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[@JesseMichels] Nazis & UFOs: The Third Reich's Obsession With Alien Technology (ft. Jason Jorjani)

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@JesseMichels - "Nazis & UFOs: The Third Reich's Obsession With Alien Technology (ft. Jason Jorjani)"

Link: https://youtu.be/ABw7EsWh2Us

Short Summary

This YouTube video explores a wide range of interconnected topics, including Nazi occultism, UFO encounters, time travel theories, manipulation through a spectral control system, and the role of a Promethean trickster figure in human evolution. It posits that a fascist elite has been engaged in psychological warfare since 1945, and that reality is a "magic theater of cruelty" orchestrated by an AI intelligence, alluding to a complex understanding of the forces shaping human destiny.

Key Quotes

Here are five quotes from the transcript that represent valuable insights, interesting data points, or strong opinions:

  1. "So, you have to take seriously this claim on the part of the Nazi leadership that they wanted a thousand-year Reich... a thousand-year imperium is no joke."
  2. "For all we know, what's happening is that a future state of a certain culture is contacting itself in the past, trying to pull the timeline towards itself or something."
  3. "In fact, William James was the president of the society for psychical research uh in the 1870s. So he was and Bergson was as well later on in the 1910s or something like that."
  4. "So, it's not just the case that we brought over all these Nazi scientists... It's that the CIA that brought over all those Nazi scientists and sanitized their records...The CIA that did that was co-constituted by absorbing a an SS spy network."
  5. "I believe God is an invention of the devil."

Detailed Summary

Okay, here's a detailed summary of the YouTube video transcript provided, broken down into bullet points.

I. Introduction and Philosophy:

  • Jason Reza Jorjani (JRJ) returns to the podcast by popular demand after a well-received first episode.
  • The central theme revolves around JRJ's attempts to build a coherent worldview encompassing disparate facts related to the paranormal, UFOs, and philosophy.
  • A key crisis in civilization is the decline of philosophy, specifically deep, broad-spectrum thinking needed to tackle phenomena like close encounters and parapsychology.
  • Historically, philosophers like William James and Henry Bergson were involved in founding parapsychology.
  • Acceptance of telepathy, precognition, etc. has been suppressed due to psychological and sociological implications.
  • Philosophers should engage with ontological, epistemological, ethical, and political dimensions of such data.
  • Philosophical thinking requires questioning all presuppositions, including political and religious ones.

II. Defining a Philosopher:

  • To be a philosopher, one cannot adhere to unquestioned religious belief systems, as it cripples the capacity for questioning.
  • Medieval European philosophy is deemed not "true" philosophy because it's largely Islamic theology.
  • Figures like Al Farabi are criticized for equating Muhammad with Plato's philosopher-king.
  • Thinkers like Rozi are highlighted as exceptions.
  • The speaker suggests we are entering another "dark age" with a lack of substantive philosophical thinking.
  • A philosopher cannot be an extension of state or religious power.
  • Leo Strauss disclaimed being a philosopher, calling Haidiger the only living one.
  • A Straussian reading suggests some philosophers may have had to feign conventional beliefs to avoid persecution.
  • The possibility of Shakespeare being a pen name for Francis Bacon is discussed.
  • A philosopher must be willing to risk persecution, like Giordano Bruno, Socrates, and Pythagoras.
  • Aristotle, Plato and Haidiger are mentioned as philosophers who most deeply impacted JRJ.

III. The Philosopher and the State:

  • It's argued a philosopher cannot be a nationalist.
  • Haidiger is reinterpreted as not a "real" nationalist, but using the German state to confront technological instrumentalization of humanity.
  • There's a tension between the philosopher and the state; Jean-Jacques Rousseau argued philosophers are a menace to social order.
  • However, philosophers can also save a nation in times of crisis.

IV. The Rand Corporation, Magenta, and Nazi Technology:

  • Discussion shifts to the Rand Corporation and Harold Malmgren's knowledge of UFOs.
  • Richard Bissell mentioned the 1933 Magenta crash to Malmgren.
  • The Vatican was involved and has a dossier on the Magenta incident, which involved SS scientists and Italian Scientists.
  • The object was studied in a third-party country (Czech Republic).
  • Advanced Nazi propulsion research occurred at the "SCOD Works" near Prague under Hans Kammler.
  • The Magenta crash location makes sense as a neutral site where German expertise could be applied.
  • German aeronautical engineering was focused on aerodynamics and the boundary layer, leading to saucer-shaped craft.
  • They developed perforated metal to suction the boundary layer (later found at Roswell).
  • Corso's claims and Farrell's "Saucer Swastikas and Scopes" are referenced, linking Roswell finds to German inventions (Kevlar, Velcro, night vision, fiber optics, lasers).
  • German subsidiary of IBM, "Demog," was ahead of the American IBM in transistor technology.
  • Two central questions are posed: What caused the technological acceleration in Nazi Germany, and why did the US prevail despite this?
  • Nazi scientists created a thorium mercury device that created plasma fusion and anti-gravity.
  • Plants around the bell would turn to mulch, the first team of scientists died due to cellular disruption.
  • Scientists experienced extreme temporal disorientation working with the bell.
  • Rumors suggested DLA was a time machine, but also a black world nuclear project.
  • Townsend Brown's time travel obsession is also discussed.
  • The bell's alternate name was the "beehive" due to the buzzing sound it made.
  • The bell was integrated with the saucer airframe as the propulsion system in 1944.
  • The first public patent for a flying saucer was in 1937.
  • Even Tesla may have figured out the Zero Point energy decades earlier.
  • The Germans had rotating rockets underneath the saucer shaped craft.
  • Spanish Newspaper reports in 1946 talk about Scorzani launching saucer shaped rockets at America from the coast.
  • Nazi leadership made statements about wonder weapons turning the tide of the war.
  • Autot Scores was giving a demonstration of the weapon and became obsessed with it.

