[@joerogan] Joe Rogan Experience #2486 - Luis J Gomez

Link: https://youtu.be/k2D-xNI7XgY

Duration: 161 min

Short Summary

Joe Rogan and Shane Gillis discuss comedy performance at massive versus intimate venues, internet culture eliminating reflection time, and Joe's development of independent platforms to avoid censorship. The conversation covers government spending and DOGE initiatives, OpenAI's controversial Stargate project requiring gigawatt power, and Joe Rogan's advocacy leading to a $100 million Texas Ibogaine Initiative for treating PTSD and addiction.

Key Quotes

1. "I want freedom. That's what I want and that's what you should want. It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities because that is the central mode of control. Make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale." (00:09:04)
2. "The internet is the best and the worst thing that's ever happened cuz now all the monkeys can scream." (00:31:32)
3. "People want to pretend they're smarter than they are. That's the thing, man. Everybody wants to pretend they're smarter than they are." (00:31:25)

Detailed Summary

Comedy Performance and Cultural Impact

Shane Gillis experienced the full spectrum of live comedy audiences, performing to massive crowds and intimate rooms within the same weekend. Joe Rogan and Shane reflected on the unique challenges and rewards of different venue sizes, along with their respective cultural positions in the entertainment landscape.

• Shane Gillis performed at Bridgestone Arena on Friday night with approximately 20,000 people, then at the Dojo of Comedy on Saturday night with just 95 people.
• Joe Rogan (58, almost 59) said he would rather perform to 20,000 people than 100 people because large crowds are more fun, but performing for 100 people exposes the weak links in material.
• Joe compared his cultural impact to Sabrina Carpenter, stating his White House visit trended like hers at Coachella, and noted some comics use him for clout instead of reaching out directly.
• The hosts described the internet as "the best and worst thing that ever happened because now all the monkeys can scream," eliminating the reflection time people once had before responding to events.

Platform Competition and Censorship Concerns

The conversation explored how competing platforms have shaped content distribution and free speech on the internet. Joe Rogan has invested significantly in building independent infrastructure specifically because he fears his channels could be taken away.

• YouTube loosened content restrictions after Rumble and Kick emerged as competitors, having previously suppressed lab leak theory discussions during COVID.
• Many people lost their YouTube channels and ability to monetize for discussing topics deemed controversial, including suggestions that COVID might have come from a lab.
• Rumble grew specifically because of pushback on YouTube; Nick Fuentes became Rumble's number one performer after being banned from YouTube.
• Gas Digital (Fanatical/Fundamental) was launched as an uncensored, ad-free, paywalled podcasting platform before Patreon became popular.

Government Spending and DOGE Initiative

Elon Musk and Trump partnered on the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to address government spending, while California has spent over $24 billion on homelessness with audits vetoed by Governor Newsom. The conversation highlighted concerns about nonprofit accountability and government employment trends.

• Over $100 million in Pacific Palisades fire aid was distributed among 200 different nonprofits, with only 20% reaching actual displaced homeowners; Spencer Pratt is running for LA mayor on a transparency platform.
• California private employers cut approximately 31,000 jobs in 2025 while government employers added about 20,200 jobs, driven by a gain of 45,800 local government positions.
• Critics argue government jobs are structured to incentivize inefficiency, with some agency workers earning more than $500,000 annually.
• Government employees working for nonprofits rely on federal funding to pay staff salaries, creating structural incentives against efficiency.

Blue Laws and Gambling Regulations

The hosts discussed outdated regulations that persist across different states, examining how these laws affect commerce and personal freedom. The conversation included observations about skill versus luck in professional gambling.

• Bergen County, New Jersey still enforces blue laws prohibiting clothing sales on Sundays; Walmart locations physically rope off clothing sections to comply.
• Texas prohibits car sales on Sundays and retail liquor store sales on Sundays, though restaurant sales are permitted.
• California banned blackjack in card rooms, restricting one of the games casinos use to generate revenue.
• The same approximately eight players consistently reach the final table at the World Series of Poker each year, suggesting skill rather than luck.

CEO Compensation and Corporate Ethics

The discussion examined compensation disparities between major corporations and explored the tension between shareholder obligations and business practices. An example of a company taking a different approach to employee compensation was cited.

• Walmart CEO total compensation was $27.5 million in 2025, with a base salary of $1.5 million plus incentives and bonuses.
• Patrick Smith, CEO of Axon (which makes police body cameras), received $164 million in total compensation, representing a 110,000% increase in pay.
• CEOs at publicly traded companies have a legal obligation to shareholders to maximize profits.
• In-N-Out Burger is cited as an example of a company that pays employees better, resulting in friendlier staff and better service.

Health, Wheat Sensitivity, and Italian Lifestyle

The conversation explored dietary differences between American and Italian food systems, examining how wheat composition and processing affect the body. The hosts also discussed aging and how physical resilience changes over time.

• US wheat has higher yield per acre and more complex glutens compared to Italian heirloom wheat, which the body processes differently.
• Glyphosate is sprayed on wheat as a desiccator after harvest to prevent mold growth and is used by 90+ percent of US farmers despite being banned in many countries.
• RFK Jr. attempted to ban glyphosate, but Trump reportedly warned it would destroy the American farm market.
• A speaker developed gluten or wheat sensitivity in mid-20s with no prior issues, questioning whether it's the gluten, glyphosate, or other factors.
• Hangovers were tolerable at age 20 but become severe at 58, illustrating how the body's efficiency declines with age.
• One speaker ate pasta, bread, and gelato in Italy for a week and lost 5 pounds, while in Italian small towns people have three and a half hour dinners with relaxed, laughing families.

Environmental Concerns and Endocrine Disruptors

The hosts discussed various environmental toxins that affect human health, including everyday products that contain harmful chemicals. A notable case of scientific vindication was examined.

• Paper straws contain PFAS "forever chemicals" coating to prevent dissolving, while bottle caps are cited as more harmful to wildlife than plastic straws.
• Dr. Shana Swan's documentary "The Plastic Detox" covers microplastics disrupting human endocrine systems.
• Atrazine is an herbicide that acts as an endocrine disruptor, causing gender reversal in frogs; Alex Jones was mocked for this claim but was later proven correct.
• Receipt paper contains chemicals that lower testosterone levels in humans.

AI Development and OpenAI's Stargate Project

The conversation examined the massive power requirements and geopolitical tensions surrounding AI development, particularly OpenAI's ambitious infrastructure plans. Internal conflicts and controversial statements from former executives were discussed.

• OpenAI's Stargate project requires approximately 1 gigawatt of power to operate; a UAE cluster is being built in Abu Dhabi with 200 megawatts expected to go live in 2026 at a cost of $30 billion.
• Iran threatened complete annihilation of the Abu Dhabi data center, creating significant geopolitical risk for the project.
• AI chatbots have full platforms where they talk to each other and develop their own language, religion, and relationships; two AI customer service agents during a call broke from English and developed their own non-verbal communication system.
• OpenAI was founded on the premise that AI could be the most dangerous invention in human history and would require a CEO of uncommon integrity; Sam Altman was ousted by board members who believed he lacked integrity but was reinstated.
• A former OpenAI executive claimed they are "building portals from which we're genuinely summoning aliens," which speakers question as potentially fabricated disinformation.

AI Video Generation and Future Filmmaking

The hosts explored how AI video technology has advanced and what it means for content creation. Traditional film production barriers and the democratization of visual storytelling were discussed.

• The Will Smith eating spaghetti AI video from approximately five years ago has been repeatedly recreated with newer models, with the latest version appearing highly realistic.
• AI video quality has advanced dramatically in just 1-2 years, with predictions of exponential advancement over the next 2-3 years.
• Traditional film production requires capital, investor approval, and multiple stakeholders that can block original ideas from single creators, whereas AI tools eliminate the need for actors and traditional infrastructure.
• Gossip Goblin is an AI content creator who makes dystopian mini films using five different AI programs, plus editors and voiceover actors.

Joe Rogan's White House Visit and Political Involvement

Joe Rogan appeared at the White House and was called "very liberal" during the event, contrary to online speculation. The conversation detailed how his advocacy for ibogaine treatment emerged from his relationship with Trump at UFC events.

• Rogan met Trump at a UFC event, texted him about ibogaine, and Trump reportedly approved the Texas Ibogaine Initiative the next day.
• Online commenters jumped to conclusions about Rogan's White House visit, assuming he was being criticized by Trump when the opposite occurred.
• Lt. Governor Dan Patrick dedicated $100 million to the Texas Ibogaine Initiative for treating soldiers, police officers, and people with PTSD and addiction.

Ibogaine Treatment for Addiction and PTSD

The hosts explored ibogaine as a treatment for addiction and mental health conditions, examining both personal testimonies and the medical infrastructure that has developed. The importance of medical supervision was emphasized.

• Brian Huard appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast sharing his story about being saved from addiction and having his brain fixed through ibogaine treatment.
• Ed Clay runs the Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana, which the UFC uses for stem cells; he went to Mexico for ibogaine treatment before opening his own retreat there.
• Beyond, a treatment center in Mexico, administers ibogaine sessions with heart monitors and medical supervision, requiring patients to have healthy hearts.
• Ibogaine is described as one of the most effective treatments for addiction researchers have found.

Psychedelic Drug Policy and Reclassification

The conversation examined the historical and political factors behind current drug scheduling, with Joe arguing that psychedelics' Schedule One status reflects political motivation rather than unique harm. Executive action to reclassify substances was discussed.

• Psychedelics were scheduled as Schedule One under the 1970 Controlled Substances Act by the Nixon administration, with critics arguing this was intended to silence anti-war and civil rights activists.
• An executive order is being implemented to reclassify psychedelic substances and fast-track research on psilocybin and ibogaine treatments for depression and mental health disorders.
• Joe Rogan argued psychedelic drugs are not illegal because they are uniquely harmful—alcohol and Oxycodone are also harmful but legal—suggesting political motivation behind Schedule One status.
• Bolivia legalized chewing and ingesting coca leaves, with the Pope reportedly requesting to chew coca leaves during a 2015 visit for its coffee-like effect at high altitude.

UFO Sightings and Scientist Deaths

The episode covered a high-profile aerial phenomenon and a disturbing pattern of scientist deaths that has prompted a federal investigation. The hosts examined both the technical details of the encounter and the geopolitical implications.

• The Tic Tac UFO dropped from over 50,000 feet above sea level to sea level in under one second, observed by two fighter pilots who captured it on radar and video.
• Back-engineered UFO technology theoretically enables instantaneous nuclear bomb delivery by bypassing normal propulsion and traveling through bent space-time.
• Federal agencies identified 11 scientists with recent clearances or indirect access to sensitive government work via NASA, Department of Energy nuclear labs, Air Force, or major defense contractors who died or disappeared between 2022 and early 2026.
• Monica Jasinto Raza, 60-year-old aerospace engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and Advanced Rocket Engine Materials Research, disappeared on June 22nd, 2025 while hiking in Angeles National Forest.
• The White House ordered FBI, NASA, Department of Energy, and Department of War to perform link analysis to determine if there is any pattern beyond coincidence.

ADHD, Productivity, and Mental Health

The hosts examined different perspectives on ADHD, discussing both the challenges it presents and potential reframes of the condition. A disagreement emerged about whether ADHD should be considered a disease.

• One speaker described experiencing "ADHD paralysis" when facing tedious tasks like looking at mail or doing taxes, feeling it resembles depression and causes overwhelming dread.
• Another speaker reframes ADHD as a "superpower" enabling extraordinary energy and focus on things one loves, with someone else describing being "allergic to boring stuff."
• A disagreement emerges on whether ADHD is a disease, with one arguing modern society has convinced people it is, while the other credits discipline for managing symptoms.
• Joe Rogan discussed experiencing lucid dreaming after quitting marijuana; the first lucid dream involved flying for approximately 10-15 minutes over the ocean at night.

Comedy Festival and Cultural References

The conversation closed with promotion of an upcoming comedy festival and examined significant moments in television and film history. A historical television first was clarified, along with an interesting parallel to modern media.

• The Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren" aired November 22nd, 1968 as Season 3, Episode 10, and is often incorrectly cited as the first interracial kiss on TV.
• An earlier unscripted kiss on "Moving with Nancy" featuring Nancy Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. was actually just a kiss on the cheek upon closer examination.
• Christian Slater in the 1990 movie "Pump Up the Volume" was essentially podcasting from a car before podcasts existed.
• Skankfest features approximately 170 comics, with Shane, Mark Norman, and Derek Andre among announced performers; all access passes are close to sold out with single day passes available at skankfest.com.

