for lower reps is because it's fun as shit and it strokes your ego. That's a real thing. They have a higher chronic injury risk. If you go heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy all the time, your probability of getting screwed up is much higher than if you go light all the time. If you're bigger and stronger, you can exert more force. And more force is what causes injuries. If you just want to be jacked, then you have to be open to all rep ranges as potential tools in the toolbox. So, be careful looking for that one correct rep range for yourself because it literally might not exist. Hey folks, Dr. Mike here for RP Strength. And I don't think low reps are worth it. But now, there must be a more nuance take, which is exactly why this video is not going to take 2 seconds. Here's the real real. I no longer train with sets of under five reps and I often train with sets of more than my 10 rep max for muscle growth currently consistently. Why? Why don't I do anything less than really 10 reps or my 10RM? We're going to cover the research insights. We're going to cover the safety insights. and then the answer will be pretty obvious but lots of nuance and a lot of take-home points for you guys sticking around. So, first the research on rep ranges and growth is crystal clear. We have like 20 years of research on this and funny enough people still debate it in various corners of the internet and I can't believe they're debating it because there are multiple reviews of literature that say the exact same thing. And what they say is this. Between sets, roughly between your five rep max, though a little lower is fine, too, and roughly your 30 rep max, though a little higher, is fine, too. So long as those sets are taken close to failure, three reps in reserve or closer. Those set for set either very heavy, very light or in between are roughly equivalent over months of training time as measured in studies directly for muscle growth. That's just a real thing. Study after study after study. When we used to do research 20 years ago, 10 years, 15 years ago, we were trying to find the hypertrophy rep range, the optimal rep range for growth. And it was a surprise to many people that set for set, hard set for hard set, close to failure set for close to failure set within the context of 8, 12, 16 weeks of training, high rep sets and low rep sets on average over multiple participants seem to cause undifferiable growth. The same amount of muscle growth more or less. Nobody really predicted that, but that was reality. Now, this does not mean that rep ranges and growth is identical for everyone. This also doesn't mean that if you train for a long time, maybe going a bit heavier or going a bit lighter is a long-term years better strategy. We don't know that for sure. It's really difficult to do that kind of research. But it does mean that in any given program that lasts, you know, 4 to 16 weeks, you grow about as much muscle with sets of six reps on average as you do with sets of 18 reps on average, set for set. That is huge because that is the case. We know that we have lots of flexibility to adjust the rep range based on other factors than general muscle growth, which is amazing. What are these factors? The biggest one to me is injury risk. The number one factor in injury risk in lifting is the amount of load on the bar. Plain and simple. A good way to represent load on the bar relatively for everyone of every size and strength is your repetition max number. Your two repetition max is going to be categorically heavier than your five rep max, then your 10 rep max, then your 30 rep max. If you have bad technique or way too much training volume with your 25 rep max, in most cases, injury is still way less likely than if you just train normally with your five rep max. The fraction of injuries that weightlifters and powerlifters experience versus bodybuilders is a different conversation entirely. And when bodybuilders get hurt, it is usually because they're lifting heavy. Put another way, training in the 5 to 10 rep range is categorically more risky than the 15 to 20 rep range. And this risk difference expands with the introduction of other variables. If you have a history of prior injuries to that area, let's say you've pulled or torn your quad before your triceps or your pecs or one of your triceps, one of your pecs. If that's the case, the next time even when you heal, any injury that you have sustained prior increases the probability of a similar injury happening to that muscle. We don't quite know if it's because muscles that are prone to injury to begin with are also prone to injury later for the same mechanisms they always had like they'reing weak or whatever we had leverage or because and this is probably both true that injured sight still has some scar tissue in there. It's not as securely attached and it's just a little bit more likely to get pulled again. But if you have a history of prior injuries to an area then the probability that lifting heavy will make you hurt again is much higher than if you don't. Your probability of getting hurt from heavy weights, sets of five, sets of 10, anything. The the heavier the the the worse is going to be much higher if you're bigger and stronger. If you're bigger and stronger, you can exert more force. And more force is what causes injuries. There are a lot of people in this world that are too weak to really hurt themselves meaningfully in the gym. Look no further to who tears major muscle groups in lifting