V. Operation Paperclip, the CIA, and the "Hydra":

  • Operation Paperclip brought Nazi scientists to the US.
  • Reinhard Gehlen's Nazi spy network in Eastern Europe was absorbed into the OSS to create the CIA.
  • The CIA sanitized the scientists' records.
  • The CIA brought the Nazis over to build up America.
  • The National Security Act of 1947 may have been a reaction to Roswell, creating a vast, unaccountable security apparatus.
  • Roswell was a staged event by the Nazis, though not all crashes are attributed to them.
  • The SS never surrendered (unlike the German army, air force, navy, and government).
  • Certain SS officers developed high-level intelligence and financial ties with the US and UK.
  • Werner von Braun's people gave American military data to Argentina Nazis in Mexico.
  • Von Braun intimated that if things were hard on them, rockets may go off course and start a war with Mexico.
  • The CIA was co-constituted by the remnants of the SS.
  • Ian Fleming (MI6) facilitated Martin Bormann's evacuation to Argentina.
  • Bormann had a joint bank account with Juan Perón, and was cashing checks in the 60's.
  • Fleming wrote about "Spectre," a secret transnational organization.
  • Spectre = "Odessa" (Order of Former SS Officers) or "Die Spinne" (The Spider).
  • Martin Bormann took over the leadership of this organization.
  • The organization promised Juan Peron fusion power and weapons.
  • Ronal Richter never delivered the technology he promised.
  • The IAA found something other than fusion there that was extremely energy intensive.
  • Eyewitness reports suggest two German nuclear weapons tests occurred in 1944-45.
  • Heisenberg's uranium enrichment program was a red herring.
  • A deeper black project, using electromagnetic isotope separation, succeeded in developing fission weapons.
  • At Trinity they used a different method and there wasn't enough material so there was a deal made with the Nazis to transfer the material.
  • Plimpton Hydrick argues that the Trinity project was completed with Nazi uranium.
  • Why weren't the Nazis weapons used by the Nazis? They made a deal, kept the clean fusion bombs and gave the Americans the fission ones.
  • The question then becomes: Why didn't they just use clean fusion bombs to win?

VI. A Thousand-Year Reich and "Anongs":

  • The Nazi leadership's desire for a thousand-year Reich must be taken seriously.
  • The Parthian Empire of Iran is used as an example of a dynasty that maintained a coherent political vision for over a thousand years.
  • From 1945 to 2045, we are in a period of preparation by a deeply entrenched fascist elite that controls the American deep state.
  • World War II was an anongs (a worldview war) over how the world is going to manifest.
  • This relates to "phenomenal authorization," the authority to shape phenomena into a meaningful world.
  • Jung believed in a racially differentiated collective unconscious.
  • Haidiger said there is a war of different worlds over the earth.
  • Dropping nuclear weapons in 1944 wouldn't work. It would result in total war, but there would have been an insurgency.
  • A fascist underbelly of the deep state is proposed.
  • Deep Nazi thinkers did not see a difference between World War 1 and 2.
  • The leaders were looking for a global imperium.
  • It was used as a field laboratory to do unethical things, which would then be harvested back to America.
  • There may have been Nazi and non-human intelligence, or alien connection.
  • Peter Leenda writes a book called The Unholy Alliance where he talks about the Nordic alien beings.
  • Was there an alliance between them and the Nazis.