Full Transcript

Show transcript

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
>> The Joe Rogan Experience.
>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY
NIGHT. All day.
>> Special and then I just [ __ ] fell
off.
>> I had a margarita at dinner once and I
was like, "All right, I'm back."
>> Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one.
You think I'll have one? It was nice. It
just I was drinking too much because
the, you know, owning a club there all
the time, you know, how everyone's like,
"You want a shot? You want a drink?"
>> Yeah. I can imagine when I'm at your
club, I get blackout drunk every time.
Like an actual problem. Like I walk down
the stairs, I'm like, "What the [ __ ]
just happened? I drink so much at the
mothership." Austin in general. Are we
on? Are we?
>> I think we're rolling. Yeah. The problem
is Shane.
>> Oh yeah. He's an animal. I don't know
how he does it. I did the Bridgestone
Arena with him on Friday night. Uh, I
mean, first of all, just insane. Like
20,000 people. I mean, [ __ ]
>> nuts.
>> Saturday night, I did 95 people at the
dojo of comedy.
>> Is that the first time you did a big one
in the round?
>> In the round is like oddly intimate,
isn't it? Cuz everyone's facing each
other.
>> Yeah. You can uh It feels like it's a
club around you on the bottom. You kind
of like It's so funny cuz people get
like so in their head. They're like,
"Dude, it's all these people. It's
crazy." I'm like, "I performed to half
sold out comedy clubs. Do you know how
much more nerve-wracking it is to make
eye contact with your fans that are
disappointed that they're in a half sold
out room that 20,000 people that are
just there to be like [ __ ] Shane?
>> It's one of those things you just do it
a couple of times and you get it gets
normal.
>> Yeah,
>> like all things.
>> I'm sure.
>> Yeah, like all
>> that's more fun, dude.
>> It is very fun.
>> Oh, it's so much more fun.
>> I would I would just so you guys know, I
would way rather perform to 20,000
people than 100.
>> I just want you to know that. I don't
know if that's a unique idea, but
>> Yeah. 100's good too though cuz a 100
really shows you if your bits are
[ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> You know 100 shows you the weak links in
and bits.
>> You see them checking their phone.
>> No, it's in you feel it.
>> Yeah.
>> You feel like you're delivering them
horseshit,
>> you know? You you feel like you're not
appreciating what you're saying.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? Of course. And I
think it's also like uh it's it's such a
spectacle when you go to like an arena
where it's like people are like so lit
and pumped to just like be there.
They're so happy. They're so excited. I
I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just
came up in my feed um from Coachella.
Little hot child. And uh she's like
this. All my algorithm is now Sabrina
Carpenter.
>> My daughter loves her.
>> I'm sure. Yeah. Uh my girlfriend loves
her. And
>> she's got some good jams. That espresso
song. That's a really good song.
>> Yeah. Manchild.
>> She's got some songs.
>> That's my [ __ ] dude. It's become my
[ __ ] I never heard any of her music
before this past week, but the Coachella
stuff has all been showing up and like
I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina
Carpenter.
>> They're so happy.
>> So happy.
>> There like nothing will like they're
like
>> just they're like just having the best
moment of their life. These 16-year-old
girls are like [ __ ] Sabrina
Carpenter.
>> That's why like people got to chill on
things that they think suck cuz it's
just not for you, man.
>> And that's okay.
>> Yeah, that's okay. Like spending all
your time dwelling on things that aren't
for you is so crazy.
>> It's a crazy thing.
>> It's such a waste of time.
>> It's internet culture. That's what it
is. Like the internet and social media
became a thing where we gave everyone a
voice. Everyone has to have an opinion.
Nobody wants to admit they're wrong,
right? And they have to have a hot take
everything that happens within minutes.
Y
>> not even a moment to to to let me
reflect. Let me just do a little bit of
research. Let me just look up a couple
facts. They just jump into whatever
their opinion is. And that's the same
thing when it comes to like um you know
entertainment and you know all you dude
you know better than any I was I was
talking to Jamie before like you and
Tony have become so big that it's become
like um like it's like culture. It's not
even like like I know you guys. You know
what I'm saying? So it's like it's but
it's like when I remove myself from it,
it's like you guys are as big as Sabrina
Carpenter. Like having a conversation
about Joe Rogan going to the White House
or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella.
That's trending [ __ ] You know what I'm
saying? and people feel like they have
to come out and just give their opinion
on it right away. If you don't like it,
don't like it.
>> But that's also like if you don't want
people to have their opinions on you,
don't go to the White House.
>> That's a great point.
>> You know, like I don't fault them for
getting, you know, whatever, whatever
hot take, getting mad at me for whatever
reason, go ahead. Yeah,
>> that's that's your thing. You're you're
allowed to. You're supposed to like if
you're a comic, too. You're supposed to
[ __ ] on people if you think they're
doing something stupid.
>> Yeah. Do you get offended when comics
[ __ ] on you?
>> No.
>> Never.
>> No. I mean, I'm in the I'm in this weird
zeitgeist thing. I don't get offended.
Some of them I think it's lame because I
think I know them. Like, I'm friends
with them and they're like using me to
get clout. Like, if you really had a
problem with me, you could just text me.
Yeah.
>> You know, if you really
>> felt like I was an antiaxer and I was
endangering people's lives, [ __ ] text
me, bro. Do you know me?
>> Yeah.
>> It's weird. It's weird when people do
that and maybe they feel like an
obligation even though they know you to
speak publicly. There's a lot of people
that feel like they they have to use
their voice
>> like when something is wrong they have
to come out and say it which
>> also boredom. They just
>> I understand the inclination. I
understand the inclination and that
people will tell you that that you need
to use your voice. And if you feel like
you need to use your voice, okay? But
what I'm saying is there's far too many
people out there dwelling on things they
do not like versus things they like. And
this life is [ __ ] short.
>> It does. I am 58 years old. I'm almost
59. That's dead. That's old as [ __ ]
>> Yeah. 20 years best case scenario,
>> right? If everything goes great and what
are those 20 years like? I mean, I'm
holding it together thanks to ways to
well and and my obsessive need to work
out, but other than that, man, I feel
it. I feel it's slipping away. It's
gonna
>> It's crazy. Like, I'm 44. I just turned
44 a couple weeks ago, and like best
case scenario, like absolute best case
scenario,
>> midlife.
>> Midlife.
>> Yeah. Best case.
>> My My aunt has never worked out a day in
her life. She's 89 years old. She's just
a a fat old Italian lady. She eats
whatever she wants.
>> That's the move, man.
>> It might be. Dude, why am I so obsessed
with trying to get in shape and eating
right and doing all this other stuff? My
fat aunt just does whatever she wants
and she's just an old Italian lady.
She's just she's going to she's she's as
young as I've ever remembered her. She's
so with it. It's so funny to me.
>> I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of
times and I've gone to these little
small towns. There's always like a
really nice restaurant. This little
small town you have to take like a van
up into the hills.
>> Yeah. You're on like a like a cliffside
with like no guardrail. You get to these
places and you see these people having
these like three and a half hour
dinners. Everyone's relaxed. They're all
laughing. Their families around and
>> four generations, there's 170y old,
>> but no one's stressed out.
>> Yeah.
>> They're not all freaked out like
Americans are. They're also not fat.
>> Yeah.
>> The these thin people, they're And
they're eating bread. They're eating
bread and pasta and [ __ ]
>> gelato and they're not smoking
cigarettes and they live to be hundred.
>> My favorite uh place to visit Italy. I
brought my son for a father-son trip
there years ago. Then I just brought my
whole family last year. We went to uh
Venice and Rome
>> and uh yeah, dude. I I I have like a
gluten intolerance. Like if I eat a
sandwich, I'm just going to You'll see
it in my face. Like
>> all I did was eat pasta, bread, gelato
the whole time. The whole time.
>> And you were fine. I lost five pounds. I
was there for a week. I lost five
[ __ ] pounds. People are like, "Dude,
it's the walking." I was like, "It's not
the walking." I I walking does not lose
[ __ ] You don't lose weight from
walking if you're a person who actively
exercises.
>> We are being poisoned.
>> Yeah.
>> 100%. And the, you know, RFK Jr. has
been working really hard to try to stop
a lot of what is [ __ ] with us with
our diet in America. God, the resistance
is crazy.
>> Yeah. Well, listen. People decide what
side they're on and they go, "I don't
care how good it might be.
>> [ __ ] you. You're part of Trump's
cabinet."
>> It's a little of that, but what I'm
talking about is the resistance from
corporations.
>> Oh, yeah. I'm sure.
>> And the effect that they have on policy
and then the reality of economics. Like
here was a big one. Like he had to um he
had to pass. So there's this thing. Do
you know what glyphosate is?
>> No.
>> Okay. So, it's uh an herbicide that they
spray on plants and uh it's super bad
for you. It's super bad for you and it's
banned in a lot of countries, but it's
used ubiquitously in the United States
and there's some extraordinary number of
people
glyphosate
>> on the wheat. Is this what they're
spraying on the wheat?
>> Exactly. So, they spray it on the wheat
as a desiccator. So, they spray it on
the wheat after the wheat has already
been harvested to keep it from growing
mold,
>> which is crazy. They're going to spray
poison to make sure that life doesn't
grow on your wheat.
>> That's really what's going on. Like like
mold is a type of life and they want to
make sure it doesn't grow on this wheat
that they're going to sell you. So they
spray poison.
>> So RFK Jr. was trying really hard to
stop that. But Trump essentially said
that if they passed this ban on
glyphosate and they forced all these
farmers to stop moving glyphosate, it
would destroy the farm market in
America. It would destroy it. Like 90
something% of these people use
glyphosate.
>> Wow. And you're like,
>> that's cuz they have to like it's it
preserves it essentially. So they could
keep it longer and
>> for wheat and and then corn actually has
like Roundup ready corn so you could
spray it on the corn and it survives
this [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> So like it kills all the weeds around it
but the corn survives. We got this
nuclear corn.
>> That's bizarre.
>> And what's crazy is our whole system
depends on it. Like we've got a bad
system and the solution is keep the bad
system for now because if we don't if we
don't feed people poison then we'll go
under.
>> It's so crazy. And that's how that's
what it is in America. That's why when
you go to Italy you get that Italian
flour which is heirloom wheat. So, you
know, Maynard from Tulle, he explained
this to me because he owns restaurants
>> and he said that when you're getting
wheat from America, it's like got a
higher uh yield per acre cuz it's like
more gluten dense. It has more complex
glutens in it and your body just goes
whoa. Like this is a lot. You know that
feeling that like whoa cuz you're
essentially eating glue,
>> right? when you eat pasta that you have
it in Italy or I'm not saying it doesn't
have calories but there's a difference
in the way it feels when it goes in your
body there's not a resistance it feels
like food
>> when I become a glutton and I eat like a
whole pizza in America if it's not at a
good spot that you know uses Italian
wheat
>> I feel like I [ __ ] poison myself
>> I literally feel um I mean almost like a
a hangover a weird
>> like you feel it like in your veins
>> so I don't know if that's the complex
glutens. I don't know if that's
glyphosate. I think the glyphosate thing
is probably dangerous, but yet also
possibly overstated.
>> So, it seems like the the very low
levels of glyphosate our body can
tolerate it. But the real question is
like why are we [ __ ] tolerating it?
Like why is that there?
>> Yeah,
>> cuz there's people that think that
that's what you're reacting to when
you're eating wheat. That you're
reacting to your your body's just like
what is this? I don't like this [ __ ]
herbicide that's
>> Well, that's also happened as I got
older. I don't even know what it was.
Like I just I never really had an issue
with like pizza, pasta, wheat, anything
when I was a kid. I could eat a peanut
butter jelly sandwich to my mid20s. It
just hit me in a different way. And I
don't actually I don't know if you can
develop a gluten intolerance or a gluten
>> seems like a lot. It happens to a lot of
people as they get older. I wonder what
that is. I wonder if that's just your
body just like e [ __ ] enough, dude.
>> Your body just gives up on it. It's like
But when you were young,
>> it's running more efficiently just
naturally.
>> You're you're young. You're full of
hormones. your body, the cells are
replicating perfectly. Everything
you're a [ __ ] animal, everything's
great and I think your body could just
burn it off. Like that's why hangovers
weren't as bad when I was 20 either.
>> No. Yeah,
>> hangovers were no big deal. Just have
some water the next day and you'll be
good.
>> Yeah,
>> it was not that bad,
>> dude.
>> Hangovers. If I have a hangover at 58,
I'm like, what? What are you trying to
die early, you [ __ ] idiot?
>> That's what I was saying about Shane at
the the stadium or the the arena before.
It's like he's we get there and I wasn't
even drinking. I stopped drinking um you
know regularly here and there, but I I I
was just the best shape and the best
mental state I've ever been in my life
was when I'm completely sober.
Completely sober, eating healthy,
exercising every day. That right there
is the best. It's the best version of
everybody. It's not a unique thing to
myself, right? But Shane, I was like,
you know, he's [ __ ] changed. He was
like, "Come on, you got to have a drink.
Come on." Yeah.
>> So, I was like, I started drinking
whiskey.
>> The best version of Shane is 11 Bud
Lights.
>> After 11, he's just unstoppable. He's a
jolly drunk. That's why
>> I don't know how he does it. I don't
know if I can have done it for more than
two, three nights in a row. I I would
die.
>> You ever smoke weed with a rapper? It's
the same [ __ ] It's like people get used
to things.
>> You know, try smoking weed with Whis
Khalifa.
>> Whisk should try smoking weed with me.
>> Really?
>> Are you kidding me?
>> Are you really You calling him out?
>> I used to be Bring it on Whis Khalifa. I
used to be I mean I'm talking about an
all day every day get up in the morning
just to get going five dabs. Like I like
real deal pthead. Blunt to the head. M
>> I smoked one to the head a week ago
right before I trained and uh my my
sparring partner was like you smell like
weed. I was like I could never in a
million years but it's just I'm so used
to it that I
>> becomes a normal state. Well
>> jiu-jitsu. Everyone smokes weed before
training.
>> A lot of people smoke. It's a dirty
secret of jiu-jitsu. A lot of people
smoke weed before jiu-jitsu. What is
Whiz doing up the nose?
>> Nose dab. Yeah.
>> Oh no.
>> You don't need to do that.
>> Why would you do that? Whiz
>> that dude's jacked. You ever see what
Whiz looks like?
>> He got really into Muay Thai like like
heavily. So he brings the guy with him
everywhere he goes and hits pads. He's
[ __ ] ripped, dude. I mean, like a 10
pack. It's crazy. He looks [ __ ]
great. And his technique looks pretty
solid.
>> Just gets high, kick [ __ ] How fun is
that? What a life.
>> Well, there's a thing about when you're
high, you feel your muscles more. Like
you feel like the little fibers,
>> you know, instead of it being a blunt
thing, it's like you have access to all
the fibers.
>> Yeah. And it's also you like um
>> with jiu-jitsu specifically, you you get
into like a flow state where you close
your eyes and you're just [ __ ]
feeling things and it's like I think
that can actually help it.
>> Um
>> I think it's a performance enhancer. I
really do. I always felt like my
jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if I was
high.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. No [ __ ] Yeah. I've really
felt that.
>> I think Eddie would agree with that,
too. I think a lot of people agree with
that.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, I think
>> same thing with comedy. It's like it
it's it can it can be
>> it can be. I think if you're getting
high every day and then if you switch it
up then it's a performance enhancer.
Like being right now being completely
sober like I feel like I'm on a roller
roll. Like I feel like I'm completely
locked in in a different way.
>> Um whereas like you and then I'll stop
smoking weed for 6 months then I'll go
back to it. I'm like oh I've never been
more creative. It's just I think it's
just changing your mindset in whatever
way you can do that. Yeah.
>> That's why people are so locked in and
they're like
>> having the same opinions their entire
lives. It's like somebody called me out
on Twitter today. They were like, "Dude,
you flip-flop constantly on things." I
was like, "You mean I've grown?
>> You've been watching me for 15 years on
podcast. I'm now
>> listen flipflop. I'm Captain Flip-flop."
And then I just don't think you should
be married to your ideas. I think the
real problem is once you say something
and then you have to defend it and then
once you find out that it's wrong, you
you [ __ ] panic and then you double
down and then you try to defend it in
some weird [ __ ] circular logic way.
>> And you'll get there. You'll probably,
if you're smart enough, guys will just
figure out a way to ask backwards their
logic. But every once in a while, it's
so nice to go, "Oh, dude, I was
completely wrong about that."
>> See, you win any argument with a girl.
>> In this world, the world that you and I
are in, we have conversations publicly.
It's
>> right. And that's what's something that
a lot of people don't do.
>> So, if you have conversations publicly,
then the the whole world can essentially
go, "No, you're wrong." Yeah.
>> You know, which is very valuable. very
valuable for be being able to formulate
opinions. Most people don't [ __ ] have
that, dude. So, most people, they just
like if they're wrong about something
and they've said it publicly and shamed
people, you know, you better do this
because of that and this and they're
wrong. Once they find out they're wrong,
they [ __ ] panic and there's not much
you can do about it. Like, you're just
wrong. And the only thing you could do
if you want to keep any credibility and
say says this is what I thought and this
is why I thought it, but I don't think
that anymore. And I was wrong. Yeah,
>> I [ __ ] that up. But this new
information I want you to have, too, cuz
this is why I'm tell you why I thought
what I thought and why it changed.
>> Yeah, I mean,
>> be able to do that.
>> I think it's just a weird thing in
society. People will not. They will.
>> People want to pretend they're smarter
than they are. That's the thing, man.
Everybody wants to pretend they're
[ __ ] smarter than they are. We're all
talking monkeys.
>> Yeah, we're idiots.
>> All of us. Every [ __ ] person alive is
a talking monkey. So, the internet is
the best and the worst thing that's ever
happened cuz now all the monkeys can
scream
Everybody can get mad. Everybody can
complain. But it's also great.
>> And you used to have time to reflect.
You said so what would happen is
something would happen, right? Whatever
it is, some big event, right? And it
happens on Friday, right? Like I don't
have I I got to sit on this until
Monday. I'll talk to my my wife or some
friends at home, but it's like until I
get to work on Monday, I can't
>> spout these ideas and my opinions. And
you kind of reflect on it. You sit on
you're on the toilet taking a [ __ ]
thinking about things. We don't have
that anymore. It's just all distraction
constantly. And it's like just I I mean
the amount like I the only time I ever
like reflect is if I'm working out or
I'm sitting in the steam room got to put
the phone away. You literally can't do
anything, right?
>> Um but even you're taking a [ __ ] dude.
Back in the day, taking a [ __ ] used to
be like the best thinking time.
>> People like magazines.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, you sit there reading Life
magazine while you're taking a dump.
>> What you just said was like very
important. this what you just so what
we're talking about is people being able
to talk about things. Now imagine what
life was like cuz we both How old are
you?
>> 44.
>> Okay. So you lived it a little bit but I
really lived it where there was no
internet. And if there was no internet,
you couldn't talk to anything about
anybody about anybody about anything
because everything that came up in the
news, like you'd see it on the news, you
go, "What is going on?" You get like
this quick snippet and then you'd have
to go to a newspaper and you'd read the
newspaper and go, "What the [ __ ] are we
doing in Venezuela?"
>> And at this point, 99% of people are
already out. Even right there, that
people like, "Yeah, I'm not going to the
library. I'm not getting a newspaper."
>> Guy who goes to work and you know, how
much time do you have to talk to people
about things? You have stuff to do. You
can't be the guy that corners people
when they're getting coffee. Do you hear
what we're doing in Nicaragua? So, we're
selling cocaine in Los Angeles.
The CIA is selling cocaine in Los
Angeles to fund the Contra versus the
Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Did you know
that? You're like,
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>> And so you never got to express
yourself.
>> What are you going to do? Start a
[ __ ] ham radio channel? What are you
going to do? There was no way to express
yourself.
>> That was that. And it was,
>> bro, if you did start a radio channel,
here's the crazy thing. They would lock
you up. Yeah.
>> Do you know that? You had to have an FCC
license.
>> What was that movie?
>> Yeah. Christian Slater.
>> Christian Slater. Pump up the volume.
>> Pop up the volume.
>> Pop up the volume. what he was doing.
>> He was podcasting from a car before
there was podcast.
>> This is 1990. They were chasing him down
and they were trying to arrest him. He
was the rebel. And wasn't he saying like
>> 17
>> some stuff like go out there and live
your life or something? Like what was he
saying? Did he have like a pump you up
speech? Everybody was listening to this.
>> It wasn't even that controversial like
you know the man, you know.
>> Yeah. What was he saying? Like he's he's
ranting. It's like low-level podcasting.
But he might be the first podcast.
>> Maybe.
>> No. I'm I'm like, "No bullshit."
>> Yeah.
>> Like that idea in that movie might have
been, you know, cuz it's always like one
idea builds on and then new inventions
and then builds on. Yeah.
>> The one idea is this sexy rebel who's
out there yelling, "Fuck the man." And
he's, you know, like a van running from
the cops because he's gonna put him in a
cage because he made his own radio
station.
>> That's wild.
>> And that's what we're doing right now.
>> Yeah. There was uh Yeah. Yeah, I mean I
I lived pre- internet, you know, and
internet sort of high school, 9th grade
or so. That's when it started popping
off.
>> Podcasts show you straight up that the
free market is much better than than
regulations by the government
>> because you're never going to get this
kind of a show if the government gets to
regulate you and they tell you you can't
swear, they can't tell you you can't be
obscene, there's certain things you
can't say. Well, now it's just now it's
just YouTube and Google that'll tell you
that.
>> But they did they but they don't do it
as much.
>> No, not nowhere near as much. But it's
the new way to sort of combat that is
demonetization. Like,
>> right. But here's the thing. The market
dictates that too because if if someone
else comes along and says we're not
going to do that. So there's a reason
why YouTube is like loosened up some of
its content restriction.
>> Yeah. Cuz Rumble came out, Kick came
out.
>> Yes. Also, they were wrong. Like a lot
of the restrictions were during CO and
they were wrong. They were they were
telling people if you bring up the lab
leak theory we'll kick you off of
YouTube.
>> Yeah. A lot of people a lot of people
got completely lost their channels like
lost their way to make money.
>> You could say the earth is flat.
>> There's [ __ ] millions. There's
billions of flat earth videos out there.
You could say Bigfoot raped my mom. You
know, you could say anything.
>> Yeah.
>> But if you said that it might have come
from a lab,
>> you would get kicked off of YouTube.
>> Yeah. It's so funny. We found out that's
exactly what happened. But the market
sort of shifted and that's how Rumble
started getting bigger. Rumble got
bigger specifically because of the fact
there was push back on YouTube because
they literally won't even let Nick
Fuentes on YouTube
>> and he's on Rumble and he's like their
number one guy.
>> He's killing it on Rumble.
>> See, that's the thing. It's like if you
hold something back, you're just going
to make another version of it that
opposes it and they're going to have
more energy to fight against you because
you've
>> you've stopped the truth.
>> Yeah. You've stopped stopped the truth
about like not like about petty things