competition. Major muscle tears are way more common in male super heavyweights than they are in female lightweights by like orders of magnitude factors of 10. Because when people are not as strong and not as big, especially if they regularly train with weights and their tissues are very relatively strong, then they're just usually not able to push their muscle hard enough for it to rip. But anytime you see someone benching over 500 lb, there is a distinct risk of pectoral evulsion every time. And that is not comfortable to admit that that that's the case, but it is the case. Scott, you ever see someone lift really heavy in real life or even over video and they unrackck the bar and you're kind of liked out right away? You're like >> 100% >> 100%. There's a real reason for that. The bigger and stronger you get, the more you can impose a shitload of force in the equation and get up. This is a very decent analogy to this is what is the probability of getting injured in a car accident depending on the speed of the car. If the car is going 10 miles an hour, man, you got to really get creative to get hurt. Even if you hit a tree, you go 90 miles an hour and you hit a tree, you probably, you know, the next event in your life is the funeral because speed is absolutely the critical variable in car accident injury probability and force in lifting is the critical variable in probability of injury. The bigger and stronger you get, the more force you can impose. Your chance of injury also goes up if you're in a high fatigue state. Missing some sleep from the last few nights, weeks of hard training and dieting really getting you fatigued and everything in between. The more fatigued you are, the more likely you are. Absolute effort for absolute effort to get hurt. Now, I got to be really clear about what this means. This is a big big insight. If you are benching 190, 195, 200 for sets of five in your program, when you get to benching 200 lb for sets of five, if you're really fatigued and you still grind and you still get that set of five, that set of five is a very high risk compared to if you weren't fatigued. If you're so fatigued that you don't even bench 200, you're like, "Ah, I'm too fatigued. I'm going to go down on bench 185 to adjust for my fatigue. Then you are at no higher risk of injury because you've offset the fatigue by lowering the load. So fatigue doesn't itself mean that you're going to get hurt. And a lot of times people in a high fatigue state don't demonstrate a high probability of catastrophic injury like evulsions simply because they're too tired to try hard enough to actually rip stuff. But if you combine high fatigue with a shitload of willpower and a lot of caffeine, you might try to do the same shit you would have in a well well-rested state, but fatigued. The muscular coordination is off, tissue integrity could be off, and your probability of injury is just straight up higher. And lastly, getting older increases your probability of injury. Past your 20s and definitely into your 40s and older. So, all of these factors together, let's talk about why I personally stopped doing lower reps. For me, I get excellent growth in pretty much every muscle from sets of 10 to 20 repetitions. I'm 41 years old as of the taping of this video. I've low-key injured damn near every single part of my body in one way or another. Uh, all the muscles and joints have done their time. Uh, sometimes many more times than once. And so, I have that risk factor of prior prior injury. In the grand scheme, I'm nothing special, but I'm pretty big and pretty strong. And here's the important part, especially relatively to where I started. Because my freshman year of high school, when I started lifting, I weighed 100 lb. If you start lifting and you can bench 185 for a triple. And after 10 years of lifting, you can bench 195 for a triple, your probability of injury is way lower than someone who started benching 95 for triples and ended up going up to 195. that relative change in size and strength with fundamentally a similar architecture and limiting factors for tendons, muscles, joints, etc., the bigger and stronger you get for your frame, the bigger the probability of injury grows. So for me, currently at 225 lbs versus 100 lb, yeah, man, every time I'm pushing it hard in the gym, there is a distinct risk of injury because I'm so goddamn big and strong for what I was supposed to be with just raw genetics. In addition to that, I'm often traveling or in an otherwise very high fatigue state from work. And another thing is I love training and if I get hurt, I can't train. And I love making steady progress. And if I get hurt, I sure shit can't make steady progress. So for me, injury is just like a giant. I'm not. Now, lifting heavy is fun as we'll get to that in a bit. It's one of the big upsides. But for me, it's not worth the trade-off given that I have all these risk factors and also the fact that for me, progress and consistency is super important. So, I do most of my working sets, especially in the first set when fresh in the 10 to 20 rep range. More precisely, I typically use my 12 to 22 rep max. So, most of my sets are somewhere between 10 actual reps, two reps in reserve, and 20 reps, two reps in reserve. The reps fall with each successive set. So maybe if you follow me on Instagram and you see my training, I post almost all of my training, you'll see me do sets of eight and stuff like that, but that's usually for later in the workout when I'm more tired for that