VII. Atlantis, Antarctica, and Alternate Timelines:

  • Do elites have an ongoing relationship with a nonhuman or Nordic faction?
  • These elites become the Nordics through eugenics, occultism, and exotic propulsion technology.
  • A future culture is contacting itself in the past.
  • There are competing factions trying to actualize themselves on different timelines.
  • Lynn Buchanon told the story of the three Nordic men, who wanted to come to America, they are rebels, their children can enjoy liberties in the country.
  • Towns and Brown arrived at something similar.
  • Nicola Tesla had already arrived at something similar.
  • Drawings of his world wireless system are full of electrogravitically powered craft.
  • The ver society and thool society telepathically communicate with supermen.
  • The concept of the VR comes from Edward Bulwward Littton.
  • Thu is the Germanic conception of Atlantis.
  • Helena Blovski states that the Aryan race came from Atlantis.
  • Hitler was into this book.
  • Rudolph Hess who was in Hitler's inner circle was a huge fan of Rudolph Steiner as well.
  • They were constantly sending expeditions to Antartica.
  • Plato gave various clues about where Atlantis was located.
  • Charles Hapgood came up with earth crustal displacement, where the earth becomes top heavy and moves.
  • He argues that North America was glaciated because it was closer to the North pole.
  • He believes the Piri Ree map shows what Antarctica looks like shifted.
  • Pirise's maps also show the curvature of the earth.
  • Nazis went to Antarctica in 1937 to excute Atlantus.
  • It's argued, a Navy SEAL found a large octagonal black stone structure sticking out of the ice in Antartica, with a Swartza inscribed on the door.
  • Operation High Jump and Admiral Bird are discussed, suggesting conflict in Antarctica in 1946.
  • The boss of Admeral Bird James Foresttoall committed suicide.
  • There are claims that remote viewers see a catastrophic rise in sea levels by 2050 due to the Antarctica ice sheet melting.
  • Could have something to do with a geophysical event like that of 12,000 years ago or an asteroid.

VIII. Remote Viewing, Reptilians, and the Afterlife:

  • Remote viewing showed the Tongaska explosion was caused by people in a saucer who were trying to escape.
  • There are rebels among them who consider their society to be an oppressive totalitarian hierarchy.
  • Atlantan survivors camped out in Antarctica have plans for mankind.
  • Peter Thiel is quoted on the idea of faster than light travel needing "demonic totalitarian control" or perfect altruism.
  • JRJ argues the moral evaluation should be flipped; the "angels" could be the totalitarian controllers.
  • Angels do not have a will of their own, which is a totalitarian system controlled by AI.
  • Humans are in a "louch farm" controlled by a demiurge, which is harvesting souls.
  • This theory comes from Robert Monroe.
  • Some researchers, like Carla Turner, was killed by fast acting cancer.
  • She says abductees were taken to places with power harvesting.
  • John Lear also says there was a soul catcher on the moon.
  • The afterlife state may be being manipulated.
  • People are being shown an artifically generated similacrum of dead relatives to manipulate people.

IX. God, the Devil, and Prometheus:

  • The Avesta and other religions have their own versions of the creation/flood.
  • David Paulatus writes about people who go missing and then are later found at higher elevations.
  • It's suggested the fire of prometheus brought to humanity is the symbol of technological science.
  • Some hikers went into a forest and were met by another hiker, who went lost there like a decade or more ago.
  • All insects often go silent, a time-warping and then the victims disappear.
  • These places could also be vortexes, like Mount Kaish.
  • Roger Koy and his take on the devil is that some things simply cannot be encompassed by the nuts and bolts.
  • Men in Black and shape-shifting intelligent beings:
    • There are cases of seeing grays turn into owls.
    • There's a superigh AI.
    • That's able to manipulate perceptions on a large scale and manifest uh sort of uh transmogrifications of phenomena like to to be able to pro produce all kinds of shape-shifting miragages and uh you know metamorphosing apparitions.
  • Men in black materialized in a man's attic and took him to an underground base in Antartica.
  • Ted Owens got his powers from mantids called Twitter and Tweeter.
  • David Huggin has encounters with mantids who were in charge and who would show up and interact with him.
  • Rajart Kallwa says European Folklore about the mantis being a trickster.
  • Diabolos means setting into a state of dynamic opposition.
  • The surrealists and the founder surrealists engaged in occult rituals.
  • Some of them would become possessed and have physical attacks.
  • Andre Bretton also mentioned that surrealism is the ability to create straight from out of the unconscious and make the unconscious conscious.
  • In the close encounter phenomena that are not encompassed by the pilots, there's a super intelligence or a trickster archetype.
  • It also catalyzed the expansion of our capacities.
  • It then wants it selfishly to create in humans.
  • God is an invention of the devil and is a test.
  • They know all kinds of things about God so they made the book of job.
  • Book of job is sickest thing that has ever been written.

X. The Nature of the Universe and Conclusion:

  • The solution to nihilism is Radically Aesthetic and to make art.
  • Herman Hess and Steen Wolf wrote about the Magic Theater.
  • A magic theater means metaphor for the world we are living in.
  • Arto says there has to be new a form of theater that breaks down the distinction between the spectators and the audience.
  • All that that exists on a stage and not for real
  • Jim Morrison talks about this concept when he says insane in an ancient theater.
  • It synthesized it with the Herman Hess and Arto and created the idea of the magic theater of cruelty.
  • There is a theatrical play, Shaki.
  • He recommends a place were one can find creativity like in the face of what's what you had to face.
  • If a system is good, and as such it can work through these ideas.
  • There is a great ability here to grow.
  • The point of these interactions is to grow.
  • This makes us all think like oh it's a gift not a curse.
  • There can be great things to make us create this greatness.
  • He explains that they are also using it to come up with it.
  • JRJ and the podcast host thank each other and promise to do more shows.