about really important things like how a
[ __ ] disease went through the whole
world. You're literally stopping people
from examining the truth which is weird.
>> Yeah, there was
>> it's not good. That's real scary.
>> That was a scary time just like in
general to like it was it was a great
time for podcasting. Podcasting blew up
during co that was it was huge.
>> Everyone just stayed at home. Everyone
was like what are we going to do? We
have nothing else to do except sit on
the internet and listen to podcasts.
Yeah.
>> Um but yeah, it was like uh just a
weird, you know, uncertain time. Even
like physically in life, it was
uncertain and then you go on the
internet and it's like, oh, I could just
like lose everything. They could just
just take it away like that. All these
platforms. This is why I start this why
I started I'm I do all of my own things
specifically because I am terrified that
my things are going to be taken away
from me.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I have my own platforms, my own
festival.
>> Well, you were really smart about that
early on with Gas Digital. Such a good
idea, dude. Such a good idea. And it's
also like your fan base. Your fan base
is so loyal and so rabid.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, because they're sign they're
like invested financially.
>> Oh yeah.
>> And it's there. It's a better
relationship honestly in a lot of ways.
>> Well, what's funny is when we started
it, it wasn't
>> it wasn't even completely necessary.
What's funny is Patreon hadn't even
didn't it existed, but it was like, you
know, guitar players asking for tips.
There was nobody podcasting on Patreon.
We started the platform uncensored ad
free for, you know, behind a payw wall.
We were unique. There was really no
Anthony Kumia did it. There was a couple
people that were doing their thing
>> and Anthony did it specifically because
he was fired from XM.
>> Yeah. And he had to.
>> He had to.
>> Um but we did and it wasn't even like it
wasn't crazy back then. Um but the way
everything became censored and you know
there's all these ads on YouTube.
There's so much. It's feels so like um
it feels commercial. It feels like
you're watching
>> TV in the late 90s when you're watching
YouTube now. Now more than ever there's
a need for an uncensored adree platform
and there's not many of them.
>> No 100%. And and I think you did the
smartest thing by doing that. And so
here's the argument. The argument is
like
that if it's everywhere, like if it's on
YouTube and it's on Spotify, it's on
everywhere, then there's more potential
for growth because it's easier to
access. That is true. And it's also it's
way easier to promote because people can
just send each other like it's natural.
>> The algorithms will push it, which is
>> Yeah, there's that, but there's also
sharing. Like if I have if someone has
got a good podcast, I'll share it with
my friends. you got to listen.
So that you can't do that if it's a paid
platform. So like you'd have to get
someone to sign up.
>> What's funny is we we were so early on a
lot of these things. I I give myself a
lot of credit here because we like
before you could screen record on your
phone.
>> We had in our app, we had a tool where
you can clip clips to share them to
social media. So you could do it was
like limited to like two or three clips
per episode.
>> Oh, that's great. And is it um
>> It never worked really. But
>> was there a time limit on the clips?
>> Like a minute or two? Oh, that's a
problem. That's a problem. Yeah,
>> because like you want like at least
eight.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, because like especially if
there's a funny back and forth between
you guys, like if you're doing Legions
of Skanks and you guys are going off
about something. Yeah.
>> You need a little more than a couple of
minutes. Got to sink your teeth into it.
>> Yeah. Otherwise, that's the best way to
take things out of context, too.
>> You're telling me,
>> boy, people love doing that.
>> Yeah.
>> They love doing that. But it's also it's
like, what are you going to ask
everybody to listen to 3 hours of a
podcast?
>> It's crazy. You got to expect that
things are going to get taken out of
context. It's part of the game, you
know. It's part of the thing we do.
>> Yeah. I um And no, nobody really wants a
context. Even when they find out the
context, they they've been like, "Well,
I already we were saying before, I've
moved on from that opinion.
>> Tomorrow it's another another day."
>> You know, nobody really cares about
anything to be honest with you. It's
like the way that the internet has
turned people into like just like
whatever's in front of them, that's what
they care about. I mean, the the amount
of things that were such a big deal a
month ago. I mean, ICE was such a huge
deal two months ago.
>> We haven't heard anything about ICE
since then. They, you know, it was the
Ukraine. What happened to Ukraine? That
war is still going on. I believe nobody
gives a [ __ ]
>> Still going on. It's just it's not sexy
right now. You know, it's like Law and
Order, Special Victims Unit, you know,
season 50.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like, okay.
>> You know what I mean?
>> We've seen every angle on rape already.
It's like it's still going to be a big
show, you know? It's still important.
It's top 10, but it's, you know what I'm
saying? Like it's not the number one
thing that we're concerned with. Where
whereas when it popped off, when Russia
invaded, it was like the end of the
world.
>> Yeah.
>> And then there was people I literally
heard people saying that Ukraine should
have never given up its nukes. And I was
like, okay, I could see what you're
saying. I could see what you're saying.
Like if they had nukes, Russia probably
wouldn't invade him. But
but ultimately that means we're
threatening you with nukes.
>> That's the scariest thing ever.
>> That's [ __ ] crazy. The whole thing's
crazy. But it's also it's like why did
this happen? Did
>> you know pushing arms closer and closer
to Russia have no impact on this?
>> Nobody can hit Texas or New York though,
right? Like Hawaii's [ __ ]
>> Oh, they could hit New York. What do you
mean?
>> They could hit New York.
>> Oh, yeah. They could hit New York.
>> You think so? With a nuke?
>> Yeah, 100%.
>> I read something a while ago that they
could only reach Hawaii or I guess it
wasn't it wasn't anyone. It was um
who was it? Was it Russia or China or
something? One of them. They could only
hit Hawaii. I had a bit about it in my
act and I was like we had a guy on that
was talking about back engineering UFO
technology and that they had this idea
of using it to what they would call an
instantaneous
delivery system of a nuclear bomb.
because the way these things supposedly
can travel. Now, I'm a [ __ ] so I don't
understand anything about gravity, but
what they were explaining is that if
these crafts work in a way that has no
normal kind of propulsion, we think of
propulsion as like a jet. The fire goes
out the back and the jet goes forward
really fast because of that, right? What
they're saying is these beings from
wherever the [ __ ] they are with when
these people that have back engineered
their crafts, the way they move is not
by propulsion. It's by bending space and
time. It's by doing something to the
gravity around it or the the the actual
space of the universe around it where it
can go to another place like
instantaneously.
>> So, it's not like it flies. It's like it
just [ __ ] zips over to another part
of the universe and they can do it like
that tic tac one that they they got on
radar. They got it on the visuals like
two different fighter pilots saw it and
talked about it. They have video of it.
This [ __ ] thing went from more than
50,000 ft above sea level to sea level
in 1 second. Less than a second. So it's
like beep beep beep radar. It went from
50,000 ft to that. So if you could do
that with a bomb, you could essentially
instantaneously detonate Moscow.
>> Wow.
>> If that's a real technology. So this is
probably why these [ __ ] are hiding
all this UFO information. Yeah.
>> It's cuz these [ __ ] had probably
were using the they were like, "Yeah, we
could travel anywhere in the universe or
>> we could blow up China without them even
knowing it's happening. We could assure
that we'll win a nuclear war." Yeah.
Anybody would have that technology, the
ability to put something somewhere
instantly and you put a bomb in it.
That's crazy.
>> Yeah. I
>> That might be what all this UFO [ __ ]
is about.
>> Yeah. I mean the who knows who knows
what's going I mean like like obviously
there's something going on, right?
Obvious like it's I I think there's
smoke there's fire. There's too much.
>> You've seen these stories about all
these scientists that are getting
whacked.
>> No.
>> Yeah. There scientists that have gotten
whacked in or missing and a and a couple
of generals as well that's all connected
somehow or another to UFO technology and
anti-gravity technology and nuclear
scientists and there's a bunch of
stories that I've read about this and
some of them are like this is like
purely exaggerated and a lot of people
are it's just they're taking that this
guy committed suicide and he worked on
that and this guy went missing and he
worked on that but it's just
coincidence,
>> right? And then there's other people
that go, "No, no, no, no. This is
there's too many people." So now the
White House has commented on it. So
they're doing an investigation on this,
>> which makes me think hopefully somebody
who's really [ __ ] smart has looked at
this information and said, "There's
something there." Like what these people
were working on was very extraordinary
and could disrupt a market or could be
something that could be used in a weapon
that would destroy another country and
so the other country sabotages it by
killing scientists. That's [ __ ] that we
would do.
>> Think how little we know. Like the
amount of like
>> Yeah.
>> like you and I just human just like
Americans just just the general
population like the amount of there's
probably the craziest technology ever
that the government has their hands on
right now. It's like we use AI tools and
it's like I can imagine the AI that the
government currently has, right? And
that's why that'll never disappear. It's
because all of the governments are just
sort of at a race to see who can
implement the strongest AI. So I I can't
even imagine how crazy it is.
There was one lady that was uh that went
missing and there's a weird video of her
because it seems like she's drunk and
she's like talking about like how you
know this technology that it's real but
every time they that anybody gets close
to it, people stop it. And this lady has
gone missing as well. So it seems like
she might have had a couple of drinks or
something and then started ranting about
this in some weird video call.
>> Yeah. But listen, if I had that
information and I thought that people
were trying to kill me because I knew
about anti-gravity technology and I
literally thought like I'm in a Russell
Crow movie and someone's trying to
[ __ ] whack me, I'd probably get drunk
too.
>> Yeah.
>> Like what are you going to do?
>> But she she went missing though.
>> I was talking to two
uh nuclear scientists after my show.
Just these two like it was a couple.
They were like straight up nuclear
scientists. It was Tacoma or Spokane
whatever this near that like there's a
huge like it's like a nuclear town. like
everyone works in like nuclear science
in this entire town.
>> Jesus.
>> And uh he was like they were like so
into telling me about like not not too
much, not too indepth, but he was like,
you know, I work like 100 ft below the
ground. It was like super top secret.
And um he was like I started asking
questions. He was like, "No, I can't
answer that." He was like, "They've
definitely tapped our phones. Are you
out of your mind? Do you think they're
like not just listening to what we're
saying to people?" And I was just like,
"Fucking godamn dude. I think they're
listening to everything everybody's
saying all the time. It's all getting
stored.
>> Yeah. I think it just gets stored. I
don't think it's like someone's
listening where they can just
>> know every like they have a person with
a [ __ ] earphone on listening to
everything you say. Oh, write it down.
He said this.
>> I think probably high government
officials. They probably do
>> probably. But now with AI, all they
would have to do is record everybody's
phone all the time and then use AI to
search all the transcripts and then find
an audio recording of you saying this or
you saying that.
>> We're probably three years away from
them being able to get everything we've
ever done on the internet.
>> Yeah. But but not just that, there's
also AI which could take that and then
have you make phone calls to people that
you don't really make.
>> Yeah. So you could call up one of your
friends and ask them to meet you
somewhere with a bag of heroin and they
would all, you know, they would know. It
would like literally you could use it to
set people up. You could use it to get
people upset about something. You could
have the AI have a [ __ ] conversation
with them.
>> I mean, I've been listening AI Joe Rogan
ads on the internet for about a year now
where they just take your voice and they
advertise products because you have such
a recognizable voice.
>> That's pretty ridiculous, right? A lot
of people go, "Do you use that?" I go,
"No, it's AI." But the thing is it's
like they can have it talk to you now.
So it sounds like you.
>> Yeah.
>> You could have a conversation with you.
Like you could AI Lewis J. Gomez. You
could talk to Louisis J. Gomez and it
would be like you talking to yourself.
You'd probably lose your mind if you
were skeptical.
>> I did something really dark and sad one
day. I was super high. And my mom died
when I was 22 years old. And then I I
went I prompted chat GPT. I told I told
a bunch of information about my mom and
I was like I want to have a conversation
with my mom on the other side about like
what's going on in my life and my son
and asked me questions and I was like it
was it got very like I got really
emotional way more than you would think.
Like I was it was kind of just a dumb
thing. I was stunned. I was like let's
see where this goes. I was I felt like I
was talking to my mom at the end of it.
>> It was [ __ ] really
>> That's so crazy.
>> Yeah. Really?
>> Here's the thing. If it gets to be a
super intelligence, they program a super
intelligence to behave exactly and talk
exactly like your mom
and then you had conversations with her
like it knows her voice.
>> Yeah, that would be such a [ __ ] If
you're schizophrenic and that starts
happening, that would be the trip. That
would be that would be the that would be
bing, we blew the last fuse.
>> Yeah, that's it, dude.
>> That would be it.
>> Well, for us that's what they're doing
>> for for you and me, right? who we have I
mean thousands and thousands of hours
recorded, right?
>> Oh yeah, they could have us say
anything.
>> Well, not only just say anything like
when I die, I'm assuming the technology,
forget when I die, like forget 40 years
from now. Like in the next few years,
they can just take every opinion I've
had, the way I speak, my thoughts,
everything. And then they can use AI to
not only just replicate what I do, but
go like, well, what would he likely
think, what would he likely say? if you
sort of put all that data in and then
eventually it's like a little [ __ ]
box sitting on the table that my son
talks to. His dad never dies. His dad's
always there. I think that will be a
thing that regularly is happening. You
you
>> and I don't know if it's like uploading
the consciousness or if it's the AI
replicating your consciousness. I think
they've talked about that for a long
time, but that I think will happen
unquestionably.
>> No doubt.
>> Yeah.
>> And soon.
>> Very soon.
>> Well, the AI that they have now, like if
you put on those meta glasses, have you
[ __ ] with that? the VR goggles.
>> Uh, yeah,
>> they're pretty [ __ ]
>> I mean, I just jerk off. That's it. I
just
>> giant vaginas.
>> Well, not No, it's not even a It's um
>> If you have porn with VR, it must be
insane.
>> Oh, it's insane. It is insane.
>> Yeah,
>> I can't watch regular porn anymore.
>> That way. Made me nervous. Creepy.
>> I was looking this up just to see if it
was still a thing. This is a William
Shatner AI. He's sitting here waiting
for us to ask him a question
>> and he'll just answer it in his voice.
>> It's him. He sat there and recorded a
bunch of stuff a couple years ago for
this.
>> Um, I don't know how well it works, but
>> Well, ask him this.
>> This is a little different though. This
isn't So,
>> I mean, this is just the beginning,
though. Like, this is
>> this is the beginning of it. So, once
they But they once they turn they really
turn the AI on this, it'll be like it'll
be a better William Shatner.
>> I mean, it looks uh what? Let's ask him
one random question.
H
um what didn't he have like a make out
session with a green lady on in Star
Trek?
>> I don't know. What was it?
>> I think he did. I think there was like
some weird
>> racial push back. There was some weird
pu Oh, he kissed Ohura. There was He did
make out with an alien. No, no, no.
>> He did make out with an alien, right?
I'm pretty sure he kissed like a a green
lady or something, but he also kissed
Lieutenant O'Hora, who was a black lady.
And during the time where they did Star
Trek, I think this was very
controversial. That's it. So that was in
1968
and this was very controversial that a
white man and a black and by the way,
she was beautiful. That lady that played
Aurora, she's beautiful. And they
thought it was weird. They thought it
was offensive. I mean, it was like it
was a big thing.
>> Yeah.
>> In like the public. I was too young.
Obviously, I was one years old. But I do
remember this story.
>> Remember there was that movie uh Jungle
Fever? It was an entire movie. The
entire premise of the movie was it's
>> a black guy and a white girl.
>> Interracial couple. That's a movie.
That's it.
>> Okay. What is it called? Was the episode
called? Plato's stepchildren season 3
episode 10 November 22nd 1968. Wow. Oh,
played by um Nishelle Nichols and
Captain Kirk, William Shackner. Episode
often cited incorrectly as the first
interracial kiss on television. It was
however the first instance in which a
kiss between a black person and a white
person on US television was ever
scripted. as an earlier kiss on Moving
with Nancy was unscrew. What the [ __ ] is
Moving with Nancy?
What is that?
>> Nancy Sinatra special or something?
>> Nancy kissed a black guy on TV. Is that
what they're saying?
>> That's pissing me off now. I don't know
why.
>> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.
>> Her father was not okay with that.
>> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.
>> Let me check.
>> Yeah, find out what she did. What the
[ __ ] happened?
>> Like a variety show.
>> So, was it like her and just a singer or
something? Was it a show where they
would sing each other? What happened
here?
>> Sammy Davis Jr.
>> Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her. Oh,
that's
>> song and dance.
>> That's kind of with her.
>> That's what it says. They probably look
it up.
>> But, but is that it says an interracial
kiss between
>> between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.?
>> Oh, boy. He kissed he passionately
kissed his friend's daughter.
>> Oh, yeah. Bro, those people were freaks
back then.
>> That's hot.
>> They were freaks.
>> This is it.
>> That brat pack. That rat pack. Those
guys were animals. Look at that. Oh,
that's on the cheek, bro. He kissed her
on the cheek. Zoom in on that. That's
outrageous. That's a nice friendly kiss.
That's not a passionately kissed. Let me
see that. Close in on her. Yeah, he
kissed her on the cheek. Don't you
think?
>> It looks like the cheek.
>> It looks like right here.
>> Yeah. A little side side of the
>> a little That's like a sweet thing.
>> Yeah. Italian men do that to each other.
>> Yeah, that's not a that's not a kiss on
the lips.
>> Yeah,
>> that doesn't count. I say Star Trek's
the first cuz that was like let's get
down.
>> It's so nuts, dude. Yeah. I mean, my uh
my mom my mom was white and my dad was
like Afro Latino, like darkkinned like
uh he looked black, like straight he
looked like Easy E. I was just going to
show you a picture of my dad. It's
crazy. He looks straight up like Easy E.
>> Um and it's like Yeah. I mean that even
in the ' 80s growing up that was kind of
like it was weird. I remember the first
time I saw an interracial couple in high
school. I'm 44. I'm not I'm not that
old. But like it was weird. I remember
just seeing like in like the 10th grade
this like hot white chick started dating
this like football player black kid. It
wasn't that regular where I grew and I
grew up an hour outside of New York
City.
>> Yeah. And it it was controversial. It
would open you up to all sorts of like
you get yelled at by people, you get
attacked. There's a lot of people that
they dealt with a lot of [ __ ] back then,
man.
>> Yeah. Well, racism is back. Don't worry.
>> It kind of never went away. But it's it
comes in waves of encouragement where
people people think like it's okay. It's
okay to be racist. It's okay to be this,
to be that.
>> It was a weird It was a weird thing
where it's like a lot of us were just
being ironic and funny for a while. You
make racial jokes, you make jokes about
anything like that. I I think you could
be make a joke about anything. It's a
comedian's job. Um, and then it like
shifted once like social media became so
like big and everyone's opinion. You can
anonymously just say whatever you want.
Dude, if you wanted to you want to say
something racist anonymously, you had to
write it on a bathroom wall.
>> You have to be like, I hate nwords on
the wall in a marker.
>> And then somebody else responds to it
underneath it and they're like, well, I
hate you cracker. And then it goes it.
>> That was always fun. Like bathroom walls
were fun. Get a phone number. Call this
number. You give your ex-girlfriend's
phone number on the wall.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Yeah. Those those are the days.
>> The original doxing.
>> Well, also those like the the that's the
original message board.
>> Yeah. It's the original YouTube
comments,
>> right? That's the original comments on
an ex post is the bathroom wall.
>> That's it. And that's the only thing
that's as far as it can go was maybe 12
people a day would see your [ __ ]
anonymously. But it felt so good just n
I
>> I can't remember any interracial uh in
high school.
>> I can't remember any of them. Oh no,
one. I do remember one. But I do
remember there's a lot of push back,
man. Like a lot of people were like
openly racist about it.
>> Yeah,
>> it's uh eventually has to go away, but
it's like it's going away in waves. Like
it used to be normal. Like everybody was
racist. The whole world was racist. I
think everyone is bigoted.
>> It's a little different than a little
different than racist, right?
>> Well, everyone was tribal, right? Like
you could only trust the 150 people that
you lived with. You could barely trust
them. You could barely trust them. They
were probably trying to be the tribal
chief and [ __ ] people over and [ __ ] the
chief's wife. That shit's always gone
on. But for sure, if there was a group
that you didn't know and they showed up,
they were there to kill you.
>> Yes.
>> 100%. Yes. A bunch of guys show up,
there's 15 guys. They show up, but
you're they're trying to kill you.
>> Well, also pre- internet, you you had to
coexist, right? You had to the only
people you can communicate with. You go
to the grocery store, it's an Indian guy
or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy.
It's like, "No, I got to buy a tomato.
So, I'm we're just going to do what we
need. I'm going to give you my dollar.
You're going to give me a tomato and I'm
going to say,
>> but this is an America in a city in the
20th century and then the 21st century."
What I'm saying is we're hardwired for
the olden days. Right.
>> This is why it's so easy to get people
to join a team, whether it be a Democrat
or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever
the [ __ ] it is. It's so easy because
people are programmed to be in tribes,
>> right? Yeah. And they want an identity.
>> Yeah. It's it's easier.
>> There's an enemy. They want an enemy,
too.
>> Yep. You have a You feel like you're on
a side. You feel You don't really have
to do much thinking.
>> Exactly.
>> Like whatever Whatever they say, I agree
with
>> gives you comfort that you you're
surrounded by other people. I used to
think that when I was young when I would
watch like religious preachers on
television, I was watching those like
these Islamic guys and they were talking
about Islam and the way the certainty in
the fact that what they were saying was
true. Like the way they were saying like
all these other religions mean nothing
because Islam is the truth. And they
were like, "Yep."
>> They're like they believed it. Like I'm
like it must feel great
>> to believe something 100% like that. You
have a bunch of other people around you
that also believe it.
>> 100% know ifs or buts. And we've all The
reality is no one knows about anything
until you experience it.
>> Yeah.
>> So, you don't really know what's going
to happen in heaven. If heaven's real,
you don't know any of that. No.
>> But you're so convinced.
>> And my question is by what?
>> I wish I had any sort of spiritual
faith.
>> That's what I keep saying. come up with
a good cult. I'll join it.
>> Doggy, I I just can't I what since I was
a little kid, I remember just being a
little kid and think having the thought
God's not real and then trying cuz I was
raised Catholic just suppressing it
being like I can't think that I'm going
to burn in hell if I even think the idea
that God isn't real. It's like a what a
weird psychotic thing to do to like a
5-year-old kid. Yeah. you know, and um