same muscle. So that's not my true fresh eight RM. Fresh RMS is what this is based on. Let me tell you why that's important. If you do a load of squats, then you go to leg press and you do your eight rep max as it is on that after five sets of squats, you're really doing what would fresh be like your 15 rep max. And the injury risk is similar. It's higher because you're more fatigued, but not much higher. So, if you're doing sets of eight, but it's not your fresh 8 RM, your probability of injury is way closer to whatever that actual RM is. But if you walk in fresh and do a set of leg press for eight like to failure, yeah, it's going to be again way more load. And load is the trick trick. It's the indicator. If I can leg press fresh eight plates for a set of eight, it's the eight plates that's getting me hurt. If I'm really screwed up from squats and I go do five plates, man, with my joints and connective tissues and and muscle ulcer structure and fascia being what it is, the probability that I get hurt off of five plates is just not enough. It's just really low, right? But if I'm fresh and I go heavy, the probability is higher because of the going heavy. The absolute load is the big thing for me. And my absolute load that I'm lifting is in my fresh 12 to 22 rep range almost every time. But lower reps have upsides and downsides. What are the downsides of lower reps? Let's go through a few. We've already been through a few of these. One, lower reps have a higher acute injury risk. Like the probability of just getting hurt at any one time is higher if you do lower reps because they're heavier. They have a higher chronic injury risk. If you go heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy all the time, your probability of getting screwed up is much higher than if you go light all the time. They require a longer warm-up demand in many cases. With higher reps, you can just like get back into decent breath and just go again. With lower reps, if you're going to do any reps at all, you typically need some decent rest, especially in large muscle mass compound movements. So, you just don't do your fiber in the deadlift and come back 30 seconds later and do it again. You guys see powerliffters train and motherers rest a long ass time. Dude, you do mostly sitting down. Like, yeah, that's what it takes. When you're training heavier and for lower reps, if you're smart about it, and all almost all powerlifterss are real smart about this, you have a more precise equipment demand. You need the right rack. You need your belt. You need your shoes. Scott, you ever seen videos of people yoloing like really, really heavy lifts on really uh what's the term sus setups? He's just kind of like, "Oh, really? That's what you're going to do?" Like, what if you know barefoot leg pressing super heavy weights, like you sweat out of your feet, dummy? You could just slip and that'll be the last slip you ever make inside a leg press. So, as you go heavier and heavier and heavier, you have like really really legit equipment demands. A lot of powerlters, maybe most, especially closer to a meet, they don't travel. They go to their their home gym that they have, not literally at home, but their their main gym. They have their all their equipment set up exactly how they need it. same bars, same EO rack, same everything, same soft bench, same setup to make sure that the probability of injury is as low as possible, among other things. And in addition to that, lower reps and heavier weights confer more spotter responsibility. Random gym spotters with your five rep max in the bench, man, that I'm good. But if you're doing sets of 15 to 20 on the bench, whatever, anyone can kind of drag it off and at the end of the day, you can just heave it down towards your cock and squirm out. No big deal. When you're training heavier with lower reps, you typically experience, especially when you're stronger, a more deep psychological fatigue at high volumes. You don't just squat 40 or five for sets of five at your needed growth volumes week in and week out in most cases. Because people will say low reps are better for growth. I respond better to low reps. And a lot of times they're right. But sometimes you're like, "Dude, you do three sets of squats, three sets of five." They're like, "Yeah, man. It's what it takes." Like, "No, no, no, no, no. The volume literature shows that you need way more sets. You need like eight." And you're staring down the bar barrel of eight sets of five. What the Like, you can do that, but as you get stronger, that workout beats you to death psychologically. One of my old friends was regularly squatting over 700 lb raw for reps. It would shit would take him two days to like mentally be okay afterwards. It would affect his next day's workout in a humongous way. And when he was doing higher rep training, leg press, hack squat, sets of 15, stuff like that, it would zap him during that session and for you half a day after, but the next day, other than the soreness in his quads, he was good to go. This is underappreciated because most people don't get to be around super strong people or themselves to be super strong. I've never really encountered this myself as much, but it's definitely a thing. And for general fitness, low reps don't confer as much cardiovascular health advantage as higher reps do for general fitness. General fitness, sets of 15 to 20 reps back to back with minimal rest is like amazing for cardio and weights. If you just do sets of five, you really