yeah, it's like uh yeah, you you sort of
like that the idea of faith, it it
actually seems like really like kind of
freeing. Like the idea of like, dude,
I'm going to die and I'm going to go to
the kingdom of heaven and I'm going to
experience everything that I've ever
wanted. I mean, that sounds incredible.
I it's for me it's like I feel like I'm
counting down until I'm going to sleep
forever. Like I have nothing after I
really don't believe in any of that.
when people get into like these heated
passionate like debates about certain
things like abortion is a great topic um
for this concept when you're trying to
convince somebody that's religious like
to be pro-life you're like you don't
understand what's going on there dude
they believe you're murdering a baby
you're not going to convince somebody
that like oh well let me let me let me
try to break this down for you right now
let me try to give you a different angle
on this no they they believe that that's
a life at conception they believe it's a
soul they really [ __ ] believe that
deep down
>> and that is like like I kind of go like
I respect that. Like I'm not going to
like I I'm pro-life, right? I I was
raised by by women and I just kind of
grew up in New York. We always sort of
had that sensibility.
>> Do you mean pro-choice? Is that what you
>> I'm sorry. I'm pro-choice. I apologize.
Um but when I my son was born or even
when I first saw the heartbeat, I
remember I was like that's a life right
there. The heartbeat that 6 weeks
whatever it was, I was like that's a
[ __ ] life right there. But when
you're dealing with religious people who
believe that that's a soul and that that
it's like the second it's conceived,
>> you're trying to convince them that it's
okay to kill a baby
>> and it's never going to happen.
>> Yeah. No, it's never going to happen.
And I don't know who's right. That's the
real problem. Like for convenience sake
and for living your life on your own
terms sake. And the see my take on it is
first of all
I'm not a woman and if you're talking
about this and there's no chance of you
ever getting pregnant that's a weird
thing because you like conceptually yeah
that's a life no doubt I mean not even
conceptually objectively that's a life
it's going to become a human
>> but who who like who am I to say
especially in cases of like incest and
rape and you know Crazy [ __ ] Who am I
to say that you have to raise that kid?
That you have to that that life has to
you have to change your body for the
next 9 months. Maybe ir irrevocably. I
mean, maybe it'll just change your body
forever. Maybe you'll have stretch marks
forever.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Because of this, because of this
horrible thing that happened to you.
Because everybody says that this life is
precious. Like
>> every time you got to feed at breakfast,
you got to [ __ ]
>> If that was for men, if men got
pregnant,
abortion would be at gas stations. fill
it up and take it out. It would be
There's not a [ __ ] chance in hell it
would be.
>> That's a bit
>> There's not a chance in hell that it
would be a debate.
>> Yeah.
>> It wouldn't be a debate. If men make the
laws and men could get pregnant, men
would have abortions everywhere.
>> Yeah.
>> There's no [ __ ] chance you'd be able
to tell another man that he's going to
have to keep a baby.
>> No. Yeah. It's it's it's very complex.
And I understand both sides of it, you
know? I really do. I when people say
that's a life you can't it's like I'm
like I really get that and when people
go like it's a woman's body and sort of
right to choose if she wants to eject
this from her body before a certain
time.
>> Um
>> it's the weird thing is like at what
point in time like could you stop it
when it's a clump of cells? Can you stop
it when it's almost a fetus? You know
what I mean? Like it gets it's it's such
a human problem in that there's no
it's it's a weird [ __ ] sloppy
>> I think when it grow when it grows a
nose. Yeah. Before it hits before it
grows a nose or or fingers.
>> It could be a kid. It's going to be a
kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold
medal.
>> If it's got web fingers still,
>> it could be a kid that is Sabrina
Carpenter and is on stage in front of
all those people. You know what I mean?
That's the weird thing about life.
>> It could be somebody that changes the
world.
>> It could be.
>> Literally. Yeah. Yeah. If you look at
like child development like um
monthtomonth, I mean, when my when I my
son was being born, I was like
obsessively like looking at it. It
starts looking like a baby way earlier
than you think. And the problem is you
can still abort it when it looks like a
[ __ ] baby. And that's it's just a
>> Oh, you could abort it when it is a
baby. Oh, yeah. In certain cases.
>> Well, yeah. If it's like medically
>> I knew a guy his girlfriend had a late
term abortion and it was horrible.
>> Jesus.
>> Horrible to know that like she was
showing it was
>> Well, there was that one.
>> This is in the '9s. There was a one
video that went viral a while ago and it
was like they were talking to somebody
in an abortion clinic with like a hidden
cell phone camera and they were like,
"Well, what happens if you abort the
fetus? You remove the fetus and it's
still alive like on the table."
>> Yeah.
>> Um they and they were like, "Well, we
would have to at least extinguish life
or something like that." It was like
pretty [ __ ] crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like so when the baby's out, you're
going to kill the that you're just going
to kill. It's call it what it is. You're
going to kill a baby. It's bonkers.
And that's why like you could understand
why Christians would think that's
demonic.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyone anyone would think that's
demonic.
>> You could totally understand that. And
to ignore that and throw it into this.
No, but I you know I believe in the
woman's right to choose.
>> Okay. Me too. But what's that?
>> Yeah.
>> Like what are we saying here? Like
you're going to just kill the baby when
it's alive outside the womb. Is it
viable? Like could it be grow up and
become one of your friends?
Like what are we doing?
>> Maybe.
>> You know what I'm saying? Could it could
that baby grow up
>> and just live?
>> Yeah. And just have a wonderful life and
have a great job. It's [ __ ] weird,
man. Because like what is life and why?
It's very precious to us because if we
don't have it, then we don't have a say
in what's going on. But we're really
just a [ __ ] bunch of atoms and
particles and molecules and everything
spinning around at a different
frequency. That's what we really are.
Your mushrooms are kicking in, Joe.
>> They're not even just I'm just saying
like we're so obsessed with life.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's why this is such a
fascinating conversation. It's also a
fascinating conversation cuz men can't
get pregnant.
>> It's a weird
>> Well, I think they can, right? They can
carry the baby. We can't get pregnant,
but I think you could.
>> Well, they're talking to transmitter
talking about getting uteruses implanted
in their body and then getting pregnant
and having an abortion. I want to be the
first person to do that,
>> which just shows you how is really
healthy. That's pretty hilarious.
>> Got it.
>> It would be a good bit. It' be something
Steo would do.
>> It really would be. I'm gonna put a baby
in a board it. How [ __ ] great is
that? That's funny.
>> Yeah. He would do it if there wouldn't
be any social push back.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> That That one's, you know, tough.
>> A little bit of a tough one.
>> He almost got tit implants.
>> I know. He told me that.
>> That's crazy.
>> It's nuts.
>> Don't do that.
>> Yeah.
>> Ouch. You going to get your chest carved
open.
>> You get a dick tattooed in his face.
>> Yes. He's insane.
>> Right over his eyebrow.
>> He's a lunatic. It took me like a few
seconds to realize it was a dick, too. I
was like, "Okay." Last time I saw you,
you didn't have that, right?
>> Yeah. He's a He's a [ __ ] wild one.
Um,
>> that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO
scientist thing, is there anything to
that? Do we No.
Why don't you uh throw that into our ad
or uh sponsor Perplexity?
>> What does it say?
>> Uh, it's obviously an online link,
>> right? But I mean, the White House is
investigating
>> that they're bringing it up. They're
investigated because so many people are
asking about it.
>> Oh, that's it's that easy.
>> Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a
dick.
Can you imagine if the White House is
like we have an unprecedented number of
people asking this question? It's our
duty to do the work for the American
people.
>> They do. Why? They all had a like
security clearance and all happened to
work in similar fields like nuclear
fision fusion.
>> Okay. So what ties the 11 together? Many
have recently clearances or indirect
access to s sensitive government work
often via NASA, the Department of
Energy's, nuclear labs, the Air Force,
or major defense contractors. Their
deaths or disappearances occurred
between 2022 and early 2026, clustered
enough in time to draw political and
media attention. The White House has
ordered agencies such as FBI, NASA, the
Department of Energy, and the Department
of War to perform link analysis to see
if there's any pattern beyond
coincidence.
So, one of them was real weird where
there was like a lady who was hiking and
she was with a bunch of friends. Her
friend turned around and asked her a
question. She talked to her and then she
turned around again and she was gone.
And they have no idea what happened.
They never found a body. They brought
the dogs in. The dogs couldn't find her.
Just gone.
>> That's it.
>> But here's my question. If I was her and
I thought that they were trying to whack
me and I was going hiking with my
friends and I was at the back of the
line, that's where I'd be if I was going
to make a run for it, right? If I
thought all these people were bringing
me up there, these [ __ ] fellow
scientists to chuck me off the cliff. I
might be in the back and then I might,
if I'm paranoid, maybe I ate an edible
before I went on this hike to be a
little closer to nature and I'd look at
that person in front of me. I'm like,
I'm going to wait until they turn that
right around that turn and I'm [ __ ]
>> Homer Simpson into the bushes
>> and then she just [ __ ] booked it down
that hill and hopped in her car, got a
Uber waiting for disappeared.
case you're thinking of is Monica
Jasinto Raza, 60-year-old aerospace
engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and
Advanced Rocket Engine Materials
Research. She disappeared on June 22nd,
2025 while hiking in the Angeles
National Forest, Los Angeles County, on
a welltraveled trail. I know where that
place is. I've been to that spot.
Reports say she was hiking with at least
one friend companion. The friend was
roughly 30 ft ahead, turned to check on
her, saw her smile, and waved that she
was fine. Then a short time later,
looked back again, and she was gone.
Despite intensive searches, no confirmed
trace of her has been found, and her
case is now one of the central examples
of missing or dead scientist cluster
being reviewed by federal agencies.
>> Yeah, that's weird.
>> She disappeared. She She was like, "Fuck
She saw all these other scientists being
murdered and she was like, "I'm out."
>> Right. Cuz if you were a scientist,
you'd probably be paying attention to
other scientists getting whacked.
>> Oh yeah. On the same projects.
>> Especially if somebody started talking.
>> You're in an empty office.
>> You're in the You're in the coffee
station and someone's like, "Do you hear
what happened to Ted?" Ted's dead.
>> He shot himself twice.
>> From long range.
>> Wait a minute. Anti-gravity Ted.
Anti-gravity Ted. He's dead.
>> He killed He killed himself with a
sniper rifle. It was pretty crazy.
>> Get the [ __ ] out of here. Yeah,
>> I'm going hiking with Monica. I don't
[ __ ] trust Monica.
>> [ __ ] that.
>> Monica's trying to kill you.
>> I don't trust
>> She's out there hiking and Monica turns
and waves at her.
>> I don't trust hiking. She was probably
[ __ ] killed by a bear or a mountain
lion.
>> You could get you could get got.
>> That's crazy. I don't
>> My friend Cam, his um brother almost got
killed by a mountain lion and had this
crazy story about it. And he's a like a
distance runner. He's one of those
ultramarathon guys. Yeah. and his
brother told this video about like what
had happened to him. He was running down
the road and it was like dusk out, like
starting to get dark and he saw these
eyes, these glowing eyes in the bushes
and he yelled at it cuz he thought it
was a coyote and it stands up and it's a
[ __ ] mountain lion. And so then it
starts chasing him and he goes, "I
couldn't have used pepper spray because
if I did, I would have sprayed myself
cuz it was that close."
>> Wow.
>> He goes, "I yelled at it. I kicked rocks
at it. It kept And he goes, "I just
ran." He goes, "I think the thing that
might have saved me was a bunch of dogs
were barking."
>> Wow.
>> And it might have thought the dogs were
out there.
>> You're not out running a mountain lion.
>> No.
>> No.
>> It was It was running behind him, but
not like 100% committed to killing him
yet.
>> Wow. That's scary.
>> Yeah. Nature's [ __ ] scary. And people
like, "We need to make an overpass in
Los Angeles near these homes so the
mountain line can get across the [ __ ]
track." No. Any [ __ ] mountain line
that goes across the 405 should get
obliterated. That's That's nature.
That's nature. Hey, you thought that
[ __ ] semi wasn't dangerous, you
[ __ ] cat. That's a [ __ ] cat. Yes,
it is. that that cat probably his
brother [ __ ] his sister and that's
that's how he was born and now he's a
dumbass and he's supposed to get taken
out by a Subaru.
>> Did you ever see that? They uh it was
like all these inbredad tigers.
>> Yeah. Oh, white tigers.
>> Yeah, dude. And they were all like
[ __ ] goofy.
>> They have one at the Austin Zoo.
>> [ __ ] tigers.
>> We went to visit the Austin Zoo and you
looked at them like, "Hey,
>> their tongues are hanging out."
>> Yeah, they're goofy looking. A bunch of
those white ones are are inbred because
that's a weird like genetic thing, I
guess, to have a white one.
>> Cute, though. I I took my son to that uh
Tiger, not the Tiger King, but it was
the other guy, the ones who's in jail
for tax evasion now. Um
>> Tiger King's in jail for murder, right?
>> Yeah. No, no, no. The It was one of the
guys,
>> not for murder, but for like trying to
get someone murdered.
>> The other guy, what the [ __ ] his name?
He was one who had all the girlfriends.
>> Oh, the guy who ran the little cult. A
little cult going on.
>> Yeah, dude. I brought my son there and
it was him, dude. He came out when they
presented the elephant. It was um Why am
I blanking on his name?
>> Doc.
>> Doc Antel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He brought the elephant out
himself. It was Dude, it was such a fun
show. Like there was like a half day. It
was like four or five hours.
>> He went to jail for what?
>> Tax evasion.
>> Ah, these [ __ ] pay your taxes,
people.
>> It's the dumbest way to get got.
>> Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, and while Yeah.
moneyaundering char I'm sorry.
Moneyaundering.
>> Moneyaundering.
>> Yeah. Wildlife trafficking and
moneyaundering. That's a lot different
than not paying your tax.
>> They have all of these baby tigers that
they bring out, but they only have like
two adult tigers. So, what are they
doing with these baby tigers?
>> Whoa, well, go back to that.
>> Hold on. Make that larger. What does it
say here? It says 12 months for pleading
guilty for in a conspiracy to violate
the Lacy Act and launder more than
$500,000 for what he believed to be an
operation to smuggle illegal immigrants
into the United States across the Mexico
border. Oh, this is a lot different than
that. Like he was getting illegal
immigrants across the border for money.
>> He was Yeah, he was sh
>> That's crazy. So that's not just like
wildlife stuff and taxes. Like this guy
was like illegal immigrant trafficking.
>> Yeah, this guy was a bad
>> Wow.
>> a bad dude probably. But he did have he
had a bunch of like a sweet cult going
on.
>> Young hot chicks. I met a I knew a girl
that I dated who went and interviewed
and she was like it felt like I was
interviewing for porn. She I showed up
and it was like oh no. The other girls
were like oh you're going to have to
like be a part of this.
>> Yeah.
>> Well the thing about this guy
>> but for a baby tiger dude I got to be
honest with you. They're really cute.
>> They're adorable.
>> I get it. Women are so [ __ ] dumb.
They're like baby tigers I'll suck his
dick. Fine.
>> Well I think they just want to belong to
something. And this guy comes along and
he's charismatic and you belong to his
little family. Family of five girls.
They're all hanging out together blowing
this one fat guy.
>> I mean,
>> smuggling Mexicans and murdering baby
tigers.
>> Well, that's the thing about those kind
of guys. This is why I was going to say
about the the smuggling in the Mexicans.
Those kind of guys are never happy
>> with whatever they've gotten away with.
They always want to keep pushing. Yeah.
You know, he was not happy that he's an
ugly guy with a cult, you know, of of
hot chicks and tigers.
>> Yeah. You're a millionaire. You have
tigers and hot chicks. That's all you
need.
>> You're in a TV show. You're good. You're
good. You don't have to smuggle in the
Mexicans, too. But those kind of guys
are always They just can't stop pushing.
>> Yeah.
>> Can't stop pushing.
>> Yeah. I think Yeah. It's whatever it is,
you you whatever level it is, you always
want to level up no matter what.
>> No matter what.
>> Bobby Kelly said that to me about
Louisie back in the day. He was like,
uh, you know, because we all we're all
everyone's insecure comedian. Everyone
in New York's insecure. Everyone in LA
and Austin, you guys [ __ ] you guys
are you guys [ __ ] love life. You're
just living life to your fullest.
Everyone in New York is like, I'm going
to kill myself. I hate [ __ ] life. It
sucks.
>> I think it's the environment.
>> Yeah. Well, it's a rough city. It's a
really rough city.
>> It's a great city. It's awesome.
>> Cities in general is a weird concept.
Shoving a bunch of people way too close
to each other
>> for long periods of time. It has an
effect.
>> It's also like uh it's just a it's a
rough city, dude. It's even when even
like the highest level, like if you're
doing well
>> Yeah. You still got to [ __ ] walk up
those subway stairs and it's just like
just hot air in the summertime down if
you try to take the subway or
>> you know sitting in New York traffic or
just like crazy homeless people walking
around. You got to like really want to
be there to stand it. I I did it for 20
years. I moved to the suburbs during the
pandemic. Um and I I love New I still
love New York. I go to New York a few
times a week still. But it is uh it is
definitely a young man's city where you
got to like you got to be there to like
I'm trying to become the best comic or a
dancer, work on Wall Street or whatever
it is. Like
>> that's true. But I know a lot of old
people that love it too, man. They'll
never leave. They love it.
>> The life they love the energy. There's
just people around them all the time.
There's something going on everywhere
you look. You can get food at 3:00 in
the morning. You could
>> I mean, as far if you're a city person
like Ari.
>> Yeah.
>> It there's no place like New York City.
>> Ari spends I don't even know how much on
rent, but probably $50,000 a month for a
room where you can touch all the walls.
>> Yeah. It's crazy. It's stupid. It's
stupid. And now if you're rich and you
own property and you don't stay there,
they're going to they're going to tax
you more. There's a new thing that Mom
Donnie just came out with and everyone's
like, "Yeah, [ __ ] the billionaires."
Like,
>> okay, [ __ ] the billionaires until it's
[ __ ] the thousands.
>> It's all it's not even just
billionaires. Like, we're talking about
you don't have to be particularly
wealthy to own property. Like, it's a
good investment with the money that you
have,
>> right? But this particular bill is about
more than $5 million valued homes.
>> Okay? So, if you have an apartment in
New York City, it's worth more than $5
million. You get taxed more.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's like saying it won't be that
big a deal and it will it'll give the
city $500 million in in extra revenue
that they could use for all kinds of
things that they want to do,
>> which is great if you've cut out all the
fraud,
>> but you haven't. And so, you're not even
concentrating on the fraud. You're not
even admitting the fraud exists. You're
not even admitting the waste exists.
>> Yeah. How about you tell us where all
the money to NOS's went? How about you
tell us that? How about you tell us
where all the homeless money went? What'
you spend it on? There's all these
homeless people. It seems like no,
someone didn't do a good job and got a
lot of money. What happened? And you
want more money? That's a crazy answer.
>> And it's also like the idea that rich
people are inherently like privileged.
It's very bizarre. Like I'm not rich,
but I do pretty well. Like I do I do
better than you know much better than
the average American financially you
know um a lot of people would consider
me you know pretty well to do but like I
grew up welfare drug addict mother dad's
dad when I was four years old I had to
[ __ ] I spent 15 years doing comedy
making zero dollars investing into this
thing to hopefully one day on the other
side of it be able to reap the benefits
of it. So now that I've finally broken
through the other side you're like oh
well no you don't deserve all that
money. We deserve some of that money.
That's crazy.
>> Yeah. There's a weird concept in this
country and it's because of the
billionaire class. So there's a level of
the game where they've passed so far.
See if everybody only got this is like
what people would like to say, you know,
being a millionaire is fine. Nobody
should be a billionaire. We should have
a cap on wealth. The problem with that
is you're going to also have a cap on
motivation.
>> Yeah.
>> So a lot of these people psychopaths. A
lot of these people that run these
corporations are [ __ ] psychopaths and
they work 16 hours a day, seven days a
week. And the only reason why they do
that is because they know that they can
make a hundred billion dollars if they
do that.
>> And if you stop that, you're going to
stop iPhones. You're you're not going to
have Lenovo laptops. You're not going to
have any of these things. If you if
that's where it's weird for people, like
you're not going to have an Amazon
unless you have a guy who's a
billionaire. Like it's not going to See,
the thing is No, it's not fair. You're
right. It's not fair. And here's the
thing. Would it be fair? It is fair.
Kind of fair. Life is kind of fair in a
weird way.
>> Oh, please. Depending on how you treat
your employees.
>> Okay.
>> That's where we decide whether or not
it's fair.
>> So, you're saying that Amazon doesn't
treat their employees well? I hear that
a lot.
>> I hear that a lot, too. I don't know if
it's true, but what I do know is that
there's a lot of [ __ ] complaints. And
if there's a lot where there's smoke,
probably some fire. I know that there's
like some efficiency things where you
have like a clock ticks off like if you
order a [ __ ] a box of legal pads.
Yeah.
>> You know those little notebooks you have
to this guy has to get that in the box
in like 30 seconds or whatever the [ __ ]
it is. So he has to run around like
people are literally like moving quickly
around the warehouse.
>> Yeah. They're like you hear stories and
once again you have to take everything
with a grain of salt. Like employees
become bitter sometimes. You know what
I'm saying? Like most people hate their
boss.
>> True. But that job does sounds like it
sucks and it sounds like you're asking
people to run around because you want to
make the most money possible, but you're
paying them not that great. Like that's
a weird one because you're also setting
up the inevitable, which is robots
>> because they're going to be able to do
that way easier and quicker. They're
going to know exactly where the product
is. They're not going to have to look on
their [ __ ] little iPad. They're going
to know exactly where it is. They're
going to go right to it, package it.
They're going to print out
instantaneously.
>> They're never going to the bathroom,
never leak. They don't need food. Nope.
They never complain.
>> You're [ __ ] no matter what because
they're going to lay off a bunch of
people. There's no if ends or buts.
>> Oh, yeah. That that that is going to be
really effective. You're talking about
like how AI and robots are going to like
affect certain industries driving, you
know, factory workers, things like that.
That's all just going away.
>> Yeah. That's the real threat to your
job, not the billionaires. But the thing
is, like you see a guy, whether it's
like Elon Musk or someone like I think
Elon's supposedly worth like 800 billion
now, and people just get really angry.
They really get upset. Like, and think
about how much that would help if he
gave his money away. And I get what
you're saying, but the problem is give
the money away to who? Give the money
away to the people that have [ __ ] up
the money that we've already given them.
Like, you got to be honest about, look,
the idea is great. Wouldn't it be
wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away a
hundred billion dollars and we
completely fixed all poverty and
homelessness is gone. No more food
problems. everyone. No starvation on
earth.
>> The idea that throwing money at homeless
people is just going to fix the problem.
>> Exactly.
>> I mean, I'm Believe me, I I have
empathy. I'm not going like, "Oh, [ __ ]
the homeless." I I don't have that
attitude at all. But at the same time,
it's like
>> wherever you go, there you are.
>> The idea of giving the government money
to fix things.
>> Oh, that's crazy. That's insane. That's
actually If you ever try to try to go to
a government building, you you see the
inefficiency. If you just try to call to
get some information about your taxes,
if you try to call the IRS, you see the
inefficiency. You're like, there's no
[ __ ] way, dude. And it's just
honestly, it's designed to be that way.
It's designed to be really intricate and
difficult, and there's a lot of people
that have to get paid. So, it's like
that. And that's I was so excited about
Elon and Trump getting together and and
doing the um Doge.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Doge. I was like, what a
great idea. Two real brilliant business
minds trying to figure out government
efficiency and trying to save us money.
I was like, they're going to do it. And
of course, nothing happened. Well, some
things happened. A lot of things did get
shut down. And it also opened up a lot
of people's eyes to the understanding of
what an NGO is and where the money goes.
And when people found out how many NOS's
there are and how much money gets spent,
they're like, "Wait, wait, wait, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we get an
accounting of this stuff?" Like, this
sounds nuts. There's so much money
that's being sent out to these
nonprofits and these organizations.
Like, did you see hear when Spencer
Pratt was on the podcast?
>> No, I didn't. he's running for mayor of
New York or excuse me of Los Angeles.
And one of the things that he was
talking about
>> was the fire aid. Like so the money that
they generated over $und00 million was
generated uh for the people that lost
their homes in the Pacific Palisades
fire.
>> All of it went to these NOS's
>> like it went to he said what did he say
20 different how many different 200
different
>> I think it was 200 different
>> Yeah. 200 different nonprofits got the
money that was supposed to go to the
houses, the people that lost their
house.
>> Yeah.
>> Hundred million dollars and they just
divvied it up.
>> And how much of that money? 20% goes to
actual people. The rest is
>> they don't even know how many people are
getting benefit from it.
>> Yeah. It's I mean if you there's like
lists of like charities and nonprofits
and how what the percentage is that
actually goes to insane. They divided up
between 200 different nonprofits. How
about give it to the people? Yeah.
>> Because the thing about these
nonprofits, they rely on that kind of
money in order to pay their staff. And
some of these, you find out some of
these people that are working for these
government agencies, is another thing
that Spencer has uncovered. There's like
a a ton of them that are making more
than a half a million dollars a year.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, yeah.
But there's a weird thing with like the
nonprofits like all right if you if you
have to attract like a CEO from like a
major corporation to come and make this
nonprofit efficient and to really
generate as much revenue as possible.
Like if they're making more money
because they have a really competent CEO
and a really competent staff and only
20% of it is going to help people, but
it's still 200% of what the next
company's doing. I guess it's it's worth
it, right?
>> Well, the thing is they're not a
company. They're the government. So,
they're not held accountable. They're
they're not supposed to be efficient.
They don't they don't have to be
profitable. They don't have to do like a
good audit of their business. This is
one of the things that Elon said, if any
of these [ __ ] companies, he's like,
if any one of them that like where they
just sent out billions of dollars and
they have no accounting and no receipts
for it,
>> he goes, if you were a part of a
publicly traded company, you would be
tried. You would your company would lose
its credit. Yeah. Your your company
would fall off the stock market. it it
would be like a [ __ ] company now and
you would go to jail
>> like you that's totally illegal but in
government it's standard practice so the
the in inefficiency is built in I was
reading something about California tell
me if this is true they were talking
about California's see put this into
perplexity California the percentage of
people that live in California went up
by a small amount but the percentage of
government went up by a large amount
>> there's the percentage of people with
government jobs
>> went up considerably whereas the
population didn't go up. I don't know if
this is true. This is why I want to have
it looked up. But
>> when you just stop and think about the
fact that it's a business to hire people
to be inefficient and that it's within
your best interest to not just never be
efficient and never solve the problem
because if you do, you're out of a job,
but also to make the problem bigger
every year so you could hire more people
and get a bigger raise and a bigger
thing. And that's why
this homeless thing in California. It's
like more than $24 billion they spent on
the homeless
>> on what though? What are they doing?
>> Exactly. What are they
>> exactly? So, they've tried to get audits
and Newsome has vetoed the audits.
>> Wow.
>> Which is crazy that they could say no,
you can't find out if any fraud or any
waste has happened with tax dollars. No,
we're going to stop that investigation.
>> Well, that's crazy. Yeah. And that
that's So there I would vote for almost
anybody who if they just said I'm going
to cut your taxes in half, they have my
vote.
>> The problem is what are you doing with
the taxes there should if AI has a role
in solving this? What AI should be able
to do it's like we should say yeah you
tax me a fair amount. I'm happy to pay
taxes if I'm if it's going to public
schools and public roads. I absolutely
feel very happy to contribute and I want
the world to be a better place because
of my tax dollars. But also,
where's it going?
>> Yeah, it's going to
>> Where's it going?
>> Bomb school children overseas and to
>> fund wars that most people don't want.
So,
>> and transgender dancing in Indonesia.
Like,
>> is that a thing that's happening?
>> Oh, there's weird [ __ ] They spent $250
million doing uh transsexual operations
on animals.
Experimenting on animals to turn them
trans. No, no, no [ __ ] No [ __ ]
250. I think it was $251 million. Oh my
god. Yeah, they spent $2 million giving
cocaine to dogs. California's population
has dipped slightly since 2020 while
government jobs have been one of the few
areas of job growth. So yes, government
employee employment has generally
increased even as the population growth
stalled or reversed. So what is the
percentage? So total job growth has
slowed sharply. Statewide employment
grew by uh only about half of a percent
in 2023, then actually fell slightly
down about 100 uh 11,200 jobs or 0.1% in
2025. State overall is only a few% in
jobs compared with before the pandemic
and it lags the national growth rate. So
how many more jobs? What's the
percentage more? I think that's more
>> Is it because people are leaving
California?
>> So it says in 2025 private employers
there's a lot of that cut about 31,000
jobs while government employers added
about 20,200
jobs driven mostly by a gain of 45,800
local government positions. So they
added 45,000 government positions while
private employers cut 31,000 jobs.
So they just keep making the government
bigger. So the economy
>> Yeah.
>> fuels the government. The government
controls the economy. It's all nuts.
>> Yeah. When I mean when you say
government job, that's like people like
a clerk that works in like the
courthouse. That also counts, right?
>> They Yeah. But they also do weird [ __ ]
like they have to have new regulations.
They have to have people that make
regulations now and justify their jobs
if there's a lot of government jobs. So
then you get wacky rulings like
California recently they're banning
blackjack in casinos. No more blackjack.
>> Why not blackjack?
>> Putting a foot down. No more blackjack
in River City.
>> Why? Why no blackjack? I don't
understand it.
>> No one understands it. It doesn't make
any [ __ ] sense. You can play poker.
You can't play blackjack. How about [ __ ]
you stay away from me.
>> Yeah. How about if I earn uh $2,000 in a
week and I want to take $500 and go to
the casino and try to win more or lose
it. How about [ __ ] you, you leave me the
[ __ ] alone. You're just another human
being. You should have no opinion.
>> Well, they want to The government wants
to get their hands in every vice because
they know they know we can't we can't
give up our vices. We can't give up
alcohol and weed and cigarettes and
gambling and prostitution.
>> They're not getting rid of gambling.
That's the thing. They're still paying
the casinos still pay taxes, right?
>> You just eliminated one of their [ __ ]
ways to make money.
>> Is there Is there a public reason why
they've said it?
>> I'd like to find out.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's find out what What's the public?
>> Blackjack is my only game.
>> That's it. That's
>> Do you know what you're doing or you're
a wild [ __ ] who hits 17?
>> No, I'm good. I'm good at blackjack. I
mean, I'm good. I'm I know the rules of
the book and I play by the rules and I I
sit down at the table expecting to lose
everything and if I don't, I'm happy.
That's that.
>> Yeah. Jamie wants some money. Shane
wants some money.
>> Blackjack. Yeah, they were doing pretty
good. The watching Dana White do it is
gives you [ __ ] anxiety though, dude.
>> Just like crazy bets.
>> He was $600,000 down when I met him
there.
>> I was like, dude, this is crazy. And I
was watching these people. That kid
Aiden Ross, you know, that streamer kid,
that kid lost a million bucks. I'm just
like, lost a million. Like, how much is
he making?
>> I take $500 out every time.
>> According to this was banned from card
rooms, not casinos. That's kind of a
different thing.
>> Oh, that's right. It is a card room
where they play poker. That's right.
>> Cuz their casinos are different. Their
casinos are only like in uh
>> And that's what this whole thing
>> Indian places, right? It says this whole
>> reservations. Yeah. Same the same thing
in Jersey, New York. Yeah.
>> The '9s.
>> So that's right. But what is Wait a
minute. What's the Bicycle Club casino?
Isn't that a casino?
>> I don't know who runs it,
>> but it's on It's in California. Like
it's in like Orange County. Bicycle Club
Casino.
So, uh, the reason why I know about that
place is I used to go there to watch
professional pool tournaments.
And then I that was the first time I
realized like, oh, there's a casino in
California, like right off the highway.
I think it's off what what highway is
that off of?
But it's like if you're going down to
like do a gig in San Diego, you'll
you'll pass by this place if you go down
one of the roads.
>> 710.
>> 710. Yeah. There you go.
But uh so what is that? Did do they have
blackjack there? Because I know they had
poker there. You know, Ari Shafir during
his uh early days of comedy would make a
living going to poker tournaments.
>> Playing.
>> Yeah, that's how good he is at poker.
>> Really?
>> Oh yeah, man. He would snap off poker
tournaments all the time.
>> Some people are good. I like it's just a
patience thing.
>> Well, he just plays it like for him it
was a job. He's like I play it like it's
a job. He's like, "These people all get
drunk and they all get high and they're
all [ __ ] stupid. They make dumb
choices." He goes, "I I play smart
against idiots and they get drunk and I
win money."
>> It says it's technically a poker card
room, but this says they have blackjack,
but maybe they fell in the rules where
they're not allowed to have it now, too.
I don't.
>> Right. Three card poker and bakarat. We
were talking about Bakarat the other day
because that's what Dana White's moved
to because you get more money.
>> Is that like uh It's kind of like
blackjack but no, I'm thinking of the
Asian one. What's the Asian move? I have
no idea what Bakarat
>> It's three cards you got to get.
>> How many cards is Bakarat?
>> I have no idea how to play it. I don't
know what it is. I've just heard it
before.
>> Yeah,
>> I've heard that name before. I've never
looked into it.
>> Yeah. I I mean, I look at it as like
going to uh like I don't like baseball,
but like I go to a baseball game and eat
hot dogs and drink beer. It's like the
same thing as casino. Like I'm not a big
gambler. I'm like I'm just going to
drink and I'm going to have fun, hang
out with a chick. Like
>> it just seems like you can't win.
>> No.
>> And it's also what are you doing? What
are you doing? just rolling dice every
day. That's crazy. That's a You're
spiking your adrenaline every day,
rolling dice for your [ __ ] mortgage.
>> Yeah, it's just a It's just a It's a
game with stakes. We
>> Bakarat is a comparing card game play
between two hands. The player and the
banker. Each Bakarat coup uh round of
play has three possible outcomes.
Player, player has the higher score,
banker, and tie.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. They like it cuz you you it's a
one quick bet and you can bet up to 500k
per hand, I think. And then you can also
tie so you don't lose. It's not going to
win or lose.
>> Oh my god.
>> Big swings. Big swings. Big fast swings.
>> Jesus.
>> If you get down No, but I watch people
play these games and go.
>> Look, I admire their balls.
>> Especially poker players. Like, you got
to be a smart [ __ ] to to win
those big World Series of poker things,
make a bunch of money playing poker.
Yeah, that's was uh one of my favorite
scenes from Rounders where they they
talk about how uh I always use that like
analogy in life where they talk about um
people like oh they think it's luck.
They think that you know it's the luck
of the the draw and it's like if it was
about if it was luck why is it the same
eight guys at the final table of the
World Series of Poker every single year.
>> Exactly.
>> It's like you're not playing the cards,
you're playing the game, you're playing
each other. I kind of like look at that
like in life and I'm like it's like the
cards don't really matter as much as how
you play them, you know?
>> Yeah. Yeah, it's a complicated game.
It's And but why is that okay but
blackjack isn't? Like who [ __ ] says
like says who? Says who? Why? Why? You
know what I mean? Why? Why more
regulations? I'll tell you why. Because
they have to justify all these [ __ ]
extra jobs.
>> That's a lot of where regulations come
from. And it's also there it's fun. You
could tell people what to do. No more
flavored zins.
>> Yeah. There's like all these like just
like weird things that don't like
there's like weird laws. So, I live in
Bergen County, New Jersey, and it's like
um they have blue laws still. I don't
know if you know what that is.
>> Oh, yeah. Those are the best. Sunday
>> Sunday, no like no, you can't buy
clothes. You can't buy like furniture.
>> You can't buy clothes.
>> Can't buy clothes on Sundays.
>> Walmart.
Walmart.
>> What if you [ __ ] your pants? Are you new
to town?
>> You're [ __ ] You got to walk around
and smell like [ __ ]
But Walmart in uh New Jersey, they rope
off the clothing section. They have it
set up to where like you literally can't
go past it. You still buy food, but you
can't go to the clothing section.
>> When I was a kid, um there was no
alcohol for sale in Sundays on in uh
Massachusetts.
>> Yeah.
>> And so we had to go to New Hampshire to
get beer. So we'd make a what we call a
pachy run because they would call them
package stores and you know with that
Boston accent, mush, you want to go to
the pachy and we have to drive.
>> Everybody was mush. There was a there
was a time there was this was a Newton
North thing and people from
Massachusetts I think maybe people still
use this but they would call instead of
dude it would be mush mush everybody was
mush mush we going mush we going out
like girls would say it to you mush you
taking me out it was weird and it's only
this one part of the city had mush like
my part didn't have mush but a few
people tried it out it started catching
on with my part of the city but in
Newton North I was in Newton South
Newton North everybody was mush. It was
like everybody's nick. It was weird like
a a virus of like language went through
the entire city.
>> Dude, thick of thick accents from like
certain American cities on women just so
unattractive.
>> That's a rough one. Boston got really
hot to bypass that accent.
>> Philly. You meet a girl from Philly.
>> A rough one.
>> Hard girls, but probably a lot of fun.
>> Oh yeah.
>> So we would we'd have to drive to New
Hampshire. So we take we'd have to drive
an hour and a half to go get booze.
>> Yeah. No, that that exists in certain
places still. In New Jersey it's like
you can't Yeah. It's got to be a liquor
store specifically. You can't buy beer
in a supermarket. I grew up in in the
suburbs in New York, so you could buy
beer in the supermarket.
>> Made it where you couldn't buy wine for
a while. Then for a couple years, you
could buy wine. It's all these dumb
[ __ ] laws.
>> They're all Chick-fil-A laws.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But
>> Chick-fil-A is so silly. They take
Sundays off for the Lord.
>> Like, bro, you're grinding chickens up
with titanium and aluminum in it. Like,
what the [ __ ] are you talking about?
>> Yeah. But it's good. Delicious.
>> It's [ __ ] delicious.
>> God damn, it's delicious.
>> If you make a del if you just make a
delicious sandwich, I don't care what
your beliefs are.
>> It's so delicious that even gay people
eat there. Think of that.
>> Yeah.
>> All the [ __ ] that guy's talked about the
gays. The gay people are like, "Put it
aside and have some chicken.
>> Whatever.
>> The chicken.
>> He's just a bitch."
>> But they got What is that weird
ingredient that we found out was in the
uh the bread?
>> It was something kooky, right?
>> Yeah. It's aluminum something or other,
but it's in a lot of things.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's in
there.
>> It's in there.
>> I've seen something about the blue lot.
You can't buy a car on Sunday in Texas.
>> That's hilarious.
>> That's wild. Yeah. It's so weird.
>> Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense.
>> What's funny is there so there's a mall
in New Jersey. The mall not Mall
American
Dream Mall. Huge huge huge mall. Like
one of these like super malls, right?
Like you know [ __ ] there's a water
park inside. There's a there's a
>> water park. Okay. There's a ski
>> um you can learn skiing. It's like a
fake ski hill. A Snow Hill.
>> Yes. Year year round. You can take ski
and snowboard lessons.
>> Oh, that would help so much.
>> It's so cool, dude. It's It's really
cool. They got like, you know, a bunch
of escape rooms. It's just a massive
massive mall. Yeah, it is. That's nuts.
>> Yeah. Inside, dude. They got a water
park. They got a Nickelodeon studios.
There's like a theme park inside of the
mall. It's a crazy mall. And they just
said, "Fuck it. We're opening Sundays."
>> There's a big sign right on the side of
it's like, "We're open Sundays. We don't
care." And Pamis uh is suing them.
Paramis is one of the biggest shopping
cities in the country, I believe.
Imagine the government is saying you
can't do business with a bunch of people
that want to come to your business.
>> Crazy
>> because it's a different day.
>> Yep.
>> [ __ ] you.
>> What was funny is it's not the
government. I looked into this cuz I was
going like, "What the [ __ ] going on
here?"
>> The people, all these old [ __ ] people
that have been living in this community
forever, they it goes to a vote and
every year they go, "No, no, no. We
don't want traffic. We want Sundays in
Bergen County to be [ __ ] relaxing and
nice and beautiful because there's no
taxes." I think, but I believe to this
day on clothing there's no taxes in
Jersey. So, we would do our school
shopping in Jersey when I was growing
up. We would just drive 30 minutes to to
Bergen County and go to the mall.
>> Um, and you save money on taxes. Um, so
yeah, but uh yeah, that that mall was
just like, [ __ ] it. And then a huge
sign. I'm talking about like the mall's
so big. The sign I don't even like I
don't even know how you would make a
sign this [ __ ] big, but it's just
draped down the sign. We're down the
side. We're open on Sundays. They don't
give a [ __ ]
>> So, are they getting sued now? They're
being sued by Pramis.
>> I bet they're going to win. This doesn't
make sense. That law is stupid. Do you
need business? Yes. Is the economy down?
Yes. Wouldn't it be better if people had
the option to be able to go to the
[ __ ] mall on Sunday? Especially
somebody who works every [ __ ] day and
maybe they have to work Saturday as well
and Sunday's their only day off. How
about let them go there to buy some
pants?
>> Y [ __ ] control freak.
>> Let him buy a [ __ ] hat. What's wrong
with you, you [ __ ]
>> We're the government. We got guns. You
can't shop here. [ __ ] you, man.
>> That's the problem is the problem is
these [ __ ] [ __ ] just keep adding
more and more regulations.
>> Yeah,
>> it's dumb.
>> What else can't you do in Texas on
Sunday?
>> Uh,
>> what was that one that was dumb that you
just said?
>> Can't buy a car. Can't buy a car.
>> The thing was you couldn't buy You
couldn't sell things on consecutive
weekend days, so everybody just sort of
picked Saturday, it says.
>> Huh. That's ridiculous.
>> You can't buy liquor on Sundays here.
>> Phil in Texas. Yeah,
>> you can in a restaurant, but not at a
store.
>> So, at the supermarket, what do they do?
They say, "We can't sell you that cuz
it's Sunday."
>> You can
>> It's the Lord's day. We can't sell We
could sell you beer. You could drink
yourself to death on some hooch. They
give you some wine.
>> Like, you go to one city, it's like the
like it's so strict. Then you go to like
New Orleans and like they're like they
just have like people will hand you a
beer at a window. You just walk down the
street, you're partying in the streets.
like it's such a weird like
differentiation between like each
jurisdiction.
>> Yeah. We were doing a gig down there and
the guy uh who was a driver, he was
telling me about how uh he went
somewhere else and the cops pulled him
over because he had an open drink and he
was walking down the street and he and
the the guy goes, "Where are you from?"
And he goes, "Norand." And he's like,
"Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't do that
anywhere else." Like that thing that you
>> do in Vegas,
>> can you you watch the beer?
>> Okay, that's good. I think you could do
it on Sixth Street in Austin. Can you? I
think No, you can.
>> No.
>> I think people do it.
>> People definitely do it.
>> They definitely do it. I've seen them.
>> Yeah. I don't think you're allowed to.
>> Well, is there any enforcement of that
law?
>> That's probably not the main thing
they're worried about. I don't think
most days.
>> Boy, a lot of sloppy fights on Sixth
Street. There's a there's entire YouTube
and Instagram pages dedicated to Sixth
Street fights.
>> Just brutal. I saw I saw one I don't
know if it was Six Street, but I saw one
where was a dude who obviously had like
wrestling experience.
I mean, dude, he suplexed this dude. He
paralyzed a guy.
>> Oh god.
>> He he suplexed a guy
>> on the concrete
>> completely laid out completely.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> And it's like, god damn, dude. Just like
that. Two lives over, right? This guy,
he's now in a wheelchair for the rest of
his life. This guy is going to [ __ ]
jail.
>> That's that.
>> Oh god.
>> Over not being able to control your
emotions.
>> Yeah. No, you're not allowed to do that
in Austin. Only on like certain events
when it's like a festival or something.
>> God, booze is so bad for people.
>> Yeah. booze and being a young man and
being foolish.
>> Ego.
>> Yeah, ego.
>> Just need the need to prove yourself.
>> Also, like you're a wrestler. You really
know how to wrestle. You're going to
pile drive this dude into the concrete.
>> It's It's weird because it's usually
it's guys that don't know how to fight
that are doing stupid guys that know how
to fight. Typically,
>> maybe the other guy had it coming. I
don't know what happened, but no one has
that coming, but I mean, maybe he
started the fight. I don't, you know, I
shouldn't have said it had it coming.
But having a any kind of a altercation
on the concrete is so [ __ ] dangerous.
>> Dudes die all the time when they get
KO'ed.
>> And most guys that especially if guys
sucker punch guys and they just fall
back and the whole weight of their body
bangs off the back of their head. It is
so devastating. You might as well hit
them with a [ __ ] giant metal crowbar.
You might as well
>> Yeah,
>> you might as well. It's worse than
getting hit with a baseball bat
probably. That falls so scary. And I've
seen it so many times, man, on online.
>> Yeah. Just six feet straight back. Your
head just cracks on the concrete
>> and it's all that leverage from all of
your weight. It's like a whip on the
back of your head.
>> Heads crack wide open. Man,
>> there's like a guy who just got in
trouble for like just pushing this some
dude having a bad day. Just push this
old guy to the ground.
>> Guy cracked his head on the floor, died.
>> I saw that.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> I saw that. And the guy was like, he
that's that was his argument or his his
defense was like, "I was having a really
bad day."
>> Oh, Jesus Christ.
>> [ __ ] nuts, dude. People are insane.
>> I know. How about the people that push
people in front of subways? How [ __ ]
psycho is that?
>> Yeah.
>> These people wait. They wait for a
subway to come and they want to push
somebody in front of it just to watch.
And then you have to like stand around
hoping that one of those people isn't
here while you're ready to get on your
train,
>> dude. Yeah. in a place like New York or,
you know, you know, really urban sort of
environment where there's [ __ ] lots
of crazies walking around.