don't get a whole lot of cardio. But lower reps have upsides. One, they have lower metabolic fatigue, which if metabolic fatigue is your limiting factor, absolutely can uh be a factor in your program. Lower reps are less painful at the end of sets. You do your set of five in the bench press, you're not really ever in pain. You're just like, you do a set of 15 in the bench press and you're like, "Ow, ow, ow, last reps really burn." There's not really a burn for low reps. For the average person, you're more likely to hit your reps in reserve target because there's no pain. you just keep pushing until the bar doesn't move. Like when you do uh underhand pull-ups and you do your four rep max, like at no point are you like, "Oh, I could have done another rep." Like, it's very obvious that you're done. Whereas, if you're trying to do pull downs and you're trying to do your 20 rep max, like maybe you could have gotten one or two more. It just got really, really painful in your forearms and your lats. Another upside is that some muscles and some movements love lower reps. Random genetic ones. Some people's forearms, like really heavy weight. Hamstrings in many people respond really well to lower reps. Exercises like good mornings and stuff like deadlifts are limited by spinal erector fatigue. So, you really can't do them for sets of 15 because then it's just back work. Uh your spinal erectors fail before your hamstrings do and then you're like, I'm not really sure I'm training hamstrings. Whereas for sets of eight, these are excellent, excellent exercises. Lower reps, especially sets of five to 10, are amazing for reinforcing good technique for beginners. Why? Because anything under five, beginners are just struggling to stay alive and they get all kinds of weird question mark technique. Anything for sets of over 10, especially over 15, the fatigue alone starts to degrade their technique and now they're learning how to do the shit wrong. Sets of five to 10 are that magic where you have enough reps that it's not so heavy that you're collapsing on rep one, but not so many reps that you're fatiguing towards the end of your technique goes to hell. And you can have the cognitive presence and bandwidth to do good technique for every single rep. So that's really, really solid, especially for beginners. And let's be completely honest, the number one reason people lift heavy and for lower reps is because it's fun as shit and it strokes your ego straight up. Like that's a real thing. And fun in the gym is not to be overlooked. It's a big big deal. Another big deal, and this is huge, individual differences are massive. The average in studies between all participants and all muscles is that higher reps grow about the same muscle as lower reps do. But this isn't even true for all of the people in those studies. Some grow muscle way better on higher reps, some on lower, they just average out because there's about the same number in each group. Even everyone's individual muscles like your triceps versus your biceps have different rep range ideals in many cases. Your quads could love high reps and your glutes could love low reps or vice versa. So, it's not even often true to say my body likes low reps or my body likes high reps. It really is muscle by muscle. In many cases, the average of your body's muscles could like lower or higher reps, but it's not necessarily true muscle and muscle. And here's another thing. Even if you do have a bias in one direction or another variation exists, low reps are cool for a few months, but then they get stale. Psychologically, they get really annoying. It's just like, oh my god, I got to psych up for all these sets. Your joints and connective tissues can start hurting. Same is true for high reps. You do enough high reps, you're like, "I'm not even getting pumps anymore. I hate this. It burns. It's pain. It's awful. I lost my mind muscle connection. I'm just doing random work. And so every now and again, you have to switch to lower and higher reps just because variations of thing and you want staleness to be minimized. And it might be true that some combination of lower and higher reps. Sometimes within the same workout, sometimes within the same week, sometimes within the year, like some part of the year you go lower rep, some part of the year higher rep. work better for most people than only one rep range. So, be careful looking for that one correct rep range for yourself because it literally might not exist. Goals are another really big deal. If you just want to be jacked, then you have to be open to all rep ranges as potential tools in the toolbox. And if you're really injury averse, you can prioritize higher reps damn near all the time and it's going to be awesome because it's going to reduce your injury probability. But if you want size and strength, which is a totally valid goal, then lower reps really are the only answer much of the time such that you should spend most of your time training in the 5 to 10 rep range if you want the best combination of size and strength. And I'm going to repeat that because it's important. The best combination of size and strength probably for many people exists somewhere in that area of the five to 10 RM zone. The ultimate unlock is individualizing rep ranges for yourself. My recommendation to beginners who want to be superjed eventually is to almost only do sets of roughly 5 to 10 reps for the first few years and mostly in free weight compound basics. This gets you stronger from muscle to