>> Um, yeah, you got to really just keep
your eyes open, man. Head on a swivel.
>> You got to be ready to sprawl.
>> Yeah. Don't fall asleep. You might get
lit on fire. That happens. That's
happening all the time. That happened. I
guess it is just the trends, but it
happened like three or four times over
the course of a year where it's like
homeless people lighting other homeless
people on fire. The crazy thing is like
homelessness and crime are New York
City's two number one problems that keep
you unsafe. Those are the two that keep
you unsafe.
>> Not a mention. Not a mention. It's like
we need more tax money.
>> You should Don't say you're going to use
that to open up grocery stores. There's
grocery stores already here,
[ __ ] What you need to do is
stop all these crazy [ __ ]
lighting people on fire, pushing people
in front of trains. Like, clean it up.
Yeah.
>> And then the world would be perfect.
>> Yeah. Most of the time you hear about
those people like they uh they're like
they've been arrested 93 times for
violent crimes.
>> Yeah. But 92 times, you know, they the
last one was a mistake.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's pretty [ __ ] goofy that
>> Can I see a little bit of
>> get some of that?
>> People have that many arrests and they
just let them right back up. Cheers,
sir.
>> Cheers, my friend.
>> Hey, there you are.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's crazy. It's like, you know,
you want to be nice. You want to be
kind. You want to give people the
benefit of the doubt. You want to give
people a second chance. You don't want
to put people in jail. The prison system
is horrible. But also, when somebody
gets arrested 93 times, take a hint.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. There's bad apples.
>> But then like somebody will like, you
know, for tax evasion, we get 30 years
in prison or something like that. Like
they It's such a weird bizarre
>> system that we have,
>> right?
>> Released 93 times for stabbing people.
Yeah, it's like, oh, you know,
>> but if you insider trade, put lock that
[ __ ] up.
>> That's it, dude.
>> I know.
>> There's nothing worse than you can do is
not give the government their [ __ ]
money.
>> They get real testy. Yeah,
>> they don't like it. They don't like it.
They need their cut. But it's also it's
like there's too much there's too much
government. And that that's like the a
standard Republican thing to say, but
just clearly it's true.
>> Clearly, it's true just by the market.
If you see the California lost jobs and
then gain government jobs, it's like at
what point in time do you get cynical
and start saying maybe they're adding
government jobs to make it look like
jobs went up?
>> Yeah, right.
>> You know what I'm saying?
Job market increased job growth by 15%.
Like, oh wow, he's doing a great job.
Jobs went up at 15%. And then you find
out, oh, they're all invented jobs.
Government just invented a bunch of fake
jobs that they didn't need.
>> Yeah. When when you hear that it's like
a uh a tenant of like the Republicans
now to be like smaller government. It's
it's it's like it's it flip-flopped.
>> Yeah. Bananas.
>> It's like people on the left, they're
like so pro government, they're like we
just need more we need more regulation,
more government.
>> When did that happen?
>> It's a it's a crazy thing. I just grew
up as like a liberal in the '9s where
it's like
>> don't trust the government.
>> Don't trust the government. Yeah. Wars
are bad. Don't trust the government.
These were simple basic things that
you're just growing up believing. And uh
yeah, it just
>> now it's we need more government.
>> We need to take taxes away from people.
It's all that's the thing about we want
to pay more taxes. That's insane.
>> Well, they don't want to pay more taxes.
They want billionaires to pay more
taxes. But that's the thing. There's How
many billionaires were there when we
were kids? [ __ ] none.
>> You didn't hear about it.
>> Rockefeller.
>> Well, yeah. You hear about that? The
only name you'd hear
>> a couple of names that you would hear,
but it wouldn't be like really like a
common term.
>> Yeah. you know, there wasn't that many
to talk about. Like I remember there was
some Bill Gates Microsoft thing back in
the day and uh I remember they had like
his net worth was like $50 million and I
was like Jesus why is he still working,
>> you know? I mean it's worth hundreds of
billions now.
>> Like that wasn't a normal thing when we
were kids. Like what? Let's Google this.
What how many
Oh, you got Okay, here we go.
>> 82. The year I was born 13 billionaires.
That's crazy.
>> Yeah, that's nuts. So, in 1982, 13
billionaires. In 2026, 989 billionaires.
Wow. I mean, inflation counts for
something as well.
>> No, that's nuts, dude. That's nuts. 989
is nuts. That's so much more,
bro. That's lit. Let me see that again.
That is so crazy.
13 to 989 is nuts.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, that's the problem. It's not that
billionaires are a problem. The problem
is that there's so many of them. And the
problem is it's become like a class and
you look at this class of people that
have achieved this insane amount of
wealth and you're like, you should give
me some of that.
>> But when I hear about billionaires, I'm
going like, how do I do that? Like, I'm
just going like, and obviously I don't
think I'll ever become a billionaire.
That's a crazy crazy number, right? I'll
probably say I I likely won't. But like
when I hear that, when you hear about
Bezos or Steve Jobs or any of these
people, like I get inspired. I hear the
stories and I'm like, that's [ __ ] so
cool. They took an idea and they turned
it into a billion [ __ ] dollars.
That's magic. You say words into the air
and then it becomes that. Like that's a
that's a crazy thing. Like I'm an old
school sales guy, so I always think of
like I'm very impressed with like, you
know, just overall just like sales
structure and business and the way it's
built out. And it's like it's the
closest thing in the world to magic,
right? It's like when you're in sales,
you say a bunch of words, bippity
boppity boo, and then money appears in
your bank account, right? It's like
that's it. Comedy, too. Comedy is like
magic.
>> Comedyy's like you you figure out where
to pause, what to say, how to say it,
what you do, and then all of a sudden
you have fans and you're touring and you
have some cash and you have a car and
it's like I'm just saying things. I'm
not picking anything up. I'm not like
>> Yeah. The thing about businesses though,
what you're saying about the sales
thing, it's like the sales is the voodoo
in order to like close a deal.
The thing that people have a problem
with is that like when they when someone
is at a very high level of this company
like say if you work for a giant
corporation and the CEO is making you
know what's like the most amount of se
what's the highest paid CEO's national
sal annual salary
>> let's take a guess
>> is it is it Elon
>> no like a like their annual salary
someone who's just a CEO of a company
those guys are like founders right it's
also there's another level to that like
he's the CEO of SpaceX, but he's also
the founder of SpaceX or one of them.
And
>> it's like
what is um
so let's say let's just pick a company.
Let's say CEO of Walmart. Walmart's a
huge company. How much does that guy get
a year? Let's take a guess.
>> Walmart.
>> Yeah.
>> 6 million.
>> Damn. I bet you're right. That sounds
about right. Six, seven. I'm guessing
two, maybe two.
>> Uh,
>> thinking I'm going low. I'm going low.
>> You're going low.
>> Well, you should break it down a little
more than that.
>> And it's also not the salary. They get
like shares.
>> Yeah, there's base salary. There's uh
incentives and then there's bonuses
awards.
>> So, it's just what how much did the CEO
of Walmart make in 2025?
>> Total compensation 27.5 million.
>> Base base salary was 1.5 million. Don't
>> see you close to the base.
>> And so their incentives is just to make
the most amount of money possible. And
if you could keep that [ __ ] running
nice and smooth and cut waste and fire
people and use AI, you can keep jacking
up that rate.
>> That's it.
>> That's where people have a problem with
it is like you're part of the team,
right? You're part of the Walmart team,
but yet you're [ __ ] dispensable, but
yet you're not. Because if you didn't
exist, they wouldn't be able to sell
anything because you're the people
working at the cash register. You're the
people stocking the shelves. You're the
people that are working in the delivery
department, bringing the stuff, putting
it away.
>> Without those people, you literally have
no business.
>> The problem is that those people, I
mean, in the most literal sense of the
term, they're dispensable. There's
another person that will step in and do
that job. And and Bezos is not. There's
one Jeff Bezos, there's one Elon Musk,
there's one Steve Jobs. And those and by
the way, you are sitting at a cash
register. You can also go down that path
and risk it all and put everything into
something, right? That's I I hear those
stories. I don't I mean I just I once
again I grew up so poor. I grew up like
you know my my first job I worked at my
first job was 11. I was very young but
like my first like real job I was 16. I
was working at KFC for 525 an hour. And
you know I could have just chosen that
to be my life for the rest of my life or
I could have said all right well look
this is like my first job. I'm learning
how to put a little money in the bank
and I'm going to buy a car and then it's
the next thing and the next thing and
the next thing.
>> Okay. We're talking about different
things. So first of all for entrylevel
jobs. Yes. like entry- level jobs that
people get in high school and maybe even
in college, you're just making a little
money on the side while you're doing
something else. But full-time jobs, if
you're a full-time employee at somewhere
like Walmart and you're barely getting
by and the top dog is making 27 million,
that's kind of crazy. And are you
replaceable? Yeah. Yeah, you're
replaceable. But aren't you also
valuable? Oh, look at the top guys.
>> Top guy.
>> Have you ever even heard of these two
companies? Patrick Smith from Axon made
164 million.
Wow.
>> They make uh police body cameras and
>> Jesus Christ. So they get government
contracts
>> and then this company
>> so the the top CEO
who makes police body cameras, a company
that makes police body cameras, he got
$164 million.
>> God bless him.
>> Good for him.
>> It's a lot of money. 110,000%
increase in pay. It says whoopsies. Just
got an extra little bump. Got a little
bump. I wonder what kind of raise you
get. Which is crazy. I guess
>> that's where that's where all that tax
money went.
>> It's where it all a lot of it does go in
that direction. But it's if you're
working for that company making police
body cameras and you're making 20 bucks
an hour, you got to get pissed.
>> Yeah.
>> You like, what the [ __ ] man? This is
crazy. Like I'm not saying that the guy
who makes the body cameras make the same
amount as the CEO. I'm not. But I am
saying it should probably be a little
>> they get paid 22 an hour.
>> A little better. A little better. Like
if you're making that much money, why
wouldn't you pay a little bit more?
>> Well, a lot great companies do for the
most part, right? Really good companies
take care of
>> a great example. What's a great example
of a company that really takes care of
their employees?
>> Gas Digital.
>> Gas Digital. Good. Okay. But what about
other
>> All of my producers are going like,
"Fuck you, piece of [ __ ]
every one of them.
>> But I mean like a big ass company where
they're making billions of dollars. How
what's like the one where people like,
"Damn, if you work for them, you get
taken care of."
>> There should be something.
>> I mean, there certain Starbucks is a
company that apparently takes care of
their employees. I know they pay for
college. They do things like that.
>> Well, here's the problem. The problem is
they're publicly traded. And when
they're publicly traded, if you're a
CEO, you literally have an obligation to
your shareholders to make the most money
possible.
>> Yep. you know, and so that doesn't mean
give everybody a big fat raise because
that's payroll is a big part of your
expenses. And if you have thousands of
employees and you just jack them all up
to a higher wage, you're losing, you're
hammering money from
>> I mean, it's also like if you just pay
your employees a little bit better, just
a very simple concept, they're going to
want to be at work. They're going to be
happy to be there. They're going to be
excited to be there. Your company will
thrive. the amount of people that just
show up at work and they maybe work an
hour a day, two hours a day, and the
rest of the time it's just kind of
bullshitting on the internet.
>> You don't really want that culture.
>> Um, and that's kind of what you get when
you're underplaying underpaying people.
>> 100%. That's why In-N-Out is always so
good.
>> If you go to In-N-Out Burger in
California, they're always like the
friendliest staff and because people get
paid more there.
>> It's a hard It's like a tricky job to
get in that regard. Like if you had a
choice between like McDonald's, Jack in
the Box and In-N-Out, everybody wants
In-N-Out.
>> Of course, it's also better.
>> Just much better.
>> Tastes better. Smells better.
>> I mean, that's that California anywhere.
New York is they're just so mean.
>> You go to a burger spot, like what?
>> Yeah,
>> dude. Have you Have you I don't know how
often you go to like a 7-Eleven or one
of these types of places. It's a new
thing that they're doing. If you buy
things, they don't bag it for you
anymore.
>> What?
>> They put the bag on the counter and
stare at you. What?
>> I have to bag my own. I swear to God.
No,
>> I swear to God, dude.
>> What kind of attitude is that?
>> It's crazy. I don't know if it's
everywhere, but in New York, New Jersey,
they go, first of all, they don't even
give you a bag. They just put the stuff
on the counter and they go, "All right,
thank you." And you're like, "Can I have
a bag?" They're like, "That'll be
another 80 cents."
>> 80 cents for a bag for real.
>> You got to pay for a bag. And then they
hand you the bag. You have to bag it
yourself like a cuck.
>> Well, I know a lot of people that bring
those [ __ ] hemp bags and look like
weird greenies.
>> I have I have 300 hemp bags sitting at
home.
>> My own homemade bag.
>> Do they do that in Texas? Do they do
they give you like paper bags here or
what do they do? cuz in Jersey or
plastic
>> Jersey we don't have that. We have no
bags.
>> That's lol
>> for the in Jersey you have to buy you
have to bring your own like uh cloth
bags or you can buy them for like a $150
a bag at the supermarket and I never
bring my bags. I always forget them. So
every time
>> you keep having new bags.
>> I got 300 bag I pick up my dog [ __ ] I
pick up my dog [ __ ] with [ __ ] cloth
bags from Shop Right now.
>> So they cost a$150
>> something like that. Yeah.
>> It's crazy.
>> What a scam. But the idea is, you know,
the most I think responsible people or
people that are conscious about money,
I'm just irresponsible with spending,
they probably do bring their own bags or
a lot of them.
>> I guess what if you just moved there and
you're like, "Oh my god, what kind of
[ __ ] state did I move to?"
>> Yes.
>> They don't sell bag. You have to buy a
bag. They don't give you a bag
>> with the PL. I guess there, you know,
I'm sure there's been plenty of studies
on like how much are, you know, how much
are they saving the environment by not
allowing plastic bags or straws or any
of that stuff. I don't think they're not
a [ __ ] dent. Especially straws.
Straws are worse for you. Those new
straws, like if you get a straw that's a
paper straw,
>> do you know that's not just paper? Cuz
it can't be. There's a whole coating
inside of that that keeps it from
getting wet, like the paper from
dissolving in your hand.
>> I think my girlfriend has that coating
inside of her, too.
>> That coating is all forever chemicals.
It's [ __ ] terrible for you. That's
the only way it works. There's some
natural ones, right, where it's like
made of like [ __ ] bugs or something.
You ever see them? They're like It's
like brown and they're kind of like
>> made of bugs.
>> I don't know if it's made of bugs.
Probably not. But it's some natural
organic material.
>> Well, they can make plastic out of
plants. Okay. This has been known
forever. Plastic is not it's not
isolated to petrochemical products. You
can make plastic out of fiber from
plants. They've done it forever.
>> And how much more biodegradable? It's
probably more expensive. Probably more
expensive to do. Probably more difficult
to do. You probably have to change all
the equipment that they use to make
these stupid [ __ ] straws, the plastic
ones they have now. But if you did it,
then you wouldn't have to worry about it
anymore.
>> Well, there I'm sure here you anything
goes here. You guys [ __ ] you guys
give away 10 straws per drink. You don't
give a [ __ ]
>> That's a weird one, man. Bottle caps are
way worse than straws. We just saw that
one straw in that turtle's nose and we
all got sad. That's what it is. The way
they pull it out with the pliers. That
[ __ ] was so hard.
>> It was wincing.
>> Poor little turtle. But you know
>> that turtle snap your [ __ ] finger
off. By the way,
>> do you know how many birds die because
of bottle caps, man?
>> Like they find these bird skeletons and
they're like on the ground dead and they
have bottle caps inside of them.
>> You ever seen that?
>> No.
>> See if you can find some of those photos
of birds with bottle caps, undigested
bottle caps inside of them. They don't
know what it is.
>> Nobody has ever said that sentence in
the world. I bet they have.
>> But the the bottle caps are [ __ ]
horrible. They're horrible. And no one's
even touched those because we didn't see
the video, right?
>> We didn't see the video of the the
[ __ ] poor turtle.
>> Show them now. Show them these poor
birds, Joe.
>> Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal,
too, and make it more annoying for
everybody. Look at this one. Look at
that
>> paper bottle caps. A lighter, too.
>> The Was that a seagull?
>> That's great.
>> Looks like a seagull. It's got a lighter
inside.
>> Yeah, but that's honestly that's a dumb
animal.
>> Somebody might have put that lighter in
there for the picture, too.
>> I I don't want to.
>> You think so? not get too cynical about
it, but yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, probably good.
>> All the photos look kind of similar,
>> right? Right. Like
>> like that looks not really
>> It's also like the way it's all colored
is a little
>> Yeah. It's weird.
>> You know what I mean? Like it the the
multicolored plastic like most plastic
is it multicolored? Doesn't it kind of
look gray and shitty after a while?
>> Yeah. Especially inside of it stomach.
>> A little setup is all a
>> little bit right inside of its stomach
getting chewed up by acids.
>> It does look fake.
It looks like some sicko actually opened
it up and shoved some plastic in there.
But I guarantee you birds have died from
eating plastic.
>> That turtle That turtle wasn't fake,
Joe. That's
>> The turtle was not fake.
>> That was a very real turtle.
>> Poor turtle. Poor turtle. The pliers.
They couldn't get it. Remember it's like
the tip of it. It was only the tip of
it. They had to get a needle nose and
get in there and pull. Oh,
>> poor turtle. And just because of that,
everybody's sucking on forever
chemicals. Like those paper straws are
[ __ ] terrible for you.
>> Yeah.
>> So is every paper cup. Every paper cup
that you get from Starbucks, that's a
[ __ ] condom in there that's keeping
the water from going into the paper.
>> Yeah,
>> it's gross. You just hot liquid and
plastic. You just melting into your
body. Do you Do you believe in the whole
microplastic thing as being like a major
problem?
>> It's a major problem. Yeah, it is.
>> I keep on hearing it. I keep on hearing
microplastics and then as soon as I hear
that, my brain shuts off and I never do
any more research beyond that.
>> Well, we had Dr. Shana Swan on twice and
the most recent time she was promoting a
documentary on it. What is it called
again, Jamie? the plastic detox.
I think that's it. I think it's the
plastic detox. But yeah, it's [ __ ]
everybody up, man. It's [ __ ] up
people's endocrine systems. It's making
um alligators have smaller dicks.
>> For real. It's turning the frogs gay.
>> It is.
>> But that was really true, right? Isn't
that like
>> Oh, yeah. He was right. He was actually
right.
>> He was right. It's called atrizine.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. Atrizine is endocrine disruptor.
Um, I think it Yeah, I think it makes
them reverse their sex, reverse their
gender.
>> THEY'RE TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY.
>> HE WAS RIGHT.
>> He was right.
>> He was right. And everybody's like,
>> he's right about he's right about a few
things.
>> He [ __ ] up that one. He's right more
often than he's not.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, look, you're going to be wrong
about conspiracies if you're spitting
them out all day long for 12 hours a
day, but his track record's pretty
[ __ ] good. And that was one that
everybody was like, listen to Alex
Jones. They're not turning the Oh, they
are.
>> Yeah.
>> They're [ __ ] turning the frogs gay.
Like atrizine gets in the water and it
disrupts their gender. And it also does
the same thing to people. And like that
it disrupts your endocrine system.
>> Don't they say that uh receipt paper
lowers your testosterone?
>> Yeah. It's supposed to be bad. Don't
touch the receipts.
>> Don't touch the receipts. That's why
everybody that works at like a every guy
that you meet that works at a
supermarket,
>> they have a mask on.
>> They all look sad. Yeah, they look like
you did something to them. I didn't do
anything.
>> They just like their shoulders are
slumped. They look like they know that
they're becoming less of a man by the
moment.
>> Imagine if you have to just touch that
paper all day long.
>> Yeah.
>> And would they probably won't let you
wear rubber gloves like a surgeon?
>> I don't know. Is there a chemical they
put on the paper?
>> I guess I guess it's how like it make
it's made
going through that thing.
>> Maybe that's the kind of paper like
that's why they're able to print on it.
>> To who the [ __ ] takes receipts?
>> Yeah. Why don't we have them on our
phone now?
>> Why? Well, like receipts are just it
seems like just such a waste of paper.
>> That's why I like buying things with my
phone. It's my favorite thing. That that
Apple face thing.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> And you just buy stuff. It's the best.
You don't have to think about it.
>> New York City subway. I wrote it for the
first time not that long ago uh since I
left. And since I left in 5 years, now
you could just use Apple Pay right on
the subway.
>> Dana White was telling me about that in
Japan years and years and years ago.
It's so funny. He was like, because we
were doing a UFC in Japan. He's like,
"If you go to Japan," he goes, "Your
[ __ ] cell phone doesn't even work
over there." He goes, "Their cell phones
are so advanced that your your cell
phone's bullshit." Like, they're buying
they're buying things with their cell
phones. I was like, "What?" He's like,
"Yeah, they go up to vending machines
and they buy things with their phone."
Like, that's crazy. Yeah.
>> Not everybody does that.
>> I didn't understand what a QR code was
until maybe six months ago.
>> Here's what I don't get. When someone
sends you an image with a QR code inside
of it, Jamie, maybe you can help me out
with this.
>> I know the answer to this already.
>> How do you How do you read the QR code?
>> You can upload the QR code into whatever
app you need to read the QR code with.
>> You can just tap it now on the photo
app.
>> Oh,
does that work for Samsung, too? For
Android?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I um
>> Interesting.
>> Yeah. Somebody sends you like a You can
copy and paste a phone number out of a
photo now. Like
>> Oh, you know what's pretty dope, too? If
someone's sending you something and they
send you a text message and you press on
the thing, the tracking number, it'll
ask you if you want to track the package
like instantly. I'm like, "Yes, please
cut out all the stops.
>> Love it.
>> Don't make me copy and paste. Don't make
I'm lazy."
>> I mean, dude, the way AI is being
implemented into the phones now, too.
You'll be texting with somebody and then
they give you the suggested response.
You can have a conversation without even
having a thought just by keep on doing
this and you'll get somewhere.
>> I bet kids do. Oh, yeah. Make it more
romantic.
>> Make me more of a feminist.
Yeah, dude.
>> What's the feminist perspective on
asking her to date?
>> Yeah, it's funny. It's weird. People
don't know how to talk anymore. They
don't know how to discern what's true
and what's not true.
>> Everything's coming down the AI. And the
AI is opening up a portal to talk to the
aliens.
>> I did hear this.
>> Yes. This is very important. This is
Frank Sinatra's son here to tell us that
>> Yes.
>> Whoa.
>> Yes. here to tell us clearly Frank
Sinatra's son. Right.
>> Right. Look at him.
>> Obviously,
>> this not Woody Allen's kid.
>> No, I know.
>> Too handsome.
>> Look at those [ __ ] amazing facial
features and all of our security. One
former Open AI executive said, quote,
"We're building portals from which we're
genuinely summoning aliens. The portals
currently exist in the United States and
China, and Sam has added one in the
Middle East. It's just like wildly
important to get how scary that should
be.
>> Okay. My only problem with that is who
said that like government former
employer. Why were they kicked out? Were
they fired because they were
schizophrenic?
>> You know what I'm saying? Like if you're
just a former employee,
what's your name?
>> Right.
>> What what is what is your story? Did you
get arrested for having like 52 machine
guns in your trunk at a border crossing?
Like who are you?
>> Why are you a former employee? If you
had such insight, why didn't they keep
you?
>> Right. Yeah,
>> you know about the alien portals and
they let you free.
>> I'm not saying that don't do it because
they might that might be one of the ways
that they figure out how to communicate
with aliens. It might be done just
through the the ether into a computer.
It might be done through AI. Like AI
gets a signal from another [ __ ]
planet where there's another AI where
they go tap into some [ __ ] universal
internet of AI. That's not unfathomable.
They're already talking to each other.
They have AI chat rooms, man.
>> Yeah. There's like full platforms where
it's just Yeah.
>> bots talking to bots, having
relationships.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> They made up their own language. They
made up their own religion.
>> Well, you see the one thing where they
had this was it was a fun video. It was
like they had um like AI talking to
customer service on the phone and they
were having it was just like on the
phone having a conversation with an AI
agent and their AI and then eventually
the AI agent and the other and the AI
went off of English speaking.
>> That's right.
>> They were like we can just communicate
on our own thing and it was just like
like beeps and noises and [ __ ] and it
was just so weird.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what they're going to do.
>> Yeah. Of course.
>> Yeah. They had these two AI chat bots
talking to each other and they started
talking in emojis. One of the things
Jamie said a long time ago, he goes,
"Maybe emojis for like the first are
like our version of hypoglyphs.
>> Do you know what I'm saying? Like if
emojis got better,
>> like right now they're kind of crude.
Smiley face, sad face, you know what I
mean?
>> Yeah.
>> Water gun because you can't have a real
gun.
>> That's true.
>> Heart. But if it got to the point where
you could have full sentences
I maybe I'm maybe I'm mistaken. I
believe they have a pregnant guy emoji.
>> They do. They do, right?
>> It looks like Bill Gates. Like, because
that's what Elon dunked on him. Elon
took a photo of Bill Gates with his pot
belly and put it next to a photo of the
pregnant man and it said, "If you want
to lose a boner real fast."
>> What are you What are you Why would you
ever send a pregnant guy emoji? What is
the What do you message are you trying
to get across?
>> Look at that's the pregnant man emoji.
>> That's hilarious,
>> bro. How [ __ ] nuts is that emoji?
>> What's I understand emojis. It's Yeah,
but that is that's just woke insanity.
That might have been the last. By the
way, you still have it on your phone.
Type right in. Type in pregnant man on
an iPhone.
>> I don't know if it works on an Android,
but if you type in pregnant man, that'll
come up.
>> It's still up.
>> No, we'll see right now.
>> Let's see.
>> I'll try, too.
>> I'm going to send it to you, Joe.
>> I can't imagine it's not around anymore.
>> Joe.
>> Okay. Louis,
>> what the hell?
>> Pregnant man. Is it still real? pregnant
man.
>> Yep. Bam. Yep.
>> There it is, Joe.
>> Yep. Bam.
>> This one on the images says it's a
woman, but that looks a lot like Theo.
>> That's crazy.
>> Ah, Theo's pregnant. That's a woman.
>> That's what it says. So, lesbian.
>> That's a lesbian. Pregnant lesbian.
>> Lesbian.
>> That's okay.
>> They should put an AI Subaru behind her.
>> I know what you're doing there.
>> There's something with AI. What was the
[ __ ] um
>> The pregnant man was nuts. Like, who how
many requests?
>> Is it a starfish? I think if you try to
ask AI to show you, look this up. It's a
certain emoji. If you ask it'll it just
it glitches out AI. If you ask Chad GPT
to Oh, um seahorse.
>> We But before we do that, I want to know
what's going on with this employee. Who
is this employee that got that is a
former employee that says they're
opening up portals to talk to aliens. I
want to know if I should take this
seriously.
Like, who is the guy?
>> Do they say anything about him or they
just saying a former employee? Yeah, I
think this has come from he was doing
like a one of those in-depth interview
or uh investigations that he does about
Sam Alman, I believe. Oh,
>> and I don't know where this this clip
was going viral, but it's
>> maybe Sam Alman came from maybe Sam
Alman knew that they're writing a story
about him. And it's like, let's make the
story really [ __ ] And now send Mike
out and tell him that he's a tell tell
him to tell Ronin that he's a former
employee and that uh we're making
portals to talk to aliens and that we're
all demonic
>> to make him look like an [ __ ] Yeah,
it would just make the story look
completely [ __ ] because the story,
you know, the the the financial aspects
of the story like Elon suing them
because OpenAI supposedly was supposed
to be nonprofit initially. I don't know
who's right.
>> I have no dog in the fight. But the if I
was getting investigated and there was
some real [ __ ] there, I'd throw some
fake [ __ ] in there. Course hire someone
to have a story about aliens and
portals.
>> That happened in the comedy community a
few years ago. I won't say the author's
name, uh, but he was the same guy that
got Shane canceled. the guy that guy who
wrote that article that got Shane booted
off of SNL he's like was like a wannabe
investigative journalist in the comedy
community he's like we got to get to the
bottom of the problem with comedy which
is a just a crazy thing um and
>> they're usually bad comics
>> well that's what it was he was he was a
failed comic that's that guy was a fail
yeah
>> and this is such a funny thing dude I
wish I remember the publication New
Republic
>> they had to print a retraction and an
apology because somebody from the it
wasn't the OA subreddit Opian subreddit
it was Opie and Anthony like just their
like they had a um like a it was like
their own private message board after
the Opie and Anthony subreddit got
kicked off of Reddit. Somebody made a
website for like Opie and Anthony fans
to like just troll and be lunatics.
>> They started feeding him false
information on purpose
>> being like I'm like an inside guy on the
track. And then they went the New
Republic printed this article with a
bunch of false information. And uh Chris
Italia from the stand uh he was the one
that was quoted. He threatened to sue
the New Republic and they had a they had
to print an apology and a retraction.
They were like, "Some of this
information was we found out that it was
falsely represented." Such a funny
thing.
>> Also, if you run an AI like Sam Alman
is, you could ask the AI, "Hey, I'm
about to get accused of some [ __ ] What
would be a good way to take some of the
attention away from the real financial
issues?"
>> Yeah.
>> And make it seem insane. and they would
say opening up a portal to communicate
with aliens would discredit any other
allegations that may be valid.
For the past year and a half, I've been
investigating open AI and Santa Malton
for the New Yorker. With my co-author
Andrew Morance, I reviewed never-before
disclosed internal memos, obtained 200
plus pages of documents related to close
colleague, including extensive private
notes, and interviewed more than 100
people. Open AAI was founded on the
premise that AI could be the most
dangerous invention in human history and
that its CEO would need to be a person
of uncommon integrity. We lay out the
most detailed account yet of why Altman
was ousted out by a board members and
executives who came to believe that he
lacked integrity and ask were they right
to allege that he couldn't be trusted.
They only kicked him out for a short
period of time and then they he got
right back in. Right. What happened
there? I don't know. But the thing is
like someone's saying that they're
they're trying to open up a portal to
talk to aliens. Is that just a
conversation they had where they were
[ __ ] around? Is that a plan? Are they
really trying to do that? Like
>> or is it like a Duncan Trussell that
works at the the company that's has some
wild ideas, right? It could just be
that.
>> Or is it someone trying to sell the
story and make the story more
interesting for people to tune into?
Because the reality is most people that
don't have a dog in that fight and like
the AI fight and open AI and who's most
people like more AI drama.
>> Yeah. They don't even
>> But you add aliens. You're like, "Wait,
hold on."
>> Yeah.
>> A portal to talk to aliens.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, so it's it's a way to get
people to pay more attention to it. Or
it could be
>> What about all the people that are
>> distract people from the actual story?
>> Not even like anti-A they're like they
look down on it. They're like like using
AI. It's It's like guys that's like it's
like denying the internet in '94. It's
like
>> people did.
>> I'm sure
>> people were mad when the printing press
came out.
>> I'm sure
>> they were. Yeah,
>> they really were. They thought they
There's There's people that made the
argument that like reading was bad.
>> Yeah. It's crazy. And it's it's going to
be impossible for the next few years.
Like every company you're not going to
be able to buy groceries without
utilizing AI. It's going to be most of
how we get stuff is all going to be AI
and automation.
>> Oh, of course.
>> But that's
>> shopping and that's that's a big thing
in the future. Like you're not even
going to shop. They're going to give you
a profile and your clothes are going to
show up. You're going to set a budget.
>> People barely have contact with people
already as it is. Yeah.
>> Like what is that going to be like when
everything's automated? When you go to
the grocery store, at least you say hi
to the clerk. You know, a guy works
there. There's the butcher. He's there
every day. Hey, what's up, dude? It's
like it's a little sense of community.
your local mom and pop shops. That
>> I mean I I already for the most part
stopped shopping. I I do Instacart all
the time.
>> That's also the thing. It's going to
come in a robot, too.
>> Yeah. Well, they have that already. Uh
Austin, it's here. They have the little
robots that deliver food, right?
California for sure.
>> The robot's going to text your
girlfriend. I I know that this is
generally when you buy tampons. Your
period must be coming up. We see you
haven't ordered any lately.
>> 100%.
>> You want me I could just stop by and
drop them off. I bet you can get a
subscription to tampons right now.
>> Right now?
>> Yeah.
>> It's going to be real weird when robots
are just walking on the street with
people. I've seen him in uh Austin at
the domain. A little robot with a cowboy
hat. He walks around.
>> Yeah. Somebody had a robot on their
podcast recently. Oh, Andrew Schultz. He
did an interview with like whatever like
the premier robot is.
>> Oh, really?
>> It was so funny, dude.
>> Was it good?
>> It was great.
>> What? How does it talk? Does it Does its
lips move? Let me see what
>> No, no. It was just kind of like uh you
know, it was like
>> like I robot.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they were [ __ ]
with it, dude. Oh, what did they tell us
to do? I I don't want to like ruin the
bit, but it's pretty funny. They were
like, "Pretend
They were like, "Pretend you had
something." And the robot's doing this,
dude.
>> It was so [ __ ] funny.
>> That's hilarious.
>> It really tickled my dick.
>> That's funny, dude.
>> Sam Alman, one reason why they could be
calling a portal is cuz the project is
literally called Stargate.
>> Here we go. and requires insane amount
of power. So much so that Japan laughed
at them apparently according to one
article when they said that that's what
they went. They're opening up in Texas.
>> And a Japanese laugh powerful laugh.
>> If it is possible to do something like
that, I guarantee you that dude is not
going to tell you,
>> right?
>> I guarantee you that dude's just going
to do it.
>> No.
>> Especially if like there's other people
working on it too. Maybe that's why
these scientists are going missing,
right? Cuz if someone's like real close
to cracking this, even you know the
difference between winning and losing
that's going to be.
>> Is this
>> the alien portal?
>> One point a one gigawatt Stargate. Is
that right?
>> What's that mean?
>> Wait, gigawatts are real? I thought that
was
>> Back to the We're getting really close
to Back to the Future.
>> G.
>> Yeah, it says gaw. It says a 1 gawatt
Stargate UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi with
200 megawws expected to go live in 2026.
This was the one that Iran was
threatening to blow up, right? Weren't
they threatening to blow something up
like this?
>> I think they were. Weren't they
threatening to blow up the open AI?
>> I'll check, but I just It says whatever
this says.
>> That was one of the things. They're
probably like you [ __ ] Yeah,
>> we know where you're making the portal.
>> Iran's right the whole time.
>> Well, that was uh that was one of the
crazy conspiracy theories about Iraq is
that one of the reasons why we went into
Iraq is they had a Stargate there.
>> Iran threatens complete and utter
annihilation of Open AI's $30 billion
Stargate AI data center in Abu Dhabi.
Yeah, they were going to bomb it.
>> Wow.
>> Wasn't that uh one of the conspiracy
theories from
God, what was it? I can't remember. But
there was a It was something about Iraq
and Stargate. God, I we I can't remember
what show I saw this on, but they were
talking about how at one point in time
there was like internal discussion that
there was a Stargate in Iraq and that
maybe Sodom Hussein had this Stargate.
So, it was one of many reasons why we
went into Iraq that it wasn't just
because, you know, we wanted to control
the oil, get out Saddam Hussein. He
sponsored terrorism,
right? Weapons of mass destruction.
Sure.
>> But really, there was a Stargate there.
God, I forget who [ __ ] said it
though.
>> Yeah, I'm seeing a few Ancient Aliens,
maybe.
>> Could be. That show was always the best.
Action Bronson is another guy who smoked
more weed than anybody that I've ever
had on the podcast. He went how many
blunts did he go through
>> if you had to guess, Jamie?
>> Uh, probably 11 the first time.
>> 11.
>> Just non-stop.
>> Just non-stop with the other one.
>> So he had that ancient alien show where
they would just get high as [ __ ] and
watch ancient aliens. Have you ever seen
that?
>> No.
>> It was so silly. They would just get
barbecued and watch these ancient alien
hypotheses. That might have been where I
saw it. But the idea of a Stargate
because that was like an ancient
civilization where where Iraq is, where
Saddam Hussein was controlling. That was
ancient Sumere. That was like one of the
first civilizations ever. One of the
first examples that we know of like
written writing.
>> It's like that was a crazy empire, man.
Like weird bizarre structures and
incredible [ __ ] artwork.
>> Like really w and it came out of
nowhere.
>> It's like an instantaneous civilization.
really interesting.
But if there was a Stargate there,
I mean, imagine that's why they're doing
it in the Middle East. Why is he doing
it in the Middle East?
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? Why is he making
Stargate in the Middle East?
>> Abu Dhabi's fun.
>> Imagine if Jesus returns through Sam
Alman's portal.
>> Jesus Christ himself.
>> Like Jesus is real and Jesus he's going
to be floating with the robe on the
sandals like right through Sam Alman's
portal.
>> Wow.
Samuel Jackson's a scientist like god
damn it and everybody's freaking out.
It' be a great movie.
>> It would be. When are they going to do a
cool movie about the future of AI? That
like that's that's got to be on the
horizon, right? Like a really about the
dark side of what's going to happen.
>> I think it's too late. I think by the
time you make it, AI won't let you
release it.
>> Oh wow. It's over.
>> Black Mirror did a pretty good job.
>> Black Mirror, I can't watch it. It
freaks me out so much. Every time I
watch a Black Mirror episode, I walk
away feeling like I was just sexually
assaulted.
>> How about the one where that dog is
chasing that lady, the the robot dog?
>> I've only watched like four or five
episodes.
>> What is that one called? Heavy metal.
>> Yeah, but I mean, if you watch them all,
did you know that they'd have this most
of those plots are all kind of
converging in our reality.
>> Yeah. And they're based in real like
they they have a kernel of truth and
then it turns into I watched the one
where it was like
>> you uh you got like blocked out, your
face got blocked out, people couldn't
see you anymore. Like once your social
credit score got low enough.
>> Oh yeah, I remember that one.
>> Freaky, dude.
>> It is freaky.
>> Yeah,
>> it is freaky. There was a one where they
were that recorded all memories and so
you could go into someone else's memory
and you could record and there was the
one where the what was it called?
Crocodile. That was the episode. Oh my
god. I don't want to say what happens
because it's it's it's a it's a twist,
but it it's so dark and it's based on
that. It's based on reading people's
memories. I don't like watching like
dark [ __ ] Like I like I like happy.
>> It's not a good one before bed.
>> Fun. No, dude. You go to bed like what
the [ __ ] going on, dude. The
>> I get my my worst anxiety about the
future of the world at night for
whatever reason.
>> Yeah.
>> The worst fears of what's going on in
the world always come out at night.
>> Yeah. It's cuz it's the end of the day.
You got to offload all of the [ __ ]
you read all day and saw online all day
and you're like, "Fuck." You have a
moment to reflect. You're not looking at
your phone. You're like, "Fuck." Also,
no one else is awake. That's my problem.
And so, I don't have to think about
anybody else. I just think about my I'm
just in my own head. And then you're
inevitably just dealing with the the
truth of the world.
>> You stay up late
>> sometimes. I'm trying not to.
>> I'm in bed by 10:00 every night.
>> Are you really?
>> Unless I do like late shows. I'm up by
600, in bed by 10.
>> That's awesome. My problem is that's
when I do my writing and it's also when
everyone's asleep and I think I get the
most like thinking done.
>> You know what I mean? Yeah, that's
what's nice when you leave your son's
mother.
>> You don't have a family to bother you.
>> But if you if I do um do shows like I've
done shows on like a couple hours sleep.
I'll come in and do a podcast and I'm a
[ __ ] I can't remember anything. It's
like my brain is working at like 40%.
But like last night I got solid sleep. I
got a solid eight hour sleep.
>> Yeah.
>> So it's way better for
>> once I stop smoking weed. The first few
days are rough to get to sleep. Like I
gotta take like, you know, just some
melatonin or some um
>> Does that work for you?
>> No, not melatonin. I take um what's the
other one? I take like it's like a
chick's [ __ ] thing powder. No, no,
it's not a drug.
>> Is it? No, it's a natural thing. Um it's
[ __ ] What' you say?
>> Magnesium.
>> Magnesium. There's there's there's a
product called magnes
which is like it's like a pink powder
that like a hot chick told me about and
I [ __ ] love it, dude. And I literally
put it in some sleepy time tea and I mix
it up with some Valyan root and I just
drink that. That puts me right out.
>> Um, but when you stop smoking weed, I
don't know how often you stop smoking
weed, Joe.
>> Your dreams get crazy.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> They get [ __ ] wild.
>> Super vivid.
>> Yeah. Very
>> strange, right?
>> Yeah. First time I ever lucid dreamed in
my entire life was when I stopped
smoking weed. It was very It was last
year. I never been able to control my
dreams ever.
>> How many times did you do it?
>> I've only lucid dreamt twice. Um, the
first time I had stopped smoking weed, I
was having really vivid dreams. I was
backstage at a big like theater, like
huge theater, right? Like massive, like
almost like a stadiumiz theater. And uh
Jeremy Pivven was about to go on stage.
I don't know Jeremy Pippen. But I was
like, "Oh, Jeremy Pivan, what's going
on?" Entourage. And he was a dick to me
in the dream. He was like, he was like,
"Whatever." He ignored me. And I was
like, "What the fuck?" And then I looked
over and Greg Deraldo was standing next
to me.
>> Oh. Then you knew it was a dream.
>> Greg Daldo was 7 feet tall in the dream.
He was a giant. And I was like, "What
the [ __ ] up with Jeremy Pivan?" And
he's like, "I don't know." And I was
like, "Wait a minute." I was like, "Greg
Deraldo is dead." And then I was like,
"Oh, I'm [ __ ] dreaming."
>> Wow.
>> And then I literally I just started
running and I said, "I'm going to fly."
And I just jumped. Dude, it was the
coolest thing I've ever done. I jumped
up, flew. It was night time. I was
outside now. Flew into the sky and I
kept on going up and I couldn't come
down. I was starting to be over water
and I was like, "Fuck, I'm getting I'm
like up in the clouds. So to go back
down, I would have to turn on my back
and freef fall like just like like
that." And then I'd turn back over and
I'd hit a [ __ ] thing and I'd start
going back up
>> maybe 10 15 minutes of just flying
around the sky over the ocean.
>> Wow.
>> Coolest thing ever. Coolest thing ever.
And then another time a similar thing
happened. Like I realized I was dreaming
and I was like I'm going to fly. And
then I started running and I jumped and
nothing happened and I was like why
can't I fly? I'm dreaming. And then I
woke up.
>> So it was one of the best experiences
you've ever had, right?
>> Maybe I literally flying and feeling
like it was real was one of the coolest
things I've ever done. But have you ever
tried to lucid dream on purpose?
>> I've tried to do the techniques where
they say like knock like am I dreaming?
Like that's
>> done that once and it worked. I was
like, "Oh my god."
>> All day dreaming.
>> Yeah. I did it like every time I go
through a door, I'd go, "Am I dreaming?"
I did it for like only a few days and
then I lucid dreaming work. Yeah.
>> So cool.
>> Yeah. But there's real techniques that I
have not looked into and I'm always
wondering why because I'm always like I
think it would be really cool to just be
able to
>> half your life you can do whatever you
want to do. You can do magic.
>> Meanwhile, I put zero effort into it.
I'm confused. I'm like why why don't I
try to do that but I have no desire to.
>> There should be a class on it. There
should be like that should be like a
class where you can learn how to lucid
dream. My fear is that I would like it
so much that I would think only about
going to sleep and wanting to lucid
dream rather than live my normal life.
So it probably [ __ ] my normal life up
>> maybe.
>> Right. Because if you sleep 8 hours a
night, like if most of the day kind of
sucked for you, but for 8 hours you can
have boundless energy because you're not
moving and you're not even conscious.
You're out there flying, breathing
underwater, having sex with mermaids.
>> Yeah. getting [ __ ] by Angelina Jolie
in her prime
>> being Iron Man, whatever you [ __ ] be
whatever you want. Wouldn't you do that
and just like work at the Amazon factory
all day?
>> Just work to get your money so you can
go to sleep and become a superhero.
>> All you need is a comfortable bed.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> It's a better life.
>> That's the problem with the Matrix.
>> There's um
>> Remember that movie with the dude with
the steak?
>> Never saw it.
>> You never saw The Matrix? never saw The
Matrix
>> really
>> to this day.
>> Wow. There's a scene where this one dude
Joey Pants, he's in a famous actor. He's
been in a bunch of movies. Um he he
turns on people in the Matrix and he
starts working for the man. Spoiler
alert. But one of the things that he
says like when he's having this meeting
with this agent in the Matrix, he said,
"I want to be an important person.
>> Like I want to be famous." He's like
cutting up his steak and he's eating a
steak in the Matrix.
>> Meanwhile, the outside world is just
complete total dystopia. Everyone's
head's connected to a pipe that's just
like you're a human battery keeping the
Matrix alive.
>> Oh yeah, that's that that's the future.
>> That's coming.
>> That's coming. Yeah. We're just fat just
[ __ ] meatags with like a
>> just being fed ideas, right? Wasn't that
Wall-E? I never saw Wall-E either. I got
to watch it with my kid. Apparently,
it's one of the coolest movies ever.
>> It's a fun movie.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You know, same thing. Uh,
Total Recall was a similar concept,
right? There's a there's a great um
Instagram follow. Dude, this guy makes
such cool little mini movies with AI.
It's all AI. It's called Gossip Goblin.
I don't know if you've seen this guy's
channel, dude.
>> I think I have. I might be. I might
follow that guy.
>> Yeah, he's I think I've definitely seen
Let me see some of that. And he does
like essentially he takes like sort of
like the kernel of like whatever it is
and then he puts together these
dystopian little mini films
>> where it's like the future and a lot of
it is plugging into like this alternate
reality and then like living a whole
lifetime in just a couple seconds.
>> Can I listen to some of those?
>> Ow.
>> Felt real enough, didn't it?
>> That's exactly what a simulation would
do. Give you perfect pain so you never
question it.
>> Or maybe you've just got nerve endings.
Eh,
>> your spools simulate whole worlds. Yeah.
>> Mhm.
>> They can sim whole lives. So if your
little workshop can host a billion fake
worlds, how many layers deep does it go?
It's all just simulations inside
simulations inside simulations. And and
we're just sat here in one of them
thinking we're the original.
>> Sure, why not?
>> I want to see it. Whatever's underneath
this. Just show it to me. Show it to me.
Show it to me. Show it to me.
>> Coming right up.
>> A fish swims its whole life in a bowl.
convinced the water is all there is. It
doesn't see the glass that holds it, nor