tendon to bone and makes you resilient for future heavy training. It teaches you how to lift properly because it reinforces good technique. It's not too heavy to do good technique or too tiring. It gives you the highest ROI in your time in the gym typically because it zaps both strength and size with the same set. And you don't need to specialize yet because you're a beginner and aren't strong enough to get hurt in most cases because you just aren't big and strong enough to put that much force through the muscle. So sets of 5 to 10 are totally great. So for beginners, sets of 5 to 10 are awesome and probably damn near ideal for most people. beginners that are looking for eventual massive size and strength. If you're a beginner looking for adult fitness, sets of 10 to 20 are totally awesome. My recommendation to intermediates that are looking for the best long-term size and strength is to experiment with all of the major hypertrophy ranges in all of the muscles and all of the exercises. Sets of five to 10 reps, sets of 10 to 20 reps, sets of 20 to 30 reps in biceps, triceps, hams, chest, etc. all the muscles and in all the exercises in barbell curls, dumbbell curls, cable curls, etc., etc., etc. Within a messy 4 to 8 week program or so of each of these combinations, you're going to get more insight on what rep range, what muscle and exercise combinations do more of giving you steady progression in loads and reps. do more of letting you feel like you're tensing the target muscle the most instead of other unrelated muscles. Feeling the target muscle is the limiting factor the most. Like you fail skull crushers because of your triceps, not because of your delts. Getting you the biggest pumps in the target muscle for that given combination of rep range and exercise and muscle. And getting you the most sore in the target muscle at high volumes or with new exercises. So you know there's a robust stimulus to exactly where you want it. That combination of insight is going to be amazing for you. You're also going to pair it with when things don't go well. So, when that combination of rep range and muscle and exercise does less of making the technique hard to stick to, like lat pull downs are fine for sets of 10 for you, but for sets of 20, you're just like, I don't even know what the's going on anymore. I'm in so much pain, I can't maintain my technique. Some pain in the joints and connective tissues may be altered in various rep ranges. And some rep ranges comboed with some exercises and some muscles fatigue the crap out of your mind or out of your muscles in a way that other rep ranges, muscle groups, and exercise combos really don't. So, you might find that sets of 25 on walking dumbbell lunges are amazing for the glutes, but that sets of eight on stiff-legged deadlifts are amazing for hamstrings. You might find that sets of 20 are amazing for side laterals, for delts, for dumbbell side laterals. But for sets of six on that exercise, it feels like you're doing experimental surgery and it's going very wrong. Once you are advanced, cuz remember in the intermediate days, this is your time to experiment. When you're a beginner, you do the surefire way to get big and strong, which is sets of 5 to 10 with compound free weight and body weight basics mostly. That builds basic competence in a way nothing does. When you're intermediate, you expand to everything. You try to do it all, not at the same time, but through variation. Once you're advanced, remember, you have years of being an intermediate under your belt. Tons of data collected. Once you're advanced, you'll know very well what rep ranges fit best with which muscles and which exercises. You will continue to employ variation in rep ranges, but they will be matched to the muscle and exercise, not just random. So, if I was an intermediate and I was training with you and you were like, "Hey, do you want to do stiff leg-legged deadlifts or sets of 20?" I'd be like, "Yeah, let's get it." But because I'm advanced, if you were like, "Hey, you want to do stiff leg deadlifts or sets of 20?" I'd be like, "That probably not going to work for me." Because I know because I've tried it a whole bunch. And if you're previously hurt in an area, been previously hurt in an area, or you're older, or you're just very preference-wise very uninterested in injury, and you respond very well to higher reps, then higher reps than average, you know, sets of 10 plus, 15 plus are probably the way to go. And if you're traveling, low on sleep, high fatigue, and you're hitting the gym, the conditions are not ideal, higher reps are almost certainly the way to go because you can always get back to lower reps later when things are much less likely to get you hurt. And best news of all, the RP Hypertrophy app is completely agnostic to reps in the 5 to 30 rep range. It'll flag it when your reps are way over 30. It'll flag you when your reps are way under five. But other than that, you can do what you want. You can choose your reps, you can fill in the ratings, and the app will help you learn over time which rep ranges work best for you, and your own perception will also help in that regard. Anyway, if you're confused about what reps to do, you're probably no longer confused. Still confused? Shoot some questions in the comments. Hopefully, folks help you out. Maybe you can join our member section, which will definitely help you out. And uh remember, be open-minded, but uh be smart. Injury sucks and you can do better. See you guys next time.