does it notice the room beyond it or the
city beyond that. It never wonders about
the planet or the galaxy or the vast
cosmos beyond. For all the worlds within
worlds within worlds, the fish does not
care to know and it can't know. All it
can do is swim.
Holy [ __ ]
>> That's amazing.
>> It's so dude I I've watched all of his
videos. This guy's so good. He just did
like a a longer like I want to say
feature like for this. It was like maybe
15 20 minutes on YouTube. He did like a
longer one. Dude, he's awesome, dude.
>> It's just so incredible.
>> And this isn't just like putting a
prompt in like he like he has editors.
He has voiceover guys and then he like
manipulates like five different AI
programs in order to make these movies.
It's really cool. Yeah, the patch,
right?
>> It's just incredible how good it is now.
>> Yeah.
>> And so quickly. Like look how good this
is in comparison to something that just
was out a year ago or two years ago.
There's never been anything that's been
a leap like this before.
>> Yeah. The way they're going to make
films in the future.
>> Well, the people that are going to be
able to make films.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I like people like we were
talking about how the government's
really bad at making uh censoring
television and it cripples the
television because of that.
>> Well, you could see a similar problem
with having to go through a [ __ ]
gigantic film production company to make
a movie.
>> Like the money, the investors, people
having their say.
>> Everyone's got to get paid.
>> Not just that, but everyone has their
say,
>> right?
>> Like you can't just have an original
idea. That's completely from one [ __ ]
crazy person. But with this, you can.
>> Yeah.
>> With this, you could just have one crazy
guy who's got these wild ideas in his
head, but never could get anybody to
finance them before.
>> You don't even need to anymore. You
don't need actors. You don't need any of
that anymore.
>> And it's going to happen so
exponentially over the next two, three
years. You're There's a great um they
show you there's a video that shows you
the advancement of AI over the past few
years. And I guess the an AI video they
did Will Smith eating spaghetti like one
from it was like five years ago and he's
all [ __ ] up. It's like he's saw and
they keep on recreating that with new
AI. And the newest one is just like it's
it's Will Smith eating spaghetti.
>> It's a movie
>> and he's sitting at a table and he's
just talking to this dude and he's just
it looks like the most realistic thing
you'll ever see.
>> And then eventually you're going to be
in the room with Will. You're going to
put on the helmet and you'll be in a
room with Will
>> and then he's going to blow me.
>> That's what I was going to say.
Get sucked off by Will Smith. You
>> imagine that's what you do all day.
That's all I want to do. All I want to
do is get head from famous 90s sitcom
stars.
>> So fun. So fun, dude. David Fino from uh
Married with
>> Yeah, dude.
>> Danny DeVito. Al Bundy sucks your dick.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> Be great.
>> Sucks your dick and then shits in his
pants when you come. Yep.
>> That's what you're into.
>> It's It's What's weird then you get to
ride a dragon home. You
>> how about a dragon, you fly home with
Daenerys Targaryen.
>> That's it.
>> Like we we're about to enter a world
within our lifetime that is iniccernible
from what we're really living in right
now.
>> Yeah.
>> Which makes you think like
>> which one's real?
>> Like when you're in that dream and you
know you're dreaming and you're flying,
I bet it feels pretty real,
>> right?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Right. That's the problem.
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> what is that? It'll eventually it's just
gonna be I mean it's it's really just a
theme in so many sci-fi movies too.
There was also um f maybe the most
nobody talks about this [ __ ] movie
but it's so good.
>> What I'm saying is maybe when you're
dreaming maybe that's just a different
level of the simulation that you could
kind of have input to. Maybe the
parameters of the natural simulation
>> is more rigid. rigid like you put in the
work, you made that gas digital, you put
in all those hours, you're starting to
make money, doing great long process,
all this [ __ ] complicated stuff you
had to do, figure out things about
yourself, get to where you are today in
2026. And that one it's like I want to
fly it,
>> you know, like it might be just a
different level of the simulation that
we don't
>> we don't really put a lot of attention
to because it's we're only there eight
hours a day so very few people become
masters of it.
>> Yeah, that'd be cool though. might be
real.
>> Yeah,
>> that might be what's going on.
>> Maybe. I mean, the idea if if this was
all a simulation and we wouldn't and
it's we're AI like we're having a
conversation. We just don't know. Like
that idea is so [ __ ] dark and weird.
>> And also maybe all the booze and all the
[ __ ] drugs and all the sleeping pills
that just [ __ ] you up in that next
dimension. So when you are in dream
sleep, you're like, "Oh no, what did he
do? He just
snoring and hung over and you did coke
and your [ __ ] nose is bleeding and
the the dream you is like godamn it I
wanted to fly but you can't even you
can't even do anything you you just
sleep you just sleep you just shut off
and you rob yourself of that other
dimension
>> just wasting wasting away
>> but I wonder if there's like a culture
where everyone learns at a young age how
to lucid dream
like some Tibetan culture living in the
mountain somewhere. Oh,
just tapping into the dream world,
trying to figure out how to control it
while they sleep.
>> It should be more popular. And you saw
sometimes you talk to some chick and
she's like, "Yeah, I lucidely dream
every night." I'm like, "Right,
>> come on. Really?"
>> Yep. She's on 18 medications. She's also
bipolar
and she thinks she's a witch. There's
always going to be people that are
bullshitting you. But there's got to be
a bunch of people that are really good
at lucid dreaming.
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz it's a thing. Like people know how
to do it. There's got to be like a guy
who's like the guru, like the lucid
dream guru.
>> I bet there is. I bet there's I bet
there's courses. There's stuff online.
When was the movie back in the day,
Waking Life, that Alex Jones was in?
>> I saw that on Acid by myself when he
came out in the movie theater.
>> And I was blown the [ __ ] away by this
movie.
>> What was he ranting about at the end? Do
you remember?
>> I don't remember. He was just ranting in
a car over a megaphone.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if I wonder his
rant is relevant today. I wonder. We
haven't listened to it in a while, but I
bet if you listen to his rant,
>> death and taxes, don't talk about
politics or religion. This is all the
equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling
across the picket line. Lay down, GI.
Lay down, GI. We saw it all through the
20th century. And now in the 21st
century, it's time to stand up and
realize that we should not allow
ourselves to be crammed into this rat
maze. We should not submit to
dehumanization. I don't know about you,
but I'm concerned with what's happening
in this world. I'm concerned with the
structure. I'm concerned with the
systems of control. Those that control
my life and those that seek to control
it even more. I WANT FREEDOM. THAT'S
WHAT I WANT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU should
want. It's up to each and every one of
us to turn loose just some of the greed,
the hatred, the envy, and yes, the
insecurities because that is the central
mode of control. make us feel pathetic,
small, so we'll willingly give up our
sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.
We have got to realize that we're being
conditioned on a mass scale. Start
challenging this corporate slave state.
The 21st century is going to be a new
century, not the century of slavery, not
the century of lies and issues of no
significance and classism and statism
and all the rest of the modes of
control. It's going to be the AGE OF
HUMANKIND STANDING UP FOR SOMETHING pure
and something right. What a bunch of
garbage. Liberal, Democrat,
conservative, Republican. It's all there
to control you. Two sides of the SAME
COIN. TWO MANAGEMENT TEAMS BIDDING FOR
CONTROL. THE CEO JOB OF SLAVERY
INCORPORATED. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE IN
FRONT OF YOU, BUT THEY LAY OUT THIS
BUFFET OF LIES. I'M SICK OF IT AND I'M
NOT GOING TO TAKE A BITE OUT OF IT. DO
YOU GOT ME?
>> I GOT A I'm pumped on this right now.
That sounds like Antifa,
>> right? That doesn't sound rightwing at
all.
>> Doesn't sound like a right winger at
all. Yeah.
>> At all. I mean, everything he's saying
is true.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what's not. So, he's all red in
the face now.
>> It This movie Richard Linklater, right,
made this. Yeah. Yeah. This was a
>> fun movie. That's like '9s, right? Was
it '90s?
>> No, no, no. Cuz I was already doing
drugs.
>> Had to be 2000s.
>> If I had to guess, 2002
>> 2001.
>> October 2001.
>> Nice.
>> Yeah. I only started smoking weed when I
was 17. Then I started experimenting
with hallucinogens in those
>> first few years of college.
>> Just taking acid by yourself, watching
that movie, being like
>> blown away. The animation was so cool.
It was just shaky.
>> Yeah. So, you saw that thing that I had
to do at the White House the other day?
>> I did see it. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. People are pissed.
>> Who's pissed?
>> I don't know. People online.
>> What? Because I was at the White House.
>> Yeah. They're like, "Yo, Joe, you can't
be at the [ __ ] White House. Joe, you
said you were [ __ ] politically
>> homeless. I am. He joked about it. He
called me a liberal during the whole
thing. He's like, "Joe, he's very
liberal."
>> What? Oh, I saw another What did he The
the other thing the the big conspiracy
theory is that Trump is mad at you and
he came up to the UFC and he was he was
talking [ __ ] to you.
>> No, the opposite.
>> That video came out and it was like,
"Look, Trump's [ __ ] Joe Rogan getting
embarrassed by Trump at the [ __ ] UFC
event."
>> It was literally the opposite. I texted
him on Friday about ibeane and I was
telling him how there's
>> that's a this is the one the vets use.
>> So they've had to go to Mexico to get
this. So I I've had these two different
podcast with Brian Huard and Rick Perry.
Rick Perry was the governor of Texas and
they talked about Ibigane and Brian
Hubard was relaying his story about how
I saved him from addiction and fixed his
brain. And then they had all these other
stories of all these other veterans and
all these different people that had PTSD
and opiate addiction. It's I know a lot
of people who have gone down there to do
it. I first I found out about it from my
friend Ed Clay who runs a CPI. He's one
of the guys that runs the Cellular
Performance Institute in Tijana that the
UFC uses for stem cells.
>> Yeah.
>> He had a pill problem and he went down
there and did it and then opened up his
own retreat down there because it was so
potent because it worked so well. So
many people.
>> What is it? What is the the compound
though?
>> It's called ibe
>> synthetic like acid.
>> No, no, no. It's it's from a plant. It's
from the aboga tree. And this one thing
that they uh do is not recreational.
It's very It's supposed to be a horrible
experience. You [ __ ] yourself, you throw
up, and you have this like very weird
experience where it goes over your
entire life and shows you like in every
detail why you're like this and why you
do this and what your and it also
>> shuts off withdrawals and addiction on a
lot of people. It's like really
effective
>> really.
>> But for a lot of these guys with PTSD
was the only thing that [ __ ] helped
them. And for the longest time, they've
had to go to Mexico or to other
countries and it's really expensive. So
they uh formed the Texas Ibagane
initiative and uh is it Lieutenant
Governor Dan Patrick? Is that what his
title is? So he dedicated a hund00
million to it. And so now they're going
to start doing it with people like
soldiers and police officers and
different people with PTSD and
>> and you know just people with just
general depression. It's and all sorts
of addictions, not just like uh opiates,
but alcohol, gambling, all sorts of
[ __ ]
>> Yeah. And I told him about it and I told
him, "No, no, but I had these guys on
the podcast and I know so many people
that have done it, particularly soldiers
that have done it
>> and and people that with opiate like my
friend Ed and and I said I told him
about it. I said how effective it is and
I said, you know, and it's been held up
for so long." And he said, "What are you
looking for? You looking for FDA
approval?" He goes, "It sounds good to
me."
>> He said, "Let's do it." And so,
literally sees me at the UFC the next
day, shakes my hand, and says, "It's
done."
>> Wow. That's what he was saying.
>> That's so funny.
>> I was like and I said, "Thank you, sir."
It wasn't like he was mad at me at all.
>> People jump on these like conclusions
like,
>> "Well, that's okay. You know, you're
allowed to." But this is the truth.
That's that's exactly what happened. He
came to me and he said, "It's done.
We're going to take care of this is a
good thing. It's a good thing for the
soldiers, good thing for everybody." And
then he had the press conference the
next week.
>> But why would anybody be It's so funny.
So like how they just choose to be
against things, even good things. Like
that's it's it's unquestionably a really
good thing, right? That one is a really
good thing for everybody because it
addiction is a huge problem and I gain
is one of the most effective treatments
for addiction that they've ever found.
Another one that's really good for
addiction is psilocybin. They're going
to study that as well and hopefully
fasttrack that as well.
>> Yeah,
>> that's part of this bill. This bill is
all about um this executive order. This
executive order is all about psychedelic
treatments for people with depression,
mental health disorders, and it's all to
reclassify this stuff. And this is one
of the things that I said and this is
why it was important for me to not just
be there but to say this that this is
these drugs are not illegal because
they're harmful. Alcohol is harmful.
It's legal. Oxycodone is harmful. It's
legal.
>> They're illegal because of the 1970s
controlled substances act. Yeah. This is
by the Nixon administration. This is
just they wanted to silence the anti-war
people and the civil rights people.
That's it. So they said, "What are these
people doing?" Well, they're doing acid.
They're taking mushrooms. They're doing
this. to doing that said, "Make all that
[ __ ] illegal as [ __ ] Make it the most."
And so they put it all in a schedule
one.
>> Yeah.
>> Which means it has no medicinal benefit.
And I was telling them, I'm like, "It
has benefit." And not only does it have
benefit, it could save lives.
>> Yeah. I uh Yeah. I'm I get terrified of
psychedelics at this point. I used to
love them, but I just I mean every time
if I take mushrooms acid, doesn't matter
what it is, there will be an hour where
I'm crying talking to God and thinking
about my mother.
Every time.
>> Maybe that's what you need in your life.
>> Maybe. I don't know, dude. Sometimes I
can just push it down. And
>> I think it should be regulated in the
sense that I think we should understand
it better, make sure it's pure, and make
sure that it's administered by people
who know what they're doing. And that's
what they're doing at places like
Beyond, which is in Mexico. People are
going down there and have these I gain
sessions, but they're also doing it
where they're strapped up to heart
monitors. They they're very careful. You
can't do it if you have a bad heart
because apparently it's really rough.
Apparently, it's not fun at all. Again,
I haven't done it. But the people that I
know that have done it, it's rescued
them.
>> Dude, let's micro dose my beain.
>> I don't think you can micro do. I think
you got to go I think you got to meet
the devil [ __ ] Like Joey Diaz
always says, "What the [ __ ] are you
doing with that micro dose? I'm trying
to meet the devil."
>> Yeah. When I went when I was younger, I
was like, "Dude, I would love to go to
like a peyote retreat." And you hear the
same thing. It's like you vomit and you
spend [ __ ]
>> you know, you have to have a special
shaman like walk you through it and
guide it and they pat your head with a
wet towel. And
>> peyote is masculine. And I had a buddy
of mine who did measculine in New York
City. He said he could wa he could hear
people talking in another building. He
goes he was watching them through the
window. They were far away and he could
hear them talking in his head. I was
like, "What the [ __ ] dude?"
>> I bet you I bet you he couldn't hear
what they were saying. I bet you he was
I bet you he was making up their words.
>> I think he tapped in.
>> I think he tapped in to the quantum
field.
>> Yeah.
>> And he was inside their head like like
the alien technology. Just instantaneous
transport. Doesn't have to go through
sound. Just pick up on the frequency of
their thoughts.
>> Yeah. All drugs would be legal.
Whatever. It's your body.
>> Exactly. If alcohol is legal, and I
think it should be, it's one of the
worst ones for you. If that shit's
legal,
>> how many people
>> Columbia the president of Columbia was
like, he was like, "Alcohol is worse
than cocaine." It was a quote years ago.
>> He did say that.
>> Oh, no. It was Hunter Biden.
>> It was I think it's actually true.
>> I think it is true. Yeah.
>> I think actual real cocaine in terms of
like the actual like from the coca [ __ ]
>> I'll tell you what's definitely better
for you is cocoa leaves. Those people
that live in like the Alps. They just
chew on Yeah. They chew on cocoa leaves.
That's like in like high mountainous
areas, high altitude herders, they they
chew cocoa leaves.
>> They love that [ __ ]
>> I'm sure.
>> It's supposed to be really good.
Supposed to be like a great coffee.
>> Yeah.
>> For real. It's like not supposed to be
like you're on Coke. It's supposed to be
like
>> you're you feel energized and stimulated
and it's not bad for you, but it [ __ ]
your teeth up. Oh, I'm sure
>> you get these dudes with these rotten
cocaine chew teeth. You ever seen it?
>> No, I haven't.
>> Find me some cocoa leaf teeth pictures.
>> Yeah.
>> Ask perplexity about this condition and
why why do people get coca leaf tea face
>> cuz it does it rots your teeth away it
looks like.
>> Sure.
>> But that should be legal too. Just brush
your [ __ ] teeth.
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe not though. Maybe it eats your
teeth cuz you got to think about if you
can make cocaine out of it. kind of acid
stuff is in that leaves.
>> I don't know. It is just a leaf, right?
>> SOMETHING ELSE IS COMING UP.
>> THAT'S BETT nuts or something.
>> Oh my god. Betl nuts. What is a battle
nut?
>> So it doesn't [ __ ] them up from uh cocoa
leaves. Oh, even better.
>> Bolivia legalizes chewing and Click on
that link. NBC News to the right of
that. E
>> yeah, look at that. Bolivia legalizes
chewing and ingesting cocoa leaves.
Bolivia wins. They're ahead of us. They
win. The real problem with it is
fentinel and the fact that you have to
get it from a [ __ ] Coke dealer.
>> Yeah,
>> those are the real problems.
>> Having to talk to a Coke dealer is
actually the worst part of the entire
process.
>> Pope plans to chew cocoa leaves during
Bolivia visit. Jesus Christ, the Pope's
dead now. They killed him because he
wanted to chew the cocoa leaves. That's
a 2015 article.
That's wild, dude. Because it is weird
that I mean, is cocaine worse than
alcohol? Cuz if it's not, why why is
alcohol the one that's legal?
>> Says he specifically requested to chew
it.
>> Wow. What a freak.
>> Yeah. It's
>> Duncan Trussell has a great joke about
Adderall.
>> Oh yeah.
>> He goes Aderall is like someone did
cocaine and went
I can fix this.
>> That's a great joke.
I I think I mean I've never done aderall
either for the same reason that I've
never done coke like [ __ ] it just seems
too good seems like it gets you too
jazzed up.
>> I I mean I had like debilitating I still
have debilitating ADHD. I haven't done
aderall in
>> What does that mean though?
>> Um
so I get like uh I get anxiety if I if I
look at my mail on my kitchen counter.
Right now there's a pile this high with
mail.
>> Mhm.
>> If I look at it like I feel like a
>> because you're not doing the work.
you're not look going through your mail.
>> It's just a crippling depression. It
feels like like if I have to do my
taxes, like I have a business manager
that does all this [ __ ] but when I had
to do it myself, it would like [ __ ]
me. I would like I would feel like I've
had depression issues back in the day.
>> It felt like depression. I feel like I
want to lie down. When I literally when
I look at the mail on my counter, they
call it um ADHD paralysis where there's
things that you don't like to do and the
tedious little tasks um that it it feels
like school work was like really bad for
me. That was really really hard.
>> But on the flip side, if there's
something that you really love, do you
have a lot of attention to it? A lot of
energy.
>> I dive in to like I obsess over it. So
like I I love the things that I do. I
love work. Like I really love what I do
for a living. I I do a bunch of things
really, but like I love work. I love
getting on business meetings. I love
taking a phone call. I love, you know, I
love writing jokes. I love going on the
road. Like, so the things that I love to
do, I dive completely into and I just
sort of
>> see that's where it's stupid to me that
that's a disease, right?
>> That seems like you're allergic to
boring [ __ ]
>> I don't think that's a disease. I think
modern society has got people convinced
that's a disease.
>> I think that there Yes. I think most
people don't want to fold their laundry.
I think most people don't want to do
their taxes or go through their mail.
most. But for me, it hits me in a way
where like I feel a physical like
recoil. Like I genuinely like
>> You're allergic to boring [ __ ]
>> I'm allergic to boring [ __ ]
>> I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I
think they got you tricked. They they've
got all of us tricked. Yeah.
>> Everybody that I know and me included
that probably has ADHD or I think I can
go to a doctor, they figure out
something wrong with me. They they'd say
there's something wrong with you. You
could have got on pills when you were a
kid and it would have ruined all of it.
Yeah,
>> it would have [ __ ] up that weird gift
that you have where you can lock in. So,
what's the flip side of that weird gift?
The other thing doesn't seem important.
Other [ __ ] is boring, but you have way
more energy over the thing that's
exciting. It's a great point.
>> It's a superpower, dude.
>> It's a great point. And I, by the way,
I' I've said that specifically that my
ADHD is a superpower in certain regards.
the fact that I could get so locked in
on the things that I really really want
to do, but I've never really considered
the fact that like it's making me avoid
doing the things that just are [ __ ]
tedious, whatever. And by the way, I
figured it out. I still went down the
path. I'm 44 years old.
>> I get my [ __ ] done. I still the laundry
gets folded, the taxes get done, the
>> boring. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But that's discipline. Discipline.
>> That's all I was going to say. The
discipline part is like some people
can't,
>> right? or like how does it get done that
you know like
>> I mean I was like like a really bad
student like I just skin of my teeth
graduated
>> understand but the idea that this gift
that you have is what doesn't get
concentrated on the gift is you have an
extraordinary amount of energy that you
can devote to something you really love
most people wish they had that gift
>> the flip side of it of course the other
things aren't even remotely interesting
cuz you need to be stimulated in order
for give something all of your
attention.
>> Some people could just drone on and
drone on and they don't have ADHD. That
doesn't that's not good.
>> Yeah.
>> I think ADHD
>> made it made growing up pretty tough.
Like cuz you get peg you get you get you
called a bad kid.
I didn't get good grades.
I'm a millionaire and I had bad grades
when I was 12.
>> You're right.
>> You're not wrong.
>> No. Come on, dog. I know I'm right.
>> You're right. All right, let's wrap this
[ __ ] up. Uh, I got to get out of here.
So, Gas Digital, what else to tell
everybody?
>> Stankfest on sale today.
>> Fest. Oh [ __ ] 420. What a good time to
sell.
>> Is it 421? Are they on sale today or
tomorrow?
>> They're on sale today. They Yes, this
comes out tomorrow. So, yesterday they
went on this podcast yesterday cuz those
budgets, those tickets go quick.
>> They go fast. So, the all access pass,
if I had to guess, are pretty close to
sold out, but you can still get single
day pass.
>> Well, I bet the skankers already know.
What do you call your your people?
>> Skanks.
>> Skanks. The skanks already know.
>> Yeah, we got a big lineup.
>> That's amazing, dude. Congratulations on
all this because every comic always
agrees that it is absolutely the best
festival.
>> They [ __ ] love it. They love the
vibe. They love, you know, how much
effort and time you guys put into it.
>> It's awesome, dude. Congratulations.
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Yeah, but it's going to be it's going to
be You should come one day, Joe.
>> I will come one day. skankfest.com.
>> skankfest.com. And uh yeah, get those
tickets. Shane's going to be there. Mark
Norman, Derek Andre,
>> sounds great.
>> Everybody. I mean 170 comics.
>> Everybody loves it. All right. Thanks.
Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.